Board 8 > [BOST] Best OST Contest 5 - Announcement and Pre-Contest Discussion Thread

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Mac Arrowny posted...

How will you count things for Beatmania? Like, IIDX 25 has a bunch of DLC tracks for previous games included in it and on its OST. Could those count for 25

Thats kind of specifically one of things I had in mind with the song must be original to the game, otherwise stuff like jubeat saucer would just be absolutely stupid strong using stuff not actually from jubeat. So no, only completely new songs in the game, or new versions (City Never Sleeps okay, Douwa Kairou not, From Time to Time not). I actually am currently thinking very hard about a SINOBUZ list but its hard to pick stuff cause SINOBUZ is too stupid good lol, so if theres anything you think would be really really strong from that I will definitely take it into consideration. Right now DORNWALD long version is a lock, as is ECHIDNA long probably and possibly Quakes. Otherwise theres a lot of possibilities.

My experience playing PSO is that basically all the music is too BGM-ish to attract much interest.
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azuarc posted...

My experience playing PSO is that basically all the music is too BGM-ish to attract much interest.

Poor take tbh

I like Quakes.

Also for PSO, didn't a track from it retire at one point? IDOLA The Strange Fruits or Tower of Caelum?
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Flamander posted...

no say hello to bogey??

Excellent taste.
As much as I would love to include this in my nomination (trust me, I want to so bad), I am very antsy about having such a short track included in the setlist.

Re-listening to the soundtrack, I'm going to throw in Daylight and Sudden Death in as HMs. Wondering if they might do better than Lost World (or Scramble idk)
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PIayer_0 posted...

Sadly my knowledge of OSTs is significantly weaker compared to VGM, but I'll gladly support anything where I recognize a few songs.

Actually, there are some names I'm really hoping someone else will nominate, because I either don't know enough good songs, or don't want the responsibility of picking 7 representatives from a very consistent soundtrack! The first four have not been in before, and the rest have good song suggestions from past contests:
Celeste
Undertale
Ori and the Blind Forest
Nier: Automata
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
Any Super Smash
Okami

So, I guess I can follow up on this with some random personal suggestions for the first four (minus Celeste) just based on what I remember well. Still not sure about taking on the responsibility of nominating them myself due to lack of familiarity with the whole soundtrack or how to align it with B8 taste. The last three have been in multiple BOSTs so their previous appearances should provide enough suggestions (PMD 2 and Melee have "only" been in twice, but they seem well-known enough that someone can come up with a decent list).

Undertale: Megalovania, Asgore (not my favourite, but obligatory VGMC retiree), Hopes and Dreams, Core, Another Medium, Spear of Justice, Death by Glamour, Undertale
Ori and the Blind Forest: Light of Nibel, Restoring the Light, Facing the Dark (or Escaping the Ruins), Riding the Wind, Completing the Circle, Main Theme, The Spirit Tree
Nier: Automata: Amusement Park, Weight of the World, Alien Manifestation, City Ruins, Memories of Dust
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Okay, guess I'm doing this pairing today then. Here we go, Best OST: Toby Fox edition...

Nominate: Undertale
1. Megalovania
2. Hopes and Dreams
3. Undertale
4. ASGORE
5. Death by Glamour
6. Dummy!
Alt: Battle Against a True Hero
HM: Spider Dance, Another Medium, Spear of Justice

And yea, okay, maybe Core as P0 suggests above. But my only requirement for an Undertale list is Battle Against a True Hero has to be the alternate, because you can't beat that for artistic flourish. The song I'm really uncertain of is Undertale, because although it seems to be beloved, it's an incredibly context-driven piece and it doesn't work nearly as well for anyone who hasn't played it.

Nominate: Homestuck
1. Saviour of the Dreaming Dead
2. Sburban Jungle
3. Umbral Ultimatum
4. MeGaLoVania
5. Descend
6. Cascade
Alt. Black

Yeah, I'm gonna be that guy for a minute. Homestuck used to be VGMC-legal, back when I started BOST, so it's legal for BOST. I'm hardly the best person to formulate a list for it, but I think this created a facsimile of what a list for it should look like.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Also for PSO, didn't a track from it retire at one point? IDOLA The Strange Fruits or Tower of Caelum?

