Current Events > The Alec Holowka/Zoe Quinn story seems to have an interesting update.

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booboy
09/10/19 10:50:12 PM
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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-zoe-quinns-allegations-are-falling-apart/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/
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Evening_Dragon
09/10/19 10:56:08 PM
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In 2019, men are broke and broken by wokeness


yeah this is not a site that deserves attention
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cjsdowg
09/10/19 11:01:09 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
In 2019, men are broke and broken by wokeness


yeah this is not a site that deserves attention


If they supported their claims about Zoe, it does.
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MrMallard
09/10/19 11:01:20 PM
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By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".
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Sad_Face
09/10/19 11:03:02 PM
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TC, the biggest investment of all time was "leaked" and had interest driven by an insider named Assblaster. If you can't figure out how to do your own research and verify information without having an authority figure with a positive reputation spoonfeeding you, there's going to be a hard limit in how far you will go in life without other people carrying you.
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Darmik
09/10/19 11:08:04 PM
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Like the guy he worked with on A Night in the Woods wrote a long blog about the abuse him and others who knew Alec suffered from if you're actually interested.
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cjsdowg
09/10/19 11:10:46 PM
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MrMallard posted...
By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".


Trying to find out the truth about an allegation is not harassing people.

After so many people were fooled my Leaving Neverland I think we should do our best to look into this stuff. But people are scared too. Hell even after there is tone of proof that the people behind leaving Neverland were lying their ass off people still get side eyes for calling them out for lying.
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Sad_Face
09/10/19 11:16:22 PM
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Darmik posted...
Like the guy he worked with on A Night in the Woods wrote a long blog about the abuse him and others who knew Alec suffered from if you're actually interested.

I read it. Alec sounds rough to work with. But that's irrelevant to the allegations.

Quinn, however, had a tweet that directly contradicted with the timing of and the legitimacy of her "allegations".
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Darmik
09/10/19 11:22:52 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Darmik posted...
Like the guy he worked with on A Night in the Woods wrote a long blog about the abuse him and others who knew Alec suffered from if you're actually interested.

I read it. Alec sounds rough to work with. But that's irrelevant to the allegations.

Quinn, however, had a tweet that directly contradicted with the timing of and the legitimacy of her "allegations".


I really disagree that the allegations made in that blog are irrelevant. The guy sounded manipulative and abusive to almost everyone he worked with and was in a relationship with. The guy left behind a lot of victims.
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booboy
09/10/19 11:35:49 PM
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Darmik posted...
Sad_Face posted...
Darmik posted...
Like the guy he worked with on A Night in the Woods wrote a long blog about the abuse him and others who knew Alec suffered from if you're actually interested.

I read it. Alec sounds rough to work with. But that's irrelevant to the allegations.

Quinn, however, had a tweet that directly contradicted with the timing of and the legitimacy of her "allegations".


I really disagree that the allegations made in that blog are irrelevant. The guy sounded manipulative and abusive to almost everyone he worked with and was in a relationship with. The guy left behind a lot of victims.


If the article in the OP didn't have multiple tweets directly from Zoe during the time frame of the allegations, and (IMO allegedly because I don't recognize any voices) direct voice clips from interviews during the same time frame, I'd be less inclined to take another look at the matter.
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Shadow20201
09/10/19 11:43:43 PM
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https://twitter.com/eron_gj/status/1169972860489744384
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Sad_Face
09/11/19 12:06:58 AM
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And my apologies OP, I thought you posted the fact checker to dismiss the site because it was right biased.
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booboy
09/11/19 9:48:52 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
And my apologies OP, I thought you posted the fact checker to dismiss the site because it was right biased.


Np. I posted it to show that the factual reporting level of the site was High, which is enough for me to not care about the left/right bias.
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_Matchabuu_
09/11/19 9:55:06 AM
#15:


MrMallard posted...
By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".

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Shadow20201
09/11/19 10:27:20 AM
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_Matchabuu_ posted...
MrMallard posted...
By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".

Quit misgendering Zoe. And pointing holes in someone's story is not harassment, though I will agree it can easily cross the line.
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A_A_Battery
09/11/19 10:31:18 AM
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Cant we just agree that both of them probably suck?
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Shadow20201
09/11/19 10:38:07 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Shadow20201 posted...
https://twitter.com/eron_gj/status/1169972860489744384

Who is this guy? Its hard to keep track of all these people.

