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A 21-year-old Palestinian woman died on Thursday in suspicious circumstances that have caused massive outrage among activists and social media users across the Middle East and North Africa. Israa Gharib, a makeup artist from Bethlehem, died in a coma due to head trauma, in what activists and sources close to the victim are saying was a brutal honor killing. The culprits are believed to be her father, her brother-in-law, Sheikh Mohamed El Safy, and her two brothers, Bahaa and Ihab, a resident of Canada.

It all began when Gharib went to meet a potential suitor in a public place and posted a video of the outing on her Instagram page. According to a friend of the victims, Gharibs mother was fully aware of the meeting and the suitors sister was also in attendance.

According to sources online, Gharibs cousin then showed the video to the victims father and brothers, allegedly urging them to act to prevent scandal and accusing Israa of dishonoring herself and bringing shame to the family by being seen in the company of a man outside the bonds of marriage.

Gharibs friend claims that upon seeing the video, her brothers and brother-in-law began beating and torturing her, and proceeded to terminate the engagement. Other sources claim she fell from the 2nd floor while attempting to flee the brutal assault. She was later hospitalized due to a fractured spine.

Gharibs father, brothers, and brother-in-law followed her to the hospital, her friend alleges, and resumed the beating, telling hospital staff they were performing an exorcism on the victim whom they believed was possessed by a demon. A harrowing audio recording of the assault was leaked by one of the nurses at the hospital that purportedly features Gharibs repeated horrified screams.

She was then released from the hospital, after which she returned home where she reportedly suffered a head injury at the hands of her brother, Ihab, whom eye witnesses say was seen threatening to kill her, prompting some on social media to call on the Canadian government to take legal action against him. Gharib went into a coma, before her heart stopped.

In a Facebook statement, the victims family denied any wrongdoing, claiming she suffered mental and psychological disorders that led to her fall from the 2nd floor of their Bethlehem house.

Gharibs story is now one of the top trending topics on social media, with thousands of users and activists calling for social, political, and legal reforms to protect women from violence in Palestine, with organizations such as Palestinian Human Rights organization Adalah calling the alleged murder a heinous killing.

Feminist blogger Fadumo Adan also weighed in, telling The New Arab, as a survivor of an honor killing, Israas story triggered a deeply embedded fear of mine. Honor killings will never be justifiable. We shouldnt have to mitigate the risk of honor killings by limiting our own person freedom, autonomy and self-determination.

The Bethlehem prosecution office is currently investigating the murder and has ordered an autopsy, reports Youm7.

Despite a 2018 amendment to article 99 of the Palestinian penal code, which allowed judges to reduce sentences for perpetrators of honor killings, reports show that the practice is on the rise in the West Bank, Gaza, and among Israels Palestinian community.

https://egyptianstreets.com/2019/08/31/palestinian-woman- murdered-in-honor-killing-after-posting-instagram-video-with-fiance/

This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago.
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Disgusting.
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I feel like the women in the middle east should just killing all the men in their sleep, sparing of course the ones that aren't complete fucking fanatics.
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According to sources online, Gharibs cousin then showed the video to the victims father and brothers, allegedly urging them to act to prevent scandal and accusing Israa of dishonoring herself and bringing shame to the family by being seen in the company of a man outside the bonds of marriage.

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I will never understand this honor killing bullshit. how does a dad and 2 brothers all decide it's ok to murder the girl they raised/grew up with?

Shablagoo posted...

Feminist blogger Fadumo Adan also weighed in, telling The New Arab, as a survivor of an honor killing...

Not that she has anything to do with the article, I'd love to hear what her views are regarding feminism. I doubt it'll be anything like Western's society's version.
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Ill bet this thread gets a ton of posts... not.

This is sad.

Its also gonna basically get a pass.
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CreekCo posted...

Ill bet this thread gets a ton of posts... not.

This is sad.

Its also gonna basically get a pass.

Ive not seen anyone give it a pass ITT, or are you talking about it terms of legal action against the murderers?
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Shablagoo posted...

CreekCo posted...

Ill bet this thread gets a ton of posts... not.

This is sad.

Its also gonna basically get a pass.

Ive not seen anyone give it a pass ITT, or are you talking about it terms of legal action against the murderers?

