Current Events > Moscow Bitch: We have to cut social security and medicare to lower the deficit

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AlphaCuck 09/05/19 8:40:42 PM #1:	After Mitch McConnell passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut for corporations & millionaires, which will add $2 trillion to the debt, McConnell now says the only way to lower the federal deficit is to cut programs like Medicare and Social Security, which millions earned and depend on. https://t.co/3kuJN63UQK https://twitter.com/ditchmitchfund/status/1169366996007432201?s=19 <cite>AlphaCuck posted [p:927032422] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote><quote>After Mitch McConnell passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut for corporations & millionaires, which will add $2 trillion to the debt, McConnell now says the only way to lower the federal deficit is to cut programs like Medicare and Social Security, which millions earned and depend on. https://t.co/3kuJN63UQK</quote> https://twitter.com/ditchmitchfund/status/1169366996007432201?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 09/05/19 8:44:45 PM #2:	i literally hate him --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:927032592] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>i literally hate him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 09/05/19 8:46:04 PM #3:	Well he is a Republican... --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:927032659] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Well he is a Republican...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 09/05/19 8:46:59 PM #4:	lol --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:927032700] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/05/19 8:47:13 PM #5:	lol --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:927032710] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whatswrongwithu 09/05/19 8:47:47 PM #6:	AlCalavicci posted... i literally hate him --- https://i.imgtc.ws/i3hKDXN.gif <cite>Whatswrongwithu posted [p:927032734] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>AlCalavicci posted...</cite> <quote>i literally hate him</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngryRedHatter 09/05/19 8:48:20 PM #7:	That Twitter account is clearly biased. --- Keep America Great <cite>AngryRedHatter posted [p:927032766] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>That Twitter account is clearly biased.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/05/19 8:48:38 PM #8:	Checks out --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927032784] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Checks out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/05/19 8:49:13 PM #9:	modena posted... Well he is a Republican... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:927032806] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>modena posted...</cite> <quote>Well he is a Republican...</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 09/05/19 8:49:37 PM #10:	millions of cranky old people are currently writing a very strongly worded letter and about to send it via snail mail. --- Currently playing: The Division 2 (ps4), Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (xbox 360) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:927032826] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>millions of cranky old people are currently writing a very strongly worded letter and about to send it via snail mail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whatswrongwithu 09/05/19 8:49:40 PM #11:	Lets watch Republicans defend this --- https://i.imgtc.ws/i3hKDXN.gif <cite>Whatswrongwithu posted [p:927032830] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Lets watch Republicans defend this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 09/05/19 8:50:39 PM #12:	One of the biggest non-slave owning, non-segregationist villians in American history. It's an indictment on our political, social, and economic system that this dude is in power and not run out of town on a rail for being anti-human. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:927032875] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>One of the biggest non-slave owning, non-segregationist villians in American history. It's an indictment on our political, social, and economic system that this dude is in power and not run out of town on a rail for being anti-human.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Manocheese 09/05/19 9:00:01 PM #13:	Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better. --- ()_() Hardcore - We'll probably be modded for this... (o.o) http://manocheese.googlepages.com/manocheesery <cite>Manocheese posted [p:927033300] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/05/19 9:01:40 PM #14:	And yet that wall can't be cut? --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:927033383] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>And yet that wall can't be cut? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whatswrongwithu 09/05/19 9:01:45 PM #15:	Manocheese posted... Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better. Edgy trolls now? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/i3hKDXN.gif <cite>Whatswrongwithu posted [p:927033388] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Manocheese posted...</cite> <quote>Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better.</quote> Edgy trolls now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/05/19 9:02:48 PM #16:	This man is a disgrace who needs to be stripped of his power, and tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:927033441] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>This man is a disgrace who needs to be stripped of his power, and tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngryRedHatter 09/05/19 9:41:43 PM #17:	Solar_Crimson posted... This man is a disgrace who needs to be stripped of his power, and tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets. Not going to happen. We're preparing to vote him in for 6 more years. --- Keep America Great <cite>AngryRedHatter posted [p:927035188] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>This man is a disgrace who needs to be stripped of his power, and tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets.</quote> Not going to happen. We're preparing to vote him in for 6 more years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 09/05/19 9:50:46 PM #18:	Whatswrongwithu posted... Lets watch Republicans defend this something something bootstraps, no handouts, etc Unless its for their rich buddies. Then its totes . --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:927035570] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Whatswrongwithu posted...</cite> <quote>Lets watch Republicans defend this</quote> something something bootstraps, no handouts, etc Unless its for their rich buddies. Then its totes .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