Look up the Zoe Post. He's the author. Apparently Alec Holowka was going to do something similar but backed off fearing outrage.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-alec-holowkas-private-messages-reveal-zoe-quinns-abuse/
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booboy
09/11/19 4:23:58 PM
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MrMallard posted...
By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".


_Matchabuu_ posted...
MrMallard posted...
By continuing to march against her in his name, you disrespect the wishes of his family. His sister expressly said Dont use our grief as an excuse to harass people".


If new evidence surfaces, say... tweets from Zoe that entire time frame for example, then new examination needs to happen.

Am I calling for harassment? No.

Am I calling for a review in light of new evidence? Yes.
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DeathDeathSong
09/11/19 4:26:57 PM
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https://medium.com/@bombsfall/alec-2618dc1e23e

just gonna leave this here
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ultimate reaver
09/11/19 4:36:48 PM
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eh, i dont buy it. it's shitty as hell that he killed himself and im sick of twitter callouts in general, but everyone this guy knew professionally and his own family even took this as "yeah those were the kinds of things alec did and he was trying to get help for it"


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Esrac
09/11/19 5:06:15 PM
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Shadow20201 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Shadow20201 posted...
https://twitter.com/eron_gj/status/1169972860489744384

Who is this guy? Its hard to keep track of all these people.

Look up the Zoe Post. He's the author. Apparently Alec Holowka was going to do something similar but backed off fearing outrage.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-alec-holowkas-private-messages-reveal-zoe-quinns-abuse/


I think it's weird that so many people let it slide that she is a shitty person. I assume it's because no one wants to look like they side with Gamergate after the fact.
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Fony
09/11/19 5:16:45 PM
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She's so ugly inside and out, ya'll are true fucking loser to support her and to trip over yourselves defending her. God damn, I mean shit. She's not only evil, but butt ugly.
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EverDownward
09/11/19 5:17:45 PM
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reminder that ad hominem disregards legitimacy
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Tyranthraxus
09/11/19 5:24:35 PM
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Esrac posted...
I think it's weird that so many people let it slide that she is a shitty person. I assume it's because no one wants to look like they side with Gamergate after the fact.


Why is she shitty for just talking about things that happened to her?

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sylverlolol
09/11/19 5:57:41 PM
#27:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Esrac posted...
I think it's weird that so many people let it slide that she is a shitty person. I assume it's because no one wants to look like they side with Gamergate after the fact.


Why is she shitty for just talking about things that happened to her?

I mean, if the texts and whatnot are real, sounds like she was a pretty shitty person to him too so idk
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Tyranthraxus
09/11/19 6:03:04 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
I mean, if the texts and whatnot are real, sounds like she was a pretty shitty person to him too so idk


Wait. How do you conclude that Zoe is a shitty person from Alec's texts?

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pfh1001
09/11/19 6:11:22 PM
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Zoe Quinn is a pathological liar who now has actual blood on her hands.
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Esrac
09/11/19 8:15:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Esrac posted...
I think it's weird that so many people let it slide that she is a shitty person. I assume it's because no one wants to look like they side with Gamergate after the fact.


Why is she shitty for just talking about things that happened to her?


I didn't say that was why she was a shitty person.
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p-m
09/11/19 8:27:02 PM
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Zoe Quinn did nothing wrong and the weird hate boner nerds have for her is weird as hell
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marc55
09/12/19 1:31:27 AM
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p-m posted...
Zoe Quinn did nothing wrong and the weird hate boner nerds have for her is weird as hell


we arent sure
seems she lied
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Apocalyptic
09/12/19 2:32:50 AM
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pfh1001 posted...
Zoe Quinn is a pathological liar who now has actual blood on her hands.


@pfh1001

Better be careful.You call Zoe Quinn for what she is and people on CE will mark you for hate speech. Mods on this site are notorious for being awful so of course it won't be dismissed.

Some people just don't want to accept reality and live in a bubble. The real truth about this story is out there.
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averagejoel
09/12/19 2:35:15 AM
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how about an actual source for this tc

The Post Millennial is like one step above Breitbart
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cjsdowg
09/12/19 2:39:16 AM
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And beyond everything else people are talking about Zoe and when another person told their story and out of the Zoe speaks about this knocking that person out of the news. Am I the only person who thinks that was calculated move? I am not taking sides on this. But what the information that we know.

