Current Events > Todd faces human rights violation lawsuit after asking the gender of babysitter.

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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 6:26:44 PM
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A single father in Canada may have violated his province's human rights act by asking about the gender and age of a potential babysitter, according to a lawsuit.

The father, identified only as Todd, is being investigated by the Alberta Human Rights Commission after a complaint was filed against him in 2017 by the applicant, who claims the father violated the Alberta Human Rights Act.

The father, whose boys were 5 and 8 at the time, posted an ad for a babysitter on Kijiji, a popular classified ad site in Canada, because he was planning on meeting a friend for dinner the following night.

Todd received several responses, among them one listing skills such as CPR, and first aid, and mentioning a clean criminal record and seven years of caring for children. When Todd asked for age and gender, the applicant, James Crynowski, responded: "I'm male and 28 years old."

Todd's dinner plans fell through, however, so he stopped corresponding with Crynowski and the other applicants because he no longer needed a babysitter. But Crynowski, instead of following up with Todd, filed a formal complaint with the Alberta Human Rights Commission on Sept. 1, claiming age and gender discrimination.

The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, a Canadian conservative legal advocacy organization specializing in Canadian constitutional law, is representing Todd and sent a letter to the commission Aug. 19 to have the complaint dismissed.

Thwarting parents from even inquiring about a babysitters gender or age is inconsistent with giving utmost deference to parents preferences concerning a babysitter for their children, the letter said. It is also inconsistent with the fact that both gender and age may each be bona fide occupational requirements in this context.

The commission has not dismissed the case, although Crynowski, who filed a similar case against a mother of a five-year-old boy seeking "an older lady with experience," lost a case that went to the Supreme Court of Canada, in which he was seeking more than $1,000 in "damages to dignity."

It is unclear why the Human Rights Commission has now accepted Mr. Cyrynowskis complaint against Todd, giving the precedent set by the test case, John Carpay, Justice Centre president and lawyer, said in a statement.


Full Article: https://www.foxnews.com/world/dad-babysitter-canada-gender-discrimination
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WilliamPorygon
08/23/19 6:30:01 PM
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How can he claim discrimination if nobody got hired though?
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 6:32:30 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
How can he claim discrimination if nobody got hired though?

Simply asking I suppose.

Like how saying "I'll hire you if you're hot and have sex with me" probably will get you in hot water even if you hire no one
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TheVipaGTS
08/23/19 6:34:55 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
How can he claim discrimination if nobody got hired though?
Because discrimination is still discrimination. If I hire no one but say I wont hire you specifically because of your race/gender/whatever thats still discrimination.

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eston
08/23/19 6:35:11 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
How can he claim discrimination if nobody got hired though?

Because he didn't follow up and made an assumption that he hopes will net him a quick $1000

But as an aside, I really don't get parents who are willing to leave their kids with someone they've never met. I have a 7-year-old and the only people who babysit him are people I know personally. I can't imagine just calling up some rando
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Alteres
08/23/19 6:36:33 PM
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I probably wouldn't want some random 40 year old dude looking after my kids, I don't know how pc that is but it would raise some red flags to me...
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StucklnMyPants
08/23/19 6:38:05 PM
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lol what a joke
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specialkid8
08/23/19 6:43:27 PM
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First Fallout 76, now this?
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UnfairRepresent
08/24/19 7:40:29 AM
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Alteres posted...
I probably wouldn't want some random 40 year old dude looking after my kids, I don't know how pc that is but it would raise some red flags to me...

Sounds like a "you" problem to me
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Tryin2GetDaPipe
08/24/19 7:51:04 AM
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eston posted...
WilliamPorygon posted...
How can he claim discrimination if nobody got hired though?

Because he didn't follow up and made an assumption that he hopes will net him a quick $1000

But as an aside, I really don't get parents who are willing to leave their kids with someone they've never met. I have a 7-year-old and the only people who babysit him are people I know personally. I can't imagine just calling up some rando

Are your kids homeschooled? Because if your kids go to public schools then your kids are in the hands of people who you never met.
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MudKip_Master
08/24/19 6:30:28 PM
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Haha wtf
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UnfairRepresent
08/25/19 8:02:16 AM
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Spooking posted...
Oh Canada.

Our home and native land!
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Alucard188
08/25/19 8:05:38 AM
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This little fucking Manchild whining about people discriminating against him. You're 28 years old - go fuck something.

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Ic3Bullet
08/25/19 8:07:17 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Canada
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Error1355
08/25/19 8:08:30 AM
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God damn it todd!

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MuayThai85
08/25/19 8:11:19 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
This little fucking Manchild whining about people discriminating against him. You're 28 years old - go fuck something.


He probably wanted to fuck the kids.
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Fam_Fam
08/25/19 8:23:10 AM
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imo you should be able to be selective on who watches your kids, and use whatever criteria you want.

watching someones children isn't an equal opportunity kind of thing. you should be able to discriminate in whatever way you want to get the right person.
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UnfairRepresent
08/25/19 8:27:22 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
imo you should be able to be selective on who watches your kids, and use whatever criteria you want.

watching someones children isn't an equal opportunity kind of thing. you should be able to discriminate in whatever way you want to get the right person.

So for the record if a racist said "I don't want any blacks going near my kids!"

You're totally okay with that?

