Current Events > Democratic Socialists now claim borders are tool of white supremacy.

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Whereas Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) members across the country organize on a daily basis for anti-imperialism, immigrant justice, labor rights, ecosocialism, and many other issues, with a core belief in solidarity between the workers of the world and an international socialist movement;

Whereas DSA is an internationalist socialist organization, and as such it recognizes that socialists fight to build working class power for all people, regardless of immigration status or country of residence;

Whereas borders serve to undermine the international working class, by pitting immigrant and citizen workers in America and foreign and American workers against each other in a race to the bottom;

Whereas border and immigration enforcement are tools of white supremacy, capitalism and imperialism;

Whereas borders, their creation, and their enforcement, erase the existence and sovereignty of indigenous peoples;

Whereas borders are, and will increasingly be, utilized to violently dominate and restrict peoples movement as climate change pushes people from their homes;

Whereas border and interior immigration enforcement threaten immigrant workers ability to organize;

Whereas Comprehensive Immigration Reform policies seek to control who deserves entrance to and/ or permanence in the US, and offer empty promises of protection for resident immigrants in exchange for increased border enforcement, and thus will continue to undermine solidarity and organizing efforts for immigrant justice;

Whereas immigration policy, and its enforcement practices, are set on the federal level, without democratic input or accountability and thus demands a nationally coordinated response;

Whereas the continual assault on immigrants rights from both the right and the center produces a reactionary, short-sighted view on immigration that reinforces border securitization, which pervades even leftist spaces and thus necessitates a positive, radical vision for immigration justice and internationalism;

Be it resolved that DSA supports the demand for open borders;

Be it resolved that DSA supports the the uninhibited transnational free movement of people, the demilitarization of the US-Mexico border, the abolition of ICE and CPB without replacement, decriminalization of immigration, full amnesty for all asylum seekers and a pathway to citizenship for all non-citizen residents;

Be it resolved that DSA develops political education resources to be shared with chapters across the country to deepen and broaden the understanding of the demand for open borders and how to fight for it. These efforts shall be made in coordination between the national Immigrants Rights Working Group, the International Committee, and chapters and members across the country working on issues of immigration justice and internationalism;

Be it resolved that DSA recognizes and reflects our support for open borders in our evaluations and endorsement of political campaigns.

https://medium.com/@stevens.elijah/open-borders-resolution-dsa-national-convention-2019-28208937504

Open Borders is Good.
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Iodine posted...

Open Borders is Good.

How do you prevent human trafficking? Drug trafficking? Welfare systems and infrastructure being overwhelmed?

pls posted...

Iodine posted...

Open Borders is Good.

How do you prevent human trafficking? Drug trafficking? Welfare systems and infrastructure being overwhelmed?

Legalize (voluntary) prostitution
Legalize drug use
Abolish the welfare state
Privatize infrastructure development
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nobody wants open borders
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You need some sort of secure border. Just because a massive border wall that costs at least $20 billion is an awful idea doesn't mean that open borders is a better one. You just need some security not a crazy amount of it.
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FL81 posted...

Abolish the welfare state
Privatize infrastructure development

Don't do these parts
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Iodine posted...

Open Borders is Good.

Open borders destroys countries. Policies like this are why I support the establishment.
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White supremacists love borders.

AlephZero posted...

nobody wants open borders

The left wants open borders.

Antifar posted...

Don't do these parts

In that case you'd likely just get more people flocking in than can be physically supported by the systems in place. Let's be real, no one from America would be migrating to the other side of the current border. It'd be one way traffic.

Hop103 posted...

Iodine posted...

Open Borders is Good.

Open borders destroys countries. Policies like this are why I support the establishment.

Every state has open borders, my dude.
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pls posted...

The left wants open borders.

Name any reputable democrat politician that actually says this.
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What about non white countries like China? Are their borders white supremacy?

pls posted...

AlephZero posted...

nobody wants open borders

The left wants open borders.

Antifar posted...

Don't do these parts

In that case you'd likely just get more people flocking in than can be physically supported by the systems in place. Let's be real, no one from America would be migrating to the other side of the current border. It'd be one way traffic.

There used to be a circular flow before 9/11's tightening of "security".