This happened some time back.
Since they time Zoe has been open about abuse that she has faced.
A person talks about getting abused.
And Zoe then uses that person story to promote what happen to them(Zoe likes being called them) all that time back.
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Darmik
09/12/19 2:39:56 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
And beyond everything else people are talking about Zoe and when another person told their story and out of the Zoe speaks about this knocking that person out of the news. Am I the only person who thinks that was calculated move? I am not taking sides on this. But what the information that we know.

This happened some time back.
Since they time Zoe has been open about abuse that she has faced.
A person talks about getting abused.
And Zoe then uses that person story to promote what happen to them(Zoe likes being called them) all that time back.


I thought Zoe removed herself from social media since the suicide.
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cjsdowg
09/12/19 2:54:02 AM
#37:


This was before suicide.

Some lady said someone with ties to the Skyrim assaulted her.
And then Zoe piggy backed off of that lady's story to tell their own.
Like I touched on, if she wasn't public speaking about this stuff before and hearing someone else gave her the push she needed to tell her story. But that doesn't seem to be the case for them since they been in the public eye talking about this stuff before .
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Iron-Tarkus
09/12/19 2:54:15 AM
#38:


Apocalyptic posted...
Some people just don't want to accept reality and live in a bubble. The real truth about this story is out there

I want you to tell me which of these you think seems more likely to have happened.

Option A:

Zoe lied.
The women corroborating her story lied
The other women coming forward with similar experiences with Alec lied.
Multiple coworkers who have known Alec over the span of a decade threw him under the bus and lied
His sister, while announcing his suicide, was also in on it and decided to go along with the lie.

Option B:

Zoe is telling the truth.
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averagejoel
09/12/19 3:02:36 AM
#39:


Darmik posted...
cjsdowg posted...
And beyond everything else people are talking about Zoe and when another person told their story and out of the Zoe speaks about this knocking that person out of the news. Am I the only person who thinks that was calculated move? I am not taking sides on this. But what the information that we know.

This happened some time back.
Since they time Zoe has been open about abuse that she has faced.
A person talks about getting abused.
And Zoe then uses that person story to promote what happen to them(Zoe likes being called them) all that time back.


I thought Zoe removed herself from social media since the suicide.

yes, zoe quinn initially deactivated twitter. apparently though, deactivating removes two-factor authentication, and someone was trying to hack the account. now it's reactivated, but set to private
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Jagermeister513
09/12/19 3:35:42 AM
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Chelsea van Valkenberg is a liar and a trash person.
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Esrac
09/12/19 6:15:59 AM
#41:


Iron-Tarkus posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
Some people just don't want to accept reality and live in a bubble. The real truth about this story is out there

I want you to tell me which of these you think seems more likely to have happened.

Option A:

Zoe lied.
The women corroborating her story lied
The other women coming forward with similar experiences with Alec lied.
Multiple coworkers who have known Alec over the span of a decade threw him under the bus and lied
His sister, while announcing his suicide, was also in on it and decided to go along with the lie.

Option B:

Zoe is telling the truth.


I don't know about the veracity of the other claims, but I generally don't believe Zoe Quinn is the honest type.
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averagejoel
09/12/19 8:34:32 AM
#42:


Esrac posted...
Iron-Tarkus posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
Some people just don't want to accept reality and live in a bubble. The real truth about this story is out there

I want you to tell me which of these you think seems more likely to have happened.

Option A:

Zoe lied.
The women corroborating her story lied
The other women coming forward with similar experiences with Alec lied.
Multiple coworkers who have known Alec over the span of a decade threw him under the bus and lied
His sister, while announcing his suicide, was also in on it and decided to go along with the lie.

Option B:

Zoe is telling the truth.


I don't know about the veracity of the other claims, but I generally don't believe Zoe Quinn is the honest type.

why?
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Tyranthraxus
09/12/19 8:37:13 AM
#43:


marc55 posted...
we arent sure
seems she lied
The entire grounds the article has for saying she lied is basically "but she was nice to him here! Also she went to go visit him! Why would she do that if he was so horrible?!"

