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DevsChum 06/25/19 9:57:45 AM #1:	Half the time it's the villain who explains the story to us. Why do we believe him? --- This is the account I use when I want to make more than ten topics on CE in one day. <cite>DevsChum posted [p:923817302] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Half the time it's the villain who explains the story to us. Why do we believe him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 06/25/19 9:58:29 AM #2:	Why do we always assume he's the villain --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:923817337] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Why do we always assume he's the villain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monkhood 06/25/19 10:00:53 AM #3:	Did you just assume the villain's gender?! --- Highly offensive and illegal materiel. <cite>Monkhood posted [p:923817431] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 06/25/19 10:01:14 AM #4:	Because the villain is YOU --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:923817439] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Because the villain is YOU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/25/19 10:01:36 AM #5:	SageHarpuia posted... Why do we always assume he's the villain Sounds like something a villain would say. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:923817451] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Why do we always assume he's the villain</quote> Sounds like something a villain would say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/25/19 10:02:19 AM #6:	Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! Villain: I am proud of you, DevsBro! --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:923817475] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> Villain: I am proud of you, DevsBro!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/25/19 10:02:53 AM #7:	usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:923817489] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 06/25/19 10:03:37 AM #8:	Is this about that Saved by the Bell article that claimed Zack Morris was actually the villain? --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:923817517] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Is this about that Saved by the Bell article that claimed Zack Morris was actually the villain?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/25/19 10:04:12 AM #9:	Balrog0 posted... usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie Other than being a villain. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:923817540] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie</quote> Other than being a villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/25/19 10:05:45 AM #10:	Balrog0 posted... usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie This basically. Plus letting the party know how utterly inconsequential they are going to be in stopping what's been done as well as what's coming, that isn't something worth bluffing or lying about. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:923817603] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie</quote> This basically. Plus letting the party know how utterly inconsequential they are going to be in stopping what's been done as well as what's coming, that isn't something worth bluffing or lying about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slmcknett 06/25/19 10:05:53 AM #11:	Because then you have scenarios like in Bleach where the villain lies every time and no one has any clue what's going on --- https://imgur.com/1LrhmQE Kari Wahlgren: "Guys, I just can't wrap my mouth around it." <cite>slmcknett posted [p:923817607] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>Because then you have scenarios like in Bleach where the villain lies every time and no one has any clue what's going on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/25/19 10:06:56 AM #12:	slmcknett posted... Because then you have scenarios like in Bleach where the villain lies every time and no one has any clue what's going on Not even natural selection can take place here --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:923817644] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>slmcknett posted...</cite> <quote>Because then you have scenarios like in Bleach where the villain lies every time and no one has any clue what's going on</quote> Not even natural selection can take place here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/25/19 10:07:37 AM #13:	DevsBro posted... Balrog0 posted... usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie Other than being a villain. dishonesty is a character trait that some good people have, and some bad people have, I don't think it's a unifying trait all villains share though --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:923817661] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie</quote> Other than being a villain.</quote> dishonesty is a character trait that some good people have, and some bad people have, I don't think it's a unifying trait all villains share though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/25/19 10:10:15 AM #14:	DevsBro posted... Balrog0 posted... usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie Other than being a villain. That just means their goals might be at ends with one another. I can name a handful of villains who are the good guy, they just became the enemy of the party for whatever reason. "We can save the world like this, or we could just use that super weapon to destroy the enemy empire that has historically subjugated us off and on for millennia." "Some experiment I performed years ago to benefit all of mankind came at the cost of the lives of a dozen girls, and it has filled me with regret since then, but everything I've done has been to maintain order, civility, and to benefit the populace, it's only a cruel joke that she became friends with you of all people, but if you want your revenge you know where to find me." --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:923817749] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>usually because it is told in a scenario where the villain has no reason to lie</quote> Other than being a villain.</quote> That just means their goals might be at ends with one another. I can name a handful of villains who are the good guy, they just became the enemy of the party for whatever reason. "We can save the world like this, or we could just use that super weapon to destroy the enemy empire that has historically subjugated us off and on for millennia." "Some experiment I performed years ago to benefit all of mankind came at the cost of the lives of a dozen girls, and it has filled me with regret since then, but everything I've done has been to maintain order, civility, and to benefit the populace, it's only a cruel joke that she became friends with you of all people, but if you want your revenge you know where to find me."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/25/19 10:13:45 AM #15:	Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys only have one joke --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:923817895] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys only have one joke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/25/19 10:13:55 AM #16:	I think it's something that could be interesting and be worthwhile to deploy more widely in media but it would need a lot of set up to work effectively and not just as a twist. Also, it would probably go over the heads of a lot of people and result in endless threads online about how person had found a plot hole or w/e --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:923817902] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote>I think it's something that could be interesting and be worthwhile to deploy more widely in media but it would need a lot of set up to work effectively and not just as a twist. Also, it would probably go over the heads of a lot of people and result in endless threads online about how person had found a plot hole or w/e</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/25/19 10:14:02 AM #17:	averagejoel posted... Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys only have one joke --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:923817907] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys only have one joke</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Summarizer 06/25/19 10:18:41 AM #18:	averagejoel posted... Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys did you just --- Nothing but the truth, insofar as I interpret it. <cite>Summarizer posted [p:923818086] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys</quote> did you just</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/25/19 10:26:47 AM #19:	Summarizer posted... averagejoel posted... Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys did you just see? there it is again --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:923818379] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>Summarizer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys</quote> did you just</quote> see? there it is again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/25/19 10:27:40 AM #20:	NinjaBreakfast posted... I think it's something that could be interesting and be worthwhile to deploy more widely in media but it would need a lot of set up to work effectively and not just as a twist. Also, it would probably go over the heads of a lot of people and result in endless threads online about how person had found a plot hole or w/e unreliable characters definitely exist, though... and we do see villains lie all the time, especially retrospectively as their schemes are revealed to us its just that there are also plenty of james bond villain exposition scenarios where there's no narrative reason for the villain to lie, and fiction would be really difficult to interpret if we assumed people were lying for no good reason i mean saying that we should not trust him because he's the villain is the same level of analysis as something like "he was a villain, I could tell because he was wearing black" I think it's a pretty shallow take --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:923818411] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's something that could be interesting and be worthwhile to deploy more widely in media but it would need a lot of set up to work effectively and not just as a twist. Also, it would probably go over the heads of a lot of people and result in endless threads online about how person had found a plot hole or w/e</quote> unreliable characters definitely exist, though... and we do see villains lie all the time, especially retrospectively as their schemes are revealed to us its just that there are also plenty of james bond villain exposition scenarios where there's no narrative reason for the villain to lie, and fiction would be really difficult to interpret if we assumed people were lying for no good reason i mean saying that we should not trust him because he's the villain is the same level of analysis as something like "he was a villain, I could tell because he was wearing black" I think it's a pretty shallow take</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/25/19 10:28:50 AM #21:	averagejoel posted... Summarizer posted... averagejoel posted... Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys did you just see? there it is again Caln down dude --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:923818456] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Summarizer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys</quote> did you just</quote> see? there it is again</quote> Caln down dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 06/25/19 10:44:08 AM #22:	averagejoel posted... Summarizer posted... averagejoel posted... Monkhood posted... Did you just assume the villain's gender?! you guys did you just see? there it is again You did walk right into that one... --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:923819035] in Why do we ... [t:77817526]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Summarizer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monkhood posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just assume the villain's gender?!</quote> you guys</quote> did you just</quote> see? there it is again</quote> You did walk right into that one...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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