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butthole666
09/12/19 5:16:59 PM
#51:


MaverickMerch posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Man all the people bad mouthing debate is sad

You should value debate. That's how society grows

Valuing violence and echo chambers is how stagnation and war starts

Why do you think the first thing corrupt governments do Is silence criticism?

Why do you think Free Speech was the first amendment?

This is important shit man

Debate I'd the reason you're not all English right now


If only the right valued debate...

Or facts...


Thats rich. When asking people for facts proving that Molyneux is a white supremacist all I got was crickets and fart noises.

Actually you just ignored the answers to your post because you are engaging in a bad faith argument and know everything that you will be told already
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Anteaterking
09/12/19 5:17:31 PM
#52:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Man all the people bad mouthing debate is sad

You should value debate. That's how society grows

Valuing violence and echo chambers is how stagnation and war starts

Why do you think the first thing corrupt governments do Is silence criticism?

Why do you think Free Speech was the first amendment?

This is important shit man

Debate I'd the reason you're not all English right now


I mean, formal debate competitions like the one he's describing, isn't even about what you believe. You defend the position you're given using the corpus you're provided as "facts".
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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 5:19:14 PM
#54:


butthole666 posted...
MaverickMerch posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Man all the people bad mouthing debate is sad

You should value debate. That's how society grows

Valuing violence and echo chambers is how stagnation and war starts

Why do you think the first thing corrupt governments do Is silence criticism?

Why do you think Free Speech was the first amendment?

This is important shit man

Debate I'd the reason you're not all English right now


If only the right valued debate...

Or facts...


Thats rich. When asking people for facts proving that Molyneux is a white supremacist all I got was crickets and fart noises.

Actually you just ignored the answers to your post because you are engaging in a bad faith argument and know everything that you will be told already


I didn't ignore any answers, no one answered HOW he is a white supremacist. Take your backwards logic somewhere else.
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hockeybub89
09/12/19 5:21:20 PM
#55:


MaverickMerch posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MaverickMerch posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Man all the people bad mouthing debate is sad

You should value debate. That's how society grows

Valuing violence and echo chambers is how stagnation and war starts

Why do you think the first thing corrupt governments do Is silence criticism?

Why do you think Free Speech was the first amendment?

This is important shit man

Debate I'd the reason you're not all English right now


If only the right valued debate...

Or facts...


Thats rich. When asking people for facts proving that Molyneux is a white supremacist all I got was crickets and fart noises.

Stefan Basil Molyneux is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views. Molyneux is also a self-published author.


And I'll repeat. Where is the evidence that he has white supremacist views? Idk what scientific racism is suppose to mean. Did you just copy and paste this from some Wikipedia page?

My Wikipedia page refers to scientific racism, which is just a basic intelligence test.

Science by definition cannot be racist.

I have interviewed 18 world-renowned experts in the field of human intelligence:


It can be when you make up science to push ideas that races mean something biologically and that some races are naturally dumber than others, booboo.

Nothing more dangerous than a "fact" in the hands of a malicious idiot.
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Orlando_Jordan
09/12/19 5:21:38 PM
#56:


shockthemonkey posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
CE: Debates don't mean anything! SO what if he can destroy me in a debate? My side is still right.

Do you believe white supremacy is moral?

If you saw a debate where a white supremacist won, would you believe white supremacy is moral?

How could a white supremacist win a debate? How awful does the other side have to be to lose to that?
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Stewman_Magoo
09/12/19 5:25:08 PM
#58:


butthole666 posted...
Actually you just ignored the answers to your post because you are engaging in a bad faith argument and know everything that you will be told already


Exactly. No amount of evidence is going to change his mind

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Orlando_Jordan
09/12/19 5:25:36 PM
#59:


shockthemonkey posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
CE: Debates don't mean anything! SO what if he can destroy me in a debate? My side is still right.

Do you believe white supremacy is moral?

If you saw a debate where a white supremacist won, would you believe white supremacy is moral?

How could a white supremacist win a debate? How awful does the other side have to be to lose to that?

Will you answer the questions?

I live in the real world.
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treewojima
09/12/19 5:26:21 PM
#60:


we live in a society
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butthole666
09/12/19 5:26:35 PM
#61:


Orlando_Jordan posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
CE: Debates don't mean anything! SO what if he can destroy me in a debate? My side is still right.

Do you believe white supremacy is moral?

If you saw a debate where a white supremacist won, would you believe white supremacy is moral?

How could a white supremacist win a debate? How awful does the other side have to be to lose to that?

