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E32005 08/08/19 11:59:01 PM #51: |
teepan95 posted...
former SS guard for those who don't know, the SS were the 'true believers' of the Reich. dude deserves to rot, even if its for a few days. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 08/09/19 3:44:55 AM #54: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
This topic sure showed how many users on CE would be accessories to genocide rather than just having an honorable (albeit unknown) death. This is the issue. When it comes down to it big words on the internet mean jack all. I think the majority of people in the west are complicit in suffering somewhere. Whether thats the sweat shops where our clothes are from or the factories in China where kids make our tech. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 08/09/19 4:08:58 AM #55: |
You have to volunteer to be part of the SS, right?
Then he deserves it. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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End2011 08/09/19 4:24:39 AM #56: |
Ohhh boy if Magneto was real.... This site really shows a person's true colors
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Vita_Aeterna 08/09/19 5:12:58 AM #57: |
This serves no purpose. Aside from selling stories.
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Crepes 08/09/19 9:03:05 AM #58: |
St0rmFury posted...
You have to volunteer to be part of the SS, right? Do the people who volunteer to work for ICE deserve it as well? --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/09/19 9:04:54 AM #59: |
Crepes posted...
Do the people who volunteer to work for ICE deserve it as well?What a disturbing comment. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sad_Face 08/09/19 9:28:16 AM #61: |
This trial is such a waste of time; they're probably going through with it for bragging rights.
I remember listening to a discussion from Jordan Petersen on Nazis and he says the reason why a lot of Nazis joined and went the lengths for what they did was not out of malice, but out of respect for their own comrades. The mentality is that their buddies have to go and do such dirty work, how can they possibly leave them behind? Then he recommended this book: Christopher Browning - Ordinary Men, which explains the psychology in which Nazis were made. I haven't read it but I plan on it. Honestly, I believe people are far more influenced by society and their environment than they give credit to. I can see the point of the trial, but I feel treating ring leaders and subordinates of this scale as equals comes off as disingenuous. You have to be abnormal to go against the curve and normal people don't do this. I mean, how many of us decided against college? --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 08/09/19 9:46:02 AM #63: |
Sad_Face posted...
This trial is such a waste of time; they're probably going through with it for bragging rights. "I think Nazis should be immune from prosecution because of a Jordan Peterson video I watched" is peak CE. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 08/09/19 9:51:10 AM #64: |
I used to think prosecuting these geriatric nazis was pointless too, but you know what? There are still nazis in the world, young nazis and new nazis, and they need to understand the level of contempt the rest of the world has for them. A 92 year old nazi is still a nazi, and fuck nazis.
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DeadBankerDream 08/09/19 9:58:21 AM #65: |
Jordan "Hitler didn't hate Jews he was just obsessed with killing cockroaches" Peterson
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Sad_Face 08/09/19 10:31:03 AM #67: |
BadderHare posted...
Sad_Face posted...This trial is such a waste of time; they're probably going through with it for bragging rights. Dude, it's acknowledging how easily a human can be corrupted and just how much influence an authoritative figure has on a group. Have you ever heard of the Mai Lai Massacre of Vietnam? It was basically a group of US soldiers who haven't seen any battles since they were deployed, been battling just the trap infested environment while constantly hearing hearsay about how dangerous the Vietnamese enemies, and when they finally got the opportunity to go into the battlefield against the enemies, they found out it was a false info and the village they were sent to were made up of plain unarmed civilians. You know what happened next? The authority of that group took the first shot and all hell broke loose. A complete horror story, women being assaulted, men mercilessly killed off, babies tossed into the air and caught... with bayonets. A soldier who was involved was interviewed when he came back and his remarks? "It's just one of them things" The truth of the matter is that not all of us are shonen heroes who always fights for what they believe in regardless of the circumstance. And those who do contribute to these incidents are far more similar and human than what is led to be believed. That's why it's important to understand how they end up committing these insane actions so we know how to prevent them in the future. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 08/09/19 10:36:51 AM #69: |
eston posted...
There are still nazis in the world, young nazis and new nazis, and they need to understand the level of contempt the rest of the world has for them. A 92 year old nazi is still a nazi, and fuck nazis. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. "I don't f****** care about anyone's penis but mine..." - Machete ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 08/09/19 10:43:39 AM #70: |
Just throwing this out there, if he is 92 as of 2019, he was born in 1927.
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DeadBankerDream 08/09/19 10:44:07 AM #71: |
Perascamin posted...
Just throwing this out there, if he is 92 as of 2019, he was born in 1927.He's being charged as a minor. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 08/09/19 11:33:05 AM #72: |
LepartialJury posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...This topic sure showed how many users on CE would be accessories to genocide rather than just having an honorable (albeit unknown) death. Think it's easier to say words before stuff actually happens, although I hope the actual need to choose doesn't happen to anyone. --- FGO NA ID: 973,333,976 Support List Image: https://imgur.com/Qdw5kXh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/09/19 12:56:12 PM #73: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
He's being charged as a minor.He's going to be shown leniency. He's lived over 70 years without hurting anyone. Another Nazi a few years ago was sentenced to 4 years or something like that for accessory to murder for 300,000 people and then didn't serve any of it because his health delayed incarceration and then he died before he could serve a single day. The point is some crimes you don't get away with even if you got away with it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 08/09/19 1:05:59 PM #74: |
He's going to die of old age before he sees prison.
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teepan95 08/09/19 1:07:15 PM #75: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...He's being charged as a minor.He's going to be shown leniency. He's lived over 70 years without hurting anyone. Another Nazi a few years ago was sentenced to 4 years or something like that for accessory to murder for 300,000 people and then didn't serve any of it because his health delayed incarceration and then he died before he could serve a single day. All the more reason to formally charge him --- I use Gameraven and you should too. "I don't f****** care about anyone's penis but mine..." - Machete ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 08/09/19 1:17:02 PM #76: |
He joined the SS because he didnt want to leave his buddies behind!
