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Apocalyptic
08/13/19 9:14:59 PM
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Words cannot even begin to describe my sheer astonishment at what I just played. To give you a mere glimpse of my feelings, I am currently typing this with one hand while the other hand is still clutching the controller as if it were a newborn baby. I am appalled.

The "story" in this game is nonsensical rubbish. It's writing is an insult to all writing. How could anyone think it's a sound idea to load all of the major story beats towards the end of the journey? For a majority of the game, it's "Alright Sora, go to these worlds and get stronger!"... Okay? Is that really the excuse to go to all these worlds? I miss the days of Kingdom Hearts 1 when it was an assembly of Disney villains gathered together scheming their little schemes. I cannot possibly become invested in this "everyone is half-Xehanort" plotline. Try and describe this to the average person. I bet my only dollar you would be laughed into oblivion.

The worlds are all over the place. The development team clearly did not make a valid attempt with Twilight Town. We, the player, was finally given the opportunity to travel to Mount Olympus itself but it ended in a slightly above average boss fight. This entire game was filled with mediocre boss fights. Tangled was fine but it didn't leave an impact. It was just there. Toy Story? Missed opportunity. The setting itself was great but the development team really should have went for a boss fight with Zurg instead of making it a generic Heartless. People have dreamed about that since KH2 days.

Monsters Inc. was fine but once again, it ended with a generic boss. Frozen is one of the worst worlds in the series. That is all I have to say about it. Even thinking about it sends chills down my spine. San Fransokyo I actually enjoyed quite a bit despite it feeling a but unfinished. I took advantage of the camera feature or what have you. Took many screenshots of Go Go and her impeccable shaped ass. Lads, if she existed in real life, I would lay a pounding that would make the Devil himself look away. God damn

Pirates looked nice. I can appreciate what the development team attempted to do with this world. Travesty that Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden did not actually come back. Complete and utter travesty. Do I want to talk about that gameplay? Not really other than prepare to spam magic and links. God help you if Critical mode is enabled. Enjoy being one shotted from attacks you cannot see.

Music was a huge disappointment as well. Barely any new memorable tracks and we received nothing on the level of Simple and Clean or Passion. Voice acting was fine except for Donald Duck. Sir, I would like to request a sizable YIKES right there. God bless that man.

Most likely have I missed many details in this post but honestly, who the fuck cares? Nomura and the development team obviously did not. Going to spank it to Go Go now. Catch you amazing people later :)
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Squall28
08/13/19 9:16:10 PM
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Square Enix isn't the company it was. Nothing from them after the PS2 era have been good.

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Jiek_Fafn
08/13/19 9:26:05 PM
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While your criticisms are valid, the series has been more mediocre than good for most of the games. The plot went off the rails years ago. If you're still playing the games and not enjoying them then you haven't been paying attention to what they have been for quite awhile.
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Duncanwii
08/13/19 9:28:18 PM
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Kingdom Heart's story makes perfect sense if you played all the games (including side games like Coded and 1.8) got all the secret reports and saw all the secret movies. If you didnt do all that I dont know what to tell you.
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slmcknett
08/14/19 7:52:52 AM
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Yeah, KH3 was a pile of shit.

The story's never been fantastic, but it was still enjoyable up until DDD, imo, and the writers still knew how to create character arcs and instill even a semblance of agency. KH3 just didn't even try. It was an insult. Shit just happens for 20 hours, and then you're done.

