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brestugo
08/16/19 8:44:28 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/15/portland-oregon-far-right-rally

Portland is preparing for a large far-right rally on Saturday that may be the largest in a series of demonstrations that have descended on the city in the Trump era.

Police in the Oregon city are fearful of an outbreak of violence at the End Domestic Terrorism rally, which is targeted at Portlands antifascist groups, who in recent years have clashed with rightwing activists in running street battles.

The protest has been promoted primarily by Floridian Joe Biggs, a member of the rightwing Proud Boys organization. Biggs is a combat veteran and a former employee of the conspiracy broadcaster Alex Joness Infowars network. He claims that up to 1,000 people from around the country will attend Saturdays unpermitted event on the citys waterfront.

In promoting the rally on social media, Biggs has brandished a Trump-themed baseball bat, appeared in videos wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan Training to Throw Communists Out of Helicopters a reference to the Chilean Pinochet regimes methods for executing dissidents and has taunted antifascists, saying Youre not gonna feel safe when you go out in public and Im gonna stomp your ass into the ground, Antifa.

In more recent days, Biggs has urged supporters to tone down their rhetoric after notifying them on Facebook that he had received a visit from the FBI.

Other rightwing groups have also said they are attending, or have been mentioned by Biggs and others, including patriot movement groups like the Three Percenters and the Oathkeepers, who often openly carry firearms at public events, and American Guard, who the Anti-Defamation League describe as hardcore white supremacists.

Rightwing groups have framed the event as a response to an incident during the last rightwing rally in the city, on 29 June, in which the conservative writer Andy Ngo had milkshakes thrown at him and was punched by several masked protesters. Ngo was briefly hospitalized.

The background to the latest potential confrontation is a long string of violent rallies since 2017 in which rightwing organizers, often living outside the city, have brought in activists and supporters to square off against leftwing counter-protesters.

Several anti-fascist groups have made calls for people to attend a counter-protest to the rally, including the protest group PopMob, which is promising a poop emoji costume parade and a brass band. Elsewhere, Rose City Antifa , one of the longest-standing anti-fascist groups in the country, made a call on its website for the community to defend itself.

The FBI and the Oregon State Police have said they will assist local city police with enforcement on Saturday, and Mayor Wheeler has suggested he may ask the state governor to call out the National Guard.

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/16/19 8:45:17 PM
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brestugo posted...

In promoting the rally on social media, Biggs has brandished a Trump-themed baseball bat, appeared in videos wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan Training to Throw Communists Out of Helicopters a reference to the Chilean Pinochet regimes methods for executing dissidents and has taunted antifascists, saying Youre not gonna feel safe when you go out in public and Im gonna stomp your ass into the ground, Antifa.

So why isn't this man behind bars?
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 8:46:55 PM
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Yeah, it's going to be crazy here. I might go downtown and take pictures

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brestugo
08/16/19 8:48:12 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Yeah, it's going to be crazy here. I might go downtown and take pictures

stay safe
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Paper_Okami
08/16/19 8:49:10 PM
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they're gonna try and make it another Charlottesville

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Smashingpmkns
08/16/19 8:49:22 PM
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Wonder what flavor milkshake Joe Biggs prefers
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Cornmuffins
08/16/19 8:50:45 PM
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Hopefully no one dies this time
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foxhound101
08/16/19 8:51:27 PM
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I'm visiting Portland for the first time this weekend. Hopefully by Sunday they are done with their shenanigans. V_V
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brestugo
08/16/19 8:52:48 PM
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foxhound101 posted...
I'm visiting Portland for the first time this weekend. Hopefully by Sunday they are done with their shenanigans. V_V

Supposedly the rally is just Saturday.
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IMNOTRAGED
08/16/19 8:53:21 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Wonder what flavor milkshake Joe Biggs prefers

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Southernfatman
08/16/19 8:55:23 PM
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Imagine being this person. Like being so warped and stupid and never growing out of a frat boy mentality. Imagine pledging such loyalty to some corrupt businessman who is screwing the country for his and other's personal gain and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Imagine being a troll in real life.
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EliteC
08/16/19 8:57:56 PM
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brestugo posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/15/portland-oregon-far-right-rally

Portland is preparing for a large far-right rally on Saturday that may be the largest in a series of demonstrations that have descended on the city in the Trump era.

