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knuxnole posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

knuxnole posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

knuxnole posted...

two questions:

1) What if you don't know how to cook

I'm genuinely happy to see that you've gotten plenty positive info so far in this topic, but serious question - how did you reach adulthood without being able to do basic cooking? Did you never do any with your parents? Or Home Economics/Home Sciences at school?

It wasn't required that I had to cook in my entire life. My parents did all the cooking so I didn't have to. I didn't take Home Economics or Home sciences in high school.

Huh, fair enough. Here in the UK you have to (or at least did when I was at school) do Home Economics as a class once a week for the first two years of high school, so that everyone learns basic cooking and diet/nutrition advice.

ahh, maybe that's why british people cook so well!

Here in the US, you just take Math, Science, English, S.S. You can take electives in music, art, spanish, PE, etc, but education is very relaxed and you don't learn any life skill in high school like finances, cooking, mechanics, etc.

I would argue that those skills are more the responsibility and product of the home than the institution.
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MrPeppers posted...

knuxnole posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

knuxnole posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

knuxnole posted...

two questions:

1) What if you don't know how to cook

I'm genuinely happy to see that you've gotten plenty positive info so far in this topic, but serious question - how did you reach adulthood without being able to do basic cooking? Did you never do any with your parents? Or Home Economics/Home Sciences at school?

It wasn't required that I had to cook in my entire life. My parents did all the cooking so I didn't have to. I didn't take Home Economics or Home sciences in high school.

Huh, fair enough. Here in the UK you have to (or at least did when I was at school) do Home Economics as a class once a week for the first two years of high school, so that everyone learns basic cooking and diet/nutrition advice.

ahh, maybe that's why british people cook so well!

Here in the US, you just take Math, Science, English, S.S. You can take electives in music, art, spanish, PE, etc, but education is very relaxed and you don't learn any life skill in high school like finances, cooking, mechanics, etc.

I would argue that those skills are more the responsibility and product of the home than the institution.

What if parents don't believe that and blame the school instead? For some families they don't have time to teach kids.
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Im not a proponent of the no child left behind mentality, so children born to those families would miss out on that exposure. School does not have to be strictly academic, but when given the choice between, for example, learning another language or balancing a checkbook, the school serves the child better by giving them language opportunities IMO.
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It's maybe a cultural thing, but here I expect schools to prepare children for life, not just academic grades.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Buy a pack of fresh chicken breast from the market. Get a large mixing bowl and create a brine with sea salt and warm water, so the salt dissolves. Once the water cools, add the thawed chicken breast into the mixing bowl, cover the top of the bowl in saran wrap and place in the fridge overnight.

IMPORTANT know the weight of the chicken, as labeled on the packaging, as that will effect how long the chicken needs to cook.

The next day, get a flat pan for your oven, lay out the brined chicken on the pan after you spray it down with a cooking spray, like PAM. Coat the meat lightly with olive oil, season it generously with salt, pepper, garlic powder, oregano and a bit of basil. You can add others to taste. Season both sides so there's a coating on the meat.

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees, depending on the size of the chicken, it should cook for 22 to 28 minutes. Check the internal temperature with a meat thermometer (very cheap at most grocery stores) and your goal is an internal temperature of about 170 degrees F.

If that temperature is achieved, pull the pan out of the oven and rest it on the stove for about 5 to 10 minutes, and it's ready to serve.

Quoting this in case you didn't see it. This is my personal recipe from memory that I do quite a bit.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Buy a pack of fresh chicken breast from the market. Get a large mixing bowl and create a brine with sea salt and warm water, so the salt dissolves. Once the water cools, add the thawed chicken breast into the mixing bowl, cover the top of the bowl in saran wrap and place in the fridge overnight.

IMPORTANT know the weight of the chicken, as labeled on the packaging, as that will effect how long the chicken needs to cook.

The next day, get a flat pan for your oven, lay out the brined chicken on the pan after you spray it down with a cooking spray, like PAM. Coat the meat lightly with olive oil, season it generously with salt, pepper, garlic powder, oregano and a bit of basil. You can add others to taste. Season both sides so there's a coating on the meat.

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees, depending on the size of the chicken, it should cook for 22 to 28 minutes. Check the internal temperature with a meat thermometer (very cheap at most grocery stores) and your goal is an internal temperature of about 170 degrees F.

If that temperature is achieved, pull the pan out of the oven and rest it on the stove for about 5 to 10 minutes, and it's ready to serve.

Quoting this in case you didn't see it. This is my personal recipe from memory that I do quite a bit.

thank you!!!!
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knuxnole posted...

The whole point of food is to eat it when you feel hungry.

No. The whole point of food is to get the nutrition you need to live. Those foods do the opposite.
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I feel like tc may be an alien trying to learn our ways.