Not to mention all the incessant sequel baiting.
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The_Freecs
08/14/19 8:02:35 AM
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The biggest issue is the shitty floaty combat.
Why can't they just reuse Kingdom Hearts 2's physics and mechanics and just build on it.
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pegusus123456
08/14/19 8:02:43 AM
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Apocalyptic posted...
The "story" in this game is nonsensical rubbish. It's writing is an insult to all writing. How could anyone think it's a sound idea to load all of the major story beats towards the end of the journey? For a majority of the game, it's "Alright Sora, go to these worlds and get stronger!"... Okay? Is that really the excuse to go to all these worlds? I miss the days of Kingdom Hearts 1 when it was an assembly of Disney villains gathered together scheming their little schemes

FWIW, the plot of KH2 was also just you wandering around. Their were two justifications for visiting worlds in that game: to try and find Riku and Mickey and - after the rough halfway point - to see if the Organization was messing with shit.
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BlueBoy675
08/14/19 8:06:06 AM
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The soundtrack was definitely a huge step down. The fact that almost half of it is reused tracks from KH2 kinda says it all

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slmcknett
08/14/19 8:06:57 AM
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^And either of those two justifications were better than "finding the power of waking," which ultimately was irrelevant to every world you go to.

They clearly just had no idea what to do with Sora in this game. They could barely come up with an arc for him.
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pegusus123456
08/14/19 8:07:35 AM
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slmcknett posted...
^and either of those two justifications were better than "finding the power of waking," which ultimately was irrelevant to every world you go to.

Ah, fair enough.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/14/19 8:17:44 AM
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Apocalyptic posted...
Took many screenshots of Go Go and her impeccable shaped ass. Lads, if she existed in real life, I would lay a pounding that would make the Devil himself look away. God damn



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Murphiroth
08/14/19 8:33:16 AM
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Eh.

I expected a Kingdom Hearts game. I got a Kingdom Hearts game.

I enjoyed it overall, although the pacing needed to be tweaked with more Org presence on the worlds, maybe with fights with the individual members on the worlds/in between the worlds while keeping the big team battles at the end.

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lilJoe457
08/14/19 8:59:18 AM
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I think the underlining problem is they just waited too long. Underestimated how much people want final fantasy involvement and just had too many moving pieces for the story.

The first one was simple. He was looking for his friends. Same with the second one. Third one. Well idk. He was looking for other people's friends. Hopefully they can build a new proper threat. Now more than ever would be the time to go use some proper final fantasy villains.
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slmcknett
08/14/19 2:51:55 PM
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lilJoe457 posted...
Hopefully they can build a new proper threat.

KH3's ending showed who the next villains are. And based on who they are...the next arc is gonna be as messy as the last one.
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DarthAragorn
08/14/19 2:53:12 PM
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slmcknett posted...
^And either of those two justifications were better than "finding the power of waking," which ultimately was irrelevant to every world you go to.

They clearly just had no idea what to do with Sora in this game. They could barely come up with an arc for him.

I legitimately forgot the power of waking was a thing

was it even used for anything
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KyoryuCyan
08/14/19 3:00:11 PM
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Skipped all the cutscenes and played on proud then critical

I missed nothing worth watching and it's STILL GOTY so hard everything else is running for runner up.
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trappedunderice
08/14/19 3:05:19 PM
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Kingdom hearts is one of the most cringiest games I've ever seen.
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SwayM
08/14/19 3:06:32 PM
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KH as a series is such a disappointment in general.

Imagine having all these Disney prosperities and thinking anyone gives an absolute fuck about your cringey fan fiction story you would rather tell instead.

What a fucking joke.
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Ving_Rhames
08/14/19 3:06:50 PM
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Not sure why anyone went into a Kingdom Hearts game expecting anything but mediocrity at best to begin with.
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SuperExcitebike
08/14/19 3:30:02 PM
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I was thinking about KH3 last night. I never actually died in that game. My only game overs were the ship race and gummie battles. And I sucked at some of the cooking. Other than that, the actual game was laughably easy

I really liked Mt Olympus and exploring the Pirates world, but that's it
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legendarylemur
08/14/19 3:39:17 PM
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I still maintain that KH1 was where all the magic was, and the series never even came close to that magic

Also, I actually did enjoy DDD lol. I dunno why the fanbase in general didn't

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Prismsblade
08/14/19 3:50:01 PM
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Frozens world is my vote for the worst world in the series. The ice labyrinth was alright but afterward it descends into hell.