Police in the Oregon city are fearful of an outbreak of violence at the End Domestic Terrorism rally, which is targeted at Portlands antifascist groups, who in recent years have clashed with rightwing activists in running street battles.

The protest has been promoted primarily by Floridian Joe Biggs, a member of the rightwing Proud Boys organization. Biggs is a combat veteran and a former employee of the conspiracy broadcaster Alex Joness Infowars network. He claims that up to 1,000 people from around the country will attend Saturdays unpermitted event on the citys waterfront.

In promoting the rally on social media, Biggs has brandished a Trump-themed baseball bat, appeared in videos wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan Training to Throw Communists Out of Helicopters a reference to the Chilean Pinochet regimes methods for executing dissidents and has taunted antifascists, saying Youre not gonna feel safe when you go out in public and Im gonna stomp your ass into the ground, Antifa.

In more recent days, Biggs has urged supporters to tone down their rhetoric after notifying them on Facebook that he had received a visit from the FBI.

Other rightwing groups have also said they are attending, or have been mentioned by Biggs and others, including patriot movement groups like the Three Percenters and the Oathkeepers, who often openly carry firearms at public events, and American Guard, who the Anti-Defamation League describe as hardcore white supremacists.

Rightwing groups have framed the event as a response to an incident during the last rightwing rally in the city, on 29 June, in which the conservative writer Andy Ngo had milkshakes thrown at him and was punched by several masked protesters. Ngo was briefly hospitalized.

The background to the latest potential confrontation is a long string of violent rallies since 2017 in which rightwing organizers, often living outside the city, have brought in activists and supporters to square off against leftwing counter-protesters.

Several anti-fascist groups have made calls for people to attend a counter-protest to the rally, including the protest group PopMob, which is promising a poop emoji costume parade and a brass band. Elsewhere, Rose City Antifa , one of the longest-standing anti-fascist groups in the country, made a call on its website for the community to defend itself.

The FBI and the Oregon State Police have said they will assist local city police with enforcement on Saturday, and Mayor Wheeler has suggested he may ask the state governor to call out the National Guard.


Translation: the fbi and Oregon state pd have said they will assist the local PD to protect the very fine people and send as many anti-racism counter protesters to jail as possible
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brestugo
08/16/19 9:01:57 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Imagine being this person. Like being so warped and stupid and never growing out of a frat boy mentality. Imagine pledging such loyalty to some corrupt businessman who is screwing the country for his and other's personal gain and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Imagine being a troll in real life.


It seems like the guy is just spoiling for a fight. Sure he's got a 1st amendment right to hold a rally, but scheduling it in Portland on what will likely be a hot summer day? That's asking for trouble in my view.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/16/19 9:02:52 PM
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Can someone really tell me since I'm from the US. Why isn't he in cuffs for threatening people with intent to beat them up
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:03:27 PM
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EliteC posted...
Translation: the fbi and Oregon state pd have said they will assist the local PD to protect the very fine people and send as many anti-racism counter protesters to jail as possible


Well I see this shit happen in Portland all the time, and it's usualy is the Left people hurting others with rocks and a pepper spray. I don't usually see the Proud Boys hurting others, at least in real life. Of course it happens

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-Cipher-
08/16/19 9:03:34 PM
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Because the far left hasn't done enough damage to that city yet?
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TheGleamEyes
08/16/19 9:03:47 PM
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EliteC posted...


Translation: the fbi and Oregon state pd have said they will assist the local PD to protect the very fine people and send as many anti-racism counter protesters to jail as possible


Fair, considering the local PD watched but did nothing while those "anti-racist counter protestors" assaulted an individual.
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:04:22 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Can someone really tell me since I'm from the US. Why isn't he in cuffs for threatening people with intent to beat them up


Antifa tends to be pretty violent, so he's saying he's going to protect himself. Not any more different then saying you'll shoot someone that tries to hurt you.

