Current Events > Google Stadia's big reveal today

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I'm in the somewhat category. I don't care about the HD 4K, mumbo jumbo, and all that. I'm curious about the game lineup, and of course, the pricing.
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Literally don't care about the Stadia at all but am interested to see if Baldur's Gate 3 is announced during it.
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There is no "The Stadia"

That's like saying "The Netflix" or "The Spotify"
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No. Streaming games is utter shit and so is Google.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

There is no "The Stadia"

That's like saying "The Netflix" or "The Spotify"

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why stadia? is it a stadium?
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Details are leak sound like crap

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-leak-lapresse-ca-details-the-google-stadia-price-release-date-launch-details-line-up.121269/
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- Launch in November in 14 countries (including Canada)
- You can preorder the "founder's edition" of Stadia for 169$ today, which includes the gamepad, a Chromecast Ultra (which is 6cm in length), Destiny 2 and three months of subscription

- Stadia works through a subscription only at first. The Stadia Pro sub costs 11.99$ per month and will include streaming up to 4K/60fps. Note that only "older" games will be included in this sub, and more recent games will have to be bought separately.

- A separate sub will be available in 2020, and is completely free. It'll only allow up to 1080p streaming, and won't include any game like the Pro sub.

- 10mbps in download/1mbp in upload is the minimal requirement, with 35mbps required for 4K "optimal comfort".

- You'll need the Chromecast for Stadia to work at launch, but it's planned to work through any Google device with Google Chrome in 2020.

- Games planned include Destiny 2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, The Divison 2, DOOM, all three Tomb Raider games.

- Line-up will have 31 games at launch.

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games i've already played. lame
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Def gonna wait a couple years to see how this does
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Shit like this simply won't work in the majority of the USA. Our internet is dogshit compared to a lot of other countries. Our service providers are goddamn evil.
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SaccharineSmile posted...

- Launch in November in 14 countries (including Canada)
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*snickers*
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BillyKidd posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

- Launch in November in 14 countries (including Canada)
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*snickers*

yeah was that a dig
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SaccharineSmile posted...

- A separate sub will be available in 2020, and is completely free. It'll only allow up to 1080p streaming, and won't include any game like the Pro sub.

Am I missing something, because what's the point of a free sub if the sub doesn't even have any games to play?

If leaked reports are true, i think the $9 month sub is the right price, but the games available are complete garbage and they better have some better shit on there if they want any chance lol
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MordecaiRocks posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

- A separate sub will be available in 2020, and is completely free. It'll only allow up to 1080p streaming, and won't include any game like the Pro sub.

Am I missing something, because what's the point of a free sub if the sub doesn't even have any games to play?

If you just want to buy each game individually like you do now instead
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If the leaks are true then this thing is a piece of garbage.
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solosnake posted...

If leaked reports are true, i think the $9 month sub is the right price, but the games available are complete garbage and they better have some better shit on there if they want any chance lol

It's not likely that the leak contained a comprehensive list of games. They're going to want the most popular games on it since this is basically just a plug-in service for YouTube.
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Man, I hope there's atleast 1 title that will be a complete suprise. (PSO2, Dragon Dogma Online)
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MordecaiRocks posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

- A separate sub will be available in 2020, and is completely free. It'll only allow up to 1080p streaming, and won't include any game like the Pro sub.

Am I missing something, because what's the point of a free sub if the sub doesn't even have any games to play?

i think the intention is that you can play the games you "own" and won't have to pay a monthly fee to access/stream them.
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Welp, here's the list of the games for Nov. Posted from another board.

Bandai Namco "Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2"
Bethesda "DOOM Eternal," "DOOM 2016," "Rage 2," "The Elder Scrolls Online," "Wolfenstein: Youngblood"
Bungie "Destiny 2"
Coatsink "Get Packed"
Codemasters "GRID"
Deep Silver "Metro Exodus"
Drool "Thumper"
Giants Software "Farming Simulator 19"
Larian Studios "Baldurs Gate 3"
nWay Games "Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid"
Sega "Football Manager"
SNK "Samurai Shodown"
Square Enix "Final Fantasy XV," "Tomb Raider Definitive Edition," "Rise of the Tomb Raider," "Shadow of the Tomb Raider"
2K "NBA 2K," "Borderlands 3"
Tequila Works "Gylt"
Warner Bros Mortal Kombat 11
THQ "Darksiders Genesis"
Ubisoft "Assassins Creed Odyssey," "Just Dance," "Tom Clancys Ghost Recon Breakpoint," "Tom Clancys The Division 2," "Trials Rising," "The Crew 2"

Pass.

Sega "Football Manager"

Sigh. Oh Sega. You are what you are.
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So requires better internet than what I have, costs out the ass initially and requires a subscription whether or not I'm playing (and no, I'm not freaking canceling it briefly every time I think I might not play for a month), have a bunch of games I'm not interested in, in a service that I don't think will particularly last or get long time support

That's a big nope for me folks
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Wtf google you should know what I want already and it's not this.
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How the hell will playing fighting games online work with all the lag?
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refmon posted...

How the hell will playing fighting games online work with all the lag?

They've pretty much tested that the lag isn't significant.
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Biggest gaming failure since the N-gage?
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refmon posted...

How the hell will playing fighting games online work with all the lag?

Yeah it's one of my worries. If it's going to anything like PS Now it will suck greatly.
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Goats posted...

Biggest gaming failure since the N-gage?

I don't think it'll be that big of a failure. But it certainly won't last unless the reception after release is unexpectedly positive.

I doubt it though
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Streaming services are the future but it isn't the future yet. They are pretty crap right now. Probably be 20 years before they replace consoles.

Grischnak posted...