The world is bland and generic, the story was s***. You dont really build a connection with the characters becuase you barely spend a time with or fight alongside them. The snowman.....buff said. Horrible minigames. And the entire let it go song.....why? Just why? They wasted development time on this?

And the overall message made no sense. Since when was sora ever sent someplace he wasnt needed? And how did the big bad know he wasnt needed, and why did she care?
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Schwarz
08/14/19 3:50:36 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
Voice acting was fine except for Donald Duck. Sir, I would like to request a sizable YIKES right there.

Lol, right? Almost every time Donald spoke more than five words together it started getting so fucking awkward. Like it sounds like it physically hurts him to speak and everyone's just standing there with embarrassed smiles on their faces just waiting for him to choke out whatever sentence he's struggling to finish.

My own complaint: cutscene frequency. Kingdom Hearts story and dialogue writing have never been its strong suit, but they seemed extra determined for this one to really cram it in every possible place they could. A lot of the time it really seemed like I couldn't get through a full minute of gameplay before I walked into another completely pointless conversation that always amounted to 'Let's go that way!' or 'We gotta stick together!' It's a story comprised of 75% waffling, 20% light/darkness/hearts/nobodies/keyblades/friendship bullshit, and 5% good stuff.

Bonus complaint: I only started noticing this in the last half of the game, but check out how often a character will sharply nod their head and go 'Hm!' to agree with someone. Don't make a drinking game out of it, you'll die real quick.
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The_Scarecrow
08/14/19 9:18:50 PM
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
Took many screenshots of Go Go and her impeccable shaped ass. Lads, if she existed in real life, I would lay a pounding that would make the Devil himself look away. God damn




Go Go is cute imo
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creativerealms
08/14/19 9:22:34 PM
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You just discribed every Kingdon Hearts game.
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pegusus123456
08/14/19 9:22:50 PM
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Schwarz posted...
My own complaint: cutscene frequency. Kingdom Hearts story and dialogue writing have never been its strong suit, but they seemed extra determined for this one to really cram it in every possible place they could.

This is also true in KH2 <_<

Basically every single area in every level had a cutscene attached to it.
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slmcknett
08/14/19 9:47:55 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...

I legitimately forgot the power of waking was a thing

was it even used for anything

He used it to bring back Ventus, and then he used it to revive everyone when they died at the end.

But he was using it wrong every time so that's why he died in the ending.
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DarthAragorn
08/14/19 9:48:59 PM
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lol god damn sora is a moron
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Jetblackmoon
08/14/19 10:02:08 PM
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Makes me sad to read this. I wanna play this eventually and it's a shame if it's really as bad as you say.
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lightwarrior78
08/14/19 10:06:18 PM
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I wouldn't say all of gaming, but it was another "climax to the multi game story" game that fell flat.

Combat was way too easy and cluttered with special attack crap.

The worlds fell into the same "too much crap" crap. How many mini games and collect a thons do we need in something not even open world.

The story at least didn't shit the bed like ME3 at the last minute, but it was like they took the most predictable and mundane path they could have taken for wrapping this up and went with it, all while tossing out a set of foreshadowed plot elements until after you beat the game, and only then to tease the next one.

Worlds largely felt uninspired. You start by killing the titans in Hercules, and it's downhill from there. Big Hero 6 and the Pirates world did the best, but they made me wish those were the whole game. (And now we know someone at SE is a big fan of assassin's creed's naval combat)

I didn't hate my time with it. But while I loved the series enough to marathon it before this came out, this one leaves me feeling little reason to go back to it.
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DarkRoast
08/14/19 10:07:24 PM
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Contrary to everyone else, I thought KH3 was great, and the Disney world graphics just blew my mind with how close they were to the source material

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creativerealms
08/14/19 10:29:06 PM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
Makes me sad to read this. I wanna play this eventually and it's a shame if it's really as bad as you say.