This is another bad faith post where you try to set up a gotcha where a white supremacist wins a debate therefore white supremacy is factual and ideologically sound, except you are not talking to idiots and the whole point of this conversation is that formal debate is ultimately worthless and completely vacuous sport, so your whole game falls apart
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treewojima
09/12/19 5:28:47 PM
#63:


this is just a variation of "fite me irl", except unironic
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creativerealms
09/12/19 5:30:49 PM
#64:


Sixth is fifth loser.

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hockeybub89
09/12/19 5:33:33 PM
#65:


These are some gems from Molyneux in the last TWO DAYS

Statistically, if whites lose majority, most freedoms go bye bye.

I wish it wasnt the case, but math doesnt lie.

Talk about Jewish privilege, and youre immediately labelled an anti-Semite.

Thus it must be rank anti-white racism to talk about white privilege.

Why are whites "privileged"?

They make more money?
- Jews and East Asians make more.

They have legal privileges?
- You can legally discriminate against whites in hiring.

They are the majority?
- Most countries have an ethnic majority - are they ALL "privileged"?

A racist lie.

This is so boring and predictable.

In a multi-ethnic society, all politics is racial.

When whites are in the middle of the IQ band, how do those facts spell white supremacy?

So you agree that calling a group privileged - as in white privilege can be a precursor to genocide?

The hateful and racist concept of white privilege is so despicable and offensive that people who skip over that and get upset over pronouns and the use of the word guys have no credibility at all.

Schools have become hateful asylums.

Forcing employers to give jobs to women over men is a form of population reduction, because women need men to provide for them when the women have babies if the men dont have jobs, birth rates drop.

This can be clearly seen in the white population.

Many such examples.

Do you believe that elements of racial supremacy is common to all racial groups?

Right wingers are the new WMDs.

The sociopathic fear-mongering can never stop.

A "socialist" is just a communist who hasn't implemented gun control yet.

Canadas immigration rate is truly insane.

Whites to be down to 20% within this century.

Election next month!

The historical right of conquest is accepted for every single race in the world except whites.

Youre confusing white people with smallpox.

Two tips to help:

1. Were taller than smallpox.

2. Were way less racist than you are.


God I hate his posting style.
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Stewman_Magoo
09/12/19 5:36:11 PM
#66:


hockeybub89 posted...
These are some gems from Molyneux in the last TWO DAYS

Statistically, if whites lose majority, most freedoms go bye bye.

I wish it wasnt the case, but math doesnt lie.

Talk about Jewish privilege, and youre immediately labelled an anti-Semite.

Thus it must be rank anti-white racism to talk about white privilege.

Why are whites "privileged"?

They make more money?
- Jews and East Asians make more.

They have legal privileges?
- You can legally discriminate against whites in hiring.

They are the majority?
- Most countries have an ethnic majority - are they ALL "privileged"?

A racist lie.

This is so boring and predictable.

In a multi-ethnic society, all politics is racial.

When whites are in the middle of the IQ band, how do those facts spell white supremacy?

So you agree that calling a group privileged - as in white privilege can be a precursor to genocide?

The hateful and racist concept of white privilege is so despicable and offensive that people who skip over that and get upset over pronouns and the use of the word guys have no credibility at all.

Schools have become hateful asylums.

Forcing employers to give jobs to women over men is a form of population reduction, because women need men to provide for them when the women have babies if the men dont have jobs, birth rates drop.

This can be clearly seen in the white population.

Many such examples.

Do you believe that elements of racial supremacy is common to all racial groups?

Right wingers are the new WMDs.

The sociopathic fear-mongering can never stop.

A "socialist" is just a communist who hasn't implemented gun control yet.

Canadas immigration rate is truly insane.

Whites to be down to 20% within this century.

Election next month!

The historical right of conquest is accepted for every single race in the world except whites.

Youre confusing white people with smallpox.

Two tips to help:

1. Were taller than smallpox.

2. Were way less racist than you are.

God I hate his posting style.


BuT hOw Do YoU kNoW hE's RaCiSt!?!?

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ultimate reaver
09/12/19 5:36:38 PM
#67:


stefan moyneux listens in on his wifes therapy sessions and heckles and disagrees with the therapist

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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 5:37:19 PM
#68:


Stewman_Magoo posted...
butthole666 posted...
Actually you just ignored the answers to your post because you are engaging in a bad faith argument and know everything that you will be told already


Exactly. No amount of evidence is going to change his mind


That's one way to "win" a debate. Just dont participate and fake moral superiority by making it seem like the other side isnt interested in trying to honestly participate, which is actually what you're doing, not me.