powerman1426 09/05/19 9:57:13 PM #19:	This was called from the beginning. I'm not surprised but it's disappointing to see them actually go for it. Sad --- Troll free https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1439-the-help-desk https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1309-tradesmen-and-diyers https://imgur.com/Zz8E0P3 <cite>powerman1426 posted [p:927035848] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>This was called from the beginning. I'm not surprised but it's disappointing to see them actually go for it. Sad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/05/19 10:06:35 PM #20:	They do this because we let them. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:927036266] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>They do this because we let them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 09/05/19 10:07:02 PM #21:	This was obviously where Republicans were going to take this from the beginning. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:927036287] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>This was obviously where Republicans were going to take this from the beginning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Petrichoric 09/05/19 10:14:33 PM #22:	Fortunately, the house is blue, so this is just turtle bluster because he can't very well tell the truth about why the deficit is fucked <cite>Petrichoric posted [p:927036645] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Fortunately, the house is blue, so this is just turtle bluster because he can't very well tell the truth about why the deficit is fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/05/19 10:21:41 PM #23:	AlphaCuck posted... a $1.5 trillion tax cut which will add $2 trillion to the debt whut <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927036985] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>AlphaCuck posted...</cite> <quote> a $1.5 trillion tax cut</quote> <quote>which will add $2 trillion to the debt</quote> whut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 09/05/19 10:24:55 PM #24:	Party of fiscal responsibility and it's supporters that are economically illiterate love it! --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:927037145] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Party of fiscal responsibility and it's supporters that are economically illiterate love it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 09/05/19 10:25:42 PM #25:	That's clearly the only way! --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:927037184] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>That's clearly the only way!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/05/19 10:43:18 PM #26:	Just fucking build a wall between FIT and FICA. Republicans like walls, right? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927038019] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Just fucking build a wall between FIT and FICA. Republicans like walls, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 09/05/19 10:45:03 PM #27:	Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:927038109] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Petrichoric 09/05/19 10:45:55 PM #28:	Fuparulez posted... Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive. And yet you fully support the failing trade war with China, locking kids in cages, and Trump's vanity project Pathetic <cite>Petrichoric posted [p:927038156] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive.</quote> And yet you fully support the failing trade war with China, locking kids in cages, and Trump's vanity project Pathetic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/05/19 10:46:04 PM #29:	Fuparulez posted... Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive. How? It it even really possible to fake being 65? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927038164] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive.</quote> How? It it even really possible to fake being 65?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 09/05/19 10:52:31 PM #30:	Questionmarktarius posted... Fuparulez posted... Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive. How? It it even really possible to fake being 65? Or a debilitating heart disease ect...I cant say dont feed the trolls atm because some good points need a jump start. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:927038539] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Of course those programs need to be cut. The fraud is massive.</quote> How? It it even really possible to fake being 65?</quote> Or a debilitating heart disease ect...I cant say dont feed the trolls atm because some good points need a jump start.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/05/19 10:56:01 PM #31:	Pretty much anyone with half a brain told people this would happen when they started talking about the massive tax cuts. This is the GOP modus operandi. Cut taxes then use deficits to cut programs. Never mind that if their tax cuts worked the way they claim (they never do), you wouldn't need to cut spending because they would actually be bringing in more revenue (it has never actually worked that way in the history of trickle down). --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:927038727] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much anyone with half a brain told people this would happen when they started talking about the massive tax cuts. This is the GOP modus operandi. Cut taxes then use deficits to cut programs. Never mind that if their tax cuts worked the way they claim (they never do), you wouldn't need to cut spending because they would actually be bringing in more revenue (it has never actually worked that way in the history of trickle down).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/05/19 10:57:40 PM #32:	Realistically? No president since Reagan changed the tax code has had the seeds to even suggest the changes we'd need to make to resolve this. The issue is beyond partisan. America has stopped being about what's right, and is about what's right now. See; Rome. