Current Events > If Robin Williams did comedy in 2019, he would get the same treatment as Dave.

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And that's why Chappelle's new special is so great. He put his foot down and let the audience know that the reins of his material are in his hands and his hands alone, and not in the hands of the audience.

I'm sitting here and imagining what kind of villain Robin Williams would be today if he were still alive and doing stand up comedy.

Do you people ever stop

Malfunction posted...

Do you people ever stop

No. Do you have some way of making me?

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Topic title isn't wrong. He'd be roasted over Mrs. Doubtfire.
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shockthemonkey posted...

This is a stupid take thats based on absolutely nothing other than you wanting to use a dead comedian for attention

No. This is me being a fan of Robin Williams since my childhood, and recognizing the truth about how comedians and other celebrities are becoming the victim of fake out rage in order to create villains so people can have someone to shake their finger at. I don't foresee that if Robin Williams were still alive, that he would cave in to this narrative and that therefore he would receive the same treatment. Simple. but why am I bothering to tell you any of this. You're probably one of the people who is trying to create that narrative.

Malfunction posted...

Do you people ever stop

Username-Post checks out

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Oh wait. I looked at your user name now and I remember you from another topic I made a while back. Yup, I recognize you as someone who thinks everyone who doesn't follow the extreme left-wing narrative is alt right. I was correct.

Becauseshockthemonkey posted...

Ok demonstrate why you think that

Why I think Robin Williams would become a victim of outrage that is focused on creating villains to shake fingers at rather than solve problems? Because he was always a vulgar comedian when he did stand up, and in 2019 all vulgar comedians who don't shill for the left get this treatment.

Why I think you're one of the people creating the fake outrage narrative? Because I remember you trying to BTFO me in another topic I made about how maybe not everyone claiming to be trans actually has gender dysphoria -- that some might be doing it because it's a new and exciting idea or that they perceive that society treats men better so they want to try to get in on that. Because I know two FtM trans people whom I am almost 100% positive that is the case.

He definitely would.

FFS people have given Jerry Seinfeld shit, they gave Norm shit, they'd give Robin shit too.
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Imagine if he did mrs doubtfire in 2019. People would accuse him of appropriating trans face

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Ic3Bullet posted...

Becauseshockthemonkey posted...

Ok demonstrate why you think that

Why I think Robin Williams would become a victim of outrage that is focused on creating villains to shake fingers at rather than solve problems? Because he was always a vulgar comedian when he did stand up, and in 2019 all vulgar comedians who don't shill for the left get this treatment.

Why I think you're one of the people creating the fake outrage narrative? Because I remember you trying to BTFO me in another topic I made about how maybe not everyone claiming to be trans actually has gender dysphoria -- that some might be doing it because it's a new and exciting idea or that they perceive that society treats men better so they want to try to get in on that. Because I know two FtM trans people whom I am almost 100% positive that is the case.

This is quite the take.
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shockthemonkey posted...

What specifically about Robin Williams makes you think people would dislike him? What was he vulgar about that you think would generate backlash? What controversial jokes was he famous for?

I don't think anything he would say would generate backlash. I know that the extreme left generates their own backlash. Just look at Joe Rogan. Literally a liberal but people on here are calling him alt right.

I'm not sure what treatment Dave is receiving that is so bad. He made jokes that he knew were controversial, they turned out to be controversial, and tons of people loved the special anyway.

What I find so weird about all of this is apparently people are only allowed to have positive opinions about it. No one is allowed to not like it for some reason
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eston posted...

I'm not sure what treatment Dave is receiving that is so bad. He made jokes that he knew were controversial, they turned out to be controversial, and tons of people loved the special anyway.

What I find so weird about all of this is apparently people are only allowed to have positive opinions about it. No one is allowed to not like it for some reason

You're absolutely correct, man. Your response is pretty rational. It's just... we're living in a time where people are having their tweets dug up from 10 years ago in an attempt to destroy their careers. A lot of people, including myself are kind of getting sick of it and therefore a little protective of celebrities that we like.

Sure. We live in a time where an entire generation searches for things to get offended by so they can post them on social media and get attention from the righteous woke crowd. So long as that's an effective way to get attention, people will find anything they can to get offended by.

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Ic3Bullet posted...

eston posted...

I'm not sure what treatment Dave is receiving that is so bad. He made jokes that he knew were controversial, they turned out to be controversial, and tons of people loved the special anyway.

What I find so weird about all of this is apparently people are only allowed to have positive opinions about it. No one is allowed to not like it for some reason

You're absolutely correct, man. Your response is pretty rational. It's just... we're living in a time where people are having their tweets dug up from 10 years ago in an attempt to destroy their careers. A lot of people, including myself are kind of getting sick of it and therefore a little protective of celebrities that we like.

