Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 6 Foreal

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I'm trying to do a reread thinking we have Ulti and we're moving on and his first post is again a contradiction of what he said he was going to do at the end of the day if Sultan didn't end early.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Anyway.

##Unvote
##Vote: Stu

Han has been on a crazy roll. Weve played what, 20 games together? Maybe 25? He has caught scum immediately as town in all of them. ALL of them. In the games hes been scum, he busses an ally immediately.

Basically, no matter what Hans alignment is, the odds are extremely high Stu will flip scum. Stu also immediately bought my claim/flavor as definitive town despite being town last game.

I have actual reasons here beyond parroting Han, I promise! Let me find the post.

It is kind of fascinating to me walking through life with that big of an ego. I find it very hard to understand.
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turbopuns3 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

there is at least one very specific point that I want to look into about something death said. I haven't had time to look through posts enough to inform my question yet but I noted the post number.

Ok I looked up all death's posts and there really isn't a lot to dig into specifics with, so I'll just ask

Death can you try to articulate why you're pretty sure Tom is scum? When pez asked you basically chalked it up to gut but is there anything more specific?

Is a guilty scan specific enough?
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htaeD posted...

Is a guilty scan specific enough?

yep

Is that a claim
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Guess I stupefied the crowd into silence
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Corrik7 posted...

Is that a claim

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Copscanned Tom

##Vote:Tom Bombadil
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I love this game

And I thought about holding it back. But 3 reasons made me come out with this now.
1. I want to see Corriks power used
2. I may have given scum too much of a warning already and they might have a Janitor. (and if they didnt notice before, Puns would make them see it)
3. Whatever Ulti is, he cant be a scumRB.
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there was one thing you coulda claimed I would've maybe bought, and that ain't it

##Vote: death
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Corrik, would your power end the day? Could we have our cake and eat it too here?
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Tom Bombadil posted...

there was one thing you coulda claimed I would've maybe bought, and that ain't it

##Vote: death

Are you claiming he too has a fake cop scan?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Corrik, would your power end the day? Could we have our cake and eat it too here?

If he works like a regular gladiator, we can still only lynch one person.

But hey, maybe we have a vig.
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well I ain't a miller soeaedwards6400 posted...

Are you claiming he too has a fake cop scan?

why yes
yes I am
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I dont buy it is the worst defense.

So I haven't seen a regular gladiator. I assumed it worked like a dayvig.
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Pez did you let us down or are you scum too.

Tom Bombadil posted...

there was one thing you coulda claimed I would've maybe bought, and that ain't it

##Vote: death

I mean you have to defend yourself of course. But I am curious what you expected in this story of yours.
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Leafeon13N posted...

I dont buy it is the worst defense.

you're right I forgot I am a miller false alarm we're all buddies
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I already looked up all the major Tom interactions from day1 (mostly)

That is why I like Puns a little more now, because he went after Tom early day1. Not strongly though, so he doesnt score full marks.
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htaeD posted...

But I am curious what you expected in this story of yours.

There is a scanning role that could have implicated me, but it's not cop. I imagine that'll come out when I claim but I don't see a need to just yet.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Pez did you let us down or are you scum too.

I have repeatedly said I don't have the confidence to tell people how to vote on Tom.

This is one hell of a way to come back from lunch. Game got interesting again.
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(since we have two pairs of opposing claims)
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Tom Bombadil posted...

htaeD posted...

But I am curious what you expected in this story of yours.

There is a scanning role that could have implicated me, but it's not cop. I imagine that'll come out when I claim but I don't see a need to just yet.

By the way I have a reasonable idea what his claim will be. He breadcrumbed it awhile back if I'm not mistaken.
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Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

I mean, granted.. Ulti could be a scumjack with a strongman kill. So I dont mind who we kill first that much. But I'd pick the 100 % over the 99 %
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htaeD posted...

Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

are you talking to me?
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Well at least Tom is not trying to make up a role that perfectly counters my claim. <.<
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htaeD posted...

Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

I mean, granted.. Ulti could be a scumjack with a strongman kill. So I dont mind who we kill first that much. But I'd pick the 100 % over the 99 %

That actually makes me want to lynch Ulti more. Why else would Tom tank so hard?
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Tom Bombadil posted...

htaeD posted...

Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

are you talking to me?

I assumed your miller joke was a sign of throwing in the towel yes.
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(do wrestlers throw towels??)
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I don't think in the WWE, no.
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Nah, I'm just not really sure what else red was expecting. You claimed a guilty scan on me, I'm not miller, so one of us is lying and I don't think it's me.

