Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 6 Foreal

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Yinz can do whatever yinz want. Lynch Ulti today and if he flips scum, Lynch red next and win. If he flips town, which he won't, Lynch IGCD next.

Ulti literally just said for my role to be scum igcd has to be town. Dude is just lying.

Anyways. If you Lynch me, not the worst situation. Lynch Ulti then red next and win.
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And puns igcd can't be scum with Ulti. Igcd alrdy correctly tracked me last night. He is town.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

vote: corrik

I'm going to repeat: ulti cannot be scum with that track.

Can Ulti be scum with IGCD

I'll expand a little further and say if corrik was following real logic, he'd have been pointing out igcd/ulti scumteam.

But he went hard for me and ulti which isn't logically sound. Corrik is a smart town player, but his scum play is just pure crazy.

I'm not even about to start parsing this shit tonight.

Zoning out in breath of the wild and I'll check it over tomorrow.

Corrik7 posted...

And puns igcd can't be scum with Ulti. Igcd alrdy correctly tracked me last night. He is town.

This logic does not make the conclusions you think it does.

So its either Corrik and IGCD or Ulti and Red. Either way we should win this easily. Theres no way its 10v5 with that much power right?

##Vote: Ulti

You guys are really beating the dead horse when apparently the same thing happened last game with Watcher instead of cop

Also Ulti didn't buy Scare's claim anyway so it's possible he convinced his team to strongman Han instead

It makes a lot more sense than a fake track by IGCD
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Mzero what the hell.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

To add to that, that is igcd and ulti going deep in a suicide play.

Not really believable. Calling occam's here.

Hey Corrik, remember when I said as mafia you ALWAYS have to kill Town Red on night 1 and that you were basically an idiot for thinking otherwise?

Welcome to why. And welcome to why you will never, ever be good at this game

Only explaining why red is scum with u.
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Starting to laugh at how red does nothing all game, Ulti quits the game when scanned, yet as soon as Tom is scanned, they see an angle, Ulti unquits (miraculously moved back his unforeseen surgery), red takes a stand to die for not arguing I am in any way scum based on the game but because Ulti must be town, all while conveniently ignoring that I already showed where Ulti just the prior game as town did the same thing as scum.

However, we already went over this yesterday. Ulti is scum.
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are you claiming its a fake claim or a real claim that has been influenced by a mafia role?

Also im going to repeat corrik is trying to say I'm scum with ulti.

But in that scenario. You know who calls the fucking shots?

Its me.

So whatever crazy theories hez throwing out there about ulti doing dumb things. Complete fucking bullshit.

Corrik7 posted...

Look at literally last game where Ulti throws a fit we have to strongman han because he is the best player ever and he doesn't care about janitor, ninja, or the outted watcher. It has to be a strongman on Han because Han is the best and must be shot.

So, Yes, Ulti demanded a strongman on Unclaimed Han over outted Watcher night 1 literally last game as scum. Nice try at defending but u were in that game too.

Is anyone denying that this happened? Because if it did I don't see how it's impossible that Ulti killed Scare and Tom killed Han
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MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Look at literally last game where Ulti throws a fit we have to strongman han because he is the best player ever and he doesn't care about janitor, ninja, or the outted watcher. It has to be a strongman on Han because Han is the best and must be shot.

So, Yes, Ulti demanded a strongman on Unclaimed Han over outted Watcher night 1 literally last game as scum. Nice try at defending but u were in that game too.

Is anyone denying that this happened? Because if it did I don't see how it's impossible that Ulti killed Scare and Tom killed Han

You better be ignoring corriks rant about me and ulti being scum together if this is your hill to die on.

Also, it is literally impossible I am scum due to the roles that alrdy flipped. Ulti just above said that there is only 3 scum and I am the last one, meaning IGCD is town and his track is legit.

"Oops".

At the very best, you would be arguing we are both town.

And, in that scenario, Ulti is still the best lynch cuz if he flips town then IGCD is scum.

You will notice, Red, is not logically stating that tho! Wonder why!
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Also i am checking up on something from last game be with you shortly.

I haven't called you scum a single time this game, red

gun to my head I would say puns is final scum (i think 4 makes sense)
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Corrik7 posted...

Also, it is literally impossible I am scum due to the roles that alrdy flipped. Ulti just above said that there is only 3 scum and I am the last one, meaning IGCD is town and his track is legit.

There are 4 to 5 scum ulti was being dumb.

MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Look at literally last game where Ulti throws a fit we have to strongman han because he is the best player ever and he doesn't care about janitor, ninja, or the outted watcher. It has to be a strongman on Han because Han is the best and must be shot.

So, Yes, Ulti demanded a strongman on Unclaimed Han over outted Watcher night 1 literally last game as scum. Nice try at defending but u were in that game too.

Is anyone denying that this happened? Because if it did I don't see how it's impossible that Ulti killed Scare and Tom killed Han

Red is stating that it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE that they strongmanned Han and regular killed Scare.