No. IDOLA The Strange Fruits made retirement round back in... VGMC2? but that's the closest it's ever gotten. But it also hasn't really gotten much of a shot since VGMC8. There as a PSO2 song in last year but other than that it vanished.

PIayer_0 posted...

Nier: Automata: Amusement Park, Weight of the World, Alien Manifestation, City Ruins, Memories of Dust

For Nier: Automata I'd say Amusement Park, Weight of the World (version debate would be something. I'd cast my lot in for the Japanese version personally), Birth of a Wish (Become As Gods), and A Beautiful Song would be the top 4. After that it's a bit trickier. You'd have a healthy debate around (not really in any order) Bipolar Nightmare, Copied City, Sound of the End, The Tower, Emil (Despair), Grandma (Destruction), Dark Colossus, Song of the Ancients (Atonement), Dependent Weakling, Memories of Dust, and City Ruins.

which is to say a lot and it could be tough to figure out the "best" choices.

for the azuarc special you obviously nominate all 4 variants of amusement park individually
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Become As Gods version of Birth of a Wish did terribly. Why would you pick that again? Final Ver. would definitely do the best of them

My top five for the game would be: Grandma (Destruction), Birth of a Wish (Final Ver), Alien Manifestation, Dependent Weakling, and Amusement Park. Personally speaking, at least.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Become As Gods version of Birth of a Wish did terribly. Why would you pick that again?

hope springs eternal

But I wouldn't be opposed to your suggestion there lol.
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Okay, I'll admit I tried compiling a Smash and a Brawl list, and I fell short of the songs needed. Not that there aren't plenty to choose from, but that's the problem. After you get past the top tier tracks, I wasn't sure where to go.

So instead, I'm going to shift gears and stop with the "hey, somebody should nominate this" and instead post some very me soundtracks today.

Nominate: Dungeon Fighter Online
1. Wind of You
2. Morgan Battle
3. Hamelin
4. We Are Desperado
5. Tower of Despair Lower Floor
6. GBL Goddess Temple
Alt. Fly High (ft SeeN)
HM: PvP 01, U.S. Log-in Screen, probably many others (I like Silver Crown and Shonen, but they didn't do well before)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY&list=PLW9O9mntH1RFRrdn_zXrssqcpmUIp0rRf&index=19&t=0s

Considering this is a list I might actually nominate, I'm open to suggestions. In particular, I'm really not sure what to put in the 3 slot to round out the upper half. Granted, I may be getting ahead of myself thinking a game will get that far when only the top ~24 are going to even play a fourth track, but we all want the best list possible, I hope.

Nominate: Child of Light
1. Aurora's Theme
2. Hymn of Light
3. Patches of Sky
4. Off to Sleep
5. Pilgrims on a Long Journey
6. Magna's Heart
Alt. Metal Gleamed in the Twilight
HM: Little Girl Gen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byz6960tWxQ&list=PLW9O9mntH1RFRrdn_zXrssqcpmUIp0rRf&index=73&t=0s

Man, this is a weird list. The choices, the ordering. Patches is only top 3 by virtue of beating Xenoblade back in BOST4, a feat no other opponent could do short of the finals. I'm open to just about everything besides Bolmus Populi.

Nominate: Lineage 2
1. After the Storm
2. Shepherd's Flute
3. The Final Decisive Battle
4. Forest Calling
5. Magma Town
6. The Call of Destiny
Alt. Temple of the Moon
Wild card: The Beginning of Gracia

Someone tell me what they think about Gracia --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzq0rBIc7A" data-time="

It's a weirdly uneven track. Strong beginning, strong finish, sagging middle. I can't tell if it's actually good or not. Otherwise, I think this is a pretty decent list. I cut Dream of Peace because that was an awful performance.
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Had a lot of fun compiling a set for League of Legends, but then I realized its eligibility might not actually carry over from VGMC...I did make sure to stick to the login themes that play when you open up the game client, which is kind of like the "main menu" for getting to the actual game? Even so, each login theme only lasts a couple months before the next one takes its place, so not sure what the verdict would be for this. Anyway, I have a list so just gonna share it here for now.

