Poll of the Day > If you call ICE on families minding their own business, youre going to hell.

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Mead
07/16/19 10:28:03 AM
#51:


adjl posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
The holocaust didn't have legal grounds


The government of Nazi Germany (read: the one who both wrote the laws and executed them) would disagree with you on that.


Youd think a European would be a little more educated on the matter
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 10:28:23 AM
#52:


adjl posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
The holocaust didn't have legal grounds


The government of Nazi Germany (read: the one who both wrote the laws and executed them) would disagree with you on that.

International law was clear.

Notice how NATO isn't invading the US to dismantle these "concentration camps", it's as though they're not illegal.
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Mead
07/16/19 10:33:04 AM
#53:


Um if NATO invasion and intervention is your standard for a violation of international law then I doubt much could happen in the world that you would ever view as a crime
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Nichtcrawler X
07/16/19 10:38:09 AM
#54:


Mead posted...
He likes to use the ok symbol with the white hand because he knows its used online by white supremacist groups


I am seeing a shrug followed by the mars symbol.
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ninja_lootz
07/16/19 10:44:12 AM
#55:


Mead posted...
1. a refugee applying for asylum is not an illegal immigrant. Not sure how many times that needs to be stated.

90% of those "asylum" seekers don't show up to their case hearings.

They get released inside the border and then live illegally in the USA.

That makes them illegal immigrants.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 10:49:59 AM
#56:


Mead posted...
Um if NATO invasion and intervention is your standard for a violation of international law then I doubt much could happen in the world that you would ever view as a crime

Do you think international law is something we follow out of good will? There's enforcement, enforcement that hasn't occurred.
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xKynOx
07/16/19 10:50:58 AM
#57:


The Commies killed way more people than the nazis. Both side's are the shit on my shoe
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Jen0125
07/16/19 10:58:56 AM
#58:


Kyuubi4269 posted...

You're the one who claimed that any sexual contact from men can be classified rape because the woman may be terrified by nothing he's done other than be male and it's on him when she doesn't express the slightest discomfort or resistance.

You posted that shit here, your credibility requires putting in context.


If you're talking about rape by coercion that's absolutely not what I said, but ok.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

"Parents" under suspicion of child sex trafficking, which is a major issue in the US. Do you approve for child prostitution? Or do you just think it matters less than open borders?


If you really think that's what is going on you need to stop reading Infowars.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
And the judge will let them leave unless there's reason to believe they're criminal in some other way.


Where did you get this information? Can you please post a source showing that judges are releasing anyone who asks?
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GamerGirlzBesty
07/16/19 11:00:09 AM
#59:


everyone should be bestys with everyone

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Jen0125
07/16/19 11:00:13 AM
#60:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
papercup posted...
So what I gather from this thread is there would have been nothing wrong with the holocaust if they were rounding up and killing illegals rather than citizens.

Please tell me you people are smarter than this.

The holocaust didn't have legal grounds, this does, case shut.


Sure it did, because the government gave it legal grounds with all the laws they enacted. It's funny how that works.
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SmokeMassTree
07/16/19 11:05:20 AM
#61:


Why are they still coming if America is now nazi Germany?
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 11:06:09 AM
#62:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Why are they still coming if America is now nazi Germany?

The Presidente of Mexico declared the floor is lava so they have no choice.
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SmokeMassTree
07/16/19 11:07:11 AM
#63:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why are they still coming if America is now nazi Germany?

The Presidente of Mexico declared the floor is lava so they have no choice.


Ohh makes sense
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argonautweakend
07/16/19 11:48:36 AM
#64:


didnt read the topic, but i will say, while i live in the northeast US and hardly ever see any hispanic people, it isnt my job to play ICE agent. If I see somebody committing a crime(No, not BBQing in the park, like actual crime), and they get nabbed and have to go back to their own country so be it. But in general, somebody could tell me straight to my face they are here illegally and I'd wonder what they want me to do about it, because i have better things to do than snitch.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 11:49:39 AM
#65:


argonautweakend posted...
in general, somebody could tell me straight to my face they are here illegally and I'd wonder what they want me to do about it, because i have better things to do than snitch.