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927038810] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Realistically? No president since Reagan changed the tax code has had the seeds to even suggest the changes we'd need to make to resolve this. The issue is beyond partisan. America has stopped being about what's right, and is about what's right now. See; Rome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/05/19 11:02:36 PM #33:	ScazarMeltex posted... Never mind that if their tax cuts worked the way they claim But, it did. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-revenues-record-high-april-paying-for-themselves/ The problem is that deficit spending also hit new records. It's the rough equivalent of getting a modest raise, then opening seven new credit cards. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927039033] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Never mind that if their tax cuts worked the way they claim</quote> But, it did. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-revenues-record-high-april-paying-for-themselves/ The problem is that deficit spending also hit new records. It's the rough equivalent of getting a modest raise, then opening seven new credit cards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 09/05/19 11:04:19 PM #34:	No one possibly saw this coming --- Buffalo Bills 2019-20 Season Prediction: 8-8 2019-2020 Record: 0-0 <cite>theAteam posted [p:927039104] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>No one possibly saw this coming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NES4EVER 09/05/19 11:06:58 PM #35:	So he wants to cut the two programs which directly effect the generation most likely to vote? Eh. His funeral. Wait no this is America we are talking about. They'll still vote Republican. --- *nu-horsemen 4evar* [A GameFAQs Moderator was deleted by this message] <cite>NES4EVER posted [p:927039219] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>So he wants to cut the two programs which directly effect the generation most likely to vote? Eh. His funeral. Wait no this is America we are talking about. They'll still vote Republican. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 09/05/19 11:08:29 PM #36:	NES4EVER posted... So he wants to cut the two programs which directly effect the generation most likely to vote? Eh. His funeral. Wait no this is America we are talking about. They'll still vote Republican. old poor folk from KY would cheer this on as the welfare queens finally getting theirs hey where's my check this month? --- Buffalo Bills 2019-20 Season Prediction: 8-8 2019-2020 Record: 0-0 <cite>theAteam posted [p:927039295] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>NES4EVER posted...</cite> <quote>So he wants to cut the two programs which directly effect the generation most likely to vote? Eh. His funeral. Wait no this is America we are talking about. They'll still vote Republican. </quote> old poor folk from KY would cheer this on as the welfare queens finally getting theirs hey where's my check this month?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Key 09/05/19 11:11:24 PM #37:	Social security is a fucking scam anyways tbh --- <:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;}]\\\\\\O=('-'Q) (>'-')> <('-'<) ^( '-' )^ v( '-' )v <('-'<) ^(_ _)^ (>'-')> ^(^-^) <cite>Key posted [p:927039449] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Social security is a fucking scam anyways tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/05/19 11:12:13 PM #38:	Moscow Mitch and the rest of the republicans are traitors this isnt new gonna be a lot more homeless people in America if he is allowed to do it --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:927039484] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Moscow Mitch and the rest of the republicans are traitors this isnt new gonna be a lot more homeless people in America if he is allowed to do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 09/05/19 11:13:51 PM #39:	i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:927039575] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Manocheese 09/05/19 11:38:08 PM #40:	TheMikh posted... i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly Agreed. Paying 12% of our income in Social Security taxes makes it tough to save. --- ()_() Hardcore - We'll probably be modded for this... (o.o) http://manocheese.googlepages.com/manocheesery <cite>Manocheese posted [p:927040805] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly</quote> Agreed. Paying 12% of our income in Social Security taxes makes it tough to save.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 09/05/19 11:57:01 PM #41:	TheMikh posted... i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used previous presidents have always had their hand in the jar. which is why the date keeps lowering and lowering when they'll only be able to pay out 75% benefit. --- The act of treachery is an art, but the traitor himself is a piece of **** - Mike Tyson <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:927041656] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used</quote> previous presidents have always had their hand in the jar. which is why the date keeps lowering and lowering when they'll only be able to pay out 75% benefit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 09/06/19 7:45:36 AM #42:	kingdrake2 posted... TheMikh posted... i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used previous presidents have always had their hand in the jar. which is why the date keeps lowering and lowering when they'll only be able to pay out 75% benefit. The whole premise behind SS was that Americans are too stupid to save for retirement, so the government would do it for them. Looks like that backfired. Not sure why people trust politicians to handle money that isnt even theirs with zero accountability and all the incentives in the world to spend now and pass the problems to future generations. Government will never work the way that our 5th grade social studies teacher said it should. --- "Those who need leaders are not qualified to choose them." -Michael Malice <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:927051440] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class, families could afford to support their elders financially a little more, freeing up tax dollars to support the poorest and most vulnerable of america's elderly of course lord knows how the social security funds are actually being managed/used</quote> previous presidents have always had their hand in the jar. which is why the date keeps lowering and lowering when they'll only be able to pay out 75% benefit.