League of Legends
1. ARCADE 2019: ULTRACOMBO
2. Taliyah, the Stoneweaver
3. Ekko, the Boy Who Shattered Time
4. Warriors (World Championship 2014)
5. Irelia, the Blade Dancer
6. Gun Goddess Miss Fortune
Alt: DJ Sona Kinetic
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt96v3LAfrDYiHvHQKVuA76M7F4ZXru6X

Vocals wildcards: POP/STARS, Endless Starlight (Japan release), Worlds Collide (World Championship 2015)
No idea how B8 would enjoy K-pop and fake anime.
Other swaps: PROJECT: Hunters, Jhin, Camille, Kindred, Aurelion Sol
So many good champion themes left out...I'm just not convinced they'd work in a contest setting.
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I don't know LoL super well but the Neeko login theme might do well on board 8? Kind of reminds of Ori and the Blind Forest which I think is generally well liked?

I only know like half the songs you posted though and the ones I do know are probably better picks so...who knows? (The ones I know from the main list are Irelia, Ekko, and Taliyah.)
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PIayer_0 posted...

Had a lot of fun compiling a set for League of Legends, but then I realized its eligibility might not actually carry over from VGMC...I did make sure to stick to the login themes that play when you open up the game client, which is kind of like the "main menu" for getting to the actual game? Even so, each login theme only lasts a couple months before the next one takes its place, so not sure what the verdict would be for this. Anyway, I have a list so just gonna share it here for now.

Why would that be a problem? The songs are from the games, right? They didn't originate somewhere else?
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Since yesterday was some "me" soundtracks, might as well...

Nominate: Divinity: Original Sin 2
1. Rivellon
2. Main Theme
3. Sing For Me (Lohse version)
4. Amber Ale
5. A Part of Their Story
6. The Battle for Divinity
Alt. Embrace of the Deathfog
HM: The Queens High Seas, Mead Gold and Blood

Dunno what chance DOS2 has since I don't think it's a particularly board-friendly list, but I like it.

Nominate: Tyrian
1. Camanis
2. Space Journey 2
3. Space Journey 1
4. Rock Garden
5. Gryphons of the West
6. Return Me to Savara
Alt. Sarah's Song
HM: Tyrian The Song, Tyrian The Level, Asteroid Dance 1, Asteroid Dance 2

One of my first favorite games to just listen to the sound test.

Nominate: Final Fantasy Adventure
1. Legend Forever
2. In Search of the Sacred Sword
3. Courage and Pride From the Heart (Battle 2)
4. Final Battle
5. Rising Sun
6. Endless Battlefield
Alt. Let Thoughts Ride on Knowledge
HM: Fight 1

You knew I'd eventually mention a Seiken Densetsu game. You probably didn't expect it to be SD1. Yeah, gameboy original version. The remake might have higher fidelity, but the arrangements suck.
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I wouldn't mind Neeko's login and think it has potential, though it's kinda similar to Taliyah's. I'd personally cut Ekko for it but that's the only one that's been in VGMC, plus seems like it'd be fairly recognizable.

azuarc posted...

PIayer_0 posted...

Had a lot of fun compiling a set for League of Legends, but then I realized its eligibility might not actually carry over from VGMC...I did make sure to stick to the login themes that play when you open up the game client, which is kind of like the "main menu" for getting to the actual game? Even so, each login theme only lasts a couple months before the next one takes its place, so not sure what the verdict would be for this. Anyway, I have a list so just gonna share it here for now.

Why would that be a problem? The songs are from the games, right? They didn't originate somewhere else?

Well, I was trying to be cautious around the "accessible from in-game" eligibility. The themes are done by their music team specifically for the game client, which only validates your account and finds other players before launching the actual match in another application. That might not be considered part of the game itself, since I wouldn't exactly say the songs are soundtracks for the game of League (more like the lore and world it's built upon).
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3) For Round 1, a random song from songs 1, 2, or 3 in the game's lineup will be used. This is randomized per game per match, so Round 1 could be a song 1 against a song 3. Winners Round 2 will be randomized from the remaining two songs, and Winners Round 3 will use the final of these songs. The process repeats for songs 4, 5, and 6 in Winners Rounds 4 through Winners Round 6 (Winners Finals). This process will help the progression of strength in the contest, while deterring "gaming the system" during the nomination process.

I have a proposed adjustment. To make it more fair, I think each OST should have two representatives participate per round. In other words, two matches for each OST matchup. Yeah, I know the Loser's Bracket is supposed to benefit those the OST's that get unlucky draws, but I still think having two matches per OST per round would be really helpful, in addition to having the loser's bracket. Granted, this means we have twice as many matches.... so we either have a big contest OR we cut the number of OST's in half.

