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AceMos 06/28/19 3:48:19 AM #1:	sega cant make a sonic game to save there lives the only sucessful game he has had was made by fans and that game as basically sonic running back to the 90s to hide because he could not keep up with modern games basically the old man wanting to live in the past and his movie dear god his movie --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923957694] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>sega cant make a sonic game to save there lives the only sucessful game he has had was made by fans and that game as basically sonic running back to the 90s to hide because he could not keep up with modern games basically the old man wanting to live in the past and his movie dear god his movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 06/28/19 3:51:32 AM #2:	just his career <cite>Reis posted [p:923957743] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>just his career</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/28/19 3:52:22 AM #3:	Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:923957754] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 06/28/19 3:55:48 AM #4:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore. facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years <cite>Reis posted [p:923957829] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore.</quote> facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SONIC_305 06/28/19 4:02:40 AM #5:	Sega didnt make the movie since I'm pretty sure it's more on paramount I believe. I doubt smash kept him alive. He had like 2 royal fuck up bad games which is sonic boom and 06 (LOL @ idiots that believe this worst sonic game is better than forces ) If that wasnt enough to kill him idk what is. Honestly dont really care what people say since his fanbase is the worst. Most people just compare classics to 3d even tho their really suppose to be completely different games and play nothing like it aside from the 2d sections. Fanbase will cry over anything regardless. I still see people say sonic mania was a bad game because LOL level designs weren't good compared to sonic 1-3. Sonics just a hit and miss to me. He did have fun games imo such as sonic rush, advanced, colors, adventure, unleashed generations, first two sonic racing games etc. --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:923957955] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Sega didnt make the movie since I'm pretty sure it's more on paramount I believe. I doubt smash kept him alive. He had like 2 royal fuck up bad games which is sonic boom and 06 (LOL @ idiots that believe this worst sonic game is better than forces ) If that wasnt enough to kill him idk what is. Honestly dont really care what people say since his fanbase is the worst. Most people just compare classics to 3d even tho their really suppose to be completely different games and play nothing like it aside from the 2d sections. Fanbase will cry over anything regardless. I still see people say sonic mania was a bad game because LOL level designs weren't good compared to sonic 1-3. Sonics just a hit and miss to me. He did have fun games imo such as sonic rush, advanced, colors, adventure, unleashed generations, first two sonic racing games etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/28/19 4:06:11 AM #6:	SONIC_305 posted... Sega didnt make the movie since I'm pretty sure it's more on paramount I believe. yes but it will still effect public perception of the character and while he only had 2 massive flops its not like his other stuff where gang busters they where mediocre and quickly forgotten for the most part yes he has had good stuff (hell sonic rush is my fave 2D sonic) but those are few and far between and get talked about less and less --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923958021] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote>Sega didnt make the movie since I'm pretty sure it's more on paramount I believe.</quote> yes but it will still effect public perception of the character and while he only had 2 massive flops its not like his other stuff where gang busters they where mediocre and quickly forgotten for the most part yes he has had good stuff (hell sonic rush is my fave 2D sonic) but those are few and far between and get talked about less and less</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 06/28/19 4:13:49 AM #7:	Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy. --- GT My Lord Shadow Member of the PC Master race <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:923958130] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/28/19 4:15:48 AM #8:	Lord_Shadow posted... Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy. sadly sega will see sonic forces as "proof" people dont want a return to those style of games --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923958159] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy.</quote> sadly sega will see sonic forces as "proof" people dont want a return to those style of games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Freecs 06/28/19 4:17:03 AM #9:	Reis posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore. facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years Sonic mania. Id say sonic colours was straight up an 8/10 game. <cite>The_Freecs posted [p:923958186] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore.</quote> facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years</quote> Sonic mania. Id say sonic colours was straight up an 8/10 game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 06/28/19 4:20:22 AM #11:	Reis posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore. facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years Wrong shadow the hedgehog came out in 2005 --- GT My Lord Shadow Member of the PC Master race <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:923958237] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>Colors and Generations sucked, but they were certainly notable steps forward from where the franchise was before. Sonic Team really should have stuck to that formula and polished it up more for subsequent games. Too bad they had to kill all their momentum with trash like Lost World and Forces. And even though they weren't the ones who developed it, they did give Big Red Button, a team of Naughty Dog rejects, permission to make the travesty that was Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric. Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore.</quote> facts fam, there hasn't been a good sonic game in over 20 years</quote> Wrong shadow the hedgehog came out in 2005</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SONIC_305 06/28/19 4:20:51 AM #12:	AceMos posted... Lord_Shadow posted... Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy. sadly sega will see sonic forces as "proof" people dont want a return to those style of games I think it's more like sonic 06 blew that chance how I see it. --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:923958248] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>AceMos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy.</quote> sadly sega will see sonic forces as "proof" people dont want a return to those style of games</quote> I think it's more like sonic 06 blew that chance how I see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/28/19 4:21:48 AM #13:	SONIC_305 posted... It's more that sonic 06 blew that chance for it to me. ye sthat is what killed it but sonic forces was sega "trying" to revive that style of sonic game sadly all it did is show they have not learned a damn thing --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923958269] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote>It's more that sonic 06 blew that chance for it to me.</quote> ye sthat is what killed it but sonic forces was sega "trying" to revive that style of sonic game sadly all it did is show they have not learned a damn thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Freecs 06/28/19 4:37:31 AM #14:	Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released? <cite>The_Freecs posted [p:923958488] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/28/19 4:39:35 AM #15:	The_Freecs posted... Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released? you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything even rehashed old popular levels most games get called lazy for doing that as i said in the opening post sonic mania is just sonic running back to the 90s because he cant keep up with modern gaming --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923958530] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote>Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released?</quote> you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything even rehashed old popular levels most games get called lazy for doing that as i said in the opening post sonic mania is just sonic running back to the 90s because he cant keep up with modern gaming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Freecs 06/28/19 4:55:31 AM #16:	weren't you complaining that ffvii remake wasn't turn based? <cite>The_Freecs posted [p:923958762] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>weren't you complaining that ffvii remake wasn't turn based?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/28/19 4:57:33 AM #17:	The_Freecs posted... weren't you complaining that ffvii remake wasn't turn based? yes and? sonic mania is not a remake of a old sonic game this argument has no barring on this in any way shape or form its just a pointless thing to say you could have said "blarglutoputo" and it would have been more relevant --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:923958798] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote>weren't you complaining that ffvii remake wasn't turn based?</quote> yes and? sonic mania is not a remake of a old sonic game this argument has no barring on this in any way shape or form its just a pointless thing to say you could have said "blarglutoputo" and it would have been more relevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/28/19 5:02:57 AM #18:	Lord_Shadow posted... Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy. Well I feel obligated to remind you that Sonic 2006 was supposed to be Sonic Adventure 3 --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:923958878] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Sega and Sonic Team need to take a long hard sexual look at Sonic Adventure 2 if they want bring Sonic back to relevancy.