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Crisscross posted...

Foods high in preservatives (what processing does, makes food last for ever, so they can sell it cheaper) do not correctly digest inside your body. The preservatives that protect them from expiring, protect them from being digested in your body.

This is why processed foods make you fat, unhealthy, and dramatically increase your chances of cancer growths.

Fun fact: It is significantly more cancerous to occasionally eat preserved red meats, than it is to smoke a entire pack of cigarettes a day.

Going to need a fucking source for that.

I have an anti source

theguardian.com/science/sifting-the-evidence/2015/oct/26/meat-and-

tobacco-the-difference-between-risk-and-strength-of-evidence

Eliminate the space

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I love it when CE acts like master chiefs and then says it's easy to cook LMAO.

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Just looking at all these food elitists is hilarious. Yall gonna act like your room is heavy with cheetos dust every where. Who you tryna kid?

"Oh yeah I eat the bear minimum nutritions that my body needs. I eat nothing but healthy food and yes I shop for all these fresh groceries like a hippie at a Farmer's Market that sells things for 5x the price Walmart would. Carbs are evil"

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Cooking is simple in theory.

Pre-heating means to get the oven to a temperature before putting the food in. If it is an old oven, let it heat up for like 10 minute. Cut your vegetables in the meanwhile.

- Typically there's a big dial or buttons for oven temperature and 4 dials for your stove. Each should have a black dot to show you which one is front and which is back.

- You probably want a cutting board, knife, wooden spoon, spatula and a ladle. Oh and tongs. Maybe a few different pot sizes.

-A quick tip for chicken. You generally don't need to oil it! Bird is fatty/somewhat oily when it cooks. My method is to season it and wrap it in tinfoil for about 30 minutes at 375 degrees.

-Buy cheese and seasoning! This will mark any vegetables taste you might not love right away.

-You can simply cut vegetables and meat (don't cross contaminate) and fry it up in pan too. Vegetables don't need long otherwise they get mushy but cook beef until it's only a little red instead and chicken until it's completely white.

-Shrimp and other seafood is expensive but really good alternatives if you get bored of beef, eggs and chicken.

-Boiled egg with salt and pepper is a good snack. You simply put eggs in boiling water for 10 minutes, cool them in cold water, peel the shell and enjoy.
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You'll notice all these master chiefs never talk about the worst thing about cooking. Doing the dishes. That's how you know people be lion.

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Bumping this shit for the detailed specs and how much money you'll be saving per serving. Down to every cent.

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I've seen chicken alfredo cooking packages for family at the supermarket for 12 bucks.

Fuck that shit, I went and got some nice breaded chicken cutlets 8 for 4 bucks, then some pasta for 2 bucks, and a jar of alfredo sauce for 3, and that was 9 dollars. I made enough chicken alfredo for 2-3 families. Granted it was easier to just make the alfredo myself (and tastier), sometimes you just gotta cheat because the meal prep packages are usually taking advantage of people who don't know what to do. Which is fine, but you can make chicken alfredo much easier and tastier your own way, I'm sure the package had shitty chicken pieces and shitty watery alfredo. But hey it might teach you the process to go out and make your own.

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full stop, the only way you can "not know how to cook" is if you don't even fucking try

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Bumping this shit for the detailed specs and how much money you'll be saving per serving. Down to every cent.

@Veggeta_MAX

Prices in my state (Florida) are roughly estimated as follows.

McDonalds in my neighborhood:
Double Quarter Pounder $4.79
Medium fries $1.79
Medium soda $1.29

A la carte totals to $7.87, value meal is $6.69

Grocery store:
Organic grass fed 80/20 USDA beef patties $10.99 for 4 patties (or $2.75 for 1 patty)
Brioche bakery bun $2.99 for 4 buns (or $0.75 for 1 bun)
Sargento cheese slices (11ct) $3.69 (or $0.34 per slice of cheese)
Alexia seasoned waffle cut fries (20oz bag) $3.99 for 8 servings (or $1.00 for 2 servings)
A glass of water is free pretty much

Those are the main ingredients, totaling to $21.66 to buy all the ingredients. The actual cost to make 4 meals is $19.36, or $4.84 per meal (because not all the cheese is being used).

You can then add in extra ingredients like salt, pepper, pickles, onions, ketchup, mustard, etc. but those are extremely common items that are standard in any normal kitchen.

In total, you save $1.85 over the McDonalds value meal and $3.03 over the same meal ordered a la carte.
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The grocery store bought beef patties in my example are 6oz each btw. Forgot to edit that in. McDonalds states their quarter pounders are 4oz before being cooked (they roughly become 3oz afterward), but their nutritional profile is garbage compared to high quality beef from grass fed pasture raised cattle.
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knuxnole posted...

