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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:36:49 PM
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Also Conservatives: Outlaw abortion!
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09/05/19 4:37:18 PM
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So you're comparing peopel who have guns already to wanting to stop women having abortions?

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Bananana
09/05/19 4:37:25 PM
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Conservatives lack critical thinking, more at 11

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iPhone_7
09/05/19 4:39:09 PM
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If you ban abortion then people are just going to illegally have abortions

Ban guns
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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:39:46 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
If you ban abortion then people are just going to illegally have abortions

Ban guns


No one wants to ban guns though

Edit: to be more accurate, a very small amount of people do, but majority of them (and afaik all politicians with the ability to actually do anything about it just want better control somehow but not outright banning) don't want them banned
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Nikra
09/05/19 4:40:32 PM
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NRA is a domestic terrorist organisation. Like it or not.
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LastTomorrow
09/05/19 4:41:38 PM
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Honestly people will find ways to get guns

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coh
09/05/19 4:42:14 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
No one wants to ban guns though
That's where you're wrong
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HypnoCoosh
09/05/19 4:44:12 PM
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ITT people confuse abortion with the 2nd amendment of the Constitution that make up the Bill of Rights.

Public education is a failed leftist indoctrination system. More at 11.
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HypnoCoosh
09/05/19 4:44:45 PM
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coh posted...
Tired-Insomniac posted...
No one wants to ban guns though
That's where you're wrong


"we won't ban guns, just your ability to purchase or own one"
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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:45:25 PM
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coh posted...
Tired-Insomniac posted...
No one wants to ban guns though
That's where you're wrong


Edited my post, I realize a small minority of people do want them gone but I haven't seen anyone important (as in politicians trying to pass gun laws) calling for an outright ban

But feel free to prove me wrong, new information is always welcomed
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Southernfatman
09/05/19 4:46:28 PM
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"We need guns to fight a corrupt/tyrannical government!"
*Supports a corrupt/tyrannical political party*

Flip side:

"The government and police are corrupt and abusive*
"Only the government/cops need guns."

The former side is a lot larger than the latter group though.
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ModLogic
09/05/19 4:46:39 PM
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bad guys will kill if they want anyway. lets just legalize murder.

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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:48:27 PM
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ModLogic posted...
bad guys will kill if they want anyway. lets just legalize murder.


Why ban anything tbh

Criminals are just gonna get high and drunk drive into their neighbor's living room then steal the TV and shoot the dog when it barks at them anyway
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HypnoCoosh
09/05/19 4:49:56 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
I haven't seen anyone important (as in politicians trying to pass gun laws) calling for an outright ban


Red Flag laws bro.

Literally being designed as a means to do exactly this.
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Tropicalwood
09/05/19 4:50:26 PM
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It only took Ash 5 seconds to violate the serious federal gun law, of making an possessing a shotgun with a barrel of less than 18 inches without paying $200 to the ATF and waiting 5-9 months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmI3pJHIT90" data-time="


HypnoCoosh posted...
Tired-Insomniac posted...
I haven't seen anyone important (as in politicians trying to pass gun laws) calling for an outright ban


Red Flag laws bro.

Literally being designed as a means to do exactly this.


I don't see how anyone that claims to give two fucks about public safety and civil rights could defend those laws. They are literally stripping people of their rights without due process, and the cops on occasion will flat out murder them in the process of illegally seizing private property.
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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:51:28 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Tired-Insomniac posted...
I haven't seen anyone important (as in politicians trying to pass gun laws) calling for an outright ban


Red Flag laws bro.

Literally being designed as a means to do exactly this.


Isn't that what Trump is backing? Thought he was very pro-gun
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Pepys Monster
09/05/19 4:52:53 PM
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I have an idea. Don't ban guns, abortions, or drugs.
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justaguy3492
09/05/19 4:53:31 PM
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Do people really think that making things illegal has no impact on people doing said things? Of course some people are still going to do whatever is banned, but most people won't. That said, protect women's rights to choose and ban certain guns/accessories.
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Tired-Insomniac
09/05/19 4:53:37 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
I have an idea. Don't ban guns, abortions, or drugs.


Bingo

Well maybe some drugs, like the really really fucking bad ones
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I Like Toast
09/05/19 4:53:41 PM
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Liberals: drugs should all be legal, people can just get them anyways

Also liberals: we need stricter gun control so it's harder to get certain guns!

Liberals: the government is corrupt and wasteful

Also liberals: the government should pay for every thing. Health care, student loans, green Energy, etc

And for balance

Conservatives: the government should be small and taxes lower.

Conservatives: the military needs more money!

Hypocrisy isn't exclusive to a political point.

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HypnoCoosh
09/05/19 4:54:15 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
Isn't that what Trump is backing? Thought he was very pro-gun


Apparently from what I've heard.

I've very disappointed in Trump on this. I hope he isn't serious.
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Gobstoppers12
09/05/19 4:59:58 PM
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One is a guaranteed constitutional right explicitly granted to the people.

The other is baby murder.
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Questionmarktarius
09/05/19 4:59:59 PM
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From another thread:

Paragon21XX posted...
Laws exist to penalize crime more than they exist to enforce good behaviors. Laws that penalize also law-abiding citizens for the actions of the lawless are unconscionable.
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Pepys Monster
09/05/19 5:02:11 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I have an idea. Don't ban guns, abortions, or drugs.