When you dont have a simple piece of evidence to support your claim, I guess you aren't able to do anything else.
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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 5:50:48 PM
#69:


hockeybub89 posted...
These are some gems from Molyneux in the last TWO DAYS

Statistically, if whites lose majority, most freedoms go bye bye.

I wish it wasnt the case, but math doesnt lie.

Talk about Jewish privilege, and youre immediately labelled an anti-Semite.

Thus it must be rank anti-white racism to talk about white privilege.

Why are whites "privileged"?

They make more money?
- Jews and East Asians make more.

They have legal privileges?
- You can legally discriminate against whites in hiring.

They are the majority?
- Most countries have an ethnic majority - are they ALL "privileged"?

A racist lie.

This is so boring and predictable.

In a multi-ethnic society, all politics is racial.

When whites are in the middle of the IQ band, how do those facts spell white supremacy?

So you agree that calling a group privileged - as in white privilege can be a precursor to genocide?

The hateful and racist concept of white privilege is so despicable and offensive that people who skip over that and get upset over pronouns and the use of the word guys have no credibility at all.

Schools have become hateful asylums.

Forcing employers to give jobs to women over men is a form of population reduction, because women need men to provide for them when the women have babies if the men dont have jobs, birth rates drop.

This can be clearly seen in the white population.

Many such examples.

Do you believe that elements of racial supremacy is common to all racial groups?

Right wingers are the new WMDs.

The sociopathic fear-mongering can never stop.

A "socialist" is just a communist who hasn't implemented gun control yet.

Canadas immigration rate is truly insane.

Whites to be down to 20% within this century.

Election next month!

The historical right of conquest is accepted for every single race in the world except whites.

Youre confusing white people with smallpox.

Two tips to help:

1. Were taller than smallpox.

2. Were way less racist than you are.


God I hate his posting style.


Ahh, so we're at the point where you take quotes out of context. Got it.

Molyneux was talking about republicans and democrats, and how white people are more likely to be republican (who he supports) versus other races. You can see the New York Times break down the 2016 election by race here

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html

If white people "go away", then democrats are more likely to win, which to him, means his freedom goes away.

If you're gonna pretend to argue, atleast do it honestly.
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Rexdragon125
09/12/19 5:53:51 PM
#70:


Is racism bad? The jury is still out on that apparently
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CM_Ponch
09/12/19 5:54:35 PM
#71:


Lmao, Canadian debates.
"Hello"
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hockeybub89
09/12/19 5:58:31 PM
#72:


MaverickMerch posted...
If white people "go away", then democrats are more likely to win, which to him, means his freedom goes away.

That's a lot of words to defend him being racist.
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A_A_Battery
09/12/19 6:01:00 PM
#73:


MaverickMerch posted...
The guy in the OP isnt a white supremacist, so who is TC talking about?


Your mom?
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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 6:03:46 PM
#74:


hockeybub89 posted...
MaverickMerch posted...
If white people "go away", then democrats are more likely to win, which to him, means his freedom goes away.

That's a lot of words to defend him being racist.


Good job ignoring the entire paragraph explaining his point and showing how nothing he said was racist.
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LightningAce11
09/12/19 6:04:19 PM
#75:


Why are people feeding the alt?
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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 6:06:16 PM
#76:


A_A_Battery posted...
MaverickMerch posted...
The guy in the OP isnt a white supremacist, so who is TC talking about?


Your mom?


This is offensive, and has been reported.
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A_A_Battery
09/12/19 6:10:54 PM
#77:


A fitting response I thought. Oh well, opinions will differ.
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MaverickMerch
09/12/19 6:12:49 PM
#78:


A_A_Battery posted...
A fitting response I thought. Oh well, opinions will differ.


I'm just joshing ya bud.
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RaptorLC
09/12/19 6:26:11 PM
#79:


Not like soon to be banned accounts can report posts anyway.

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ThyCorndog
09/12/19 6:30:31 PM
#80:


people are questioning if stefan "blacks have lower IQ" molyneux is a white supremacist?
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ultimate reaver
09/12/19 6:39:38 PM
#81:


oh man, suspended huh? thats rough

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Delirious_Beard
09/12/19 6:43:11 PM
#82:


ultimate reaver posted...
oh man, suspended huh? thats rough


you hate to see it
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Chad-Henne
09/12/19 6:44:20 PM
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NinjaBreakfast
09/12/19 6:47:55 PM
#84:


When you think about it, the whole obsessive 'debate me coward!!' stuff feels like the natural progression of years of centrist-led thinking that 'logic' and 'rationality' automatically win out over all other things, that stuff like this can be reasoned out in a back and forth, totally cutting out the obvious bad actors in the equation
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/12/19 6:59:50 PM
#85:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Valuing violence and echo chambers is how stagnation and war starts

