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BTB 06/09/19 2:54:15 PM #1:	So, today I need to bitch about one of the most awful yet ubiquitous design flaws in video games, which is the inexplicable need to accompany repetitive sound effects - generally voice clips in anything even remotely modern - with player actions that will be performed approximately several thousand times over the course of an hour's worth of gameplay. Bonus "fuck you" points for effects that aren't cute/funny the first time you hear them, let alone the millionth. What bothers me most about this is the apparent complete lack of understanding on the developers' parts about just how obnoxious this shit is. It seems exactly like the kind idea that some empty-headed fuckhead executive would come up with, or maybe even just a bored coder, but literally 30 seconds of actual gameplay testing should reveal to even the most stubborn of creators what a horrible abomination their efforts have wrought and that it clearly needs to be destroyed for the sake of all humanity. Yet, even after over twenty years of this practice becoming commonplace, not a single developer has seemingly ever been forced to endure their own creation or witness a single player scream, "OH MY GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHY WON'T YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH YOU PIXELLATED PIECE OF DOG SHIT JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP I HATE YOU." And again, this is not something I can peg on a single developer. This is something pretty much everyone started doing around the late 90's and ostensibly the only thing preventing them from doing it before that was the technical limitations of the 8 and 16-bit eras (which still managed to torture us with that incessant "low health" beep that gives me Guantanamo flashbacks every time I hear it). That said, there certainly are companies who are worse offenders than others. Take, for example, one of my favorite games of all-time, Super Mario Bros. 2 (US). Extolling upon its many virtues is a topic for a different day, but one of its flaws was that it didn't do much to force a player to thoroughly explore through its levels once they already knew the best way through them. The GBA remake addressed that issue with the addition of collectibles in the form of Super Mario World's "dragon coin" system. What it also did was shit so badly on the entire game with the problem I mentioned above that the damn thing is fucking unplayable to anyone with working eardrums. Charles Martinet, better known as the voice of Mario and the various genetic accidents that he's seemingly(?) related to, is a nice guy. I'll forever be in the "Captain" Lou Albano camp of what Mario should really sound like, but Charles has the notable advantage of still being alive. I've actually gotten to meet Charles and I think he does a good enough job and is a pleasant person. That said, through absolutely no fault of his own, pretty much everything Nintendo has ever done with his voice has made me want to strangle him. Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNIY2Z5T8Jc" data-time="&start=81 I'm so sorry, Charles. You didn't deserve this. And neither did we. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:923012994] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>So, today I need to bitch about one of the most awful yet ubiquitous design flaws in video games, which is the inexplicable need to accompany repetitive sound effects - generally voice clips in anything even remotely modern - with player actions that will be performed approximately several thousand times over the course of an hour's worth of gameplay. Bonus "fuck you" points for effects that aren't cute/funny the first time you hear them, let alone the millionth. What bothers me most about this is the apparent complete lack of understanding on the developers' parts about just how obnoxious this shit is. It seems exactly like the kind idea that some empty-headed fuckhead executive would come up with, or maybe even just a bored coder, but literally 30 seconds of actual gameplay testing should reveal to even the most stubborn of creators what a horrible abomination their efforts have wrought and that it clearly needs to be destroyed for the sake of all humanity. Yet, even after over twenty years of this practice becoming commonplace, not a single developer has seemingly ever been forced to endure their own creation or witness a single player scream, "OH MY GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHY WON'T YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH YOU PIXELLATED PIECE OF DOG SHIT JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP I HATE YOU." And again, this is not something I can peg on a single developer. This is something pretty much everyone started doing around the late 90's and ostensibly the only thing preventing them from doing it before that was the technical limitations of the 8 and 16-bit eras (which still managed to torture us with that incessant "low health" beep that gives me Guantanamo flashbacks every time I hear it). That said, there certainly are companies who are worse offenders than others. Take, for example, one of my favorite games of all-time, Super Mario Bros. 2 (US). Extolling upon its many virtues is a topic for a different day, but one of its flaws was that it didn't do much to force a player to thoroughly explore through its levels once they already knew the best way through them. The GBA remake addressed that issue with the addition of collectibles in the form of Super Mario World's "dragon coin" system. What it also did was shit so badly on the entire game with the problem I mentioned above that the damn thing is fucking unplayable to anyone with working eardrums. Charles Martinet, better known as the voice of Mario and the various genetic accidents that he's seemingly(?) related to, is a nice guy. I'll forever be in the "Captain" Lou Albano camp of what Mario should really sound like, but Charles has the notable advantage of still being alive. I've actually gotten to meet Charles and I think he does a good enough job and is a pleasant person. That said, through absolutely no fault of his own, pretty much everything Nintendo has ever done with his voice has made me want to strangle him. Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNIY2Z5T8Jc" data-time="&start=81 I'm so sorry, Charles. You didn't deserve this. And neither did we.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/09/19 2:58:52 PM #2:	Cool Story Bro --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:923013183] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Cool Story Bro</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 06/09/19 2:59:00 PM #3:	Where did you learn to fly? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:923013185] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Where did you learn to fly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