Bingo

Well maybe some drugs, like the really really fucking bad ones

I mean, heroin kills. But you have all these people arbitrarily drawing the line by saying "Marijuana should be legal, but nothing else!" even though mushrooms are just as natural, molly just makes people want to dance and hug, etc.
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Tyranthraxus
09/05/19 5:03:32 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Liberals: drugs should all be legal, people can just get them anyways
That's not really the argument but whatever

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Elmer_Glue
09/05/19 5:08:15 PM
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The end goal of gun control advocates is future generations not having access, or want of guns due to either strict laws, or just complete disinterest in firearms in general due to culture shifts. Take your pick.
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RchHomieQuanChi
09/05/19 5:09:11 PM
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Also conservatives: Ban marijuana!
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RchHomieQuanChi
09/05/19 5:11:09 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
ITT people confuse abortion with the 2nd amendment of the Constitution that make up the Bill of Rights.

Public education is a failed leftist indoctrination system. More at 11.


ITP: Person doesn't think an amendment created almost 300 years ago needs to be re-evaluated
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I Like Toast
09/05/19 5:11:54 PM
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Elmer_Glue posted...
The end goal of gun control advocates is future generations not having access, or want of guns due to either strict laws, or just complete disinterest in firearms in general due to culture shifts. Take your pick.
The end goal of gun control advocates is to not have school shootings and other preventable gun related tragedies.

The constitution makes banning guns impossible without a constitutional amendment that requires 2/3 of states to agree and will never happen

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/05/19 5:13:35 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Liberals: drugs should all be legal, people can just get them anyways

Also liberals: we need stricter gun control so it's harder to get certain guns!


The fundamental difference being that someone can't pick up a drug and kill 16 people with it.
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Gobstoppers12
09/05/19 5:20:51 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Liberals: drugs should all be legal, people can just get them anyways

Also liberals: we need stricter gun control so it's harder to get certain guns!


The fundamental difference being that someone can't pick up a drug and kill 16 people with it.

Dealers sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.
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I Like Toast
09/05/19 5:22:07 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The fundamental difference being that someone can't pick up a drug and kill 16 people with it.


Pretty sure more than 16 people have died from drugs. Which isnt getting into rape or even the impact of addiction on an individual or those around them. Heck I bet even some of those mass shootings were done over drugs or on drugs.

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Webmaster4531
09/05/19 5:34:54 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
ITT people confuse abortion with the 2nd amendment of the Constitution that make up the Bill of Rights.

Public education is a failed leftist indoctrination system. More at 11.

What reason besides religion to ban abortion? No reason for an atheist to hold human cells sacred when Hitler was a fetus.

Gobstoppers12 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

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creativerealms
09/05/19 5:36:45 PM
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Yet conservitives are also agianst making it harder for criminals to get guns and wont do anything to get rid of illegal guns. Which should be the main focus.

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hockeybub89
09/05/19 5:38:39 PM
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If you have laws, then people will break them anyway

Ban laws
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Pepys Monster
09/05/19 5:39:25 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Yet conservitives are also agianst making it harder for criminals to get guns and wont do anything to get rid of illegal guns. Which should be the main focus.

Didn't Obama literally sell illegal guns to criminals?
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Tropicalwood
09/05/19 5:41:03 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Liberals: drugs should all be legal, people can just get them anyways

Also liberals: we need stricter gun control so it's harder to get certain guns!


The fundamental difference being that someone can't pick up a drug and kill 16 people with it.

Overdosing causes 70k deaths per year, which is almost 5 times higher than homicide involving a firearm.
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Hanky_Bannister
09/05/19 5:41:22 PM
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stop feeding the troll
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hockeybub89
09/05/19 5:41:37 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."
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ModLogic
09/05/19 5:43:10 PM
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but people who want to do drugs will still do drugs.

the solution is to teach kids how to safely use drugs from a young age. and ensure schools have cheap and clean supplies for the children

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Tropicalwood
09/05/19 5:44:03 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.
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Gobstoppers12
09/05/19 5:46:28 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Tucker Carlson has done a lot to spread the word about doctors over prescribing pain killers, sometimes at the manufacturer's encouragement (for profit of course). It's a pretty fucked up situation, to be honest.
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hockeybub89
09/05/19 5:48:24 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Still a lot more to the process, booboo
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Dark_SilverX
09/05/19 5:48:30 PM
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Remember, people who don't have a mental illness now can get it later.
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Tropicalwood
09/05/19 5:52:46 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Still a lot more to the process, booboo

Not really, they just go in when the shifts change.
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hockeybub89
09/05/19 5:54:17 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Still a lot more to the process, booboo

Not really, they just go in when the shifts change.

Are you saying people steal drugs from pharmacies? Is that the same as blaming pharmacies for enabling drug addiction?
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Tropicalwood
09/05/19 5:56:48 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Still a lot more to the process, booboo

Not really, they just go in when the shifts change.

Are you saying people steal drugs from pharmacies? Is that the same as blaming pharmacies for enabling drug addiction?

No, I'm saying they go in when the shifts change so they can catch a doctor that's leaving and get them to prescribe them simply so they can go home.
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Webmaster4531
09/05/19 5:56:55 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qCKR6wy94U" data-time="


I don't know exactly where I'm going with this. Just didn't seem right for Gobstopper to fear monger a magic shadow drug dealer.
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hockeybub89
09/05/19 6:01:18 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pharmacies sell enough drugs to kill hundreds of people via accidental overdose. Drugs are actually deadlier than guns in the US.

Pharmacies don't just sell drugs mah dude. You can't just roll up to the window and say "Give me 100 of your best oxycodones."

Might as well just do it that way, too many drug addicts faking injuries to get a hit.

Still a lot more to the process, booboo

Not really, they just go in when the shifts change.

Are you saying people steal drugs from pharmacies? Is that the same as blaming pharmacies for enabling drug addiction?

No, I'm saying they go in when the shifts change so they can catch a doctor that's leaving and get them to prescribe them simply so they can go home.

I thought we were talking about pharmacies. Pharmacies aren't just vending machines. Regularly getting a bad faith doctor and bad faith pharmacy to hook you up with a fix is not a very sustainable option.
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