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Dampproof 08/09/19 1:25:52 PM #77: |
only CE could defend literal SS Soldiers.
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SuperShake666 08/09/19 1:36:48 PM #78: |
Shocking nobody, the usual suspects defend a member of the literal SS.
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Vergil92 08/09/19 1:47:54 PM #79: |
Good.
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Crepes 08/09/19 4:34:26 PM #80: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
What a disturbing comment. Why? --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 08/09/19 5:27:27 PM #83: |
You guys seem to be missing that he was either 16 or 17 when the war ended. You underestimate the power of the Hitler Youth program and the way it indoctrinated ignorant kids who didn't know any better and lead to a direct path in the SS. Kids in the youth program also got to eat more than kids who weren't.
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E32005 08/09/19 5:33:05 PM #84: |
Perascamin posted...
You guys seem to be missing that he was either 16 or 17 when the war ended. You underestimate the power of the Hitler Youth program and the way it indoctrinated ignorant kids who didn't know any better and lead to a direct path in the SS. Kids in the youth program also got to eat more than kids who weren't. not an excuse. been shot down for almost a century. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nikra 08/09/19 5:37:29 PM #85: |
You might wonder why they waste taxpayers money on a 92 year old man, that have lived his life for 70 years after ww2. That's a joke. How will they punish him? Life in prison? Yeah right.
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DeadBankerDream 08/09/19 5:39:36 PM #86: |
Nikra posted...
You might wonder why they waste taxpayers moneyIf you think making sure nazi war criminals are legally condemned for their actions is a waste of money, chances are you're a bad person. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nikra 08/09/19 5:45:13 PM #87: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
Nikra posted...You might wonder why they waste taxpayers moneyIf you think making sure nazi war criminals are legally condemned for their actions is a waste of money, chances are you're a bad person. There's nothing more evil than what the nazies did in WW2. My point is that it's patehic to go after a 92 year old (and probably) evil man: He will probably die before the trial is over anyway. My point is that it's a waste of us taxpayers money. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/09/19 5:46:20 PM #88: |
Nikra posted...
My point is that it's a waste of us taxpayers money.Bro... Bro... --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lonestar2000 08/09/19 5:49:34 PM #89: |
TBQH all the people who served in the military during Hitler's rule should be prosecuted because they enabled his regime.
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tainted_emerald 08/09/19 5:51:28 PM #90: |
ModLogic posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...The world at large determined that "I was just following orders" is not a valid defense over 70 years ago. It was called the Nuremberg Trials. Well, the USA had been doing the same, and continues to do so in some parts, for nearly a century prior. Of course they're not going to bring it up when another country copies them. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose and you would have altered its nature. We use what tools we must." - Gerald Tarrant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nikra 08/09/19 5:51:34 PM #91: |
Lonestar2000 posted...
TBQH all the people who served in the military during Hitler's rule should be prosecuted because they enabled his regime. What's wrong with you??? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 08/09/19 7:33:46 PM #92: |
shockthemonkey posted...
War criminals deserve to face punishment for their war crimes whether theyre German or American. not according to america. since they helped numerous japanese ww2 criminals escape justice in exchange for research data. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sondast 08/09/19 7:55:59 PM #93: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
This topic sure showed how many users on CE would be accessories to genocide rather than just having an honorable (albeit unknown) death. My death wouldn't be unknown because if I were in that situation I would have killed as many officers as I could before getting caught, so the regime would likely have made my death very public. Like Sergeant Stiglitz. --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 08/09/19 7:58:21 PM #94: |
Nikra posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...He made a similar comment in a thread about Bill Cosby. People miserable in life turn bitter, hateful and resentful because theyre not happy themselves. I dont know if thats his case or his age but I find this generation compounding their misery with be knee jerk reactionary to an extreme degree.TBQH all the people who served in the military during Hitler's rule should be prosecuted because they enabled his regime. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarGrox 08/09/19 8:01:31 PM #95: |
"The accused was 17 and 18 at the time of his service and as a result, he will be tried in a juvenile court. He could face anything from six months to 10 years behind bars if found guilty."
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YellowSUV 08/09/19 8:15:02 PM #96: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
The world at large determined that "I was just following orders" is not a valid defense over 70 years ago. It was called the Nuremberg Trials. For Germany, but not Japan. The Western Allies AND Soviet Union both had obvious issues with Germany's war crimes so they were actually punished. Japan got away with a bunch of terrible shit so the USA could use Japan as a bulwark against the Soviet Union and China. One of Japan's post-war Prime Ministers was a Class A War Criminal suspect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/09/19 9:18:58 PM #97: |
I just want to point out that Nuremberg did not determine "just following orders" was an invalid defense. It is an invalid defense but Nuremberg proved that many Nazis actually went far beyond their orders to be cruel and murderous. Many of them were, in fact, NOT following orders. They went the extra mile to be as terrible as possible.
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teepan95 08/10/19 5:20:56 PM #98: |
Up
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Kensaimage 08/10/19 5:23:25 PM #99: |
Dude is 92. I mean, good to face the crimes, but at this point you may as well either just put him down or let it go.
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teepan95 08/11/19 12:09:55 AM #100: |
Kensaimage posted...
Dude is 92. I mean, good to face the crimes, but at this point you may as well either just put him down or let it go. Bad take imo --- I use Gameraven and you should too. "I don't f****** care about anyone's penis but mine..." - Machete ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 08/11/19 6:07:01 AM #101: |
E32005 posted...
not an excuse. been shot down for almost a century. use your own brain --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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