I'd wonder why they were telling you, not making the call themselves.
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Jen0125
07/16/19 11:50:21 AM
#66:


Because normal people don't call the police for victimless crimes.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 11:53:31 AM
#67:


Jen0125 posted...
Because normal people don't call the police for victimless crimes.

They wouldn't be crimes if they were victimless. Somebody loses something, even if it's just Mexico losing human resources they sunk funds in to.
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Jen0125
07/16/19 11:56:04 AM
#68:


I can't tell if you're being satirical now.
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Jen0125
07/16/19 11:56:45 AM
#69:


Where is your source for the claim that these people are released once they ask an immigration judge?
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 11:58:00 AM
#70:


Borders serve a purpose; you may not like it but regulation is extremely convenient and when people skirt it, it's harder to enforce rules.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 12:00:04 PM
#71:


Jen0125 posted...
Where is your source for the claim that these people are released once they ask an immigration judge?

Where's your source judges are acting criminally, imprisoning foreign nationals indefinitely?
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Blighboy
07/16/19 12:00:36 PM
#72:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Borders serve a purpose; you may not like it but regulation is extremely convenient and when people skirt it, it's harder to enforce rules.

So do refugee and asylum claims.

Why is it okay to ignore those laws just to enforce your other laws?
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 12:04:09 PM
#73:


Blighboy posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Borders serve a purpose; you may not like it but regulation is extremely convenient and when people skirt it, it's harder to enforce rules.

So do refugee and asylum claims.

Why is it okay to ignore those laws just to enforce your other laws?

They're being processed for asylum as refugees, the law is being enforced rather than letting people just walk through.
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Jen0125
07/16/19 12:55:20 PM
#74:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Where is your source for the claim that these people are released once they ask an immigration judge?

Where's your source judges are acting criminally, imprisoning foreign nationals indefinitely?


I didn't say judges were acting criminally. Nice deflection.
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Jen0125
07/16/19 12:56:20 PM
#75:


Is it just me or is kyuubi really not smart? Maybe you shouldn't discuss matters when you don't know the basics of what you're talking about?
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 12:59:26 PM
#76:


Jen0125 posted...

I didn't say judges were acting criminally. Nice deflection.

If the judges aren't acting criminally then the assumption is that they are acting properly and letting them leave. By saying the judges are not, you are in fact accusing them of acting criminally.

Jen0125 posted...
Is it just me or is kyuubi really not smart? Maybe you shouldn't discuss matters when you don't know the basics of what you're talking about?

This is a ballsy claim coming from you of all people, the Queen of baseless emotional appeals.
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Fazeo13
07/16/19 12:59:50 PM
#77:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Borders serve a purpose; you may not like it but regulation is extremely convenient and when people skirt it, it's harder to enforce rules.


What's to prevent the states they go to from turning into commiefornia? There is no stoppage to the illegals, so when the USA turns into mexico 2.0 eventually what's the point?

Think of it if you had your own house and I send 5 people to live there and then another 5 people ad infinitum until it becomes unsustainable. Less resources, less comfort etc etc would you be happy?
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Jen0125
07/16/19 1:05:05 PM
#78:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
If the judges aren't acting criminally then the assumption is that they are acting properly and letting them leave. By saying the judges are not, you are in fact accusing them of acting criminally.


I was literally just explaining to you that they can't just leave like you're saying. They need court approval. Whether or not a judge will approve it would depend on a variety of factors, not just being petitioned to leave. You are trying to put a sentiment in my comments that isn't there.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

This is a ballsy claim coming from you of all people, the Queen of baseless emotional appeals.


Again, please provide proof of this or stop saying it. You haven't provided any factual proof of any of your claims. At all.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 1:08:35 PM
#79:


Fazeo13 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Borders serve a purpose; you may not like it but regulation is extremely convenient and when people skirt it, it's harder to enforce rules.


