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ChopinList 06/27/19 8:09:37 PM #1: |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/27/teen-traded-naked-selfies-with-girls-his-age-court-is-making-him-register-sex-offender/
Colorados Supreme Court upheld a ruling last week that required a juvenile boy to register as a sex offender after sexting and trading erotic pictures with two girls roughly his age, a split decision that highlights states recent struggles with applying laws passed in a less tech-heavy age. It began, according to the courts decision, at a 2012 Future Farmers of America conference, where the 15-year-old met two girls, one 17 and the other 15. In the months that followed, both girls came to believe they were romantically involved with the boy. Both girls testified that he texted them a photo of his erect penis and asked for a naked selfie in return. They eventually sent the photos after first resisting, the girls testified. Police discovered the photos when the boy was arrested on an unrelated charge and his phone was seized, court documents say. After a bench trial, the judge ruled that the conduct had amounted to sexual exploitation of a child and sentenced the boy to spend two years on probation as a juvenile sex offender and register as a sex offender for at least 20 years, according to Reason magazine. The lower court observed that the photos focused on the girls intimate parts and suggested a sexual coyness. The court also reasoned that the teens repeated requests for naked pictures, after sending one of his penis, showed he wanted them for overt sexual gratification. (Overt sexual gratification is a necessary element to prove the crime. That nuance may explain the reason neither girl was charged.) The teen appealed the ruling, but last week the Colorado Supreme Court upheld it, despite a change to the state law last year that aimed to prevent teens from being prosecuted for texting nude selfies under sexual exploitation of a child. That change was not retroactive. Our holding today may strike some as unfair, especially given the recent changes in the law addressing juvenile sexting behavior, Justice Monica M. Mrquez wrote for the majority. However, we must apply the law in effect at the time. --- I for one welcome our new computer overlords ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Behaviorism 06/27/19 8:14:11 PM #2: |
So how many will post that dumb "fair next" meme?
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/27/19 8:15:45 PM #3: |
One of them was 17 and he was 15, but he has to register as a sex offender?
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thronedfire2 06/27/19 8:17:58 PM #4: |
they believed they were romantically involved but a dick pic isn't ok?
the girls should be charged too. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PatrickMahomes 06/27/19 8:21:02 PM #5: |
wtf
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-Unowninator- 06/27/19 8:22:14 PM #6: |
Family Guy did this already.
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Tsukasa1891 06/27/19 8:24:02 PM #7: |
Underage teens having nudes is exploitation, but under age teens having sex is ok.
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eggcorn 06/27/19 8:25:35 PM #8: |
ChopinList posted...
Both girls testified that he texted them a photo of his erect penis and asked for a naked selfie in return. They eventually sent the photos after first resisting, the girls testified. I imagine it's because he initiated and coerced them into reciprocating. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 06/27/19 8:26:51 PM #9: |
ChopinList posted...
Both girls testified that he texted them a photo of his erect penis and asked for a naked selfie in return. They eventually sent the photos after first resisting, the girls testified. Hmmm --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/27/19 8:27:52 PM #10: |
The law is fucked up in that regard. Under the law, a kid can be arrested for their own nudes. If a minor takes a nude pic, and it's on their phone...their own nude..... They get arrested for CP.
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SageHarpuia 06/27/19 8:33:52 PM #12: |
Honestly the only time any 15 year old should have to register as a sex offender is if they're caught diddling prepubescent children
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Looked gf 06/27/19 8:35:02 PM #13: |
Garioshi posted...
ChopinList posted...Both girls testified that he texted them a photo of his erect penis and asked for a naked selfie in return. They eventually sent the photos after first resisting, the girls testified. Big hmmm --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 06/27/19 8:37:45 PM #14: |
The law is fucked up so the simple solution ? don't send dick pics, and don't keep nudes on your phone nor ask for nudes to be sent to you.