</quote> Well I feel obligated to remind you that Sonic 2006 was supposed to be Sonic Adventure 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fuzzylittlbunny 06/28/19 6:44:59 AM #20:	No, Moopoke is keeping Sonic alive forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ozPF1A3Cgo" data-time=" --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya high five! <cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted [p:923960325] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>No, Moopoke is keeping Sonic alive forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ozPF1A3Cgo" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 06/28/19 7:07:05 AM #21:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore. Not true. They have the people who will buy new Sonic games no matter what. If the game is good then theyll attract people outside of that group to get the game Sonic Mania showed it can be done --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://discord.gg/s6gDduM - Dead by Daylight discord <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:923960625] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>Sonic is truly a lost cause at this point. Even if Sonic Team manage to make a good 3D Sonic game, it may be too late; platformers like Sonic games just aren't as popular anymore.</quote> Not true. They have the people who will buy new Sonic games no matter what. If the game is good then theyll attract people outside of that group to get the game Sonic Mania showed it can be done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/28/19 7:12:05 AM #22:	It's embarrassing that a fan made game (Sonic Mania) was leaps and bounds better than anything Sega have put out in decades, and it had to basically mimick the original games in order to do so. I think it's dead, unless Sega ushers in a new era of indie-style sonic games. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:923960704] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>It's embarrassing that a fan made game (Sonic Mania) was leaps and bounds better than anything Sega have put out in decades, and it had to basically mimick the original games in order to do so. I think it's dead, unless Sega ushers in a new era of indie-style sonic games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/28/19 6:00:54 PM #23:	Alpha218 posted... Sonic Mania showed it can be done Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:923983525] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>Sonic Mania showed it can be done </quote> Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SONIC_305 06/28/19 8:24:23 PM #24:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Alpha218 posted... Sonic Mania showed it can be done Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick. Sold 2 million get rekt --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:923988810] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>Sonic Mania showed it can be done </quote> Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick.</quote> Sold 2 million get rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/29/19 1:08:42 PM #25:	bump --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:924012783] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/29/19 1:10:58 PM #26:	Sonic Mania 2 and all sins are forgiven --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924012869] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Sonic Mania 2 and all sins are forgiven</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 06/29/19 1:16:43 PM #27:	Sonics is a fantastic character design. The movie shows what happens when you take that away. It all crumbles to dust. Scotty_Rogers posted... Alpha218 posted... Sonic Mania showed it can be done Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick. Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors, and not all of them in the meantime have been successful. --- Supporting Ashley for Smash til the day I die. Or the day she's added. So basically the day I die. https://imgur.com/QiEb7 <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:924013108] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Sonics is a fantastic character design. The movie shows what happens when you take that away. It all crumbles to dust. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>Sonic Mania showed it can be done </quote> Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick.</quote> Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors, and not all of them in the meantime have been successful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 06/29/19 1:38:23 PM #28:	AceMos posted... you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything Drop dash, Mighty, Ray, Hard Boiled Heavies, new shield mechanics, single player flight, mania mode,special, and bonus stages arent new? --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:924013880] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>AceMos posted...</cite> <quote>you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything </quote> Drop dash, Mighty, Ray, Hard Boiled Heavies, new shield mechanics, single player flight, mania mode,special, and bonus stages arent new?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 6:16:43 PM #29:	@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors Sonic 4 Episode I (2010), Generations (2011) and Sonic 4 Episode II (2012) all played the nostalgia card and sold well. Lost World (2013) didn't really play the nostalgia card. No mainline Sonic games in 2014-2016. Mania (2017) sold well only because it played the nostalgia card, being a 2D sprite game full of throwbacks to the Genesis originals. That's not a model for future releases; it's a novelty. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924024360] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors</quote> Sonic 4 Episode I (2010), Generations (2011) and Sonic 4 Episode II (2012) all played the nostalgia card and sold well. Lost World (2013) didn't really play the nostalgia card. No mainline Sonic games in 2014-2016. Mania (2017) sold well only because it played the nostalgia card, being a 2D sprite game full of throwbacks to the Genesis originals. That's not a model for future releases; it's a novelty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 6:19:38 PM #30:	@SONIC_305 posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... Alpha218 posted... Sonic Mania showed it can be done Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick. Sold 2 million get rekt Because nostalgia. A sequel will not do as well. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924024457] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>@SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>Sonic Mania showed it can be done </quote> Did it even sell that well? If it did, only because it played the nostalgia card. That shit goes old quick.</quote> Sold 2 million get rekt</quote> Because nostalgia. A sequel will not do as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryven 06/29/19 6:20:15 PM #31:	AceMos posted... The_Freecs posted... Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released? you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything even rehashed old popular levels most games get called lazy for doing that as i said in the opening post sonic mania is just sonic running back to the 90s because he cant keep up with modern gaming If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If that's the best Sega can do with Sonic, and Mania was great, then give me more of that please. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:924024493] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>AceMos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote>Are people forgetting sonic mania which is arguably the best sonic game ever released?</quote> you mean the game that just panders to nostalgia of the old games offering no new game play mechanics or characters or anything even rehashed old popular levels most games get called lazy for doing that as i said in the opening post sonic mania is just sonic running back to the 90s because he cant keep up with modern gaming</quote> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If that's the best Sega can do with Sonic, and Mania was great, then give me more of that please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 6:21:11 PM #32:	Ryven posted... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If that's the best Sega can do with Sonic, and Mania was great, then give me more of that please. The franchise can't last just with 2D throwback games. It needs good modern 3D games if it wants to truly remain relevant, and Sonic Team doesn't seem to be capable of making those. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924024520] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If that's the best Sega can do with Sonic, and Mania was great, then give me more of that please. </quote> The franchise can't last just with 2D throwback games. It needs good modern 3D games if it wants to truly remain relevant, and Sonic Team doesn't seem to be capable of making those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/29/19 6:33:59 PM #33:	Generations and Mania was great --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:924025013] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Generations and Mania was great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CookieV3 06/29/19 6:50:15 PM #34:	I feel like sonic is gonna be around regardless for some time. Therell always be the blind fans buying stuff like Forces despite being steps back from what came before and people who buy it just to see how bad it is if they fuck up hard like what many are talking about doing for the Sonic movie. As long as they put out a passable game every now and then theyll be fine --- nonononononononononononnonononoknownononono <cite>CookieV3 posted [p:924025528] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>I feel like sonic is gonna be around regardless for some time. Therell always be the blind fans buying stuff like Forces despite being steps back from what came before and people who buy it just to see how bad it is if they fuck up hard like what many are talking about doing for the Sonic movie. As long as they put out a passable game every now and then theyll be fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 06/29/19 7:56:11 PM #35:	Scotty_Rogers posted... l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors Sonic 4 Episode I (2010), Generations (2011) and Sonic 4 Episode II (2012) all played the nostalgia card and sold well. Lost World (2013) didn't really play the nostalgia card. No mainline Sonic games in 2014-2016. Mania (2017) sold well only because it played the nostalgia card, being a 2D sprite game full of throwbacks to the Genesis originals. That's not a model for future releases; it's a novelty. Lost World literally tried to be Sonic 1 in 3D. The capsules, the GHZ tiles, all that. Sonic Forces also played the nostalgia card and got panned because its ass. Same goes for Sonic 4. Mania sold well because its good. Full stop. You may as well be debating whether or not 2 + 2 is 4. --- Supporting Ashley for Smash til the day I die. Or the day she's added. So basically the day I die. https://imgur.com/QiEb7 <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:924027990] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah pretty sure it sold well because its actually good. We havent had a Sonic game not play the nostalgia card since Colors</quote> Sonic 4 Episode I (2010), Generations (2011) and Sonic 4 Episode II (2012) all played the nostalgia card and sold well. Lost World (2013) didn't really play the nostalgia card. No mainline Sonic games in 2014-2016. Mania (2017) sold well only because it played the nostalgia card, being a 2D sprite game full of throwbacks to the Genesis originals. That's not a model for future releases; it's a novelty.