What's to prevent the states they go to from turning into commiefornia? There is no stoppage to the illegals, so when the USA turns into mexico 2.0 eventually what's the point?

Think of it if you had your own house and I send 5 people to live there and then another 5 people ad infinitum until it becomes unsustainable. Less resources, less comfort etc etc would you be happy?

That isn't even a problem with a regulated border as more known people means held statistics to justify more homes, more businesses, more expansion.

Illegal immigration means fuzzy, and so unreliable, information.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 1:18:12 PM
#80:


Jen0125 posted...
I was literally just explaining to you that they can't just leave like you're saying. They need court approval. Whether or not a judge will approve it would depend on a variety of factors, not just being petitioned to leave.

The "variety of factors" are extenuating factors such as wether they've committed further crime. A totally legit refugee who wants to back out is 100% allowed to leave unless the judge acts illegally. Suggesting they might not be allowed to leave is suggesting either the refugee is suspect (not helping your case) or the judge is corrupt (supporting your agenda).

Give me an example where that isn't true.

Jen0125 posted...
Again, please provide proof of this or stop saying it. You haven't provided any factual proof of any of your claims. At all.

Your bleeding heart is self-evident, do you really expect me to pull a Zeus and flick through all your old posts to highlight all your most egregious examples of being emotionally-motivated?
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Jen0125
07/16/19 1:24:49 PM
#81:


Kyuubi4269 posted...

The "variety of factors" are extenuating factors such as wether they've committed further crime. A totally legit refugee who wants to back out is 100% allowed to leave unless the judge acts illegally. Suggesting they might not be allowed to leave is suggesting either the refugee is suspect (not helping your case) or the judge is corrupt (supporting your agenda).

Give me an example where that isn't true.


You said they're free to leave. I said they aren't. You keep trying to rubberband "lol proof" back to me without providing anything of your own. So there's no use going back and forth with you. Have a great day.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Your bleeding heart is self-evident, do you really expect me to pull a Zeus and flick through all your old posts to highlight all your most egregious examples of being emotionally-motivated?


Yes? Because you keep talking about it and misrepresenting past arguments?
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Doctor Foxx
07/16/19 1:25:21 PM
#82:


Free to leave

And be brought right back to the camp when they do

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2019/jul/10/michael-burgess/are-immigrant-children-free-leave-shelters-anytime/

But they're so so free
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VidGameGuy
07/16/19 1:51:25 PM
#83:


I don't get why everyone is spending so long debating this. This is politics, no matter how much you think you're right, you're not going to change the other side's minds.
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teddy241
07/16/19 2:08:31 PM
#84:


Im just so proud of Putin for meddling with the preaidential election. The greatest way to destroy a country like the u.s.a is to do it from within.

Putin is a VERY smart man and he knew trump in office would cause an america devided. I dont blame anyone but Putin for all of this. We are all just idiots playing his game.
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teddy241
07/16/19 2:09:53 PM
#85:


In my 34 years of existence this is the most divided iv ever seen my country. We need someone who is not trump step into office and unite this country. Stop pointing fingers and start holding everyone accountable.
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OhhhJa
07/16/19 2:15:59 PM
#86:


Jen0125 posted...
If you really think that's what is going on you need to stop reading Infowars.

Haha yeah... that's why the wealthiest elite in the world keep getting popped for child trafficking and prostitution... because it totally isnt clearly a carefully controlled big business at the highest level
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OhhhJa
07/16/19 2:19:17 PM
#87:


teddy241 posted...
In my 34 years of existence this is the most divided iv ever seen my country. We need someone who is not trump step into office and unite this country. Stop pointing fingers and start holding everyone accountable.

Haha the dividing is because of social media and the 24 hour news cycle. The divide was already huge while obama was in office and just keeps getting worse as both sides are increasingly radicalized
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 2:23:36 PM
#88:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Free to leave

And be brought right back to the camp when they do

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2019/jul/10/michael-burgess/are-immigrant-children-free-leave-shelters-anytime/

But they're so so free

Literally advocating for sending children out to the Mexican border alone.
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Doctor Foxx
07/16/19 2:33:37 PM
#89:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Free to leave

And be brought right back to the camp when they do

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2019/jul/10/michael-burgess/are-immigrant-children-free-leave-shelters-anytime/

But they're so so free

Literally advocating for sending children out to the Mexican border alone.