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closetjpopfan
08/16/19 9:04:41 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
brestugo posted...

In promoting the rally on social media, Biggs has brandished a Trump-themed baseball bat, appeared in videos wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan Training to Throw Communists Out of Helicopters a reference to the Chilean Pinochet regimes methods for executing dissidents and has taunted antifascists, saying Youre not gonna feel safe when you go out in public and Im gonna stomp your ass into the ground, Antifa.

So why isn't this man behind bars?

Mmhmm, that's my quote and sentiment, too. I mean that's any sane person's sentiment, this guy is one well placed nudge away from the next mass shooting.

EDIT: Heck, he's already scheduled it. The question is why isn't this guy being put behind bars RIGHT NOW.
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tullock
08/16/19 9:05:30 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Can someone really tell me since I'm from the US. Why isn't he in cuffs for threatening people with intent to beat them up


Antifa tends to be pretty violent, so he's saying he's going to protect himself. Not any more different then saying you'll shoot someone that tries to hurt you.


These right-wingers are ahead in terms of a body count though
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creativerealms
08/16/19 9:07:22 PM
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-Cipher- posted...
Because the far left hasn't done enough damage to that city yet?

The far right are the ones loudly making threats.
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creativerealms
08/16/19 9:08:31 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Can someone really tell me since I'm from the US. Why isn't he in cuffs for threatening people with intent to beat them up


Antifa tends to be pretty violent, so he's saying he's going to protect himself. Not any more different then saying you'll shoot someone that tries to hurt you.

Doesn't sound like he will wait to defend himself. Sounds like he plans to strike first.
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TheGleamEyes
08/16/19 9:09:19 PM
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creativerealms posted...
-Cipher- posted...
Because the far left hasn't done enough damage to that city yet?

The far right are the ones loudly making threats.


That wasn't a threat.
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tullock
08/16/19 9:11:29 PM
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TheGleamEyes posted...
creativerealms posted...
-Cipher- posted...
Because the far left hasn't done enough damage to that city yet?

The far right are the ones loudly making threats.


That wasn't a threat.


Telling people they won't feel safe when they're in public sure is a threat. But you're being intellectually bankrupt with your trolling so carry on.
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:11:58 PM
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tullock posted...
These right-wingers are ahead in terms of a body count though


I don't agree with them. I always say saying why it wasn't against the law. It wasn't a "threat" it was a "warning"

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gunplagirl
08/16/19 9:12:04 PM
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Proud boys is a gang
Patriot prayer is full of white nationalists
Members of the PPB are complicit in protecting both groups, including feeding info to help members avoid arrest and even withheld info about finding an releasing people who had guns on a rooftop

Antifa are the only good guys in this situation
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:14:02 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Antifa are the only good guys in this situation


No, they're not. None of these people are good. Not the Boys and not Antifa. They're both fucking dogs that need to go away forever

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kayoticdreamz
08/16/19 9:23:27 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3ANBq-VYAAHucK.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBOKnAUW4AE4g2x.jpg

This ain't a white man problem guys as much as liberals want it to be
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Cornmuffins
08/16/19 9:25:20 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
liberals

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TheGleamEyes
08/16/19 9:30:32 PM
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tullock posted...

Telling people they won't feel safe when they're in public sure is a threat. But you're being intellectually bankrupt with your trolling so carry on.


By people, you mean Antifa.
And no, it's not a threat. If it was, so would any calls for violence against "Nazi's" (liberal code for conservatives/anyone on the right)
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/16/19 9:32:23 PM
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He is literally saying "you're not gonna feel safe when you go out in public" and "I'll stomp your ass into the group".

That's intent to harm innocent people. It's an attempt to assault.
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tullock
08/16/19 9:34:05 PM
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TheGleamEyes posted...
tullock posted...

Telling people they won't feel safe when they're in public sure is a threat. But you're being intellectually bankrupt with your trolling so carry on.