Streaming services are the future but it isn't the future yet. They are pretty crap right now. Probably be 20 years before they replace consoles.

They've been saying the same shit about VR too.
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Veggeta X posted...

refmon posted...

How the hell will playing fighting games online work with all the lag?

Yeah it's one of my worries. If it's going to anything like PS Now it will suck greatly.

According to google, the problem with services like PS Now is the literal physical distance to the server. Google is saying that because their servers are always close by, you will not have the issue with Stadia that you will have with PS Now.

Microsoft has a similar infrastructure with Azure and it explains why Sony is dumping their internal infrastructure plan to host their PS Now services on Azure because they know it will work and their current PS Now system does not.
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Veggeta X posted...

Grischnak posted...

Streaming services are the future but it isn't the future yet. They are pretty crap right now. Probably be 20 years before they replace consoles.

They've been saying the same shit about VR too.

VR has not only not gone anywhere, we've seen increased adoption rates.
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We're multiple decades away from game streaming being a thing
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Lag/Delay wasn't AWFUL when i used to do this thing with my Nvidia tablet with GeForce Experience. I'm sure google has found a way to improve it further.
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Irony posted...

We're multiple decades away from game streaming being a thing

Nah, not really.
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Irony posted...

We're multiple decades away from game streaming being a thing

It's here and now. We'll see it for sure on November
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Have fun with that belief
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Veggeta X posted...

Grischnak posted...

Streaming services are the future but it isn't the future yet. They are pretty crap right now. Probably be 20 years before they replace consoles.

They've been saying the same shit about VR too.

Yeah and people said DVDs would replace VHS tapes...and they did. If technology reaches a point where streaming games actually works for most people then it will become the standard. Just look at the mobile gaming market. There is no discs or console equivalent. You just download games and play. Tech will reach a point where high quality games function the same way. It's just a matter of time. As for VR, that's a gameplay gimmick not a distribution method. Not really the same thing.

Cloud gaming will only replace console gaming once the big 3 all decide to adopt it. As duh~ as that sounds, in the end, in the video game sphere, the majority of the service comes from people who actually make the games, which is why the objectively most flexible and powerful PC isn't devouring all the consoles on the market.

Higher technology existing (with or without in a perfect form) has never been the sole deciding factor of where an industry will go. A better comparison here is actually DVD vs. Laserdiscs. Laserdiscs have higher quality pictures, but DVDs can decide which scenes to watch. Neither particularly trumping the other and Laserdiscs were arguably better technology. But DVDs won out
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Yeah, internet is not reliable enough in the states for me to be comfortable with this
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legendarylemur posted...

Cloud gaming will only replace console gaming once the big 3 all decide to adopt it. As duh~ as that sounds, in the end, in the video game sphere, the majority of the service comes from people who actually make the games, which is why the objectively most flexible and powerful PC isn't devouring all the consoles on the market.

Higher technology existing (with or without in a perfect form) has never been the sole deciding factor of where an industry will go. A better comparison here is actually DVD vs. Laserdiscs. Laserdiscs have higher quality pictures, but DVDs can decide which scenes to watch. Neither particularly trumping the other and Laserdiscs were arguably better technology. But DVDs won out

How is that a better comparison? What's going to win out over streaming? Consoles? Why? When technology catches up streaming will be a lot more convenient then consoles. There will literally be no advantages to owning a console in the super long term(which is what we're talking about). I'm sure it'll take a lot longer to phase out PCs because there's so much you can do there. But consoles? I wouldn't be surprised if there are only 3 generations yet. Maybe 4. The last 2 probably being discless.

Grischnak posted...

legendarylemur posted...

Cloud gaming will only replace console gaming once the big 3 all decide to adopt it. As duh~ as that sounds, in the end, in the video game sphere, the majority of the service comes from people who actually make the games, which is why the objectively most flexible and powerful PC isn't devouring all the consoles on the market.

Higher technology existing (with or without in a perfect form) has never been the sole deciding factor of where an industry will go. A better comparison here is actually DVD vs. Laserdiscs. Laserdiscs have higher quality pictures, but DVDs can decide which scenes to watch. Neither particularly trumping the other and Laserdiscs were arguably better technology. But DVDs won out

How is that a better comparison? What's going to win out over streaming? Consoles? Why? When technology catches up streaming will be a lot more convenient then consoles. There will literally be no advantages to owning a console in the super long term(which is what we're talking about). I'm sure it'll take a lot longer to phase out PCs because there's so much you can do there. But consoles? I wouldn't be surprised if there are only 3 generations yet. Maybe 4. The last 2 probably being discless.

Are you kidding? It's the convenience of not needing internet? It's not like streaming provides a particularly better graphic either or different games, in fact has a worse library. In this case, streaming is objectively closer to laserdisc than they are to dvd.

I'm comparing the draws to service, that technology generally doesn't become a deciding factor. You're talking technology catching up. Streaming will only be adopted once the time is right, and this ain't it
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legendarylemur posted...

Are you kidding? It's the convenience of not needing internet?

Not having internet is such a massive inconvenience that if I was going through it I'd probably be more interested in fixing that problem ASAP than I would be with gaming.
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legendarylemur posted...

Are you kidding? It's the convenience of not needing internet? It's not like streaming provides a particularly better graphic either or different games, in fact has a worse library. In this case, streaming is objectively closer to laserdisc than they are to dvd.

I'm comparing the draws to service, that technology generally doesn't become a deciding factor. You're talking technology catching up. Streaming will only be adopted once the time is right, and this ain't it

You do understand that we're talking about the somewhat far future(in terms of our lives), right? I'm not and have never once in this topic said that game consoles will be dead in 2 years or whatever the fuck you seem to be arguing. I said I think we'll probably have 3-4 console generations left. That's a long time as far as tech advances go.