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Kazi1212 07/02/19 2:20:42 AM #51:	Just because CE has an axe to grind with the TC doesnt mean hes in the wrong here. Government jobs have very strict guidelines for their job application process, it is absolutely unfair to TC they request he resubmit his application differently than the other candidates because of an IT issue on THEIR end. TC, you can and should file a complaint about this imo --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:924130830] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Just because CE has an axe to grind with the TC doesnt mean hes in the wrong here. Government jobs have very strict guidelines for their job application process, it is absolutely unfair to TC they request he resubmit his application differently than the other candidates because of an IT issue on THEIR end. TC, you can and should file a complaint about this imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkeysRfunny 07/02/19 2:24:37 AM #52:	Sorry TC, you're being unreasonable in this fictional scenario. --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. <cite>monkeysRfunny posted [p:924130914] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Sorry TC, you're being unreasonable in this fictional scenario.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 2:29:25 AM #53:	Kazi1212 posted... Just because CE has an axe to grind with the TC doesnt mean hes in the wrong here. Government jobs have very strict guidelines for their job application process, it is absolutely unfair to TC they request he resubmit his application differently than the other candidates because of an IT issue on THEIR end. TC, you can and should file a complaint about this imo thank you, glad someone gets it monkeysRfunny posted... Sorry TC, you're being unreasonable in this fictional scenario. im willing to listen, but you have to actually explain to me why --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924130998] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Just because CE has an axe to grind with the TC doesnt mean hes in the wrong here. Government jobs have very strict guidelines for their job application process, it is absolutely unfair to TC they request he resubmit his application differently than the other candidates because of an IT issue on THEIR end. TC, you can and should file a complaint about this imo</quote> thank you, glad someone gets it <cite>monkeysRfunny posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry TC, you're being unreasonable in this fictional scenario.</quote> im willing to listen, but you have to actually explain to me why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 07/02/19 2:34:50 AM #54:	No_U_L7 posted... Simply because I'm standing up for myself. I dont want to be someone who does things just because they are told, when it's not right. Where do you draw the line? When a cop stops you on the street and asks for your ID, do you comply? I wouldn't, that's illegal. I dont want to be someone that simply follows the path of least resistance. Everything I do is calculated. There are rules and regulations in place and it simply isnt right for the bar to be raised only for me. If this was a private job I'd agree, they can do whatever the fuck they want. But this is the US government...its built on the rights of the people and equality. You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:924131101] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote>Simply because I'm standing up for myself. I dont want to be someone who does things just because they are told, when it's not right. Where do you draw the line? When a cop stops you on the street and asks for your ID, do you comply? I wouldn't, that's illegal. I dont want to be someone that simply follows the path of least resistance. Everything I do is calculated. There are rules and regulations in place and it simply isnt right for the bar to be raised only for me. If this was a private job I'd agree, they can do whatever the fuck they want. But this is the US government...its built on the rights of the people and equality.</quote> You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 2:38:46 AM #55:	Grischnak posted... You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck. i can't think of it as trivial, i'm thinking of it as right and wrong. it is simply wrong of them to do it that way. the more you compromise, the more you change. no one who is a pushover thinks of themselves as a pushover and they probably didn't start out that soft...it happens over time and starts with a single compromise. i'd rather succeed or fail based off my beliefs, and what i believe to be right/wrong. i may cost myself the job...but if i do you better believe i'm going to complain to HR HQ and if need be I will sue them. simply because its right and all im doing is standing up for my rights. Hopefully the hiring manager will realize i'm right and that it's not worth the risk of getting fired to not allow me to apply online. --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924131185] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote>You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck.</quote> i can't think of it as trivial, i'm thinking of it as right and wrong. it is simply wrong of them to do it that way. the more you compromise, the more you change. no one who is a pushover thinks of themselves as a pushover and they probably didn't start out that soft...it happens over time and starts with a single compromise. i'd rather succeed or fail based off my beliefs, and what i believe to be right/wrong. i may cost myself the job...but if i do you better believe i'm going to complain to HR HQ and if need be I will sue them. simply because its right and all im doing is standing up for my rights. Hopefully the hiring manager will realize i'm right and that it's not worth the risk of getting fired to not allow me to apply online.