Theres only like... ten posts. That basically means people dont actually care. Theres a thread about Chinese food with almost 40 posts. Society turns a blind eye to this behavior.
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CreekCo posted...

Society turns a blind eye to this behavior.

No they don't neither does CE.

CE loves this kind if topic usually
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this medieval shit has to be outlawed.
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sad and disgusting
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Pathetic
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"This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago."

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

Then again, what do you expect from people who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.
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Reminder that we tried to westernize the middle east in the 70s, and it was going pretty well.
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Lock the murderers up and throw away the key
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Zikten posted...

I will never understand this honor killing bullshit. how does a dad and 2 brothers all decide it's ok to murder the girl they raised/grew up with?

Exactly, but for some people religion goes above everything and thats fkn sad.
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darkjedilink posted...

"This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago."

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

Then again, what do you expect from people who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

Im not really seeing how your logic follows. I said Muhammad rallied against stuff like this, not people 1,500 years later who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.
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JuanCarlos1 posted...

Zikten posted...

I will never understand this honor killing bullshit. how does a dad and 2 brothers all decide it's ok to murder the girl they raised/grew up with?

Exactly, but for some people religion goes above everything and thats fkn sad.

Its actually culture, not religion. Unfortunately in many Muslim majority countries they are taken together with the same enthusiasm which creates such dangerous cases.

And Muslim imams, scholars, and leaders do not do enough to actively condemn these social ills of violence towards women. All they care about is lecturing about some topic irrelevant to everyday Muslims, lecturing about hijab, or telling non-Muslims women have rights in Islam and everything bad is culture not Islam. So? Many Muslims are deeply immersed in these messed up cultural ideologies but they only care about western ideologies like feminism. The state of the ummah is so sad.
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teepan95 posted...

Lock the murderers up and throw away the key

Not gonna happen. That's how Palestinians have lived for a very, very long time.
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Shablagoo posted...

darkjedilink posted...

"This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago."

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

Then again, what do you expect from people who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

Im not really seeing how your logic follows. I said Muhammad rallied against stuff like this, not people 1,500 years later who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

I'm saying that you're full of shit for saying that this is what started Muhammad's path to revolution.

If Muhammad cared about women's rights, this type of bullshit wouldn't be pretty much everywhere in Muslim nations.
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darkjedilink posted...

I'm saying that you're full of shit for saying that this is what started Muhammad's path to revolution.

If Muhammad cared about women's rights, this type of bullshit wouldn't be pretty much everywhere in Muslim nations.

Its not the only thing, but yes the poor treatment of disenfranchised (particularly at the time) people such as women, homeless, and orphans were some of the major ills that he saw in society and grieved over.

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Shablagoo posted...

And Muslim imams, scholars, and leaders do not do enough to actively condemn these social ills of violence towards women. All they care about is lecturing about some topic irrelevant to everyday Muslims, lecturing about hijab, or telling non-Muslims women have rights in Islam and everything bad is culture not Islam. So? Many Muslims are deeply immersed in these messed up cultural ideologies but they only care about criticizing western ideologies like feminism. The state of the ummah is so sad.

I think I love you (no homo)
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darkjedilink posted...

Shablagoo posted...

darkjedilink posted...

"This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago."

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

Then again, what do you expect from people who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

Im not really seeing how your logic follows. I said Muhammad rallied against stuff like this, not people 1,500 years later who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

I'm saying that you're full of shit for saying that this is what started Muhammad's path to revolution.

If Muhammad cared about women's rights, this type of bullshit wouldn't be pretty much everywhere in Muslim nations.

He also wouldn't have raped a 9 year old. He was a pedophile warlord and nothing more.
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teepan95 posted...

I think I love you (no homo)

^_^

MuayThai85 posted...

He also wouldn't have raped a 9 year old.

I thought you were in that topic where I destroyed that false claim.

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Just another day in the sewage pit that is Palestine.
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darkjedilink posted...

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

the non muslim minorities in middle eastern countries aren't less patriarchal than the muslim majority. also hindu Indians treat their women pretty much the same as muslim indians/Pakistanis do if you wanna extend it to south asia

culture > religion in pretty much every case
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Shablagoo posted...

teepan95 posted...

I think I love you (no homo)

^_^

MuayThai85 posted...