keyblader1985 06/09/19 5:08:19 PM #4:	Did you just fucking insult Luigi? --- Official King of PotD You only need one T-Rex to make the point, though. ~ Samus Sedai <cite>keyblader1985 posted [p:923019800] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Did you just fucking insult Luigi?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 06/09/19 5:25:04 PM #6:	eee, aww, ahh! Ack! My infinite power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4orfTJyiSk" data-time=" --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:923020950] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>eee, aww, ahh! Ack! My infinite power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4orfTJyiSk" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevilSummoner1 06/09/19 6:27:44 PM #7:	0/10 --- featuring dante from the devil may cry series <cite>DevilSummoner1 posted [p:923025132] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>0/10</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 06/09/19 6:37:40 PM #8:	BTB posted... which is the inexplicable need to accompany repetitive sound effects - generally voice clips in anything even remotely modern - with player actions that will be performed approximately several thousand times over the course of an hour's worth of gameplay. I feel you bring up a good point and am glad Lord of the Rings Online has a filter options that lets you block certain audio sounds. I play a minstrel and certain attack with our instrument became a nuisance to keep hearing. That being said, I feel majority of the time the repetitive sound effects are usually subtle enough that I wouldn't notice it and/or something else in the gameplay at the time of the sound effects grabs my attention instead. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:923025674] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>BTB posted...</cite> <quote>which is the inexplicable need to accompany repetitive sound effects - generally voice clips in anything even remotely modern - with player actions that will be performed approximately several thousand times over the course of an hour's worth of gameplay.</quote> I feel you bring up a good point and am glad Lord of the Rings Online has a filter options that lets you block certain audio sounds. I play a minstrel and certain attack with our instrument became a nuisance to keep hearing. That being said, I feel majority of the time the repetitive sound effects are usually subtle enough that I wouldn't notice it and/or something else in the gameplay at the time of the sound effects grabs my attention instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lousy_Fellow 06/09/19 6:45:03 PM #9:	Can relate. I fucking hate Yoshi's helium voice. Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLsam-7QUA" data-time=" --- The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage. <cite>Lousy_Fellow posted [p:923026090] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Can relate. I fucking hate Yoshi's helium voice. Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLsam-7QUA" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 06/09/19 7:00:44 PM #10:	Mario is aimed at children, not 30+ yo gamers Lousy_Fellow posted... Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLsam-7QUA" data-time=" ...but ok, that is a good example of what OP was complaining about --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:923026915] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Mario is aimed at children, not 30+ yo gamers <cite>Lousy_Fellow posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLsam-7QUA" data-time="</quote> ...but ok, that is a good example of what OP was complaining about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/09/19 7:01:21 PM #11:	I'm sure they ~~won't~~ TC. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:923026946] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure they won't TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
keyblader1985 06/09/19 7:40:40 PM #12:	Sahuagin posted... Mario is aimed at children, not 30+ yo gamers There's a difference between family-oriented games and child-oriented ones; Nintendo games are usually the former. --- Official King of PotD You only need one T-Rex to make the point, though. ~ Samus Sedai <cite>keyblader1985 posted [p:923028824] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>Mario is aimed at children, not 30+ yo gamers</quote> There's a difference between family-oriented games and child-oriented ones; Nintendo games are usually the former.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 06/10/19 2:16:16 PM #13:	keyblader1985 posted... Did you just fucking insult Luigi? On my site, that text is a link to Waluigi. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:923066896] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>Did you just fucking insult Luigi?</quote> On my site, that text is a link to Waluigi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 06/10/19 2:21:15 PM #14:	Let me get this straight, you think `every` game developer needs to read your post? lol, k. Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music? --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:923067153] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Let me get this straight, you think every game developer needs to read your post? lol, k. Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 06/10/19 2:48:32 PM #15:	Viking_Mudcrap posted... Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music? That was me, yes. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:923068496] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music?