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Taharqa_
07/28/19 7:22:53 AM
#51:


treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.
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0xDEFECADE
07/28/19 7:24:01 AM
#52:


29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 7:32:02 AM
#53:


Perascamin posted...
I'm sorry you can't accept reality, but here it is. Pit Bulls were bred to fight and hold/slow down large game for hunters for generations. It is simply the animal's instinct to show aggression and attack people or other animals.

Also, several of those videos absolutely occur in developed areas and at least 4 of the videos are attacks when an owner has their dog on a leash.


There are many working breeds that have been bred to hunt and hold game for generations. Dog fighting and animal hunting is a different trait than human aggression, just because a dog has one does not mean it will automatically have the other. If that were the case then all hunting dogs would be dangerous with people, and that's not true. Animal aggression and human aggression two are completely different traits.

You have dogs like Dogo Argentinos that were specifically bred to hunt wild boars, fight and hold onto them and be chill among family when not working. Pit Bulls are naturally dog aggressive, some more hot than others but they are generally very people friendly. My own Italian Mastiff has killed possums, raccoons, tangled with a wild boar sow and has never attacked anyone and she naturally has much more of a guardian instinct than a Pit Bull, as in she does not allow people she does not know enter the yard uninvited by me.
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 7:35:11 AM
#54:


0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.
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Zen-move
07/28/19 9:32:41 AM
#55:


Perascamin posted...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ZBpNdHLKTVU



This one guys for that guy who was saying that huskies are like pit bulls and Rottweilers
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PIITB415
07/28/19 9:33:37 AM
#56:


Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.


Jesus. Bad training
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 9:45:56 AM
#57:


PIITB415 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.


Jesus. Bad training


Or, she's a dog that has no tolerance for cats and that's perfectly fine. She does her job at keeping wild and feral animals off of my property. That's one of the reasons I got her.
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radical rhino
07/28/19 9:51:52 AM
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The two anti-pit fanatics in this topic should just be banned from the internet and forced to research aggression in dog breeds.
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0xDEFECADE
07/28/19 9:52:21 AM
#59:


radical rhino posted...
The two anti-pit fanatics in this topic should just be banned from the internet and forced to research aggression in dog breeds.

pitbull owners in a nutshell
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MrMallard
07/28/19 9:53:50 AM
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D, shitty people abuse them and exploit their strength. Pitbulls are perfectly sweet animals when raised right.
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Dragonblade01
07/28/19 9:56:28 AM
#61:


I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."
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0xDEFECADE
07/28/19 10:05:07 AM
#62:


Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away
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Dragonblade01
07/28/19 10:11:54 AM
#63:


0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away

Yes, because news reports, at best, only report instances of things happening. What they don't do is help people understand why they happened (because, frankly, that's not really their job). This happens with many, many things other than pitbulls, btw.

You're informed about pitbull attacks. You aren't informed about the breed or dog behaviour.
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21WIVES_CHILL
07/28/19 10:12:40 AM
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D. Not if you live in the projects.
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Gafemage
07/28/19 10:12:54 AM
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Catboy you dont even go outside, what do you honestly have to fear
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On_The_Edge
07/28/19 10:13:33 AM
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this debate is so fucking funny to me
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Flockaveli
07/28/19 10:14:25 AM
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D. Most dogs regardless of breed are aggressive because most people who own them are shit/lazy people.
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 10:14:35 AM
#68:


0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away


The news is not a good source for things such as this as they never break down or explain the details of the event, it's more angled toward sensationalism. There is often the problem of breed mislabeling too. Attacks by other dogs is not deemed as news worthy. About six years ago a woman a few counties over from me was killed by her dog. The dog was described as a "big, shaggy dog", it only recieved a small blurb in the local news.
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0xDEFECADE
07/28/19 10:15:45 AM
#69:


Gafemage posted...
Catboy you dont even go outside, what do you honestly have to fear

my female friend has a pitbull. I'm not afraid of it. but if you must know, I have pets that live in teh neighborhood, and I've seen people walking with pitbulls here.
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0xDEFECADE
07/28/19 10:16:22 AM
#70:


Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away


The news is not a good source for things such as this as they never break down or explain the details of the event, it's more angled toward sensationalism. There is often the problem of breed mislabeling too. Attacks by other dogs is not deemed as news worthy. About six years ago a woman a few counties over from me was killed by her dog. The dog was described as a "big, shaggy dog", it only recieved a small blurb in the local news.

oh so you're deluded. next!
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 10:18:54 AM
#71:


0xDEFECADE posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away


The news is not a good source for things such as this as they never break down or explain the details of the event, it's more angled toward sensationalism. There is often the problem of breed mislabeling too. Attacks by other dogs is not deemed as news worthy. About six years ago a woman a few counties over from me was killed by her dog. The dog was described as a "big, shaggy dog", it only recieved a small blurb in the local news.

oh so you're deluded. next!