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 07/02/19 2:39:35 AM #56:	You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:924131204] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkeysRfunny 07/02/19 2:40:03 AM #57:	Well I mean why would you say that you'll try not to take it personally that the manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants if the only problem was with the number who applied? Not having enough people has literally to do with you, so why in the hell would you take it personally? That was one tip off that this was just made up BS. The other was the fact that you waited 3 months earlier, but now you can't wait 2 weeks? At any rate, even if this was legit, you've screwed yourself over by acting holier than thou. They said that they would get back to you, so all you can do is wait. Wait, that's not true... you could also apply in person or mail an application! But no, that's beneath you. --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. <cite>monkeysRfunny posted [p:924131212] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Well I mean why would you say that you'll try not to take it personally that the manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants if the only problem was with the number who applied? Not having enough people has literally to do with you, so why in the hell would you take it personally? That was one tip off that this was just made up BS. The other was the fact that you waited 3 months earlier, but now you can't wait 2 weeks? At any rate, even if this was legit, you've screwed yourself over by acting holier than thou. They said that they would get back to you, so all you can do is wait. Wait, that's not true... you could also apply in person or mail an application! But no, that's beneath you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkeysRfunny 07/02/19 2:41:37 AM #58:	No_U_L7 posted... Grischnak posted... You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck. i can't think of it as trivial, i'm thinking of it as right and wrong. it is simply wrong of them to do it that way. the more you compromise, the more you change. no one who is a pushover thinks of themselves as a pushover and they probably didn't start out that soft...it happens over time and starts with a single compromise. i'd rather succeed or fail based off my beliefs, and what i believe to be right/wrong. i may cost myself the job...but if i do you better believe i'm going to complain to HR HQ and if need be I will sue them. simply because its right and all im doing is standing up for my rights. Hopefully the hiring manager will realize i'm right and that it's not worth the risk of getting fired to not allow me to apply online. lmfaooooo --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. <cite>monkeysRfunny posted [p:924131245] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote>You're "standing up for yourself" by potentially costing yourself a job over a trivial problem? ...Ok. Good luck.</quote> i can't think of it as trivial, i'm thinking of it as right and wrong. it is simply wrong of them to do it that way. the more you compromise, the more you change. no one who is a pushover thinks of themselves as a pushover and they probably didn't start out that soft...it happens over time and starts with a single compromise. i'd rather succeed or fail based off my beliefs, and what i believe to be right/wrong. i may cost myself the job...but if i do you better believe i'm going to complain to HR HQ and if need be I will sue them. simply because its right and all im doing is standing up for my rights. Hopefully the hiring manager will realize i'm right and that it's not worth the risk of getting fired to not allow me to apply online.</quote> lmfaooooo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 2:44:58 AM #59:	008Zulu posted... You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills. did you read the topic? i think you totally misunderstood the topic. read it again. i literally have the highest possible credentials in my field. that isn't the issue monkeysRfunny posted... Well I mean why would you say that you'll try not to take it personally that the manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants if the only problem was with the number who applied? Not having enough people has literally to do with you, so why in the hell would you take it personally? That was one tip off that this was just made up BS. The other was the fact that you waited 3 months earlier, but now you can't wait 2 weeks? At any rate, even if this was legit, you've screwed yourself over by acting holier than thou. They said that they would get back to you, so all you can do is wait. Wait, that's not true... you could also apply in person or mail an application! But no, that's beneath you. 1. "i'll try not to take it personally" was sarscasm 2. i don't take it personally, because as i mentioned i literally have the highest level of credentials possible in my field...i was definitely one of the qualified people in the pool...and that's not even up for debate 3. i think you misread the "waiting" part. i did wait the entire week and now applications are due end of this wk with a major holiday on thursday and a lot of staff taking wed/fri off 4. i'm not acting holier than thou...by definition i'm literally just trying to be on equal footing with other applicants...by having the right to apply online --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924131312] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills.</quote> did you read the topic? i think you totally misunderstood the topic. read it again. i literally have the highest possible credentials in my field. that isn't the issue <cite>monkeysRfunny posted...</cite> <quote>Well I mean why would you say that you'll try not to take it personally that the manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants if the only problem was with the number who applied? Not having enough people has literally to do with you, so why in the hell would you take it personally? That was one tip off that this was just made up BS. The other was the fact that you waited 3 months earlier, but now you can't wait 2 weeks? At any rate, even if this was legit, you've screwed yourself over by acting holier than thou. They said that they would get back to you, so all you can do is wait. Wait, that's not true... you could also apply in person or mail an application! But no, that's beneath you.