(they do! well not really recently but it has been a thing in the past)
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Tom Bombadil posted...

htaeD posted...

Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

are you talking to me?

I think he was going to accuse you of claiming that Death was making a last ditch effort to have you lynched. If you're town they can then try to WIFOM for the win tomorrow. Or that's what someone who doesn't believe Death would say.

I'm neutral on Death. If you claim what I think you're going to claim then I'm happy to stick with my vote on Ulti.
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Well you're gonna have to claim on me Tom.
Because I may not know a lot about wrasslin, but I dont doubt my scan.
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Pez dont humor the scanned scum.
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F l S H Y

eaedwards6400 posted...

Corrik, would your power end the day? Could we have our cake and eat it too here?

I was roleblocked. I will say nothing more.
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That's fair!

But only if we decide to pursue me/you over IGCD/Ulti
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htaeD posted...

Oh and now you're trying the 'I am giving up so please dont lynch Ulti but do lynch him first' maneuver?

I mean, granted.. Ulti could be a scumjack with a strongman kill. So I dont mind who we kill first that much. But I'd pick the 100 % over the 99 %

Ulti is likely burnt power scum.
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htaeD posted...

Pez dont humor the scanned scum.

I mean, Ulti is still the safest lynch today unless something really weird happens. You of course voting Tom makes sense for your claim. But town has two scans to deal with. And I like the circumstances surrounding IGCD's better than yours.
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More likely than not yeah.
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##unvote:
##vote: Tom

Tom is the safest lynch. What are you even talking about. Ulti suicided into the game. Tom was caught. Ulti is the weakest scum power of the two by far.
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pezloco posted...

htaeD posted...

Pez dont humor the scanned scum.

I mean, Ulti is still the safest lynch today unless something really weird happens. You of course voting Tom makes sense for your claim. But town has two scans to deal with. And I like the circumstances surrounding IGCD's better than yours.

I cant say I can argue the logic. But I have my own POV.
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Also to be fair Corrik. Lynching scumUlti will be a lot harder if he gets replaced by Chris, heh.
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I don't really agree with claiming there, Death. But, fair enough.

Tom is a very good shot at being their roleblocker. If he is, the game is pretty much over with 2 scum caught, protection not outed, and 2 scanning roles alive.
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No it won't? He is already dead. I don't care if Jesus himself resurrected into that spot. The spot is dead.

You don't lynch the hero ball suiciding scum over the caught scum when one has 0% chance to be roleblocker and the other has a 33% chance.

That's craziness talking.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Tom

I'm a little ecstatic I'm not gonna lie these guys are my top two reads. I do wonder if Ulti has the stronger powers because Tom has been awful since the scan was announced.
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Corrik7 posted...

##unvote:
##vote: Tom

Tom is the safest lynch. What are you even talking about. Ulti suicided into the game. Tom was caught. Ulti is the weakest scum power of the two by far.

Bull, there is almost 0 way that Ulti is not scum. Death could also be lying. Of the two scanners that have equally damning evidence. I think there is more certainty that IGCD is telling the truth. We can lynch Tom tomorrow. I might even vote for him tomorrow.

Tom you should make your claim or outright refuse it. If you're town, scum already figured out what you are.
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I think it's smarter to look for a sure scum lynch than a power scum lynch! I'll grant you I don't look great by either metric, but I'd rather make sure I have scum than figure I'm probably right and try to figure out which is power based on that assumption
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Corrik7 posted...

I don't really agree with claiming there, Death. But, fair enough.

Tom is a very good shot at being their roleblocker. If he is, the game is pretty much over with 2 scum caught, protection not outed, and 2 scanning roles alive.

Yeah I know. I was worried as hell I wouldnt even survive night1 when I saw how willingly Scare fakeclaimed cop. (I presumed scum knew I was cop already somehow and thats why a scumScare could fakeclaim it)
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

##unvote:
##vote: Tom

Tom is the safest lynch. What are you even talking about. Ulti suicided into the game. Tom was caught. Ulti is the weakest scum power of the two by far.

Bull, there is almost 0 way that Ulti is not scum. Death could also be lying. Of the two scanners that have equally damning evidence. I think there is more certainty that IGCD is telling the truth. We can lynch Tom tomorrow. I might even vote for him tomorrow.

Tom you should make your claim or outright refuse it. If you're town, scum already figured out what you are.

what in the literal world. No, death is not lying. He didn't claim cop with half the game unclaimed on a random. That would be a SUICIDE CLAIM LIKE ULTI JUST DID. Omg. Pez, if you are town... come the hell on. I get your roomate is the scan but no. Zero chance. Not happening. He is dead. End of story.
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