</quote> That was me, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Always_Die 06/10/19 3:29:20 PM #16:	this is a really dumb complaint lmao so characters shouldnt make any noise more than once in a game? fuck off --- come at me <cite>I_Always_Die posted [p:923070567] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>this is a really dumb complaint lmao so characters shouldnt make any noise more than once in a game? fuck off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 06/10/19 4:10:44 PM #17:	How eloquently stated. You really made a well thought-out point. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:923072572] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>How eloquently stated. You really made a well thought-out point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Always_Die 06/10/19 4:44:21 PM #18:	you didnt really make a well-thought out point either, big dawg. mostly just calling devs stupid for you being insanely irritable. --- come at me <cite>I_Always_Die posted [p:923074295] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>you didnt really make a well-thought out point either, big dawg. mostly just calling devs stupid for you being insanely irritable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 06/10/19 5:40:06 PM #19:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDRZ7EOU4Vw" data-time=" --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:923077603] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDRZ7EOU4Vw" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 06/10/19 8:22:02 PM #20:	It's a good point YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY - THE MORE THE MERRIER --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:923085203] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>It's a good point YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY - THE MORE THE MERRIER</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 06/10/19 8:26:33 PM #21:	I agree. a loud HYAHH every time you slash with your sword is annoying. Bonus points if the sound isn't synced well with quick attacks. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:923085421] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>I agree. a loud HYAHH every time you slash with your sword is annoying. Bonus points if the sound isn't synced well with quick attacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/10/19 8:40:57 PM #22:	Some games are really annoying about it, others it isnt that noticeable imo --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:923086083] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Some games are really annoying about it, others it isnt that noticeable imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilentSeph 06/10/19 9:10:08 PM #23:	Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time=" --- Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious. <cite>SilentSeph posted [p:923087593] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 06/10/19 9:43:59 PM #24:	Jump Jump Slide Slide Jump Jump Jump Jump --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:923090053] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Jump Jump Slide Slide Jump Jump Jump Jump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 06/10/19 10:33:10 PM #25:	This actually doesn't bother me at all, and I never would have considered someone to complain about it --- . <cite>green dragon posted [p:923094338] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>This actually doesn't bother me at all, and I never would have considered someone to complain about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanded 06/11/19 12:06:05 AM #26:	SilentSeph posted... Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time=" What the... --- FC: 3110-6550-9516 <cite>Wanded posted [p:923100530] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SilentSeph posted...</cite> <quote>Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time="</quote> What the...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 06/11/19 1:48:29 AM #27:	SilentSeph posted... Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time=" god damn that's obnoxious... can't believe that's a Mega Man X game... --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:923104626] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SilentSeph posted...</cite> <quote>Immediately thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ" data-time="</quote> god damn that's obnoxious... can't believe that's a Mega Man X game...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/11/19 2:16:54 AM #28:	Cant help but notice that all the examples so far are from eastern developers --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:923105416] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>Cant help but notice that all the examples so far are from eastern developers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 06/11/19 2:17:50 AM #29:	Mead posted... Cant help but notice that all the examples so far are from eastern developers "I've not set" "Regrettably" --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:923105434] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Cant help but notice that all the examples so far are from eastern developers</quote> "I've not set" "Regrettably"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 06/11/19 3:32:43 PM #30:	BTB posted... Viking_Mudcrap posted... Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music? That was me, yes. Oh man, you had this one Gerudo Valley that was fire. I tried lots of time finding it, but I don't even think I remember how it went. --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:923142193] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote><cite>BTB posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>Also, BTB, werent you that dude who would post lots of videogame music?</quote> That was me, yes.</quote> Oh man, you had this one Gerudo Valley that was fire. I tried lots of time finding it, but I don't even think I remember how it went.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 06/11/19 3:59:30 PM #31:	definitely an issue in some games, but it's calmed down over the years. as usual you're overblowing things because you hate any game that came out after 1995. >_> --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:923144173] in I feel lik... [t:77773788]...</cite> <quote>definitely an issue in some games, but it's calmed down over the years. as usual you're overblowing things because you hate any game that came out after 1995. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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