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EnterTheTekken 06/27/19 8:40:02 PM #15: |
I dunno about this ruling. It makes it seem like these girls were victims even though they were complicit. The reasoning of "overt sexual gratification" almost implies that males are the only ones who can engage in this behavior and are the only ones who can be sexually-driven.
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TomNook20 06/27/19 8:40:08 PM #16: |
The simple solution is to remove fucked up laws from the books.
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Offworlder1 06/27/19 8:41:12 PM #17: |
That is a long term solution, the short term solution is to avoid having or sending shit that will get you in serious legal trouble.
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TomNook20 06/27/19 8:43:25 PM #18: |
The short term solution is to not give stupid sentences based on stupid laws. Stop victim blaming.
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Lairen 06/27/19 8:43:27 PM #19: |
No, why would you apply the law at the time and not modern law? That makes no sense.
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Kastrada 06/27/19 8:45:50 PM #20: |
SageHarpuia posted...
Honestly the only time any 15 year old should have to register as a sex offender is if they're caught diddling prepubescent children I also think teens who rape other teens or adults should not have to register as sex offenders. >_> --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 06/27/19 8:49:17 PM #22: |
TomNook20 posted...
The short term solution is to not give stupid sentences based on stupid laws. Stop victim blaming. I am not victim blaming I am saying that it is not worth it to make stupid mistakes that fuck your entire life up. The law stupid as it might be considers the nudes and dick pics "child pornography" because the ages are a 15 year old boy and 17 year old girls. I am not in support of the law at all but I do know it is a bullshit law that you will get FUCKED for and it's best to not put yourself in that position. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 06/27/19 8:50:15 PM #23: |
lol
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--Zero- 06/27/19 9:04:47 PM #24: |
I guess he can live with his parents until 35 and learn a trade since he can't Kickstart his life at 18 anymore.
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Medussa 06/27/19 9:22:36 PM #25: |
this is why jury nullification exists
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fhqwhgads 06/27/19 9:24:58 PM #26: |
Kastrada posted...
SageHarpuia posted...Honestly the only time any 15 year old should have to register as a sex offender is if they're caught diddling prepubescent children Wait what --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger ... Copied to Clipboard!
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inloveanddeath0 06/27/19 9:25:55 PM #27: |
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LookANinja 06/27/19 9:28:08 PM #28: |
If they want to be consistent then the girls should be charged too. One was even older than the kid.
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Kastrada 06/27/19 9:43:27 PM #29: |
fhqwhgads posted...
Kastrada posted...SageHarpuia posted...Honestly the only time any 15 year old should have to register as a sex offender is if they're caught diddling prepubescent children I was being sarcastic because the person I quoted said the only time a 15 year old should get sex offender status if they fuck children. Which kind of ignores if that 15 year old raped other teens or adults, they could get a sex offender tag too. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roxborough4Ever 06/27/19 9:44:46 PM #30: |
thronedfire2 posted...
they believed they were romantically involved but a dick pic isn't ok? smfh...how do you charge the victim? --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sage JJ 06/27/19 9:49:20 PM #31: |
What about the girls? Shouldn't they get the same punishment?
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friendbuddypal 06/27/19 9:51:18 PM #32: |
Underage male and underage female exchange nude photos: underage male is a child pornographer and has his life effectively ended.
Drunk male and drunk female have sex: drunk male is a rapist and has his life ruined. Huh, weird how the justice system has these double standards. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TalesofMedz 06/27/19 9:53:53 PM #33: |
Does the girl have to register or does she have some sort of privilege?
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Fossil 06/27/19 9:58:23 PM #34: |
the fuck?
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vocedelmorte 06/27/19 9:58:26 PM #35: |
eggcorn posted...
ChopinList posted...Both girls testified that he texted them a photo of his erect penis and asked for a naked selfie in return. They eventually sent the photos after first resisting, the girls testified. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 06/27/19 10:00:36 PM #36: |
That's kind of bullshit that only he was charged.