And that leads to yet another idea: let's have the bracket consist of 32 OST's that have NOT been in a previous contest, rather than 64 OST's consisting of both vets and rookies.
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Haste2 with some amazing suggestions.
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I don't know how League works, but I would imagine a log-in screen would be part of the game.
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If there are two matches per real match, is it a tie if the matches have opposite winners? If so, it seems like there might be a lot of ties.
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Lol, ah, crap. Silly me. I guess we'd have to do three matches per OST per round!

Edit: Ah, I have a solution. we can still do two matches per day. Instead of just noting the match results, ties are broken by the game OST with more total votes. Thus, if SMB Overworld beats Victory Fanfare by 8 votes, but Still More Fighting beats SMB Underground by 10 votes, then FF7 beats SMB by eight minus two = two votes.
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Haste_2 posted...

I have a proposed adjustment. To make it more fair, I think each OST should have two representatives participate per round. In other words, two matches for each OST matchup. Yeah, I know the Loser's Bracket is supposed to benefit those the OST's that get unlucky draws, but I still think having two matches per OST per round would be really helpful, in addition to having the loser's bracket. Granted, this means we have twice as many matches.... so we either have a big contest OR we cut the number of OST's in half.

I feel like doing this would basically replace the loser's bracket, because if it's the safety net, then we don't really need a loser's bracket. Plus they both double the number of matches that take place. The question I have with this is, though, what happens when the matches split 1-1? You have to imagine, that will happen often, and if you say "oh, then have a tiebreaker match," then suddenly the alternate becomes the most important track on your setlist.

I mean, sure, you could do it as a total votecount between the two matches, but then it becomes a matter of games losing badly because of one misstep. Let's say Chrono Cross uses Magical Dreamers and everyone decides that day that they hate it. It's a reasonable pick, but I've seen the song get gangbanged before. It doesn't even matter that there's a second match taking place, unless it crushes by the same degree as the first song loses.

Not saying this isn't a neat idea, but I don't think it makes sense logistically.

Haste_2 posted...

And that leads to yet another idea: let's have the bracket consist of 32 OST's that have NOT been in a previous contest, rather than 64 OST's consisting of both vets and rookies.

This would be reasonable if BOST had run any time in the previous 5 years. For most of us here, this will actually be our first Best OST Contest.
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Maybe we could make it a real OST contest and have matches be best of 7.
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I'm re-posting an edit I made:

Edit: Ah, I have a solution. we can still do two matches per day. Instead of just noting the match results, ties are broken by the game OST with more total votes. Thus, if SMB Overworld beats Victory Fanfare by 8 votes, but Still More Fighting beats SMB Underground by 10 votes, then FF7 beats SMB by eight minus two = two votes.

I mean, sure, you could do it as a total votecount between the two matches, but then it becomes a matter of games losing badly because of one misstep. Let's say Chrono Cross uses Magical Dreamers and everyone decides that day that they hate it. It's a reasonable pick, but I've seen the song get gangbanged before. It doesn't even matter that there's a second match taking place, unless it crushes by the same degree as the first song loses.

I see no issue with this. If a rep sucks that badly, the OST doesn't really deserve to do well.

This would be reasonable if BOST had run any time in the previous 5 years. For most of us here, this will actually be our first Best OST Contest.

Okay, then we can just 32 OSTs regardless of whether they're rookies or vets... it doesn't matter to me.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

If there are two matches per real match, is it a tie if the matches have opposite winners? If so, it seems like there might be a lot of ties.

You wouldn't vote twice, you'd just vote once. So you'd have like:

FFVII: Aeris Theme and One Winged Angel
vs.
Undertale: Asgore and Megalovania

And you'd vote for FFVII or Undertale based on which pair of songs you like better.
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That could work, too.
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Haste_2 posted...

I see no issue with this. If a rep sucks that badly, the OST doesn't really deserve to do well.

Or the nominator chose poorly. There are a lot of people who grab their pitchforks when you suggest that the success of a nomination should be tied to how well the songs are chosen (even though there's a certain level of this that is obvious.)

Mac Arrowny posted...