</quote> 1. "i'll try not to take it personally" was sarscasm 2. i don't take it personally, because as i mentioned i literally have the highest level of credentials possible in my field...i was definitely one of the qualified people in the pool...and that's not even up for debate 3. i think you misread the "waiting" part. i did wait the entire week and now applications are due end of this wk with a major holiday on thursday and a lot of staff taking wed/fri off 4. i'm not acting holier than thou...by definition i'm literally just trying to be on equal footing with other applicants...by having the right to apply online</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/02/19 2:45:36 AM #60:	So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924131326] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 07/02/19 2:47:22 AM #61:	I'm familiar with a lot of Union shit and this seems very similar to how a lot of promotions/transfers are set up in that environment too. They're not allowed to take being annoying into consideration. They hire by very strict guidelines that usually include seniority and qualifications as the deciding factors. It's set up to try and avoid favoritism. Anyway, was the person that you talked to aware of how things work? Do you guys have anything similar to a union rep that makes sure this is taken care of properly? It would make more sense to keep anyone qualified from the first batch and add them into the second batch but lol govt work. --- PSN: Jiek FFRK: Tyro God Wall KZcv <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:924131352] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>I'm familiar with a lot of Union shit and this seems very similar to how a lot of promotions/transfers are set up in that environment too. They're not allowed to take being annoying into consideration. They hire by very strict guidelines that usually include seniority and qualifications as the deciding factors. It's set up to try and avoid favoritism. Anyway, was the person that you talked to aware of how things work? Do you guys have anything similar to a union rep that makes sure this is taken care of properly? It would make more sense to keep anyone qualified from the first batch and add them into the second batch but lol govt work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 2:49:56 AM #62:	Jiek_Fafn posted... I'm familiar with a lot of Union shit and this seems very similar to how a lot of promotions/transfers are set up in that environment too. They're not allowed to take being annoying into consideration. They hire by very strict guidelines that usually include seniority and qualifications as the deciding factors. It's set up to try and avoid favoritism. Anyway, was the person that you talked to aware of how things work? Do you guys have anything similar to a union rep that makes sure this is taken care of properly? It would make more sense to keep anyone qualified from the first batch and add them into the second batch but lol govt work. dude, i'm super relieved you get it lol the person i talked to was the HR rep for their division, he should know the protocol...but who knows. i guess i can talk to...my HR rep but idk if she'll be able to do anything about it --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924131409] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jiek_Fafn posted...</cite> <quote>I'm familiar with a lot of Union shit and this seems very similar to how a lot of promotions/transfers are set up in that environment too. They're not allowed to take being annoying into consideration. They hire by very strict guidelines that usually include seniority and qualifications as the deciding factors. It's set up to try and avoid favoritism. Anyway, was the person that you talked to aware of how things work? Do you guys have anything similar to a union rep that makes sure this is taken care of properly? It would make more sense to keep anyone qualified from the first batch and add them into the second batch but lol govt work.</quote> dude, i'm super relieved you get it lol the person i talked to was the HR rep for their division, he should know the protocol...but who knows. i guess i can talk to...my HR rep but idk if she'll be able to do anything about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/02/19 2:50:48 AM #63:	Lol why would anyone create a fake story about being rejected from a job? And usually gimmicks with fake stories stick to just one kind of stories(like cpt_pineapple and his wife stories), so the fact that TC even made this topic also leads me to believe he wasn't lying about his pick up artist stories either --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:924131423] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Lol why would anyone create a fake story about being rejected from a job? And usually gimmicks with fake stories stick to just one kind of stories(like cpt_pineapple and his wife stories), so the fact that TC even made this topic also leads me to believe he wasn't lying about his pick up artist stories either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/02/19 3:02:54 AM #64:	008Zulu posted... You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills. Its not just his skills that are lacking. Whoever he spoke to was obviously put off by TCs bad manners and probably warned the hiring manager. Why would they want to work with TC when this is the way he treats people? They wouldnt want to spend 8 hours a day with someone who behaves like TC. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:924131662] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills.</quote> Its not just his skills that are lacking. Whoever he spoke to was obviously put off by TCs bad manners and probably warned the hiring manager. Why would they want to work with TC when this is the way he treats people? They wouldnt want to spend 8 hours a day with someone who behaves like TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/02/19 3:06:08 AM #65:	No_U_L7 posted... manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants (i'll try not to take that personally...) I think they were telling you to take it personally. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:924131730] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote>manager was unhappy with the pool of applicants (i'll try not to take that personally...)</quote> I think they were telling you to take it personally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 07/02/19 3:14:05 AM #66:	Tmaster148 posted... So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed. This "fake story" meme needs to die. It's not unbelievable that he would get rejected from a job. --- GOML <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:924131891] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed.</quote> This "fake story" meme needs to die. It's not unbelievable that he would get rejected from a job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/02/19 3:25:19 AM #67:	Pepys Monster posted... Tmaster148 posted... So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed. This "fake story" meme needs to die. It's not unbelievable that he would get rejected from a job. He's being telling fake stories for longer than some people on CE have likely been alive. It's stranger to think anything he say's isn't entirely made up. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:924132104] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>So not only does TC like to create fake stories about how he chases after 18 year olds. He also creates fake stories about getting rejected from a job and being unemployed.</quote> This "fake story" meme needs to die. It's not unbelievable that he would get rejected from a job.</quote> He's being telling fake stories for longer than some people on CE have likely been alive. It's stranger to think anything he say's isn't entirely made up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 07/02/19 3:46:18 AM #68:	I dont know why you would think they give a shit if it's slightly more difficult for you to apply. And I really dont know how out of touch you have to be to think anyone is going to hire you when you haven't even been interviewed yet and you're already a problem --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:924132439] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>I dont know why you would think they give a shit if it's slightly more difficult for you to apply. And I really dont know how out of touch you have to be to think anyone is going to hire you when you haven't even been interviewed yet and you're already a problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 3:49:47 AM #69:	Solid Snake07 posted... I dont know why you would think they give a shit if it's slightly more difficult for you to apply. And I really dont know how out of touch you have to be to think anyone is going to hire you when you haven't even been interviewed yet and you're already a problem Because it's the government. As someone said, they have to treat everyone equally, doesn't even matter if you're annoying --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924132502] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont know why you would think they give a shit if it's slightly more difficult for you to apply. And I really dont know how out of touch you have to be to think anyone is going to hire you when you haven't even been interviewed yet and you're already a problem</quote> Because it's the government. As someone said, they have to treat everyone equally, doesn't even matter if you're annoying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 07/02/19 4:06:25 AM #70:	Rika_Furude posted... 008Zulu posted... You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills. Its not just his skills that are lacking. Whoever he spoke to was obviously put off by TCs bad manners and probably warned the hiring manager. Why would they want to work with TC when this is the way he treats people? They wouldnt want to spend 8 hours a day with someone who behaves like TC. Maybe he should apply to be a lighthouse keeper, in Alaska, or some place. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:924132728] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>You are not entitled to a job interview. If their system flagged you as being insufficient as they determine such things, then that's on you to fix, not them. Get more skills.</quote> Its not just his skills that are lacking. Whoever he spoke to was obviously put off by TCs bad manners and probably warned the hiring manager. Why would they want to work with TC when this is the way he treats people? They wouldnt want to spend 8 hours a day with someone who behaves like TC.</quote> Maybe he should apply to be a lighthouse keeper, in Alaska, or some place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 07/02/19 11:57:48 AM #71:	Both of you are a little off. They're more wrong but...they already rejected you so... --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:924143426] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Both of you are a little off. They're more wrong but...they already rejected you so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 07/02/19 11:58:54 AM #72:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... It's just a nice way of saying you're not qualified for the position. They're not going to give you an interview. Just move on. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:924143466] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>It's just a nice way of saying you're not qualified for the position. They're not going to give you an interview. Just move on.