By people, you mean Antifa.
And no, it's not a threat. If it was, so would any calls for violence against "Nazi's" (liberal code for conservatives/anyone on the right)


Uh, calls for violence against people is a threat regardless of political affiliation.
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TheGleamEyes
08/16/19 9:37:28 PM
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tullock posted...


Uh, calls for violence against people is a threat regardless of political affiliation.


Is this a threat?

mario2000 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Saying a word like Nazi should not be a hate crime.

However, the fact that a large amount of people think you can 100% justified walk up and punch someone labeled a Nazi in the face adds nuance to this.


Agreed.

You should punch Nazis in the back of the head, around the area where the skull connects to the spinal cord.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77943111#qp
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tullock
08/16/19 9:41:46 PM
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TheGleamEyes posted...
tullock posted...


Uh, calls for violence against people is a threat regardless of political affiliation.


Is this a threat?

mario2000 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Saying a word like Nazi should not be a hate crime.

However, the fact that a large amount of people think you can 100% justified walk up and punch someone labeled a Nazi in the face adds nuance to this.


Agreed.

You should punch Nazis in the back of the head, around the area where the skull connects to the spinal cord.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77943111#qp


Well that's calling for violence so I guess that makes it a threat/assault and then battery if it gets carried out.
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dave_is_slick
08/16/19 9:45:47 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I don't agree with them. I always say saying why it wasn't against the law. It wasn't a "threat" it was a "warning"
How is that any different?

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Cornmuffins
08/16/19 9:48:16 PM
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TheGleamEyes
"Nazi's"


Is English your first language?

Sorry tullock the new quoting system is wonky
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:49:08 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
How is that any different?


Ask the police or the people that make up the laws. Why are a lot of rap bars about killing people not against the law?

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dave_is_slick
08/16/19 9:50:23 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Why are a lot of rap bars about killing people not against the law?
...The fact you went to rap first is very suspect.

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Cornmuffins
08/16/19 9:50:41 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
How is that any different?


Ask the police or the people that make up the laws. Why are a lot of rap bars about killing people not against the law?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroristic_threat
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 9:51:35 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
...The fact you went to rap first is very suspect.


Because that's what I listen to

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tullock
08/16/19 9:52:00 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
tullock posted...
"Nazi's"


Is English your first language?


was this meant for TheGleamEyes?
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Cornmuffins
08/16/19 9:54:02 PM
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Yes, edited when I noticed. Apologies.
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Disengaged
08/16/19 9:54:22 PM
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Man, neo nazis sure do love traveling to Portland to get their assss kicked and humiliated.

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tullock
08/16/19 9:55:15 PM
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ah gotcha np. yeah the new quoting can be a bit off it seems
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hockeybub89
08/16/19 9:57:07 PM
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The by far largest source of domestic terrorism running a rally to end domestic terrorism?

Projection much?
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Evening_Dragon
08/16/19 9:58:25 PM
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Remind me which side has all the murders and manslaughter charges?
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EliteC
08/16/19 10:00:07 PM
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Disengaged posted...
Man, neo nazis sure do love traveling to Portland to get their assss kicked and humiliated.


The cops will defend us better this time!
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hockeybub89
08/16/19 10:03:00 PM
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brestugo posted...
Saturdays unpermitted event on the citys waterfront.

Surely the usual suspects won't defend this. Protesting without a permit? I heard that's what Antifa does.
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/19 10:04:53 PM
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EliteC posted...
The cops will defend us better this time!


Do you think it's a good thing that they get their asses kicked here for expression their right to protest/speak? I've seen just normal [Downtown because they fucking live there] people getting attacked by Antifa when they were just trying to get home

Antifa's actions are dog shit, and the Proud Boys opinions are dog shit. Zero good people

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Hanky_Bannister
08/16/19 10:05:55 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
EliteC posted...
The cops will defend us better this time!


Do you think it's a good thing that they get their asses kicked here for expression their right to protest/speak? I've seen just normal [Downtown because they fucking live there] people getting attacked by Antifa when they were just trying to get home

Antifa's actions are dog shit, and the Proud Boys opinions are dog shit. Zero good people

so let em destroy eachother
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