And his entire argument hinges on it.

Yet the elite bodyguard himself said he expected then to assassinate the cop and reg kill / roleblock Han who was confirmed town in his eyes.

Thus the elite bodyguard likely guarded Han but he was strongmanned.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Also, it is literally impossible I am scum due to the roles that alrdy flipped. Ulti just above said that there is only 3 scum and I am the last one, meaning IGCD is town and his track is legit.

There are 4 to 5 scum ulti was being dumb.

10 - 5 scum with a scum double vote, scum extra kill, and scum double vote.

Yeah, just Ulti is being dumb.

Lmfao
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For the record 10-5 extra kill town. 7-5 after day 1. Gladiator by scum day 2. Scum double vote on town. And all scum on town requires every last town to vote scum in a restricted Lynch and it is mylo day 2.

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol
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Good evening. Oh hey Corrik did the thing.

Alright so Red does raise a good point about IGCD tracking Ulti to Scare being bizarre if Ulti is scum since Tom would more likely have been the one to kill the claimed cop, but Corrik is right that Ulti might just insist on Strongmanning Han because he respects/fears him. Meanwhile, for Corrik to be scum...Gladiator isn't an extra kill exactly but it's pretty close since in practice scum can target someone they know they can beat. It's a 90% free mislynch, and this scum team already had a lynch manipulation role in the double voter. Corrik is likelier to be town than scum based on that alone.

If we lynch Ulti, it confirms IGCD one way or the other, so that guards against any sort of weird scum IGCD hero ball play. If we lynch Corrik, if he flips scum that confirms Ulti town (which makes the IGCD situation weird since we have to judge whether Ulti is just obsessed with lying about being Vanilla or if IGCD is actually scum...or this tracker framer thing exists but that seems too improbable to count on), if he flips town it doesn't really tell us anything.

Lynching Ulti seems like the better option here. Both he and Corrik have good reasons why they should be town, but Ulti's reason goes away if you assume his team made a questionable play in who to Strongman, which is not impossible, whereas Corriks reason remains solid no matter what. In terms of play, I think Corrik looks more like town than Ulti has. Ulti likely gives more information on lynch, since even if he's town he confirms one scum for us.

So I'm leaning towards lynching him right now. But I want time to think on it some more to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Also i forgot i could just check last games scumboard.

They kept the watcher(marth) roleblock locked which is actually the correct play with with a lesser player.

Scare is not a lesser player. Scare is top 3 player on the board. You say fuck that and fire away.

Leafeon13N posted...

Also im going to repeat corrik is trying to say I'm scum with ulti.

But in that scenario. You know who calls the fucking shots?

Its me.

So whatever crazy theories hez throwing out there about ulti doing dumb things. Complete fucking bullshit.

If only red weren't so busy at Disney to have read the game and had time to call them! If only! Lol.

Red is never this hostile and demanding as town btw. Coasted all game then gets demanding when game is on the line.
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Corrik7 posted...

MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Look at literally last game where Ulti throws a fit we have to strongman han because he is the best player ever and he doesn't care about janitor, ninja, or the outted watcher. It has to be a strongman on Han because Han is the best and must be shot.

So, Yes, Ulti demanded a strongman on Unclaimed Han over outted Watcher night 1 literally last game as scum. Nice try at defending but u were in that game too.

Is anyone denying that this happened? Because if it did I don't see how it's impossible that Ulti killed Scare and Tom killed Han

Red is stating that it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE that they strongmanned Han and regular killed Scare.

And his entire argument hinges on it.

Yet the elite bodyguard himself said he expected then to assassinate the cop and reg kill / roleblock Han who was confirmed town in his eyes.

Thus the elite bodyguard likely guarded Han but he was strongmanned.

Right, and his followup argument is that he would be calling the shots as scum... which means his argument really hinges on himself being scum too. Or at least someone who can stand up to Ulti. Which there aren't many in this game

Yeah, in that situation pez likely assumed Scare was getting assassinated anyway so he tried to make a play elsewhere, in which case the use of strongman on Han and normal kill on Scare was genius (other than Scare flipping vanilla lol)
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Corrik7 posted...

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol

Elite BG is a very strong role it is very possible.

Leafeon13N posted...

Also im going to repeat corrik is trying to say I'm scum with ulti.

But in that scenario. You know who calls the fucking shots?

Its me.

So whatever crazy theories hez throwing out there about ulti doing dumb things. Complete fucking bullshit.

Would you believe Scare's claim in that scenario?
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MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Look at literally last game where Ulti throws a fit we have to strongman han because he is the best player ever and he doesn't care about janitor, ninja, or the outted watcher. It has to be a strongman on Han because Han is the best and must be shot.

So, Yes, Ulti demanded a strongman on Unclaimed Han over outted Watcher night 1 literally last game as scum. Nice try at defending but u were in that game too.