</quote> The whole premise behind SS was that Americans are too stupid to save for retirement, so the government would do it for them. Looks like that backfired. Not sure why people trust politicians to handle money that isnt even theirs with zero accountability and all the incentives in the world to spend now and pass the problems to future generations. Government will never work the way that our 5th grade social studies teacher said it should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 09/06/19 8:01:03 AM #43:	We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right? <cite>treewojima posted [p:927051815] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 09/06/19 8:29:03 AM #44:	treewojima posted... We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right? What's wrong with 401Ks? (Not being argumentative, I thought they had employer matching?) <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:927052456] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right?</quote> What's wrong with 401Ks? (Not being argumentative, I thought they had employer matching?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/06/19 9:25:01 AM #45:	Ruvan22 posted... treewojima posted... We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right? What's wrong with 401Ks? (Not being argumentative, I thought they had employer matching?) Pensions typically mean defined benefit plans. The employer/government promises to pay you X amount of dollars per year after you retire. It's how the Illinois government got into the current mess it's in, by making lofty promises it can't afford. 401ks are basically are basically just stock brokerage accounts with retirement index/mutual funds. Your employer typically offers you a match which they add to your account every year that you work for them, but they make no promises to pay you anything beyond that. It's entirely your responsibility to manage. There's nothing wrong with 401ks --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:927054026] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>We never should have switched away from pensions and strong employer-backed retirement plans to 401(k)s and individual retirement savings. SS was supposed to be supplementary, not relied upon, and sure as shit not used as a personal bank account for unrelated government expenses. But hey, someone's gotta make oodles of money, and it ain't us, right?</quote> What's wrong with 401Ks? (Not being argumentative, I thought they had employer matching?)</quote> Pensions typically mean defined benefit plans. The employer/government promises to pay you X amount of dollars per year after you retire. It's how the Illinois government got into the current mess it's in, by making lofty promises it can't afford. 401ks are basically are basically just stock brokerage accounts with retirement index/mutual funds. Your employer typically offers you a match which they add to your account every year that you work for them, but they make no promises to pay you anything beyond that. It's entirely your responsibility to manage. There's nothing wrong with 401ks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 09/06/19 9:26:38 AM #46:	Manocheese posted... Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better. Then why didn't they do that with Obama's ever shrinking deficit instead of ballooning it back up to trillion+/year for tax cuts to the rich when Donnie was elected? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:927054073] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Manocheese posted...</cite> <quote>Mitch is absolutely right. The sooner we can get rid of these horrendous, wealth-destroying programs, the better.</quote> Then why didn't they do that with Obama's ever shrinking deficit instead of ballooning it back up to trillion+/year for tax cuts to the rich when Donnie was elected?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 09/06/19 9:28:12 AM #47:	It's either that or take away more people's pay. Which do you prefer? <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:927054132] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>It's either that or take away more people's pay. Which do you prefer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/06/19 9:30:47 AM #48:	TheMikh posted... i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class we have some of the lowest taxes in the developed world brother --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:927054191] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite> <quote>i feel like if we didn't tax the hell out of the middle class</quote> we have some of the lowest taxes in the developed world brother </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 09/06/19 9:35:18 AM #49:	It's going to feel so fucking good to wake up one day in an America where Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell are no longer in any position of power. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:927054321] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>It's going to feel so fucking good to wake up one day in an America where Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell are no longer in any position of power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Petrichoric 09/06/19 9:36:39 AM #50:	Tired-Insomniac posted... It's going to feel so fucking good to wake up one day in an America where Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell are no longer in any position of power. 2021 for the first, when he voluntarily retires for the second. Asking Kentucky to not vote against its own interests is like asking a dog not to sniff asses <cite>Petrichoric posted [p:927054355] in Moscow Bit... [t:77991272]...</cite> <quote>Tired-Insomniac posted...</cite> <quote>It's going to feel so fucking good to wake up one day in an America where Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell are no longer in any position of power.</quote> 2021 for the first, when he voluntarily retires for the second. Asking Kentucky to not vote against its own interests is like asking a dog not to sniff asses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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