He also wouldn't have raped a 9 year old.

I thought you were in that topic where I destroyed that false claim.

Are you denying that he had a wife named A'isha who he married when she was 6 and then consummated the marriage at 9? All this according to her own words?
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M_Live posted...

I get different cultures blah blah blah but how we do we have people in 2019 with such backward fuck ass worldviews as to do shit like this

Its extra fucking dumbass and backwards because she wasnt even doing anything remotely haram in the first place. Not that she would have deserved this even if she had, but she literally followed all the rules and some fuckboy incel brainless male family members got, idk, jealous or some shit? Fucking ridiculous. RIP

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Zikten posted...

I will never understand this honor killing bullshit. how does a dad and 2 brothers all decide it's ok to murder the girl they raised/grew up with?

They see women as less than human.
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MuayThai85 posted...

Are you denying that he had a wife named A'isha who he married when she was 6 and then consummated the marriage at 9? All this according to her own words?

Writing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, the Orientalist scholar W Montgomery Watt wrote: "Of all the world's great men, none has been so much maligned as Muhammad."

Interestingly, of the many criticisms of Muhammad made at the time by his opponents, none focused on Aisha's age at marriage.

Other Muslims doubt the very idea that Aisha was six at the time of marriage, referring to historians who have questioned the reliability of Aisha's age as given in the saying. In a society without a birth registry and where people did not celebrate birthdays, most people estimated their own age and that of others. Aisha would have been no different. What's more, Aisha had already been engaged to someone else before she married Muhammad, suggesting she had already been mature enough by the standards of her society to consider marriage for a while. It seems difficult to reconcile this with her being six.

In addition, some modern Muslim scholars have more recently cast doubt on the veracity of the saying, or hadith, used to assert Aisha's young age. In Islam, the hadith literature (sayings of the prophet) is considered secondary to the Qur'an. While the Qur'an is considered to be the verbatim word of God, the hadiths were transmitted over time through a rigorous but not infallible methodology. Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse. As the living embodiment of Islam, Muhammad's actions reflect the Qur'an's teachings on marriage,

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth
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It's a shame we can't do anything about such horrible practices. I can't imagine killing anyone, especially a loved one, for the sake of some shallow "honor".
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Umbreon posted...

It's a shame we can't do anything about such horrible practices. I can't imagine killing anyone, especially a loved one, for the sake of some shallow "honor".

I cant believe nothing was done to stop them at the hospital.
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fucking hell
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Shablagoo posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Are you denying that he had a wife named A'isha who he married when she was 6 and then consummated the marriage at 9? All this according to her own words?

Writing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, the Orientalist scholar W Montgomery Watt wrote: "Of all the world's great men, none has been so much maligned as Muhammad."

Interestingly, of the many criticisms of Muhammad made at the time by his opponents, none focused on Aisha's age at marriage.

Other Muslims doubt the very idea that Aisha was six at the time of marriage, referring to historians who have questioned the reliability of Aisha's age as given in the saying. In a society without a birth registry and where people did not celebrate birthdays, most people estimated their own age and that of others. Aisha would have been no different. What's more, Aisha had already been engaged to someone else before she married Muhammad, suggesting she had already been mature enough by the standards of her society to consider marriage for a while. It seems difficult to reconcile this with her being six.

In addition, some modern Muslim scholars have more recently cast doubt on the veracity of the saying, or hadith, used to assert Aisha's young age. In Islam, the hadith literature (sayings of the prophet) is considered secondary to the Qur'an. While the Qur'an is considered to be the verbatim word of God, the hadiths were transmitted over time through a rigorous but not infallible methodology. Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse. As the living embodiment of Islam, Muhammad's actions reflect the Qur'an's teachings on marriage,

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

Got any actual evidence of such a theory, and not just a Guardian article citing unnamed scholars?
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Shablagoo posted...

Umbreon posted...

It's a shame we can't do anything about such horrible practices. I can't imagine killing anyone, especially a loved one, for the sake of some shallow "honor".

I cant believe nothing was done to stop them at the hospital.

Oh, come the fuck on, dude. Are you really going to say that you think that this kind of barbarism that is so commonplace in pretty much every Muslim nation on Earth is unheard of to you?