I don't think public figures should even use Twitter tbqh. If someone gets famous, deleting all that shit should be priority. Hell I don't even use reddit because I don't like the idea of people combing through my old posts.
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I mean I don't care for twitter at all and when I did have one for a brief period 8 years ago, I didn't really "get it" and and had no appeal to me. But what I do understand is it's a social media platform that kind of bridges the gap between celebrities and normal people. It's not uncommon for a celeb to respond to a tweet from some guy/gal who works at K-Mart. So I don't agree with your statement that public figures shouldn't use twitter.

And see for me, that aspect of Twitter is one of the reasons public figures shouldn't use it. Bridging the gap in that way just ends up getting people in trouble, and it also has the affect of making people famous who really have no reason to be famous
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eston posted...

And see for me, that aspect of Twitter is one of the reasons public figures shouldn't use it. Bridging the gap in that way just ends up getting people in trouble, and it also has the affect of making people famous who really have no reason to be famous

That feels like you a blaming the victim 'you shouldn't use twitter because when you share your ideas and jokes with the general public they are going to be unfairly hostile and reactionary'
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*A comedian gets any criticism*

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shockthemonkey posted...

What about him makes you think that would happen?

I see what you're doing. You keep asking me to name something specific that Robin did or said, so that if I fail to do that then you can say I'm dodging your question.

And I am dodging your question, because your question is the wrong one. It's difficult to go back 10 years and find specific jokes that would have triggered the left if they were told today. Because when those jokes were being told 10 years ago, the left was the counter culture and they were the ones who were embracing offensive material. What I have been saying is in 2019, it doesn't matter if a celebrity actually does something wrong or not. The outrage culture is on a headhunting mission and will do anything to find the next villain to shake their finger at, even if it means digging up a tweet from 10 years ago that was a joke they would have embraced at the time. I'm answering the right questions, which are "Who is responsible for destroying careers of innocent celebrities?" The outrage culture. And "Who are they targeting?" Everyone who isn't a complete shill for the left. I'm a liberal, by the way. Or at least by the standards from 3 years ago I was one.

shockthemonkey posted...

Your argument is that because of how weve changed, he wouldnt still be acceptable. Im asking you to justify that stance by showing us literally any reason to believe that.

And you wont do it.

OK, so now you're giving me the ok to post an example of a reason to believe the left will create fake outrage and target anyone. That's what I've been trying to say the whole time. That's really easy. Here are two that I thought of immediately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5D_ltpw7CI" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJteQTPBlU" data-time="

Also I'd like to point out that you're using the same argument tactics that you used in the topic I talked about earlier that I remembered you from. You would ask me questions designed to make me trip up and take the argument where you wanted it to go, and when I refused to do that you would be all like "and you won't do it because [insert statement about my morality here]."

Andy Ngo would know a lot about fake outrage given his penchant for staging and lying about incidents to incite reactionary outrage

Nope, I have done a great job illustrating my point, and you are backpedaling about points that I have already addressed and saying that I ignored them.

shockthemonkey posted...

What specifically about Robin Williams makes you think people would dislike him? What was he vulgar about that you think would generate backlash? What controversial jokes was he famous for?

https://nypost.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-50-greatest-jokes/amp/

Gay joke

Joke about women being bad leaders

Joke about jewish person

Joke about parapalegic

shockthemonkey posted...

Strange lie. So what about Robin Williams makes you think that hed get the Chapelle treatment? What treatment is that exactly, anyway?

Literally post #26 verbatim.

Yeah with Robin Williams he has a different style. He just shoots out tons of jokes super fast without even thinking them out all the way, so it feels less like he is making an active attempt to make a statement.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Now, whats the Chapelle treatment that were worried about him getting for these?

Being labeled as Alt Right for not strictly adhering to the narrative of the left.

#metoo

The special wasn't great. He mostly just repeated what most other comedians have been saying for the last couple of years. He called out the predictable cancel culture people of doing what he claimed they would do after his special which they inevitably did. Complain about him on twitter and random articles on left-leaning websites.

That's not edgy he just pointed out the most predictable detractors and then complained exclusively about them for a while. And because comedians are finding solidarity with each other about societies loss of humor nothing bad is really going to happen to him. Nothing bad would happen to Robin Williams either if he were still alive. He'd be defended fiercely

We're just in at a point that comedy is not valued in our culture. It likely won't last and people in the future might be more open to jokes. This is how culture shifts work. It doesn't happen in one fluid motion. It's all over the place. But that is how progress has worked throughout history.
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Its easy to abuse the memory of the dead for your nefarious board trolling purposes when they're not able to rebut your asinine assertions.

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He was a pretty bad standup tbh

His best stuff was his serious movies
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That joke in the epilogue about Mike Pence. Fucking incredible.

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but can I be a non gender vampire pony in Cyberpunk? If not then Poland is racist.

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