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CharlesBronson 07/02/19 12:03:34 PM #73:	if they need you they'll call you <cite>CharlesBronson posted [p:924143646] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>if they need you they'll call you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greenfox111 07/02/19 12:18:33 PM #74:	They had 4 people they wanted to interview but tc didnt make the cut :( way to ruin it for the rest of em tc --- Don't ask. <cite>Greenfox111 posted [p:924144258] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>They had 4 people they wanted to interview but tc didnt make the cut :( way to ruin it for the rest of em tc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 07/02/19 3:00:31 PM #75:	If all else fails email them a pic of your genitals. --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:924151242] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>If all else fails email them a pic of your genitals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:03:04 PM #76:	Update: I reached out to HQ HR. They said this division is obligated to accept my original application. They called this division to tell them that and I received an email saying my application has been processed. Look at that, guess I was right...who would have thought. All I had to do was...stand up for myself. --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924153786] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Update: I reached out to HQ HR. They said this division is obligated to accept my original application. They called this division to tell them that and I received an email saying my application has been processed. Look at that, guess I was right...who would have thought. All I had to do was...stand up for myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 07/02/19 4:08:16 PM #77:	It doesn't mean that your application wouldn't end up in trash bin once again <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:924153968] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't mean that your application wouldn't end up in trash bin once again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:17:42 PM #78:	vocedelmorte posted... It doesn't mean that your application wouldn't end up in trash bin once again Do you not know how to read...? It didnt get trashed the first time...it ended up rolled over to this application period. They actually have to interview me now from a legal standpoint too. Its government standard process, they aren't allowed to factor in that you're annoying to deny you an interview. So if they deny me, and I sue them...they have to be able to prove all their interview candidates have at least the same top tier qualifications that I do. I'll give you a hint...they dont, because there aren't that many people with my qualifications. --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924154363] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't mean that your application wouldn't end up in trash bin once again</quote> Do you not know how to read...? It didnt get trashed the first time...it ended up rolled over to this application period. They actually have to interview me now from a legal standpoint too. Its government standard process, they aren't allowed to factor in that you're annoying to deny you an interview. So if they deny me, and I sue them...they have to be able to prove all their interview candidates have at least the same top tier qualifications that I do. I'll give you a hint...they dont, because there aren't that many people with my qualifications.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LookANinja 07/02/19 4:25:15 PM #79:	Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get. --- http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/56/picturesig.jpg https://imgur.com/b8HCz <cite>LookANinja posted [p:924154677] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:26:50 PM #80:	LookANinja posted... Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get. It was the right move regardless, since it was the morally right move. I may or may not get the job, but I'll get an interview and do great --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924154733] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>LookANinja posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get.</quote> It was the right move regardless, since it was the morally right move. I may or may not get the job, but I'll get an interview and do great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marcos_Cafu_2 07/02/19 4:27:53 PM #81:	So what are your qualifications? From the description, you make it sound like a job advert that just says "Please have this one thing" and that's it That can't be right. --- Milan won the scudetto - 7/5/11 ~ "I so happy" <cite>Marcos_Cafu_2 posted [p:924154771] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>So what are your qualifications? From the description, you make it sound like a job advert that just says "Please have this one thing" and that's it That can't be right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/02/19 4:30:16 PM #82:	No_U_L7 posted... LookANinja posted... Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get. It was the right move regardless, since it was the morally right move. I may or may not get the job, but I'll get an interview and do great If you wanted the job it was the wrong move. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:924154866] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LookANinja posted...</cite> <quote> Seems like a lot of work to call HQ HR for a job you're not going to get.</quote> It was the right move regardless, since it was the morally right move. I may or may not get the job, but I'll get an interview and do great</quote> If you wanted the job it was the wrong move.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 07/02/19 4:31:35 PM #83:	they say they'll get back to me...it's been a week and deadline is on fri This alone should tell you that they are not interested. How can you be so obtuse lol sue them? Can you prove anything? They do not owe you an interview, but they might end up inviting you just cause you're so damn insistent. And im sure, they would notice your 'top tier qualifications' resume the first time, if it was what they needed. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:924154933] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><quote> they say they'll get back to me...it's been a week and deadline is on fri</quote> This alone should tell you that they are not interested. How can you be so obtuse lol sue them? Can you prove anything? They do not owe you an interview, but they might end up inviting you just cause you're so damn insistent. And im sure, they would notice your 'top tier qualifications' resume the first time, if it was what they needed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:32:15 PM #84:	Marcos_Cafu_2 posted... So what are your qualifications? From the description, you make it sound like a job advert that just says "Please have this one thing" and that's it That can't be right. Job title is "xxxx engineer" I have a masters degree in "xxxx engineering" in addition to my bachelor's in engineering. Then I have my engineering license and 5 years at the top engineering consulting firm in my region. I essentially get an interview to any job I apply to in this classification --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924154967] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Marcos_Cafu_2 posted...</cite> <quote>So what are your qualifications? From the description, you make it sound like a job advert that just says "Please have this one thing" and that's it That can't be right.</quote> Job title is "xxxx engineer" I have a masters degree in "xxxx engineering" in addition to my bachelor's in engineering. Then I have my engineering license and 5 years at the top engineering consulting firm in my region. I essentially get an interview to any job I apply to in this classification</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:34:50 PM #85:	vocedelmorte posted... they say they'll get back to me...it's been a week and deadline is on fri This alone should tell you that they are not interested. How can you be so obtuse lol sue them? Can you prove anything? They do not owe you an interview, but they might end up inviting you just cause you're so damn insistent. And im sure, they would notice your 'top tier qualifications' resume the first time, if it was what they needed. Read this post, I'm not explaining it again https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77833680/924124727 You're thinking of it as a private company where they can do whatever they want. It isnt and they cant. There are very clear guidelines for government positions. --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924155081] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><quote> they say they'll get back to me...it's been a week and deadline is on fri</quote> This alone should tell you that they are not interested. How can you be so obtuse lol sue them? Can you prove anything? They do not owe you an interview, but they might end up inviting you just cause you're so damn insistent. And im sure, they would notice your 'top tier qualifications' resume the first time, if it was what they needed.</quote> Read this post, I'm not explaining it again https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77833680/924124727 You're thinking of it as a private company where they can do whatever they want. It isnt and they cant. There are very clear guidelines for government positions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greenfox111 07/02/19 4:45:09 PM #86:	No_U_L7 posted... You're thinking of it as a private company where they can do whatever they want. It isnt and they cant. There are very clear guidelines for government positions. so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask --- Don't ask. <cite>Greenfox111 posted [p:924155589] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote> You're thinking of it as a private company where they can do whatever they want. It isnt and they cant. There are very clear guidelines for government positions.</quote> so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 4:46:10 PM #87:	Greenfox111 posted... so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask to get feedback...? just like with girls i never assume i know everything....even though i know almost everything. it's always good to check to see if i missed something --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924155644] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Greenfox111 posted...</cite> <quote>so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask</quote> to get feedback...? just like with girls i never assume i know everything....even though i know almost everything. it's always good to check to see if i missed something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/02/19 5:05:23 PM #88:	No_U_L7 posted... Greenfox111 posted... so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask to get feedback...? just like with girls i never assume i know everything....even though i know almost everything. it's always good to check to see if i missed something Just because you dont like the feedback you were given doesnt make the feedback any less factual. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:924156443] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Greenfox111 posted...</cite> <quote> so then you're not being unreasonable. you already know that. why'd you ask</quote> to get feedback...? just like with girls i never assume i know everything....even though i know almost everything. it's always good to check to see if i missed something</quote> Just because you dont like the feedback you were given doesnt make the feedback any less factual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 07/02/19 5:07:02 PM #89:	If (s)he wasn't impressed with the pool of applicants the first time around, I wouldn't bother. Nothing against you but if that were me I would move on. --- Currently playing: Super Metroid (snes), Murdered: Soul Suspect (xbox1) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:924156514] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>If (s)he wasn't impressed with the pool of applicants the first time around, I wouldn't bother. Nothing against you but if that were me I would move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:13:31 PM #90:	Rika_Furude posted... Just because you dont like the feedback you were given doesnt make the feedback any less factual. the feedback is less factual...because none of it is based on facts. everything everyone said ignored that it was a standardized government process and the criteria for holding interviews in the first place --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924156798] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you dont like the feedback you were given doesnt make the feedback any less factual.