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refmon 08/22/19 1:50:04 AM #1:	What year is this and how can you seriously not separate the character from the person? --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:926389247] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>What year is this and how can you seriously not separate the character from the person?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 08/22/19 1:51:55 AM #2:	wasn't he also a pedophile? or was that the dalai lama <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:926389291] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>wasn't he also a pedophile? or was that the dalai lama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesker002 08/22/19 1:58:35 AM #3:	He also had an enema fetish. --- Detroit Lions 0-0 Keep calm and Kerryon https://imgur.com/EhXehEc <cite>Awesker002 posted [p:926389440] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>He also had an enema fetish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 08/22/19 2:00:54 AM #4:	Wasn't he a kid with a shaved head and fake mustache? --- Name checks out https://i.imgtc.ws/vBF8odT.png <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:926389487] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't he a kid with a shaved head and fake mustache?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hardy3786 08/22/19 2:00:56 AM #5:	And foot fetish <cite>hardy3786 posted [p:926389489] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>And foot fetish </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 08/22/19 2:03:23 AM #6:	That's just what happens when you lionize historical figures without reading about them. Especially politicians. --- Mr. Bruckman, there are hits, and there are misses...and there are misses. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:926389548] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>That's just what happens when you lionize historical figures without reading about them. Especially politicians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 08/22/19 2:04:55 AM #7:	He was a real piece of shit that had his own corner in hell --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:926389591] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>He was a real piece of shit that had his own corner in hell </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 08/22/19 2:15:10 AM #8:	Without Gandhi we would have never got Mandela, MLK, and thus Obama. It doesn't matter if he was "racist." His positive actions and words as an older man changed the world for the better. Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians). --- "Death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:926389804] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Without Gandhi we would have never got Mandela, MLK, and thus Obama. It doesn't matter if he was "racist." His positive actions and words as an older man changed the world for the better. Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/22/19 2:18:31 AM #9:	"Let's ignore all the good people do and remember them only for their flaws" --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:926389874] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>"Let's ignore all the good people do and remember them only for their flaws"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 08/22/19 2:22:12 AM #10:	Vita_Aeterna posted... Without Gandhi we would have never got Mandela, MLK, and thus Obama. Didn't Mandela do some questionable shit <cite>coh posted [p:926389960] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted... </cite> <quote>Without Gandhi we would have never got Mandela, MLK, and thus Obama.</quote> Didn't Mandela do some questionable shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 08/22/19 3:01:09 AM #11:	It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:926390774] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
user-2 08/22/19 3:04:36 AM #12:	People can change. He used to be a racist but when he encountered racism himself, he opened his eyes and became a changed man. "The Man Who Views the World at 50 the Same as He Did at 20 Has Wasted 30 Years of His Life." No one is perfect <cite>user-2 posted [p:926390844] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>People can change. He used to be a racist but when he encountered racism himself, he opened his eyes and became a changed man. "The Man Who Views the World at 50 the Same as He Did at 20 Has Wasted 30 Years of His Life." No one is perfect</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
user-2 08/22/19 3:05:27 AM #13:	Vita_Aeterna posted... Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians). I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do? <cite>user-2 posted [p:926390863] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians).</quote> I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 08/22/19 3:07:49 AM #14:	Sphyx posted... It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards. Sometimes not even today's people... <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:926390914] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards.</quote> Sometimes not even today's people...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 08/22/19 3:53:09 AM #15:	user-2 posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians). I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do? He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved. --- "Death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:926391603] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>user-2 posted...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians).</quote> I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do?</quote> He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 08/22/19 6:37:01 AM #16:	Civilization has been trying to tell us the entire time, but everyone thought it was a joke. A glitch to make him so cruel --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:926393878] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Civilization has been trying to tell us the entire time, but everyone thought it was a joke. A glitch to make him so cruel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScionTC_07 08/22/19 11:24:52 AM #17:	please.... as if any politician or public figure is perfect --- Reppin Daly City 650 breeeeh! Not changing this sig till I get a ghetto Asian gf (5-25-13) <cite>ScionTC_07 posted [p:926401225] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>please.... as if any politician or public figure is perfect</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 08/22/19 11:32:04 AM #18:	Gandhi has nukes. --- "Imagine a world where hypothetical situations didn't exist..." <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:926401542] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Gandhi has nukes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/22/19 11:33:42 AM #19:	Vita_Aeterna posted... user-2 posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians). I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do? He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved. Ehh this is not exactly settled history to my understanding --- https://i.imgtc.com/e2dtpfR.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/oVB3sDe.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:926401599] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>user-2 posted...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians).</quote> I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do?</quote> He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved.</quote> Ehh this is not exactly settled history to my understanding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/22/19 11:34:05 AM #20:	"The man inspired political movements that improved the lives of hundreds of millions of people, but let's dismiss that because he isn't woke by 2019 standards." - Some Millennials --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:926401610] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>"The man inspired political movements that improved the lives of hundreds of millions of people, but let's dismiss that because he isn't woke by 2019 standards." - Some Millennials </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilliamPorygon 08/22/19 11:39:49 AM #22:	Solid Sonic posted... Gandhi has nukes. Thanks Civilization --- https://imgtc.com/i/XW7Qado.png https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:926401811] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Gandhi has nukes.