</quote> Lost World literally tried to be Sonic 1 in 3D. The capsules, the GHZ tiles, all that. Sonic Forces also played the nostalgia card and got panned because its ass. Same goes for Sonic 4. Mania sold well because its good. Full stop. You may as well be debating whether or not 2 + 2 is 4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 8:11:15 PM #36:	@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... Lost World literally tried to be Sonic 1 in 3D. No. l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... The capsules, the GHZ tiles, all that. We've had plenty of Sonic games with GHZ style tiles and capsules; those are general Sonic trademarks, not specific to the first Sonic game. Furthermore, these things are ultimately minor; they weren't the main aspect of Lost World at all. Even if they do qualify as nostalgia pandering, they weren't the main purpose of the game at all. Lost World had its own gameplay style separate from Sonic 1, with brand new mechanics like Parkour, Mario Galaxy esque level design and all sorts of gimmicky minigames. If anything, it was a Sonic game trying to be a Mario game. Mania is literally all about nostalgia pandering. The Genesis style sprites, the Genesis style gameplay, the remade Genesis levels, etc. Everything about the game was supposed to recapture the essence and feel of the Genesis game, which was its main selling point. It didn't simply play the nostalgia card; it played it to the extreme. Lost World having a few minor homages at best isn't comparable. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924028530] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>Lost World literally tried to be Sonic 1 in 3D. </quote> No. <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>The capsules, the GHZ tiles, all that. </quote> We've had plenty of Sonic games with GHZ style tiles and capsules; those are general Sonic trademarks, not specific to the first Sonic game. Furthermore, these things are ultimately minor; they weren't the main aspect of Lost World at all. Even if they do qualify as nostalgia pandering, they weren't the main purpose of the game at all. Lost World had its own gameplay style separate from Sonic 1, with brand new mechanics like Parkour, Mario Galaxy esque level design and all sorts of gimmicky minigames. If anything, it was a Sonic game trying to be a Mario game. Mania is literally all about nostalgia pandering. The Genesis style sprites, the Genesis style gameplay, the remade Genesis levels, etc. Everything about the game was supposed to recapture the essence and feel of the Genesis game, which was its main selling point. It didn't simply play the nostalgia card; it played it to the extreme. Lost World having a few minor homages at best isn't comparable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 06/29/19 8:12:12 PM #37:	Sonic and the Butt Knight --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:924028566] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Sonic and the Butt Knight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 06/29/19 8:33:13 PM #38:	No. Furries will always keep Sonic alive. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:924029309] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>No. Furries will always keep Sonic alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 06/29/19 10:33:00 PM #39:	First of all, replace every instance of Genesis with Saturn. Thats what Mania is, its the Sonic game the Saturn never got. If all those GHZ callbacks are such unmovable staples of the Sonic series, where are they in any other game that doesnt have a location named Green Hill Zone? Colors, Unleashed, Adventure, Adventure 2 (other than the secret level), Rush, for fucksake SONIC 2. --- Supporting Ashley for Smash til the day I die. Or the day she's added. So basically the day I die. https://imgur.com/QiEb7 <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:924033604] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>First of all, replace every instance of Genesis with Saturn. Thats what Mania is, its the Sonic game the Saturn never got. If all those GHZ callbacks are such unmovable staples of the Sonic series, where are they in any other game that doesnt have a location named Green Hill Zone? Colors, Unleashed, Adventure, Adventure 2 (other than the secret level), Rush, for fucksake SONIC 2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 10:46:52 PM #40:	@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... First of all, replace every instance of Genesis with Saturn. Thats what Mania is, its the Sonic game the Saturn never got. No, it is not. Sonic Xtreme was the Sonic game the Saturn never got; in other words, a 3D platformer that would have competed with the likes of Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. No one was asking for a 2D Sonic game for the Saturn, certainly not one that is mostly made up of remade zones from the Genesis games; people just