</quote> the feedback is less factual...because none of it is based on facts. everything everyone said ignored that it was a standardized government process and the criteria for holding interviews in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:14:03 PM #91:	SauI_Goodman posted... If (s)he wasn't impressed with the pool of applicants the first time around, I wouldn't bother. Nothing against you but if that were me I would move on. read this post https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77833680/924124727 --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924156827] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>If (s)he wasn't impressed with the pool of applicants the first time around, I wouldn't bother. Nothing against you but if that were me I would move on.</quote> read this post https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77833680/924124727</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 07/02/19 5:21:26 PM #92:	At what point does doggedly pushing your relatively mundane point go from standing up to myself to not being dynamic in the slightest. I mean seriously, the world isnt some well-oiled machine, you gotta work around shit sometimes. Dude I wouldnt even interview someone like that, you got qualifications, but then you got the person youre gonna be stuck with to consider. And often, the latter point is far more crucial. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:924157156] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>At what point does doggedly pushing your relatively mundane point go from standing up to myself to not being dynamic in the slightest. I mean seriously, the world isnt some well-oiled machine, you gotta work around shit sometimes. Dude I wouldnt even interview someone like that, you got qualifications, but then you got the person youre gonna be stuck with to consider. And often, the latter point is far more crucial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:25:33 PM #93:	A_A_Battery posted... At what point does doggedly pushing your relatively mundane point go from standing up to myself to not being dynamic in the slightest. I mean seriously, the world isnt some well-oiled machine, you gotta work around shit sometimes. Dude I wouldnt even interview someone like that, you got qualifications, but then you got the person youre gonna be stuck with to consider. And often, the latter point is far more crucial. i can ask the opposite...at what point do you just become a pushover? i did what was morally right, so whether or not i get the job i can live with it. the people that are extraordinary are the ones that don't conform just because they're told to when they realize there are better options. and i probably wouldn't do this if it was a private job, but like i said it's government and they aren't allowed to select interviews based off whether or not you annoyed them. --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924157346] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>At what point does doggedly pushing your relatively mundane point go from standing up to myself to not being dynamic in the slightest. I mean seriously, the world isnt some well-oiled machine, you gotta work around shit sometimes. Dude I wouldnt even interview someone like that, you got qualifications, but then you got the person youre gonna be stuck with to consider. And often, the latter point is far more crucial.</quote> i can ask the opposite...at what point do you just become a pushover? i did what was morally right, so whether or not i get the job i can live with it. the people that are extraordinary are the ones that don't conform just because they're told to when they realize there are better options. and i probably wouldn't do this if it was a private job, but like i said it's government and they aren't allowed to select interviews based off whether or not you annoyed them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobaban 07/02/19 5:27:48 PM #94:	No_U_L7 posted... Rika_Furude posted... This is why you wernt hired the first time. i wasn't hired the first time...because there were no interviews conducted the first time. what is so hard about that to understand lol Lol your resume didnt get you an interview. That says it all <cite>bobaban posted [p:924157452] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>This is why you wernt hired the first time.</quote> i wasn't hired the first time...because there were no interviews conducted the first time. what is so hard about that to understand lol</quote> Lol your resume didnt get you an interview. That says it all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:28:39 PM #95:	bobaban posted... Lol your resume didnt get you an interview. That says it all someone can't read... --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924157491] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>bobaban posted...</cite> <quote>Lol your resume didnt get you an interview. That says it all</quote> someone can't read...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 07/02/19 5:29:15 PM #96:	No_U_L7 posted... i can ask the opposite...at what point do you just become a pushover? Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:924157520] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote>i can ask the opposite...at what point do you just become a pushover?