That would be reasonable to put on an ad?
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Fam_Fam
08/25/19 8:31:03 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
imo you should be able to be selective on who watches your kids, and use whatever criteria you want.

watching someones children isn't an equal opportunity kind of thing. you should be able to discriminate in whatever way you want to get the right person.

So for the record if a racist said "I don't want any blacks going near my kids!"

You're totally okay with that?

That would be reasonable to put on an ad?


no, you shouldn't not want any blacks going near your kids. and it's not appropriate to post something like that on an ad.

however, you should be able to interview people you like and make the decision that you feel is best for your family. I think you should have your applications open to everyone, and then decide from there.

how the person looks (and acts) invariably will affect your choice, regardless of what's on their resume. and that's totally fine.
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UnfairRepresent
08/25/19 8:32:01 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...


no, you shouldn't not want any blacks going near your kids. and it's not appropriate to post something like that on an ad.

however, you should be able to interview people you like and make the decision that you feel is best for your family. I think you should have your applications open to everyone, and then decide from there.

SO it's wrong to put out the ad, but its acceptable to reject people based on race after leading them on?

Okie dokie.
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Fam_Fam
08/25/19 8:33:07 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Fam_Fam posted...


no, you shouldn't not want any blacks going near your kids. and it's not appropriate to post something like that on an ad.

however, you should be able to interview people you like and make the decision that you feel is best for your family. I think you should have your applications open to everyone, and then decide from there.

SO it's wrong to put out the ad, but its acceptable to reject people based on race after leading them on?

Okie dokie.


I think gender is a reasonable thing to both care about and ask someone. and that's a reasonable thing to factor in when making your selection.

I also think posting "I don't want blacks near my kids" is inappropriate.

do you disagree?
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The Admiral
08/25/19 8:40:58 AM
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What a ridiculous filing.

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Lyrica
08/25/19 8:56:57 AM
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It's obvious this guy is just trying to use a flawed system to make money.
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gamer167
08/25/19 9:06:57 AM
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Canada? More like Canlol
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/25/19 9:09:27 AM
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Did anyone else think of BoJack Horseman? Is anyone still thinking of BoJack Horseman?
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UnfairRepresent
08/26/19 10:53:06 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Is anyone still thinking of BoJack Horseman?

No
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Prestoff
08/26/19 11:00:53 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Did anyone else think of BoJack Horseman? Is anyone still thinking of BoJack Horseman?


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Hanky_Bannister
08/26/19 11:02:34 AM
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Claimant is a scumbag
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RescueBC
08/28/19 6:44:44 AM
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I mean I live in the US, but gender is a question thats on literally every job application Ive ever filled out.
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gunplagirl
08/28/19 6:56:00 AM
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If the prospect of hiring him diminished on the basis of his sex or age, then yeah the guy suing was discriminated against, as per the law.
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HollowKnail
08/28/19 6:57:19 AM
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slippery slope doesn't exist?!?!
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Malfunction
08/28/19 6:58:22 AM
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Lol feel like a lot of people came into this topic about to get mad about somebody being transgender or something only to find it had nothing to do with that
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gunplagirl
08/28/19 6:59:31 AM
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Malfunction posted...
Lol feel like a lot of people came into this topic about to get mad about somebody being transgender or something only to find it had nothing to do with that

Like they search for the word "gender" or something, would explain why they're in every topic with it in the title
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UnfairRepresent
08/28/19 7:48:34 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Malfunction posted...
Lol feel like a lot of people came into this topic about to get mad about somebody being transgender or something only to find it had nothing to do with that

Like they search for the word "gender" or something, would explain why they're in every topic with it in the title

erm
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Ilishe
08/28/19 7:52:17 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Alteres posted...
I probably wouldn't want some random 40 year old dude looking after my kids, I don't know how pc that is but it would raise some red flags to me...

Sounds like a "you" problem to me


Sounds perfectly valid to me. I would never leave my child with a stranger regardless of their age and gender though.
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UnfairRepresent
08/28/19 8:03:08 AM
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Ilishe posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Alteres posted...
I probably wouldn't want some random 40 year old dude looking after my kids, I don't know how pc that is but it would raise some red flags to me...

Sounds like a "you" problem to me


Sounds perfectly valid to me. I would never leave my child with a stranger regardless of their age and gender though.

"Men can't look after kids " is sexism and wrong
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MrPeppers
08/28/19 8:10:56 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"Men can't look after kids " is sexism and wrong


You have no clue what the defendants reasoning was. And it actually sounds like it was because dinner plans fell through so its extremely inappropriate to be making that statement.

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UnfairRepresent
08/28/19 5:27:19 PM
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MrPeppers posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
"Men can't look after kids " is sexism and wrong


You have no clue what the defendants reasoning was. And it actually sounds like it was because dinner plans fell through so its extremely inappropriate to be making that statement.

Why did you remove all the context from a statement, pretend it was about something else and then whine about it?

The guy was saying he wouldn't trust a man to look after his kids
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/28/19 5:31:54 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
he was seeking more than $1,000 in "damages to dignity.


Gonna file a case against him for makin' himself look like a bitch

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Duncanwii
08/31/19 8:22:39 AM
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So is no one else going to notice the wildly trans/homophobic assumption in post 18?
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ThePrinceFish
08/31/19 4:06:38 PM
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Joke country made of spineless Europeans-lite.
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