wanted 3D, because 3D was all the rage at the time. You're applying revisionist history when you argue otherwise. And you're really grasping at the straws here. My point is that it's supposed to be a throwback to the original trilogy of Sonic games; Sonic 1, 2 and 3&K, which all came out for the Genesis. Mania may graphically be closer to a 2D Saturn game, because the graphics are certainly more advanced than any Genesis game, but that doesn't change the fact that the game takes heavy influence from the Genesis Sonic games, both in terms of gameplay and aesthetic (literally remakes zones from the Genesis games). It's essentially a 2D Saturn style remake of the Genesis games, which means it's still a throwback to the Genesis games. More games like Mania is not gonna do the franchise much good; just as the franchise did in the Saturn era, Sonic needs good 3D games now to stay relevant. If all those GHZ callbacks are such unmovable staples of the Sonic series, where are they in any other game that doesnt have a location named Green Hill Zone? There are plenty of levels that are like Green Hill in Sonic. Emerald Hill Palmtree Panic Mushroom Hill Neo Green Hill Leaf Forest Seaside Hill Leaf Storm Windy Hill That sort of level is not specific to the first game. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924034128] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>First of all, replace every instance of Genesis with Saturn. Thats what Mania is, its the Sonic game the Saturn never got. </quote> No, it is not. Sonic Xtreme was the Sonic game the Saturn never got; in other words, a 3D platformer that would have competed with the likes of Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. No one was asking for a 2D Sonic game for the Saturn, certainly not one that is mostly made up of remade zones from the Genesis games; people just wanted 3D, because 3D was all the rage at the time. You're applying revisionist history when you argue otherwise. And you're really grasping at the straws here. My point is that it's supposed to be a throwback to the original trilogy of Sonic games; Sonic 1, 2 and 3&K, which all came out for the Genesis. Mania may graphically be closer to a 2D Saturn game, because the graphics are certainly more advanced than any Genesis game, but that doesn't change the fact that the game takes heavy influence from the Genesis Sonic games, both in terms of gameplay and aesthetic (literally remakes zones from the Genesis games). It's essentially a 2D Saturn style remake of the Genesis games, which means it's still a throwback to the Genesis games. More games like Mania is not gonna do the franchise much good; just as the franchise did in the Saturn era, Sonic needs good 3D games now to stay relevant. <quote>If all those GHZ callbacks are such unmovable staples of the Sonic series, where are they in any other game that doesnt have a location named Green Hill Zone? </quote> There are plenty of levels that are like Green Hill in Sonic. Emerald Hill Palmtree Panic Mushroom Hill Neo Green Hill Leaf Forest Seaside Hill Leaf Storm Windy Hill That sort of level is not specific to the first game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 06/29/19 10:47:34 PM #41:	At this point Smash is the only thing keeping Snake alive --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:924034150] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>At this point Smash is the only thing keeping Snake alive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 06/29/19 10:56:19 PM #42:	Allllll right, youre clearly trolling at this point. Nobody misses the point this hard by accident. --- Supporting Ashley for Smash til the day I die. Or the day she's added. So basically the day I die. https://imgur.com/QiEb7 <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:924034510] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Allllll right, youre clearly trolling at this point. Nobody misses the point this hard by accident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 06/29/19 11:15:45 PM #43:	@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 Just because I took the time to prove your stupid ass claims wrong with facts ("Mania is the Sonic game that the Saturn never got!" It's not. "Green Hill style levels and capsules are specific to Sonic 1!" It's not. "Sonic Lost World is Sonic 1 remade in 3D!" It's not) doesn't mean I missed your point at all; your point is just that more games like Sonic Mania will sell simply because Mania was good. That's a dumb argument, because no matter how many times you cover your ears, Mania only sold well because it played the nostalgia card to the extreme. That novelty factor isn't gonna carry Sonic forward; he needs good 3D games to remain truly relevant in this industry. But you can keep on being a stubborn apologist who doesn't actually know what he's talking about. You are suited to post nonsense like that, after all. --- THE FAM. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:924035285] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>@l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 Just because I took the time to prove your stupid ass claims wrong with facts ("Mania is the Sonic game that the Saturn never got!" It's not. "Green Hill style levels and capsules are specific to Sonic 1!" It's not. "Sonic Lost World is Sonic 1 remade in 3D!" It's not) doesn't mean I missed your point at all; your point is just that more games like Sonic Mania will sell simply because Mania was good. That's a dumb argument, because no matter how many times you cover your ears, Mania only sold well because it played the nostalgia card to the extreme. That novelty factor isn't gonna carry Sonic forward; he needs good 3D games to remain truly relevant in this industry. But you can keep on being a stubborn apologist who doesn't actually know what he's talking about. You are suited to post nonsense like that, after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 06/30/19 1:07:37 AM #44:	You can keep acting a clown if you want, but stop tagging me. Yes Im aware that another Saturn Somic game got canceled, but thats so blatantly beside the point that if youre not trolling, I dont even know how youre not embarrassed for bringing that up. --- Supporting Ashley for Smash til the day I die. Or the day she's added. So basically the day I die. https://imgur.com/QiEb7 <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:924039270] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>You can keep acting a clown if you want, but stop tagging me. Yes Im aware that another Saturn Somic game got canceled, but thats so blatantly beside the point that if youre not trolling, I dont even know how youre not embarrassed for bringing that up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SONIC_305 06/30/19 4:37:09 AM #45:	Irony posted... At this point Smash is the only thing keeping Snake alive Don't forget pac man, Kid icarus, earthbound, Ice-Climbers, Yoshi games, Star-fox, f-zero, pikmin, castlevania, and mega man :< --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:924043860] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At this point Smash is the only thing keeping Snake alive</quote> Don't forget pac man, Kid icarus, earthbound, Ice-Climbers, Yoshi games, Star-fox, f-zero, pikmin, castlevania, and mega man :<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 06/30/19 9:07:26 AM #46:	l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... but stop tagging me. misread as but stop teabagging me --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:924047699] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote>but stop tagging me.</quote> misread as but stop teabagging me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 06/30/19 10:11:36 AM #47:	Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog. --- https://imgur.com/GUwbF1D https://imgur.com/j4nfK4O <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:924049120] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/30/19 10:22:33 AM #48:	The_Scarecrow posted... Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog. yes year of sonic has worked out so well for sonic in the past --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:924049413] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Scarecrow posted...</cite> <quote>Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog.</quote> yes year of sonic has worked out so well for sonic in the past</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/30/19 10:24:26 AM #49:	The fact that Sega needed to hire fans to make a good Sonic game (Sonic Mania) isnt really a good thing. Yeah Sonic Team dont know how to make a good sonic game anymore. --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:924049459] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>The fact that Sega needed to hire fans to make a good Sonic game (Sonic Mania) isnt really a good thing. Yeah Sonic Team dont know how to make a good sonic game anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/30/19 10:28:16 AM #50:	Yeah Mania didn't do anything new but maybe Sega wouldnt let Whitehead have too much freedom. It's still a much better game then Sega themselves can make. They should give him more freedom for a sequel. --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:924049576] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote>Yeah Mania didn't do anything new but maybe Sega wouldnt let Whitehead have too much freedom. It's still a much better game then Sega themselves can make. They should give him more freedom for a sequel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 06/30/19 10:54:21 AM #51:	AceMos posted... The_Scarecrow posted... Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog. yes year of sonic has worked out so well for sonic in the past The purpose of this topic was you asking if Smash was the only thing keeping Sonic alive. Obviously, thats not true since Sonic games are still being planned for the future. Whether you personally like them or not holds zero importance. Theres still a big audience for this series. --- https://imgur.com/GUwbF1D https://imgur.com/j4nfK4O <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:924050368] in is sonic b... [t:77824772]...</cite> <quote><cite>AceMos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Scarecrow posted...</cite> <quote>Either bait thread or someone didnt do their research. The head of the Sonic team already said that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic as 2017 was for the hedgehog.</quote> yes year of sonic has worked out so well for sonic in the past</quote> The purpose of this topic was you asking if Smash was the only thing keeping Sonic alive. Obviously, thats not true since Sonic games are still being planned for the future. Whether you personally like them or not holds zero importance. Theres still a big audience for this series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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