</quote> Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:31:33 PM #97:	A_A_Battery posted... Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum. you're rationalizing as pushing the extremes to "slightly different" and "show some dedication" when neither are true. i'm simply correcting them on their beliefs of the standards and the law. i can rationalize that as "always doing what's correct" and "following the guidelines/process" and saying they value that too, when truth is probably they don't really care either way. but it does change how you think and behave when you just constantly conform to do what you are told to do, even when you believe it's wrong --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924157624] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum.</quote> you're rationalizing as pushing the extremes to "slightly different" and "show some dedication" when neither are true. i'm simply correcting them on their beliefs of the standards and the law. i can rationalize that as "always doing what's correct" and "following the guidelines/process" and saying they value that too, when truth is probably they don't really care either way. but it does change how you think and behave when you just constantly conform to do what you are told to do, even when you believe it's wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 07/02/19 5:53:26 PM #98:	No_U_L7 posted... A_A_Battery posted... Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum. you're rationalizing as pushing the extremes to "slightly different" and "show some dedication" when neither are true. i'm simply correcting them on their beliefs of the standards and the law. i can rationalize that as "always doing what's correct" and "following the guidelines/process" and saying they value that too, when truth is probably they don't really care either way. but it does change how you think and behave when you just constantly conform to do what you are told to do, even when you believe it's wrong Youre not having orders barked at you, it would look better to be easy to deal with. This entire situation is a non-issue. Not only that, but all this effort to basically not get hired because of a bad impression. Ofc there is always a chance that you do get hired just like how theres a chance that youre a fictional character. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:924158523] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>No_U_L7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh, it aint when you have to send an application slightly differently, showing some dedication rather than kicking up a tantrum.</quote> you're rationalizing as pushing the extremes to "slightly different" and "show some dedication" when neither are true. i'm simply correcting them on their beliefs of the standards and the law. i can rationalize that as "always doing what's correct" and "following the guidelines/process" and saying they value that too, when truth is probably they don't really care either way. but it does change how you think and behave when you just constantly conform to do what you are told to do, even when you believe it's wrong</quote> Youre not having orders barked at you, it would look better to be easy to deal with. This entire situation is a non-issue. Not only that, but all this effort to basically not get hired because of a bad impression. Ofc there is always a chance that you do get hired just like how theres a chance that youre a fictional character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/02/19 5:58:57 PM #99:	A_A_Battery posted... Youre not having orders barked at you, it would look better to be easy to deal with. This entire situation is a non-issue. Not only that, but all this effort to basically not get hired because of a bad impression. Ofc there is always a chance that you do get hired just like how theres a chance that youre a fictional character. again, idk how many times i have to tell you...what's easy isn't always what's right. they were in violation of company/government policy. it was literally wrong. i corrected them. that affects how i think of the world and act in it. if i just followed the path of least resistance every single time, i wouldn't be the person that i am. and once again, they are NOT allowed to take "being annoying" into consideration. just like you can say it counts against me, i can say that it can earn me points since i'm the only person that noticed this discrepancy and was willing to speak up against it. it's all speculative --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:924158764] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>Youre not having orders barked at you, it would look better to be easy to deal with. This entire situation is a non-issue. Not only that, but all this effort to basically not get hired because of a bad impression. Ofc there is always a chance that you do get hired just like how theres a chance that youre a fictional character.</quote> again, idk how many times i have to tell you...what's easy isn't always what's right. they were in violation of company/government policy. it was literally wrong. i corrected them. that affects how i think of the world and act in it. if i just followed the path of least resistance every single time, i wouldn't be the person that i am. and once again, they are NOT allowed to take "being annoying" into consideration. just like you can say it counts against me, i can say that it can earn me points since i'm the only person that noticed this discrepancy and was willing to speak up against it. it's all speculative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 07/02/19 6:01:52 PM #100:	Yeah. Everyone loves working with the nitpicking zealot. You got this detail wrooooong. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:924158882] in am i being... [t:77833680]...</cite> <quote>Yeah. Everyone loves working with the nitpicking zealot. You got this detail wrooooong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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