RoadsterUFO posted...

A perfectly good time to remind everyone that Bernie Sanders wants to reduce the amount of work visas available to immigrants that would like to legally come into the United States for employment opportunity, considers open borders a Koch Brothers proposal, and that we cant have immigrants coming into the United States because they depress wages.

Source???

ButteryMales posted...

There used to be a circular flow before 9/11's tightening of "security".

ya im sure millions of americans were desperate to leave america and settle down in venezuela or mexico before 9/11

RoadsterUFO posted...

Based on what hard evidence? The United States didnt have any federal laws relating to immigration until the late 19th century, and it was to exclude the amount of immigrants coming in from China. The United States had a large influx of immigrants coming in for many years to make their lives better with opportunity. The large size of the federal government and the countless welfare programs and catch-22s in conjunction with how hard it is just to legally come here into the United States legally for employment are factors to why our immigration system is a clusterfuck. There was a time when you could argue immigration was only good if it was illegal.

are you somehow under the impression that we'd get less people flocking in and straining our systems, if borders no longer existed?

@pls you actually going to name and source democrats who want open borders?
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If anything, migrant flow helps boost economic activity

And as for "system strain", structure it in a way that it won't be strained (i.e. privatize it)
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FL81 posted...

If anything, migrant flow helps boost economic activity

And as for "system strain", structure it in a way that it won't be strained (i.e. privatize it)

do you understand that there are physical limits on things like roads and bridges and that you can't just let open the floodgates for people to swarm in?

also most migrants coming would not have the skills to compete in the market. the only work available would menial labor, and there isnt enough of that to go around

good
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RoadsterUFO posted...

We had way more people coming in two centuries ago than we do now. The doom and gloom emotional fueled anti-immigration rhetoric conservatives often use now doesnt pass the f***ing smell test to immigration just two centuries ago. Why would it be a problem today when it wasnt then? All the arguments against more immigration today are often based on keeping out potential labor for lazy ass white people that dont wanna learn a skill and would prefer to be the gatekeepers of minimal skilled employment positions. If your problem is with immigrants being allowed welfare usage, why not work on fixing the f***ing welfare system?

so to be clear you are advocating eliminating all welfare and opening the borders

rather than attempting to keep both a welfare state and open borders

is that right? also where is your source about bernie?

Mecha Sonic posted...

good

that'll be a yikes from me dawg

"But nobody is calling for open borders"

Definitely heard that before on this site.

Anyway absolute no to this.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

"But nobody is calling for open borders"

Definitely heard that before on this site.

Anyway absolute no to this.

leftists on ce: no one wants open borders

also leftists on ce: here's why we need open borders

I'm saying open borders
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Antifar posted...

Hop103 posted...

Iodine posted...

Open Borders is Good.

Open borders destroys countries. Policies like this are why I support the establishment.

Every state has open borders, my dude.

States are not countries, try again.
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Antifar posted...

I'm saying open borders

you didn't address the problems with the concept so

RoadsterUFO posted...

Yes, Id be perfectly fine with a complete elimination of the federal welfare state in the United States and making it as easy as possible for immigrants to open a work visa and come here for employment, not citizenship. That would be preferred first option. For the second Id be fine with going back to the immigration policy regarding welfare years ago and eliminating catch-22s, just making it so immigrants are denied any legibility to the United States welfare system.

I must point out that this is very different from what the leftists believe, so I can't consider you amongst them. Such an approach might be sustainable, but the leftist approach is certainly not sustainable.

And they know it, they've just been brainwashed to hate America so much that the collapse is what they're hoping for.

pls posted...

Whereas border and immigration enforcement are tools of white supremacy, capitalism and imperialism

Now were you intentionally misrepresenting this or do you just lack basic reading comprehension?

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pls posted...

ButteryMales posted...

There used to be a circular flow before 9/11's tightening of "security".

ya im sure millions of americans were desperate to leave america and settle down in venezuela or mexico before 9/11

Circular flow refers to temporary immigrants that would work jobs Americans didn't want then return home in a circle like flow. After 9/11 that became extremely difficult so now they stay as illegal immigrants.

pls posted...

It'd be one way traffic.

Is not true.