You wouldn't vote twice, you'd just vote once. So you'd have like:

FFVII: Aeris Theme and One Winged Angel
vs.
Undertale: Asgore and Megalovania

And you'd vote for FFVII or Undertale based on which pair of songs you like better.

I'm pretty sure I would hate this. If your song preference goes A1 > B1 > B2 > A2, making that call becomes really difficult.
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Or the nominator chose poorly. There are a lot of people who grab their pitchforks when you suggest that the success of a nomination should be tied to how well the songs are chosen (even though there's a certain level of this that is obvious.)

Having twice as many matches mitigates this problem, though.
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azuarc posted...

I'm pretty sure I would hate this. If your song preference goes A1 > B1 > B2 > A2, making that call becomes really difficult.

How so? Can't you say which OSTs you prefer in general? I mean, can you not decide which OST is better between FFVII and Undertale in general, even though you probably like some songs from each more than some other songs from each?
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Mac Arrowny posted...

azuarc posted...

I'm pretty sure I would hate this. If your song preference goes A1 > B1 > B2 > A2, making that call becomes really difficult.

How so? Can't you say which OSTs you prefer in general? I mean, can you not decide which OST is better between FFVII and Undertale in general, even though you probably like some songs from each more than some other songs from each?

which ost do you prefer, Finding Nemo: The Continuing Adventures or Eragon for the PS2?

it's not supposed to be a popularity contest
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I'd have to listen to the songs from both to decide.

And what do you mean, not a popularity contest? The more popular song wins each round in VGMC. Is this somehow different?
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the point of either isn't for the more well-known, popular game to win. the songs should win on their own merit alone. it's been implicit since the beginning that BOST wasn't a contest to find the "Best OST"; you can't expect matches to be settled based on prior knowledge of the soundtracks as a whole
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Yes, obviously. And because of that, an ideal contest would have all voters listening to both complete OSTs before voting in a match. Unfortunately, listening to whole OSTs is too much, but listening to two songs is perfectly reasonable.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Unfortunately, listening to whole OSTs is too much, but listening to two songs is perfectly reasonable.

Mac Arrowny posted...

How so? Can't you say which OSTs you prefer in general?

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Yes, when you're already familiar with them. For example, I've listened to the full OSTs of FFVII and Undertale, so I can say which I prefer. But it's not reasonable to expect everyone to have listened to both of those OSTs in their entirety.
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Right, but you're not supposed to substitute "extra" knowledge in BOST, just vote on the actual matches in front of you.

If OSTs A and B put up matches where the songs to me are a 4.0 v 5.0, I'm not supposed to go, "Well, I think that 4.0 selection was a terrible choice by the nominator, I'm just going to mentally sub-in another song from it that I think is an 8.5" to give it the win even if I'm familiar enough with both OSTs to know I like OST A more.

The "popularity contest" part of it comes into play where there are some OSTs that are more likely to have been heard by people than others, so if you permit that kind of reasoning, they gain an unfair advantage.
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azuarc posted...

Mac Arrowny posted...

You wouldn't vote twice, you'd just vote once. So you'd have like:

FFVII: Aeris Theme and One Winged Angel
vs.
Undertale: Asgore and Megalovania

And you'd vote for FFVII or Undertale based on which pair of songs you like better.

I'm pretty sure I would hate this. If your song preference goes A1 > B1 > B2 > A2, making that call becomes really difficult.

Welp, that's not good for the suggestion I wanna make, but I'll share it anyway since this is an interesting discussion that could result in something good. I was thinking that new songs could come in on a continuing basis, so instead of a game competing with, say, song 3 in the first round followed by song 1 replacing it in the second round, it would be song 3 in the first round, then song 1+song 3 in the second round, then song 2+song 1+song 3, and so on. I understand that results would be the most accurate if people just listened to all 6 representatives every round, but it's probably too much for many of our potential voters. However, I do think that people can vaguely remember songs once they've listened to them, or at least how much they liked them, so it wouldn't seem too bad to just vote based on past songs in addition to the newly introduced song (some people may have already been voting this way in the BOSTs of old). The size of this contest would be equivalent to starting in round 3 of VGMC 13, and I usually found myself saying "oh hey, it's this song from round 3" once we got to round 4.
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That's a neat idea too, Player_0.

xp1337 posted...