And you wouldn't be able to identify a real Pit Bull if a million dollars was riding on it. You're also intellectually lazy about this subject and have little understanding of canine behavior. NEXT!
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SailorGoon
07/28/19 10:21:57 AM
#72:


D

but I'm not gonna back it up with anecdotal evidence since that's a really shitty argument.
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untrustful
07/28/19 10:24:55 AM
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C but all dogs. They belong on a plate not in our homes.
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MrMallard
07/28/19 10:27:04 AM
#74:


Like there have been pitbull attacks, the dogs can absolutely be vicious. I understand why there's such a hysteric backlash against the breed. But this isn't some hard-coded genetic switch. Pitbulls aren't born with a taste for blood and a desire to kill. They are strong, and they can be - and often are - conditioned for violence and fighting. But you can't paint an entire genetic legacy of dog by that brush.

Any dog can snap like that if pushed far enough. Any dog can eat a toddler's face, a sufficiently abused dog can go apeshit and murder a bunch of animals at a vet. It's truly terrifying what pitbulls have done at times, I agree. But that's not every pitbull, and to wave the entire breed away as just some genetic accident that we need to cull to make dogs safer as a whole is to ignore the larger issues of animal abuse and a lack of public literacy in regards to pets and their needs.

You're not being funny or smart, you're being an asshole. Pitbulls don't have violence and bloodlust hard-coded into their genes, they're mistreated by the scum of the earth to exploit their strength for violent means or their emotional needs aren't met by their families. The issue is with how they're raised - and once they're broken, they may very well need to be put down. But they aren't inherently violent by their nature. No domesticated dog breed truly is.
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treebrojima
07/28/19 10:29:53 AM
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please don't respond to catboy, he's insane
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kingdrake2
07/28/19 12:12:32 PM
#76:


treebrojima posted...
please don't respond to catboy, he's insane


i'm glad catman is back. he never left us.
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vocedelmorte
07/28/19 12:15:21 PM
#77:


Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.

They aren't a prey animals. Wild animals kill their prey for food, not because they're blinded by the bloodlust and can't stop killing. Normal dog will chase cat, but it will not going to kill it
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 12:22:27 PM
#78:


vocedelmorte posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.

They aren't a prey animals. Wild animals kill their prey for food, not because they're blinded by the bloodlust and can't stop killing. Normal dog will chase cat, but it will not going to kill it


False. Dogs with prey drive against cats will kill them if they manage to get a hold of one and are able to do so. It's no different from them going after possums and raccoons, they make no distinction like us. Predators kill other animals all the time, it's not "blinded by bloodlust". Are cats that kill birds without eating them or weasels that engage in surplus killing blinded by bloodlust?
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KillerKhan420
07/28/19 12:27:33 PM
#79:


vocedelmorte posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.

They aren't a prey animals. Wild animals kill their prey for food, not because they're blinded by the bloodlust and can't stop killing. Normal dog will chase cat, but it will not going to kill it


Uh, what? You must live in a city to post this. Animals kill for a myriad of reasons, territory, getting rid of competition for prey, and yes if they're not hungry they'll still kill. Go watch some documentaries.
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Deadpool_18
07/28/19 12:29:23 PM
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D. Only the willfully ignorant and light racists believe that pit bulls make bad pets.
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vocedelmorte
07/28/19 12:33:12 PM
#81:


KillerKhan420 posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.

They aren't a prey animals. Wild animals kill their prey for food, not because they're blinded by the bloodlust and can't stop killing. Normal dog will chase cat, but it will not going to kill it


Uh, what? You must live in a city to post this. Animals kill for a myriad of reasons, territory, getting rid of competition for prey, and yes if they're not hungry they'll still kill. Go watch some documentaries.

Even if they do, wild animal have no business been a pet
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Deadpool_18
07/28/19 12:34:15 PM
#82:


Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.
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vocedelmorte
07/28/19 12:36:52 PM
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I like how it became a racist thing in US, while US have no culture of dog breeding anyway lol and there are hardly any pure breed dogs in US.
And many people have no cynology knowledge, but just their feelings
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vocedelmorte
07/28/19 12:37:06 PM
#84:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.

Lmao
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 12:39:38 PM
#85:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.


The American Pit Bull Terrier is the only true "Pit Bull". There are other breeds lumped together with APBTs as "Pit Bull type" but are all different breeds and have different breed standards. Saying all dogs that look kinda similar are Pit Bulls is like saying a Belgian Malinois, German Shepard and Dutch Shepard are the same thing.
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 12:40:13 PM
#86:


vocedelmorte posted...
I like how it became a racist thing in US, while US have no culture of dog breeding anyway lol and there are hardly any pure breed dogs in US.
And many people have no cynology knowledge, but just their feelings


Just stop making up stuff please.
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Perascamin
07/28/19 12:42:10 PM
#87:


Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away


The news is not a good source for things such as this as they never break down or explain the details of the event, it's more angled toward sensationalism. There is often the problem of breed mislabeling too. Attacks by other dogs is not deemed as news worthy. About six years ago a woman a few counties over from me was killed by her dog. The dog was described as a "big, shaggy dog", it only recieved a small blurb in the local news.

That because theres nothing to explain. Watch the videos I posted. Literally every pitbull attack does it for no reason and many of them are LEASHED AND BEING HANDLED BY AN OWNER
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Samurontai
07/28/19 12:42:43 PM
#88:


vocedelmorte posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.