Is anyone denying that this happened? Because if it did I don't see how it's impossible that Ulti killed Scare and Tom killed Han

Red is stating that it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE that they strongmanned Han and regular killed Scare.

And his entire argument hinges on it.

Yet the elite bodyguard himself said he expected then to assassinate the cop and reg kill / roleblock Han who was confirmed town in his eyes.

Thus the elite bodyguard likely guarded Han but he was strongmanned.

Right, and his followup argument is that he would be calling the shots as scum... which means his argument really hinges on himself being scum too. Or at least someone who can stand up to Ulti. Which there aren't many in this game

Yeah, in that situation pez likely assumed Scare was getting assassinated anyway so he tried to make a play elsewhere, in which case the use of strongman on Han and normal kill on Scare was genius (other than Scare flipping vanilla lol)

True. Red's argument that ulti isn't scum here is that if red is scum with him that he woulda called the shots. Good point. His town clear of Ulti makes no sense.
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Panthera posted...

and this scum team already had a lynch manipulation role in the double voter.

fantastic point. Can't see Corrik being scum here. Too much lynch manipulation for scum imo
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Corrik7 posted...

Red is never this hostile and demanding as town btw. Coasted all game then gets demanding when game is on the line.

What the holy hell are you talking about.

Someone find that game where it was corrik/chris/scare scum and i was town bulletproof. Because this is a fucking mirror image(i cant find my role pm to figure out what game it was).

Everyone knows i have fire when we get closer to endgame especially when i finally have time to play like this.

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol

Elite BG is a very strong role it is very possible.

Mylo day 2. 2 day game over with scum having a double vote and a gladiator on day 2 to assist.

Get real. 10-5 is literally impossible and u want us to believe ur ulti town clear while arguing this. Lmfai
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Corrik7 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol

Elite BG is a very strong role it is very possible.

Mylo day 2. 2 day game over with scum having a double vote and a gladiator on day 2 to assist.

Get real. 10-5 is literally impossible and u want us to believe ur ulti town clear while arguing this. Lmfai

10 5 is unlikely but not impossible. 3 12 is 20% and absolutely not possible.

Panthera posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also im going to repeat corrik is trying to say I'm scum with ulti.

But in that scenario. You know who calls the fucking shots?

Its me.

So whatever crazy theories hez throwing out there about ulti doing dumb things. Complete fucking bullshit.

Would you believe Scare's claim in that scenario?

Doesn't matter tbh. Would get him out of the game.

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol

Elite BG is a very strong role it is very possible.

Mylo day 2. 2 day game over with scum having a double vote and a gladiator on day 2 to assist.

Get real. 10-5 is literally impossible and u want us to believe ur ulti town clear while arguing this. Lmfai

10 5 is unlikely but not impossible. 3 12 is 20% and absolutely not possible.

No shit 3 - 12 isn't possible. It had to be 4. However Ulti is arguing IGCD is town and I am last scum.

And u aren't arguing if we are both town that Ulti makes the most sense to Lynch because it gives u IGCD is scum. Yet, if I am town, it gives u nothing. Ur still at Ulti or igcd.

Why ur logic is flawed.
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Pez clearly says in his post he figured they would assassinate scare and roleblock/kill Han who he thought was confirmed town and likely vig.

Why would pez post that if he didn't save Han and not Scare.

And if he saved han, they had to of strongmanned Han to get by it.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Ulti literally cant be scum if that track is real.

Unless scum has a really out of the world role they used on the same target they strongmaned.

How so? We dont know for sure the order they were flipped, but I will admit that I lied. My night 1 track was actually Scare.
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Corrik7 posted...

And u aren't arguing if we are both town that Ulti makes the most sense to Lynch because it gives u IGCD is scum. Yet, if I am town, it gives u nothing. Ur still at Ulti or igcd.

We are literally at ulti or you right now. Igcd has a track that says ulti in every believable scenario has to be town.

Stop trying to twist.

UltimaterializerX posted...

MZero11 posted...

Panthera posted...

and this scum team already had a lynch manipulation role in the double voter.

fantastic point. Can't see Corrik being scum here. Too much lynch manipulation for scum imo

Gladiator is not lynch manipulation for scum. They cannot 100% guarantee an extra day lynch with it.

It restricts the lynch which is a type of manipulation. For example, say Tom was getting heat on Day 1 and Corrik decided to gladiate you. They can 100% guarantee the strongman doesn't get lynched and get his shot off
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Corrik7 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Red is saying 5 scum is possible. Hoo boy! Lol

Elite BG is a very strong role it is very possible.

Mylo day 2. 2 day game over with scum having a double vote and a gladiator on day 2 to assist.

Get real. 10-5 is literally impossible and u want us to believe ur ulti town clear while arguing this. Lmfai

Yeah 5 scum could possibly exist, but not with Gladiator + double vote. Town basically requires perfect play day 2 to not lose if they mislynch day 1 and protection whiffs night 1. 5 scum would make Corrik confirmed town
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