Right, but you're not supposed to substitute "extra" knowledge in BOST, just vote on the actual matches in front of you.

If OSTs A and B put up matches where the songs to me are a 4.0 v 5.0, I'm not supposed to go, "Well, I think that 4.0 selection was a terrible choice by the nominator, I'm just going to mentally sub-in another song from it that I think is an 8.5" to give it the win even if I'm familiar enough with both OSTs to know I like OST A more.

Yes, that's exactly what I said. We can't vote based on other songs. Only the songs that are there. Not sure what I said that you're disagreeing with.
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I see. You meant that you should be able to decide which pair of songs is better even if your ratings are mixed, and instead of citing determining which OST of a pair you like better as an example of where you do that, you said to do that
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Not sure what I said that you're disagreeing with.

That the ability to like one OST more than the other directly translates into being able to resolve azuarc's A1 > B1 > B2 > A2 thing. It doesn't really scale down to that level well IMO.

Let's suppose OST A puts up songs I think are a 9.0 and a 4.0 and OST B puts up songs that I think are a 6.0 and a 7.0. They both add up to the same thing. If they were direct matches I'd split them 1-1. Just because in totality I know I like one OST more than the other doesn't really help me here because I can't use that information so that ability isn't exactly helpful here in this sample size. I guess the "solution" if you're forced to only vote for one OST is to abstain but I think that's the problem azuarc is getting at.

If these were literally two song OSTs I probably reluctantly say I prefer B because at least it manages to keep both songs above a 5, but they're not actually going to be two-song OSTs in reality and I don't think pretending they are is something we should do.

Trying to work with an even number of matches (or a 4n case if you insist on not treating them as individual matches but something to be judged in totality) is just going to add needless frustration IMO.
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Ah, sorry xp, guess I worded that confusingly. My example was just like this:

If you can decide which OST you like better after listening to all of the tracks on both OSTs, you should also be able to decide which two songs you like better after listening to all of the tracks in the match.

The two-song OST example is a good one. What we're doing now is pretending each OST is one track. My suggestion was to pretend the OSTs are two tracks. Obviously people don't like that suggestion, but I thought it was an interesting alternative. That's all.

NFUN posted...

I see. You meant that you should be able to decide which pair of songs is better even if your ratings are mixed, and instead of citing determining which OST of a pair you like better as an example of where you do that, you said to do that

Sorry if that didn't come through? Hopefully you understand what I was getting at now.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

If....you should also be able to decide which two songs you like better after listening to all of the tracks in the match.

I think there are a lot of cases where I will not be able to decide on a tag team of songs regardless of what circumstances I came into the match with. A binary vote on 2v2 is going to give me a ton of consternation.

Now, an alternative would be to have so many points to assign to the four songs. Maybe you get 12 points and you can split them even 3's or you can put up to 6 on one song. But then tabulating votes becomes complicated and the way people split their points inconsistently becomes an issue.
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On a bit of a weekend outing so I havent read the discussion in detail, so sorry Im not contributing at the moment. Ill be able to read it all and give my thoughts in a few days.

This was supposed to happen last night until I accidentally clicked an ad on mobile and my half-awake hard work went to waste, but it is now one week until nominations begin! If youre unsure or havent thought about it, nows the time to get working on what you want to lead off with!

While I havent been able to read much thoroughly, that Final Fantasy Adventure proposal is definitely something I can get behind...

not going to do this every day of week two, as well, but I can keep going...

Nominate: Dynasty Warriors 7
1. The Last Battle
2. Thousand Suns
3. Trick and Magic
4. Glory
5. Teary Edge
6. The Salvation
Alt. Withdrawal
HM: Epic Man, Male Roar, Over the Limit

It did well in year 3, with someone else at the helm. I don't think the board has any real diehard DW fans with nio gone. I haven't touched one since...well, probably not since BOST3. The ordering on this list might be completely out of whack. I know Nio included some other track I didn't give a ghost of a chance to, and it won its round.

Nominate: Super Meat Boy (original)
1. Dr Fetus' Castle
2. The Battle of Lil' Slugger
3. Betus Blues
4. Forest Funk
5. Rocket Rider
6. Ballad of the Burning Squirrel
Alt. C.H.A.D.'s Lullaby

There's room to make this list differently. I'm not a fan of Carmeaty Burana. It Ends and Can O' Salt don't strike me, personally, as nearly as good. But hey, what do I know? This game has not appeared in BOST, surprisingly.