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eston 06/27/19 10:04:17 PM #37: |
That's pretty messed up, but for those asking why the girls aren't being charged it's pretty obvious. They did not ask for nude photos from him
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OpenlyGator 06/27/19 10:04:25 PM #38: |
Offworlder1 posted...
TomNook20 posted...The short term solution is to not give stupid sentences based on stupid laws. Stop victim blaming. The average 15 year old is not going to fully comprehend the ramifications of that and the impact it's going to have on their future adult life. This ruling is ruthlessly unnecessary and unjustified. --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 06/27/19 10:09:11 PM #39: |
eston posted...
That's pretty messed up, but for those asking why the girls aren't being charged it's pretty obvious. They did not ask for nude photos from him They still technically possessed "child pornography" though, and might *still* possess it if the photo is still on their phones. Hell, they technically *produced* child pornography when they sent him back nudes of themselves. Pretty sure in some states that production is as bad, if not worse, then possession. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asagi_mode_gone 06/27/19 10:13:46 PM #40: |
Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls.
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The Catgirl Fondler 06/27/19 10:26:43 PM #41: |
asagi_mode_gone posted...
Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. All I'm asking for is fairness and said as much earlier; "Either they're all in trouble, or they all get to be scot-free." --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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friendbuddypal 06/27/19 10:27:39 PM #42: |
The Catgirl Fondler posted...
asagi_mode_gone posted...Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. No you don't understand, he asked them for nudes so they were LITERALLY forced to send them via COERCION. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asagi_mode_gone 06/27/19 10:31:28 PM #44: |
friendbuddypal posted...
The Catgirl Fondler posted...asagi_mode_gone posted...Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. He initiated it by sending unsolicited nudes to them. And he requested them from the girls repeatedly. Have you ever done either of those things, just send or request nudes out of the blue, Mr... Catgirl Fondler? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Wheelman1 06/27/19 10:32:37 PM #45: |
If a 15 year old girl send nudes, the boy is a sex offender, girl goes free.
If a 15 year old boy sends nudes, the boy is a sex offender. The laws are so biased it's insane. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GallisOTK 06/27/19 10:35:38 PM #46: |
LookANinja posted...
If they want to be consistent then the girls should be charged too. One was even older than the kid. Sage JJ posted... What about the girls? Shouldn't they get the same punishment? The Catgirl Fondler posted... That's kind of bullshit that only he was charged. The Wheelman1 posted... If a 15 year old girl send nudes, the boy is a sex offender --- "WHAT THE HELL'S GOIN' ON OUT HERE!?" ~ Vince Lombardi https://imgtc.com/i/rGEHq8T.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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inloveanddeath0 06/27/19 10:37:35 PM #47: |
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The Catgirl Fondler 06/27/19 10:42:06 PM #48: |
asagi_mode_gone posted...
friendbuddypal posted...The Catgirl Fondler posted...asagi_mode_gone posted...Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. He sent nudes that they may still possess (I don't think the article makes that clear), and then they sent nudes back by their own volition. If the boy is going to be rung up on production/possession of child pornography, then the girls are equally guilty in that regards. And no, I don't send or request nudes. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asagi_mode_gone 06/27/19 10:44:37 PM #49: |
The Catgirl Fondler posted...
asagi_mode_gone posted...friendbuddypal posted...The Catgirl Fondler posted...asagi_mode_gone posted...Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. Now, I definitely agree with you that him getting made a sex offender is excessive. But it's not as though anything the girls did is creepy or harmful. What he did definitely is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vocedelmorte 06/27/19 10:45:16 PM #50: |
The Catgirl Fondler posted...
asagi_mode_gone posted...friendbuddypal posted...The Catgirl Fondler posted...asagi_mode_gone posted...Awful lot of people who are trying to deny the severity of the boy's actions by blaming the girls. The issue is still that he was the one who initiated this nudes exchange, im not sure about what he did to pressure them to send him the nudes in return. So he is still the one to blame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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