2) I'm someone that HATES all vegetables(seriously, can't name one that my tastes bud will like!), is that mandatory?

> hates all veggies
> claims to be emotionally stable

Xenozoa425 posted...

@Veggeta_MAX

Prices in my state (Florida) are roughly estimated as follows.

McDonalds in my neighborhood:
Double Quarter Pounder $4.79
Medium fries $1.79
Medium soda $1.29

A la carte totals to $7.87, value meal is $6.69

Grocery store:
Organic grass fed 80/20 USDA beef patties $10.99 for 4 patties (or $2.75 for 1 patty)
Brioche bakery bun $2.99 for 4 buns (or $0.75 for 1 bun)
Sargento cheese slices (11ct) $3.69 (or $0.34 per slice of cheese)
Alexia seasoned waffle cut fries (20oz bag) $3.99 for 8 servings (or $1.00 for 2 servings)
A glass of water is free pretty much

Those are the main ingredients, totaling to $21.66 to buy all the ingredients. The actual cost to make 4 meals is $19.36, or $4.84 per meal (because not all the cheese is being used).

You can then add in extra ingredients like salt, pepper, pickles, onions, ketchup, mustard, etc. but those are extremely common items that are standard in any normal kitchen.

In total, you save $1.85 over the McDonalds value meal and $3.03 over the same meal ordered a la carte.

This isn't pretentious at all.

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I rarely eat fast/processed food and if I do it's just a small order of french fries after work.
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I couldn't imagine putting shit inside you everyday. Cooking isn't that hard.
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I'd pay more for the convenience of having someone cook me the food. Oh yeah, everything out of a bag is processed food. Everything at your local grocer is processed even if the bag says "not processed".

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Home cooked meals aren't automatically better than eating out as you can make equally or even more fucked up food at home. Fast food isn't all just greasy burgers either.
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VTBM posted...

Home cooked meals aren't automatically better than eating out as you can make equally or even more fucked up food at home. Fast food isn't all just greasy burgers either.

One of the biggest elitism on the internet has always been "I only eat healthy food and I cook everything" people. I dunno why people like to lie so much about this.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

VTBM posted...

Home cooked meals aren't automatically better than eating out as you can make equally or even more fucked up food at home. Fast food isn't all just greasy burgers either.

One of the biggest elitism on the internet has always been "I only eat healthy food and I cook everything" people. I dunno why people like to lie so much about this.

I have to cook all my own food because of my allergies but it is a lot easier to make healthy food when you are controlling what goes into it.

knutjob posted...

it is a lot easier to make healthy food when you are controlling what goes into it

It is but do the people who says they love eating healthy food and cook all their meals like master chiefs actually do it? Naaahhhhh

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

knutjob posted...

it is a lot easier to make healthy food when you are controlling what goes into it

It is but do the people who says they love eating healthy food and cook all their meals like master chiefs actually do it? Naaahhhhh

I do through necessity.

It's not what you eat, it's how much. You know those dudes that are like 6 foot tall and 135 pounds? Hang out with one of them for a day, they barely eat even though it's all fast food.
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For future reference TC is a known troll

None of this is real
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DyingPancake posted...

For future reference TC is a known troll

None of this is real

Even so, I still have to shame fake master cooks on the internet.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

This isn't pretentious at all.

I mean, you DID ask for someone to point it out for you, down to the nearest penny.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

I'd pay more for the convenience of having someone cook me the food. Oh yeah, everything out of a bag is processed food. Everything at your local grocer is processed even if the bag says "not processed".

When you are on a certain diet (vegan, keto, paleo, etc) or have allergies to certain foods, of course it's 100% better to cook at home (like someone already mentioned) because you control what goes into the food. Fast food is notorious for using lower quality and cheaper ingredients to make more money. Problem with those ingredients is how they are processed, hence the "issue" with processed food in general: hidden sugars, cheap GMO fillers like maltodextrin or corn starch, artificial vitamins and iron, and chemical preservatives/additives that can slowly do damage to the body if left unchecked for years.

I'm not a fancy cook or a health nut. I like having food that's made ready to eat, in fact I had a burrito and chips from a Tex-Mex chain last night. But I don't make it a habit to go out and eat at restaurants. If you want to be healthy, it goes deeper than just cooking at home. You have to avoid buying certain foods entirely because of the truth of their nutritional profile and list of ingredients.
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Crisscross posted...

knuxnole posted...

So those foods make up 99.9% of my diet. I don't know how to cook so I never make any homemade meals. My motto is "If it's food, it's food!". The whole point of food is to eat it when you feel hungry. So, if someone only eats fast and processed food for life, is there any negatives?