Lmao


Hes not wrong
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 12:43:19 PM
#89:


Perascamin posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."

so misinformed by the countless news reports of pointless slaughter excused away


The news is not a good source for things such as this as they never break down or explain the details of the event, it's more angled toward sensationalism. There is often the problem of breed mislabeling too. Attacks by other dogs is not deemed as news worthy. About six years ago a woman a few counties over from me was killed by her dog. The dog was described as a "big, shaggy dog", it only recieved a small blurb in the local news.

That because theres nothing to explain. Watch the videos I posted. Literally every pitbull attack does it for no reason and many of them are LEASHED AND BEING HANDLED BY AN OWNER


To your untrained eye maybe.
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Zen-move
07/28/19 12:46:40 PM
#90:


Samurontai posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.

Lmao


Hes not wrong


https://www.akc.org/press-releases/celebrating-all-american-dog-breeds/
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Samurontai
07/28/19 12:49:54 PM
#91:


Zen-move posted...
Samurontai posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.

Lmao


Hes not wrong


https://www.akc.org/press-releases/celebrating-all-american-dog-breeds/


O...Kay?
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Zen-move
07/28/19 12:52:25 PM
#92:


Samurontai posted...
Zen-move posted...
Samurontai posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
treewojima posted...
I wonder how many of y'all still think pit bulls have "locking jaws" or are the only breed that can "snap" at any moment for any reason


Because of media hysteria. The lock jaw thing is a myth on the level of porcupines shooting quills, and dogs just don't "snap".

And about 9 out of 10 people in this topic couldn't identify an actual Pit Bull if provided a line up of pics.


Thats because pit bull isnt a breed.

Lmao


Hes not wrong


https://www.akc.org/press-releases/celebrating-all-american-dog-breeds/


O...Kay?


My bad lol

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MaverickXeo
07/28/19 2:55:48 PM
#93:


Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."


They can and do. Much like any animal/person/etc.

My sister had a jack russel mix that was a little sweet dog. It was normally pretty nice until it got older. It had a seizure and then attacked my brother in law. That is pretty much a 'snap' if I've heard it.
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 2:57:49 PM
#94:


MaverickXeo posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."


They can and do. Much like any animal/person/etc.

My sister had a jack russel mix that was a little sweet dog. It was normally pretty nice until it got older. It had a seizure and then attacked my brother in law. That is pretty much a 'snap' if I've heard it.


That's due to a medical reason. Reactions to seizures can be unpredictable.
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De Evolution
07/28/19 3:06:54 PM
#95:


PIITB415 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
29 dead cats in a shelter is not media hysteria, it's truth


Cats are prey animals to dogs. My dog has declared a fatwa against all cats and would get at one if she could, tried to go after a bobcat one time. Her prey drive against animals other than dogs is pretty high when it comes to things roaming my property.


Jesus. Bad training


If I have property and my dog does a great job of protecting it from other animals and other potential threats, I'd consider that good training.
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MaverickXeo
07/28/19 3:39:21 PM
#96:


Taharqa_ posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."


They can and do. Much like any animal/person/etc.

My sister had a jack russel mix that was a little sweet dog. It was normally pretty nice until it got older. It had a seizure and then attacked my brother in law. That is pretty much a 'snap' if I've heard it.


That's due to a medical reason. Reactions to seizures can be unpredictable.


'Medical' reason is still a 'snap.' It happened and within seconds she attacked my brother in law. After that, any little thing would set her off.

My sister has another dog (a rescue) that is normally pretty docile. If he is sitting under the table and you move your foot, he will growl and nip at your foot (doesn't bite... yet, but still unpredictable).
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Taharqa_
07/28/19 3:41:58 PM
#97:


MaverickXeo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's not surprising people are this misinformed about the breed when they still believe the myth that dogs "snap."


They can and do. Much like any animal/person/etc.

My sister had a jack russel mix that was a little sweet dog. It was normally pretty nice until it got older. It had a seizure and then attacked my brother in law. That is pretty much a 'snap' if I've heard it.


That's due to a medical reason. Reactions to seizures can be unpredictable.


'Medical' reason is still a 'snap.' It happened and within seconds she attacked my brother in law. After that, any little thing would set her off.

My sister has another dog (a rescue) that is normally pretty docile. If he is sitting under the table and you move your foot, he will growl and nip at your foot (doesn't bite... yet, but still unpredictable).


I don't consider that a "snap", the reason for the behavior is known and not some mystery.

And food/resource guarding is not unpredictable behavior.
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kingdrake2
07/28/19 5:14:38 PM
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once we put dog's breakfast/dinner on the ground. we leave it alone so she could eat.
we do like to give the cows milk from time to time. just a small amount for she will get diarrhea if give too much.

we dont see the point of putting our hand in the bowl while eating she knows who's boss.
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GoodOlJr
07/28/19 5:18:45 PM
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Always confirm

Capable of too much damage, the ony upside is that drug dealers and people with a savior complex get to feel cool
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Evolician
07/28/19 5:44:54 PM
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How does disliking pit bulls make one racist?
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