It's really not worse then the rest of the series. The plot has always been a mess.
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The_Scarecrow
08/15/19 12:39:37 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Jetblackmoon posted...
Makes me sad to read this. I wanna play this eventually and it's a shame if it's really as bad as you say.

It's really not worse then the rest of the series. The plot has always been a mess.


I agree but for the end of the saga, the writing should have been better. I have no hope for future titles in the series.
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Phantom_Nook
08/15/19 12:40:55 AM
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Nah, KH3 is lit.
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Touch
08/15/19 12:49:11 AM
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The best thing was the Einhander cameos and Donald somehow pulling a fucking magic nuke out of his ass
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Behaviorism
08/15/19 12:58:13 AM
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I find it funny that everyone is kh3 keeps saying sora is too weak, when ge couls kick the ass of everyone in the game, including yen sid
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Def_Pony23
08/15/19 1:59:08 AM
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This game has 0 final fantasy characters or star wars or marvel in it. A fucking decade waited for a disaster lol.
The game didn't do anything.
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TheBlueMonk_
08/15/19 2:01:12 AM
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agreed. it was so dumb
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Muten_Jiren
08/15/19 2:05:04 AM
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This is the exact definition of a "you problem"
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SailorGoon
08/15/19 2:07:04 AM
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Muten_Jiren posted...
This is the exact definition of a "you problem"

I thought the exact definition of a "you problem" is a problem that affects only you i.e. not others, but the complaints and problems seem to be shared by many others.
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SazhAndFrocobo
08/15/19 2:09:34 AM
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Apocalyptic posted...
Voice acting was fine except for Donald Duck.

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Phantom_Nook
08/15/19 2:15:22 AM
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Touch posted...
The best thing was the Einhander cameos and Donald somehow pulling a fucking magic nuke out of his ass

Super Duper Ingredient Blaster, to be exact.

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Murphiroth
08/15/19 2:19:08 AM
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SazhAndFrocobo posted...
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Yep. Donald's voice acting was fine and the same as always except for that line which sounded like the voice actor was dying when he delivered it. And of course it had to play all the time to make it more noticeable.

Tony Anselmo is getting older though, that might be why.

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CapnMuffin
08/15/19 2:20:39 AM
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It was...

Good. Like, I enjoyed it for what it was. Then again I did not go in expecting some earth shattering game. Basically just KH2 2.0 and a conclusion to the story.

And that's what I get. Well minus the conclusion part... dammit.
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Kami_no_Kami
08/15/19 2:36:00 AM
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My biggest issue was how the 2nd Org XIII was built up, only to get thrown at you like mooks at the end. I liked how you slowly worked through them in CoM and KH2 to the point that each one felt like a big event.

It doesnt help that each of the three way fights are laughably easy or that all of them end in the same melodramatic Now I can finally Rest In Peace (while the other two fighters just take a break I guess), which completely undermines their differing personalities up to this point.
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CapnMuffin
08/15/19 2:37:43 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
My biggest issue was how the 2nd Org XIII was built up, only to get thrown at you like mooks at the end. I liked how you slowly worked through them in CoM and KH2 to the point that each one felt like a big event.

It doesnt help that each of the three way fights are laughably easy or that all of them end in the same melodramatic Now I can finally Rest In Peace (while the other two fighters just take a break I guess), which completely undermines their differing personalities up to this point.

True. They should have been fought throughout the game and maybe have the triple Xehanort fight be the big one with ramped up difficulty and presentation.
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SailorGoon
08/15/19 2:38:17 AM
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Nomura is basically the George Lucas of the game industry
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KINDERFELD
08/15/19 4:03:35 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Square Enix isn't the company it was. Nothing from them after the PS2 era have been good.


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creativerealms
08/15/19 12:27:23 PM
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Def_Pony23 posted...
This game has 0 final fantasy characters or star wars or marvel in it. A fucking decade waited for a disaster lol.
The game didn't do anything.

Removing the final fantasy characters is one of the few things I'm glad KH3 did. I don't think Final fantasy characters should ever have been included.
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