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averagejoel
09/12/19 8:41:24 AM
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averagejoel posted...
how about an actual source for this tc

The Post Millennial is like one step above Breitbart

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Sad_Face
09/12/19 8:54:22 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The entire grounds the article has for saying she lied is basically "but she was nice to him here! Also she went to go visit him! Why would she do that if he was so horrible?!"


It's more like:

Accusation: "He isolated me from my friends and my family and I needed a friend to physically come get me out of Winnipeg!"

Reality (her twitter page): *Tweets* "Yo I'm coming to Montreal on X date [from Winnipeg], who wants to hang? XD"

Honestly, would you want to testify on this in the court of law if you were her? This sounds exactly like perjury to me and that's a felony in some parts. Given how she tweeted her everyday life during that time, it would make sense that she deleted her twitter, cause it's incriminating.

DeathDeathSong posted...
https://medium.com/@bombsfall/alec-2618dc1e23e

just gonna leave this here

It doesn't verify her claims, which is what people are looking for when you're making an accusation that will end someone's career.
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Tyranthraxus
09/12/19 9:23:25 AM
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Sad_Face posted...


It's more like:

Accusation: "He isolated me from my friends and my family and I needed a friend to physically come get me out of Winnipeg!"

Reality (her twitter page): *Tweets* "Yo I'm coming to Montreal on X date [from Winnipeg], who wants to hang? XD"


Right it's totally impossible to tweet something like that after you've secured transportation arrangements from a friend but before actually leaving.

Sad_Face posted...
Honestly, would you want to testify on this in the court of law if you were her? This sounds exactly like perjury to me and that's a felony in some parts. Given how she tweeted her everyday life during that time, it would make sense that she deleted her twitter, cause it's incriminating.


She's not under oath so it literally cannot be perjury.

Secondly, you cannot determine guilt based on whether or not someone wants to testify and suggesting they're guilty because of it is a non starter in court. The DA won't even have to explain anything when he says Objection.


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Apocalyptic
09/12/19 9:37:58 AM
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Iron-Tarkus posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
Some people just don't want to accept reality and live in a bubble. The real truth about this story is out there

I want you to tell me which of these you think seems more likely to have happened.

Option A:

Zoe lied.
The women corroborating her story lied
The other women coming forward with similar experiences with Alec lied.
Multiple coworkers who have known Alec over the span of a decade threw him under the bus and lied
His sister, while announcing his suicide, was also in on it and decided to go along with the lie.

Option B:

Zoe is telling the truth.


Its Zoe Quinn who has a history of being a liar. As soon as this story came out, this man was fired from his job and the people who cared about him disappeared. Do you really think any of them are trustworthy? Do you not see how this story is suspicious?

These tweets contradicting Quinns story are just the tip of the iceberg. It was pointed out that Quinn was not doing well financially before she posted this story on Twitter. Even if I were to entertain this story is 100% true, why post about it on Twitter? Why not try to settle matters privately with him? She knew exactly what she was doing by sending the hate mob on this man. Alec probably did have some issues but that does not give Quinn the right to do what she did. There are two sides to every story. Unfortunately, we will never know Alecs side. Nobody gave him the chance to tell it and now hes gone.

If people do not realize how fucked up this situation is, then I have no more words. Zoe Quinn absolutely could have handled this better. Shes not an idiot. She knew what she was doing. One of you can go ahead mark me for hate speech again just like last time. It really doesnt matter.
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Sad_Face
09/12/19 9:50:44 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Right it's totally impossible to tweet something like that after you've secured transportation arrangements from a friend but before actually leaving.


Dude, read the article. It's not just one tweet. It's a series of tweets where she's been documenting her life to the "T" that contradicts the abusive lifestyle she accused Alec of. And fortunately for you, she did make a tweet just before she left, where she tweets how she's about crunch hard with Alec on her game before her flight. Which along with a bunch of other tweets contradict how she claims Alec refused to give her any authority on her project.

And I asked, if you were her, would you testify in the court of law on these allegations? She will be incriminated for perjury if she tries based on the billion and 2 contradictions of her own digital mini journal.
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averagejoel
09/12/19 9:59:33 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
It doesn't verify her claims, which is what people are looking for when you're making an accusation that will end someone's career

maybe alec holowka should have thought of that before being abusive
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averagejoel
09/12/19 10:00:29 AM
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averagejoel posted...
how about an actual source for this tc

The Post Millennial is like one step above Breitbart

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