So what you're saying is they're not free to leave
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OhhhJa
07/16/19 2:50:28 PM
#90:


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

Great article. If you seriously believe the democrats support leaving the border vulnerable and pushing for illegal immigrants to be allowed to vote because they care about the families then lol. These politicians largely dont give a fuck about anything but lining their pockets
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Blighboy
07/16/19 2:58:20 PM
#91:


OhhhJa posted...
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

Great article. If you seriously believe the democrats support leaving the border vulnerable and pushing for illegal immigrants to be allowed to vote because they care about the families then lol. These politicians largely dont give a fuck about anything but lining their pockets

https://i.redd.it/sovxi3mpgv911.jpg
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OhhhJa
07/16/19 3:02:14 PM
#92:


Blighboy posted...
OhhhJa posted...
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

Great article. If you seriously believe the democrats support leaving the border vulnerable and pushing for illegal immigrants to be allowed to vote because they care about the families then lol. These politicians largely dont give a fuck about anything but lining their pockets

https://i.redd.it/sovxi3mpgv911.jpg

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I_Always_Die
07/16/19 3:20:03 PM
#93:


why do so many people think its sustainable for a country to let everyone in just because they came from hardship/a poor country?
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Mead
07/16/19 3:31:56 PM
#94:


VidGameGuy posted...
I don't get why everyone is spending so long debating this. This is politics, no matter how much you think you're right, you're not going to change the other side's minds.


Politics or not actual people are needlessly suffering through inhumane conditions. We should be better than that.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 3:34:44 PM
#95:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Free to leave

And be brought right back to the camp when they do

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2019/jul/10/michael-burgess/are-immigrant-children-free-leave-shelters-anytime/

But they're so so free

Literally advocating for sending children out to the Mexican border alone.

So what you're saying is they're not free to leave

Children don't have autonomy, no.
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Kyuubi4269
07/16/19 3:36:28 PM
#96:


Mead posted...
VidGameGuy posted...
I don't get why everyone is spending so long debating this. This is politics, no matter how much you think you're right, you're not going to change the other side's minds.


Politics or not actual people are needlessly suffering through inhumane conditions. We should be better than that.

Probably should stand up for increased funding in to better detainment facilities instead of trying to shame Trump by comparing him to Hitler for the millionth time.
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Mead
07/16/19 3:42:52 PM
#97:


theres no end to the whataboutism

they also can not stop themselves from talking about illegal immigrants, despite the fact that these asylum seekers have sought out ports of entry to enter the country through legal US asylum processes

Its almost like it has little todo with immigration and a lot more to do with them being a bunch of brown people

I mean a couple decades ago they all harped about how it was about immigrants stealing jobs but then that stopped being the case. Then it was that they dont pay taxes but reap benefits but in actuality they do pay most taxes and are denied many of the benefits of doing so, a little something called taxation without representation.

Now weve got folks who almost entirely are not illegal immigrants or even immigrants at all, theyre refugees and theyre pulling everything out of their ass to justify what at this point, is clearly nothing more than hateful xenophobia.
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Mead
07/16/19 3:45:14 PM
#98:


@Kyuubi4269 find a single post where I have compared Trump to Hitler

Better yet, find a library and read a few history books

theres no end to the whataboutism

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OhhhJa
07/16/19 4:17:26 PM
#99:


I_Always_Die posted...
why do so many people think its sustainable for a country to let everyone in just because they came from hardship/a poor country?

Its estimated that roughly 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants are currently living in the US. That's just under 10 percent of the population. That's not ideal for any country
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ASlaveObeys
07/16/19 4:19:03 PM
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So the gypsies who got rounded up for being illegal citizens during ww2 might fit better?
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