Valuing glorified personality contests is how reality shows start.
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pls
09/12/19 7:02:49 PM
#86:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
When you think about it, the whole obsessive 'debate me coward!!' stuff feels like the natural progression of years of centrist-led thinking that 'logic' and 'rationality' automatically win out over all other things, that stuff like this can be reasoned out in a back and forth, totally cutting out the obvious bad actors in the equation


What do you propose as alternatives to logic and rationality?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/12/19 7:03:45 PM
#87:


The fact you interpreted those references solely at face value says a lot about you
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pls
09/12/19 7:05:47 PM
#88:


What does that even mean

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A_A_Battery
09/12/19 7:07:22 PM
#89:


I mean I just felt more comfortable in poland. No idea why, could it be because theyre all white there? I was able to say what I wanted without some black dude punching me in the mouth a daily occurrence where I normally live no doubt.

But no Im not a white supremacist lol.
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Evening_Dragon
09/12/19 7:07:26 PM
#90:


pls posted...
What does that even mean



It means you have no appreciation for context or subtlety.
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Machete
09/12/19 7:08:14 PM
#91:


Antifar posted...
Right wingers really overvalue formalized debate.


valuing it at all is overvaluing it.
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Blue_Dream87
09/12/19 7:10:34 PM
#92:


pls posted...
What do you propose as alternatives to logic and rationality?


It's not some zero sum game, you can be logical and rational but also take into account context and human understanding. Logic doesnt rule everything, and it shouldn't be stripped to it's bare bones like in formal debate


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pls
09/12/19 7:10:35 PM
#93:


Evening_Dragon posted...
It means you have no appreciation for context or subtlety.


That's hilarious coming from someone who bad-mouthed centrists who pay attention to logic and rationality

Being unable or unwilling to answer what should win out over logic and rationality says a lot tbh
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Machete
09/12/19 7:12:01 PM
#94:


RaptorLC posted...
Not like soon to be banned accounts can report posts anyway.


heh heh
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Machete
09/12/19 7:17:22 PM
#95:


Shablagoo posted...
FrozenXylophone posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
Someone should debate him on why being #6 in anything isn't the same as being #1.


Not a chance.


He came in 6th in all of Canada.


I mean... credit where it is due, it's pretty impressive that only 5 other Canadians beat him while the other 25? 30? million Canadians failed (I really should look up Canada's population instead of guessing from memory but I'm just not in the mood to even do the most basic and bare minimum research right now lol)
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UnfairRepresent
09/12/19 7:18:38 PM
#96:


shockthemonkey posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Orlando_Jordan posted...

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Do you believe white supremacy is moral?

If you saw a debate where a white supremacist won, would you believe white supremacy is moral?

How could a white supremacist win a debate? How awful does the other side have to be to lose to that?

Will you answer the questions?


They're pretty bad faith questions.

You can't answer without seeing what is said how a debate will influence your mind.

And one side winning or losing a debate doesn't make you automatically side with the winner.

For example if someone was having a debate over whether or not it was good to eat feces, and one guy listed a series of reasons why he thought it was, then the other guy threw a chair at him, ripped his shirt off and screamed like a little girl. Technically the shit eating guy won the debate.

But he probably didn't win over any minds.

The answer to your question is "Probably not."

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A_A_Battery
09/12/19 7:20:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



They're pretty bad faith questions.

You can't answer without seeing what is said how a debate will influence your mind.

And one side winning or losing a debate doesn't make you automatically side with the winner.

For example if someone was having a debate over whether or not it was good to eat feces, and one guy listed a series of reasons why he thought it was, then the other guy threw a chair at him, ripped his shirt off and screamed like a little girl. Technically the shit eating guy won the debate.

But he probably didn't win over any minds.

The answer to your question is "Probably not."


You never know though, people are drinking bleach these days.
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Evening_Dragon
09/12/19 7:41:18 PM
#98:


pls posted...
Evening_Dragon posted...
It means you have no appreciation for context or subtlety.


That's hilarious coming from someone who bad-mouthed centrists who pay attention to logic and rationality

Being unable or unwilling to answer what should win out over logic and rationality says a lot tbh


"Logic and rationality"

You're confusing debate with being inherently logical or rational.
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TheMikh
09/12/19 7:52:55 PM
#99:


Molyneux is a terrible debater that invokes fallacies and mental gymnastics when he is up against someone who threatens one of his axiomatic sacred cows.
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Shablagoo
09/13/19 6:46:05 AM
#100:


Machete posted...
RaptorLC posted...
Not like soon to be banned accounts can report posts anyway.


heh heh

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