Foods high in preservatives (what processing does, makes food last for ever, so they can sell it cheaper) do not correctly digest inside your body. The preservatives that protect them from expiring, protect them from being digested in your body.

This is why processed foods make you fat, unhealthy, and dramatically increase your chances of cancer growths.

Fun fact: It is significantly more cancerous to occasionally eat preserved red meats, than it is to smoke a entire pack of cigarettes a day.

I don't think this is true, at all.
Got a source?
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Xenozoa425 posted...

I mean, you DID ask for someone to point it out for you, down to the nearest penny.

Yes, and it was to show how silly and pretentious healthy food people are.


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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Xenozoa425 posted...

I mean, you DID ask for someone to point it out for you, down to the nearest penny.

Yes, and it was to show how silly and pretentious healthy food people are.

I think in a country where the majority is overweight/obese picking on people trying to eat healthily as "silly" is a bit suspect.

Crockpot and google TC. You now know how to cook.
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TC has a gimmick of wanting "casual easy mode" on everything. Don't take this topic seriously.
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This topic is sad
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knutjob posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

VTBM posted...

Home cooked meals aren't automatically better than eating out as you can make equally or even more fucked up food at home. Fast food isn't all just greasy burgers either.

One of the biggest elitism on the internet has always been "I only eat healthy food and I cook everything" people. I dunno why people like to lie so much about this.

I have to cook all my own food because of my allergies but it is a lot easier to make healthy food when you are controlling what goes into it.

Agree, but its easier for someone to eat a meal meant to serve five people and also splurge on other ingredients
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Yes, and it was to show how silly and pretentious healthy food people are.

Nothing silly or pretentious about wanting a damn good home cooked burger instead of an overpriced grease box.

knutjob posted...

I think in a country where the majority is overweight/obese picking on people trying to eat healthily as "silly" is a bit suspect.

That's the issue a lot of people have unfortunately, government/medical/media misinformation over the years has morphed people's perception about what's healthy.

Everyone has the ability to become an informed consumer and learn about proper health and nutrition. You just have to be willing to look, instead of relying on magic pills or gimmicks that don't work.
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Xenozoa425 posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Yes, and it was to show how silly and pretentious healthy food people are.

Nothing silly or pretentious about wanting a damn good home cooked burger instead of an overpriced grease box.

knutjob posted...

I think in a country where the majority is overweight/obese picking on people trying to eat healthily as "silly" is a bit suspect.

That's the issue a lot of people have unfortunately, government/medical/media misinformation over the years has morphed people's perception about what's healthy.

Everyone has the ability to become an informed consumer and learn about proper health and nutrition. You just have to be willing to look, instead of relying on magic pills or gimmicks that don't work.

Agreed. Although tc is a gimmick, he is a caricature of a very real problem.

ArchiePeck posted...

It's maybe a cultural thing, but here I expect schools to prepare children for life, not just academic grades.

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

knutjob posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

VTBM posted...

Home cooked meals aren't automatically better than eating out as you can make equally or even more fucked up food at home. Fast food isn't all just greasy burgers either.

One of the biggest elitism on the internet has always been "I only eat healthy food and I cook everything" people. I dunno why people like to lie so much about this.

I have to cook all my own food because of my allergies but it is a lot easier to make healthy food when you are controlling what goes into it.

Agree, but its easier for someone to eat a meal meant to serve five people and also splurge on other ingredients

Yeah. Having the self discipline to prepare all your own food but not the self discipline to control portion size is a pity.

Xenozoa425 posted...

Nothing silly or pretentious about wanting a damn good home cooked burger instead of an overpriced grease box.

The length and depth you went says otherwise.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

The length and depth you went says otherwise.

It was to prove a point and call you out on your bullshit. You don't need to be Gordon Ramsey to make a decent healthy meal at home. Get over yourself.
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Xenozoa425 posted...

It was to prove a point and call you out on your bullshit. You don't need to be Gordon Ramsey to make a decent healthy meal at home. Get over yourself.

I want an instant beef wellington by gordon ramsey preferbly frozen fresh and lot of seasoninhs

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Imagine taking the troll in this topic seriously

And I'm not referring to TC here
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Xenozoa425 posted...

It was to prove a point and call you out on your bullshit. You don't need to be Gordon Ramsey to make a decent healthy meal at home. Get over yourself.

What bullshit? That healthy eaters aren't fake pretentious people? Because that was my point. And you nailed it by going above and beyond. You're crazy if you think anyone read all that and will follow it to a fucking T and think that's easy and worth doing. I've seen home made Big Macs. They don't look or even taste as good as the ones at the restaurant.

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a burger is literally one of the easiest things you can make and barely constitutes cooking lol
this vegeta max guy must be incredibly lazy. next up, cereal is too much work
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