</quote> Thanks Civilization</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Distant_Rainbow 08/22/19 11:40:22 AM #23:	Solid Sonic posted... Gandhi has nukes. He's actually pretty darn reasonable in Civ V. Though from what I've heard about him in Civ VI, he's now apparently an asshole who's impossible to be friendly with, and someone who you should just prioritize killing off ASAP to relieve yourself of future headaches. --- Link meets Fire Emblem in CYOA: Tales of Elibe! Come read, and find out what happens! Click below! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/468480-fire-emblem/77111212 <cite>Distant_Rainbow posted [p:926401830] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Gandhi has nukes.</quote> He's actually pretty darn reasonable in Civ V. Though from what I've heard about him in Civ VI, he's now apparently an asshole who's impossible to be friendly with, and someone who you should just prioritize killing off ASAP to relieve yourself of future headaches.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 08/22/19 11:40:58 AM #24:	Sphyx posted... It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards. Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:926401854] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to judge people from the past by today's standards.</quote> Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 08/22/19 11:40:59 AM #25:	Doe posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... user-2 posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians). I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do? He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved. Ehh this is not exactly settled history to my understanding It's true, and he wanted to send them back to Africa as well. Read up on it. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:926401856] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>user-2 posted...</cite> <quote>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>Abraham Lincoln was a racist, yet his actions positively changed the future of the United States for the better. And most of us love him. Including academics (historians).</quote> I never thought Lincoln was a racist. What did he do?</quote> He didn't think African-Americans were equal to White Americans, but he also didn't agree that they should be enslaved.</quote> Ehh this is not exactly settled history to my understanding</quote> It's true, and he wanted to send them back to Africa as well. Read up on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/22/19 11:42:37 AM #26:	Intro2Logic posted... Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair. Ghandi's views towards race in the 1940s were more progressive than Indian views in 2019. It is still socially acceptable in India to judge people based on darkness of skin, and Indian TVs are constantly (and I do mean constantly) running ads for products that lighten skin color. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:926401916] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair.</quote> Ghandi's views towards race in the 1940s were more progressive than Indian views in 2019. It is still socially acceptable in India to judge people based on darkness of skin, and Indian TVs are constantly (and I do mean constantly) running ads for products that lighten skin color. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/22/19 11:43:57 AM #27:	Wasn't he also the first furry? --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. "Don't call me a God, call me a Sadist" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:926401966] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't he also the first furry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 08/22/19 11:54:06 AM #28:	Gandhi has ADD --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:926402333] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>Gandhi has ADD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/22/19 11:58:11 AM #29:	The Admiral posted... Intro2Logic posted... Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair. Ghandi's views towards race in the 1940s were more progressive than Indian views in 2019. It is still socially acceptable in India to judge people based on darkness of skin, and Indian TVs are constantly (and I do mean constantly) running ads for products that lighten skin color. It's always interesting to me in these discussions who gets treated as "the default" or the standard-bearers of their time. This comes up a lot of course in discussions of civil war figures. To say that Nathan Bedford Forrest was a product of his time is to ignore that black people were of that time too. John Brown and Frederick Douglass were of that time. Likewise, without knowing as much about the Indian context, I feel comfortable in saying that there are black people now and were black people then who rejected such attitudes about Africans/black/dark skinned people. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:926402466] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>Being a racist was deeply shitty in the 1940s, to be fair.</quote> Ghandi's views towards race in the 1940s were more progressive than Indian views in 2019. It is still socially acceptable in India to judge people based on darkness of skin, and Indian TVs are constantly (and I do mean constantly) running ads for products that lighten skin color. </quote> It's always interesting to me in these discussions who gets treated as "the default" or the standard-bearers of their time. This comes up a lot of course in discussions of civil war figures. To say that Nathan Bedford Forrest was a product of his time is to ignore that black people were of that time too. John Brown and Frederick Douglass were of that time. Likewise, without knowing as much about the Indian context, I feel comfortable in saying that there are black people now and were black people then who rejected such attitudes about Africans/black/dark skinned people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 08/22/19 12:02:30 PM #30:	user-2 posted... People can change. He used to be a racist but when he encountered racism himself, he opened his eyes and became a changed man. "The Man Who Views the World at 50 the Same as He Did at 20 Has Wasted 30 Years of His Life." No one is perfect Yet all people care about is perfection. Stories of so many people getting fired for saying stupid stuff when they were younger. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:926402615] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>user-2 posted...</cite> <quote>People can change. He used to be a racist but when he encountered racism himself, he opened his eyes and became a changed man. "The Man Who Views the World at 50 the Same as He Did at 20 Has Wasted 30 Years of His Life." No one is perfect</quote> Yet all people care about is perfection. Stories of so many people getting fired for saying stupid stuff when they were younger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 08/22/19 12:04:00 PM #31:	gandhi is #cancelled --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:926402674] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>gandhi is #cancelled</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/22/19 12:14:08 PM #33:	fenderbender321 posted... It's concerning how we keep going further in this direction, focusing on only the negatives. Leftist cancel culture. People who did nothing to improve this planet get to feel righteous by smearing those who actually did. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:926403036] in Is Gandhi ... [t:77955951]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted... </cite> <quote>It's concerning how we keep going further in this direction, focusing on only the negatives.</quote> Leftist cancel culture. People who did nothing to improve this planet get to feel righteous by smearing those who actually did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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