Crusader Kings 2
1. Main Theme
2. Saladin Arrives at Jerusalem
3. The Persian Army
4. The Byzantine Empire
5. Horns of Hattin and Aftermath
6. Journey to Absolution
Alt. ???

I had a list for this with a few extras back during BOST4. Sadly, all the DLC songs appear to have been taken down from YouTube, so I'm honestly not sure how to make this list. @Zyxyz0 ?

And finally...

Nominate: Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin!
1. Vol.1 - 35 (Bodhisattva Kill)
2. Vol.1 - 03
3. Vol.2 - 05
4. Vol.2 - 08 Fiercest Warrior
5. Vol.1 - 29
6. Vol.2 - 06
Alt. ???

I listened to the OST once, tabbed 6 songs a long time ago, and said here we go. I have no idea how any of these songs translate. (Except Fiercest Warrior, which is spelled out in English for some reason.) There's definitely some cool tracks on here, though. Is anyone thinking of nominating anything from Yakuza?
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this is a placeholder for now cuz i dont fully understand all of the rules yet but hoping to nominate Spark: The Electric Jester and Dariusburst Chronicle Saviours (assuming that is allowed to count everything in the game including the previous versions of Dariusburst)

Plasman posted...

(assuming that is allowed to count everything in the game including the previous versions of Dariusburst)

If I'm reading this the way that I think you mean, then no. Only songs that debut in that game. Remixes of old songs are okay, though.
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Another potential nomination of mine. I'd like some input on this one (will check this topic later tonight probably) because this is a very weird soundtrack and it is very hard to decide on songs for this. This is my preliminary setlist, but basically everything on it is subject to change.

Game: Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories
1: Seto Kaiba -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_IYjRURxfE" data-time="
2: Final's Match -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLLHuCQLD5w" data-time="
3: Free Duel -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfe7-iPFo6A" data-time="
4: Sea Shrine -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItLscdEB6X4" data-time="
5: Mage Duel -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HWttfBAvIA" data-time="
6: Library Menu -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Ko71xYx18" data-time="
Alt: 3D Battle -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyxbHbNA2Wk" data-time="

HM: Forest Shrine (or any of the other Shrine tracks in place of Sea Shrine)
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@Plasman I actually posted a DB list a bit ago! I was definitey going to nominate this at some point somewhere towards the end, but if you beat me to it I definitely wont complain lol. Theres not much that would be a dealbreaker for this besides Freedom lol

banshiryuu posted...

Game: Dariusburst
1: The world of spirit [OG]
2: Hello 31337 [OG]
3: Suite Photoconductivity ~Third Tune: Bolt and Sword~ [AC]
4: Good-bye my earth [OG]
5: Splendid Form [CS]
6: Trials and Tribulations [SP]
Alt: Catabolism [ACEX]
HM: Hinder Four [OG], Suite Photoconductivity ~First Tune: Iron Fossil~ [AC], Suite Photoconductivity ~Fifth Tune: Tyrant~ [AC], Shining Eyes [CS]

@banshiryuu nah, assuming it's ok to have it be the separate parts like that, that's a totally fine list pretty much, my only minor things are personally not actually loving Hello 31337 that much, but at the same time it probably does make sense for it to be high either way - and maybe idk replace Trials and Tribulations with Shining Eyes? Idk I'm personally a big fan of the latter

But otherwise this is a really good list and im fine w/ these choices

still haven't started putting noms together just yet unfortunately (hoping I'll find the time to start in on it tomorrow), but just popping in real quick to address this:

azuarc posted...

Crusader Kings 2
1. Main Theme
2. Saladin Arrives at Jerusalem
3. The Persian Army
4. The Byzantine Empire
5. Horns of Hattin and Aftermath
6. Journey to Absolution
Alt. ???

I had a list for this with a few extras back during BOST4. Sadly, all the DLC songs appear to have been taken down from YouTube, so I'm honestly not sure how to make this list. @Zyxyz0 ?

The good news is, it turns out that CK2 keeps its music in unprotected mp3 files in the game folder, including DLC tracks! Bad news is, I'm too much of a cheapskate and don't actually own most of the music DLC packs myself :V Anyone here have some they could upload?
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