The hospital staff CONDONES the behavior.
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Shablagoo posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Are you denying that he had a wife named A'isha who he married when she was 6 and then consummated the marriage at 9? All this according to her own words?

Writing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, the Orientalist scholar W Montgomery Watt wrote: "Of all the world's great men, none has been so much maligned as Muhammad."

Interestingly, of the many criticisms of Muhammad made at the time by his opponents, none focused on Aisha's age at marriage.

Other Muslims doubt the very idea that Aisha was six at the time of marriage, referring to historians who have questioned the reliability of Aisha's age as given in the saying. In a society without a birth registry and where people did not celebrate birthdays, most people estimated their own age and that of others. Aisha would have been no different. What's more, Aisha had already been engaged to someone else before she married Muhammad, suggesting she had already been mature enough by the standards of her society to consider marriage for a while. It seems difficult to reconcile this with her being six.

In addition, some modern Muslim scholars have more recently cast doubt on the veracity of the saying, or hadith, used to assert Aisha's young age. In Islam, the hadith literature (sayings of the prophet) is considered secondary to the Qur'an. While the Qur'an is considered to be the verbatim word of God, the hadiths were transmitted over time through a rigorous but not infallible methodology. Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse. As the living embodiment of Islam, Muhammad's actions reflect the Qur'an's teachings on marriage,

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

That doesn't disprove anything actually. I'm going to believe the part where she is quoted claiming that she was 9 when they consummated the marriage. Again, Muhammad was a pedophile warlord and nothing more.
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MuayThai85 posted...

That doesn't disprove anything actually. I'm going to believe the part where she is quoted claiming that she was 9 when the consummated the marriage. Again, Muhammad was a pedophile warlord and nothing more.

>relentlessly maligned for everything by his contemporary critics
>not called a pedophile by them

Is it fun being a bigot and believing Middle-Ages Crusader propaganda?

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darkjedilink posted...

Oh, come the fuck on, dude. Are you really going to say that you think that this kind of barbarism that is so commonplace in pretty much every Muslim nation on Earth is unheard of to you?

The hospital staff CONDONES the behavior.

Not the nurse who filmed her cries

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darkjedilink posted...

Shablagoo posted...

darkjedilink posted...

"This is exactly the horrible violent bullshit against women that helped prompt Muhammad to start a revolution 1500 years ago."

Lol. Is that why almost every Muslim-majority nation does shit like this?

Then again, what do you expect from people who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

Im not really seeing how your logic follows. I said Muhammad rallied against stuff like this, not people 1,500 years later who literally elect a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government.

I'm saying that you're full of shit for saying that this is what started Muhammad's path to revolution.

If Muhammad cared about women's rights, this type of bullshit wouldn't be pretty much everywhere in Muslim nations.

Muhammad was a major reformer in his time.

Ending the killing of daughters was a major part of that and is well-documented. Unfortunately, the locals were pretty dead set in their pre-Islamic cultural norms, going so far as constructing a mountain of literature completely separate from his recitations, commentary on the literature, and commentary on the commentaries, to effectively distort and appropriate his message to better accommodate the original cultural status quo after he died.
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Shablagoo posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Oh, come the fuck on, dude. Are you really going to say that you think that this kind of barbarism that is so commonplace in pretty much every Muslim nation on Earth is unheard of to you?

The hospital staff CONDONES the behavior.

Not the nurse who filmed her cries

Not the female nurse? Who would also be the victim of an honor killing for being around a man without a male family member present?

I wonder why she didn't do anything?

Are you really this dense?
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TheMikh posted...

Muhammad was a major reformer in his time.

Ending the killing of daughters was a major part of that and is well-documented. Unfortunately, the locals were pretty dead set in their pre-Islamic cultural norms, going so far as constructing a mountain of literature completely separate from his recitations, commentary on the literature, and commentary on the commentaries, to effectively distort and appropriate his message to better accommodate the original cultural status quo after he died.

Thank you, sir

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Zikten posted...

I will never understand this honor killing bullshit. how does a dad and 2 brothers all decide it's ok to murder the girl they raised/grew up with?

Cultural differences. The way of thought and believes are different there.

Like if you walk into a cannibal tribe. They're not going to feel sorry for you when they break your head open with a rock.
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I missed post 46, whatever it was
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