Current Events > You agree with Trump's decision to not strike back?

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/21/19 4:42:23 PM
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In an interview with Meet the Press host Chuck Todd, the president said that about 30 minutes before the operation was to take place, his national security team came to him and asked for his final decision.

"I said, I want to know something before you go," Trump recalled. "How many people will be killed in this case, Iranians. I said, how many people are going to be killed?"

His military team said it would find out, Trump told Todd, and came back with the answer that approximately 150 people would very likely die.

The president said:

"I thought about it for a second and I said, you know what, they shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it, and here we are sitting with 150 dead people, that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead.

"And I didn't like it. I didn't think I didn't think it was proportionate."


In the international community, the president's reversal is likely to be perceived as "somewhat indecisive," Stavridis said. It could also signal that members of Trump's national security team might be at odds with one another, he noted, adding that there is currently no confirmed secretary of defense.


"There was complete unanimity amongst the president's advisers and DOD leadership on an appropriate response to Iran's activities."


Its also fun to point out that the drone that was shot down, the RQ-4 Global Hawk, costs between $176-220 million dollars. Why it costs so much, I dont know
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SoundNetwork
06/21/19 4:47:29 PM
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Good man trump
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0xDEFECADE
06/21/19 4:48:02 PM
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yeah
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Houston
06/21/19 5:01:24 PM
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And people say Trump is too impulsive.

Very cool, very calculated and very legal
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Gobstoppers12
06/21/19 5:05:36 PM
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I'm for anything that doesn't escalate conflict.
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Politics
06/21/19 5:07:42 PM
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Honestly the ONE thing I was hoping for out of Trump was that we wouldn't get too involved in the Middle East. If he stays true to that I will at least respect him somewhat.
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metralo
06/21/19 5:08:58 PM
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Houston posted...
And people say Trump is too impulsive.

Very cool, very calculated and very legal


the fact that they had everything ready to go before even thinking about casualties is absolutely fucking barbaric and stupid
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MC_BatCommander
06/21/19 5:17:56 PM
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Yes, last thing we need is another war.
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littlebro07
06/21/19 5:34:38 PM
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Yeah, considering how many more people than 150 would have definitely died from it in the long run
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/21/19 8:13:11 PM
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Wonder why everyone around him said it was a good idea unanimously
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1NfamousACE_2
06/21/19 8:14:06 PM
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I don't understand why we know this information
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BandofMedz
06/21/19 8:14:27 PM
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Thanks Trump for making Iran great again
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/21/19 8:15:33 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
I don't understand why we know this information


Cause Trump does what Trump wants
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Guide
06/21/19 8:15:50 PM
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Literally "alright let's go"

'sir did you consider the casualties'

"oh lol"
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Alteres
06/21/19 8:17:32 PM
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Guide posted...
Literally "alright let's go"

'sir did you consider the casualties'

"oh lol"

That is some awful spin.

Try harder.
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metralo
06/21/19 8:41:02 PM
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Alteres posted...
Guide posted...
Literally "alright let's go"

'sir did you consider the casualties'

"oh lol"

That is some awful spin.

Try harder.


there is no spin here
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Gafemage
06/21/19 8:44:32 PM
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Gonna screencap this ratio now since it probably won't last:

sdq3T0X
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Umbreon
06/21/19 8:47:35 PM
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There's a saying about a broken clock.

No one should want a war.
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tennisdude818
06/21/19 8:51:19 PM
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The cost of that drone is, what? A couple months worth of welfare for Israel? Yeah, he made the right decision.
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tennisdude818
06/21/19 8:52:27 PM
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Guide posted...
Literally "alright let's go"

'sir did you consider the casualties'

"oh lol"


He did... so he stopped
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Paragon21XX
06/21/19 8:53:23 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
The cost of that drone is, what? A couple months worth of welfare for Israel? Yeah, he made the right decision.

This post gets a yikes from me.
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Guide
06/22/19 12:25:38 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Guide posted...
Literally "alright let's go"

'sir did you consider the casualties'

"oh lol"


He did... so he stopped


You understand that this is something that should be done long before anything comes close to being enacted?
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HiddenRoar
06/22/19 12:34:31 AM
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Guide posted...
You understand that this is something that should be done long before anything comes close to being enacted?


Only if you had invasion in mind, would you need to calculate potential casualties.

So when, in your opinion, did you wanted Trump to have figure out the numbers? Immediately after receiving word that the Drone was shot down (Which wasn't that long ago before the decision of pulling back was made anyways)? When they bombed that ship with mines? When Iran stated they would/may restart enrichment? When the Iran deal was cut?

Sorry bro, but too far back and you'll start to look like a warhawk.

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CADE FOSTER
06/22/19 12:39:56 AM
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Questionmarktarius
06/22/19 12:42:50 AM
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A US-Iran war serves no useful purpose for anyone, give or take Grumman.

Unless, of course, it's the cornerstone of a "Sleeping Giant" foreign policy: Don't fuck with us, and your country won't be a green glass parking within half an hour
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sktgamer_13dude
06/22/19 12:44:04 AM
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The fact that this question wasnt brought up during the meetings when they were deciding what to do is just....sad.

I mean, I cant lie, I like that hes actually thinking about casualty counts and whatnot, but this is something that should have been brought up in the meetings, not like 20 minutes before it was going to happen.
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Questionmarktarius
06/22/19 12:45:29 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
I mean, I cant lie, I like that hes actually thinking about casualty counts and whatnot, but this is something that should have been brought up in the meetings, not like 20 minutes before it was going to happen.

"20 minutes before" may well have been the meetings.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/22/19 1:24:54 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
I mean, I cant lie, I like that hes actually thinking about casualty counts and whatnot, but this is something that should have been brought up in the meetings, not like 20 minutes before it was going to happen.

"20 minutes before" may well have been the meetings.

20 minutes before the strike was to take place was not the meetings, considering the ask for the final decision didnt take place till ~30 minutes before it was to take place.
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Banjo2553
06/22/19 1:44:40 AM
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He makes a lot of dumb decisions and statements. This wasn't one of them. Thank God he didn't start a war.
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Guide
06/22/19 1:44:43 AM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Guide posted...
You understand that this is something that should be done long before anything comes close to being enacted?


Only if you had invasion in mind, would you need to calculate potential casualties.

So when, in your opinion, did you wanted Trump to have figure out the numbers? Immediately after receiving word that the Drone was shot down (Which wasn't that long ago before the decision of pulling back was made anyways)? When they bombed that ship with mines? When Iran stated they would/may restart enrichment? When the Iran deal was cut?

Sorry bro, but too far back and you'll start to look like a warhawk.

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somewhere before the fucking penultimate step
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gguirao
06/22/19 1:45:08 AM
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Yes.
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Hicks233
06/22/19 2:03:41 AM
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Proportional response might make the Neocons screech, it might make Israel and Saudi screech.

But it's a good thing.

No more fucking around in the sand pit.
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