Board 8 > WWE Mafia 4: Tell me he didn't just say that

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Unvote
##Vote:5tar

I said I wanted it close between Scare and 5tar ya'll piling on scare and him unvoting 5tar makes that difficult.

I don't like this at all. Only scum likes ties.
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ScareChan posted...

why Miz

I dont see "open claim miller as scum" in his playbook

agree btw

I'm currently leaning on 5tar being Town. I just don't feel great about lynching him right now.

And Miz because he's done nothing. It took Panth to remind me he existed.

If Miz is not Scum, then why did it take until Panth to point him out? If he's not Scum, he's a way easy target.
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So nobody here thinks 5starscreams confident selfpity is genuine?
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also, MZero actually called out a specific logical inconsistency Ulti made in our page-long back and forth. Whereas I don't think anyone else did that. If he was reading critically through that pile of crap that's enough to live to night 1 for me.

Honestly I'd be okay if I I had to vote Mzero if only because I know he (probably) wont flip town power.
But that is also a terrible reason to vote.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

SBell is totes Scum but I wanted to see where the Scare thing went.

Don't feel as good about it now.

Are we just going to end up lynching Miz because I'm completely ok with that.

I prefer Scare > SBell > Red. Miz is a meh to me. I kind of buy the miller claim.
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turbopuns3 posted...

also, MZero actually called out a specific logical inconsistency Ulti made in our page-long back and forth. Whereas I don't think anyone else did that. If he was reading critically through that pile of crap that's enough to live to night 1 for me.

page?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm currently leaning on 5tar being Town. I just don't feel great about lynching him right now.

And Miz because he's done nothing. It took Panth to remind me he existed.

If Miz is not Scum, then why did it take until Panth to point him out? If he's not Scum, he's a way easy target.

This is a good point because I don't think his timezone allows him to be around for deadlines right?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

htaeD posted...

IGCD is clearly trolling at this point, which doesnt make him scum sadly.

I'm not trolling. I think these two will make an interesting EoD.

Why would you be looking for an interesting EoD over looking for which one is scum?
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Han is right though that Mzero has also oddly not been a bigger topic today.
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htaeD posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

also, MZero actually called out a specific logical inconsistency Ulti made in our page-long back and forth. Whereas I don't think anyone else did that. If he was reading critically through that pile of crap that's enough to live to night 1 for me.

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top 3 post #160

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77757195/922720715

eaedwards6400 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm currently leaning on 5tar being Town. I just don't feel great about lynching him right now.

And Miz because he's done nothing. It took Panth to remind me he existed.

If Miz is not Scum, then why did it take until Panth to point him out? If he's not Scum, he's a way easy target.

This is a good point because I don't think his timezone allows him to be around for deadlines right?

Mine neither.
In my experience that doesnt make me easier for scum to target tho.
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htaeD posted...

Han is right though that Mzero has also oddly not been a bigger topic today.

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I quoted that and pressed the wrong button. Does that make MZero scum? Like I don't like a Miller claim and I dont like Roman Reigns claim but the players don't feel like scum to me.
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turbopuns3 posted...

htaeD posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

also, MZero actually called out a specific logical inconsistency Ulti made in our page-long back and forth. Whereas I don't think anyone else did that. If he was reading critically through that pile of crap that's enough to live to night 1 for me.

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top 3 post #160

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77757195/922720715

Man I am missing the context to see how mzero made that conclusion.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Unvote
##Vote:5tar

I said I wanted it close between Scare and 5tar ya'll piling on scare and him unvoting 5tar makes that difficult.

I don't like this at all. Only scum likes ties.

I have made that exact vote as town many times. Null.

Do you think Scare v 5tarscream is scum/scum, town/town, or town/scum?

I don't have a strong read. I am leaning scum/town but Scare isn't doing his main scumtell and that's tunnel a member of the town.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I quoted that and pressed the wrong button. Does that make MZero scum? Like I don't like a Miller claim and I dont like Roman Reigns claim but the players don't feel like scum to me.

It says less about mzero than the players around him. But it could mean scum just doesnt want to bring him up either way.
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Panthera posted...

Weren't you and Pez lamenting people not fully reading games?

Later in that conversation it was established that reading and retaining are not the same!

I was on mzero before it was cool! I wouldn't hate a lynch on him but there are several better ideas floating around I think. Can't speak to whether he'd fake miller but he dang evaporated after that. But maybe we should use d1 on somebody who's actually here to defend themselves.

scare you have been around enough to know the source I will sic ulti on you
(nsfw if it needs to be said)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8ZeZJqOE0" data-time="
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htaeD posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I quoted that and pressed the wrong button. Does that make MZero scum? Like I don't like a Miller claim and I dont like Roman Reigns claim but the players don't feel like scum to me.

It says less about mzero than the players around him. But it could mean scum just doesnt want to bring him up either way.

Okay, so that's good thought.

5tar, Scare, Ulti, and SBell would you mind reiterating your thoughts on SBell for me?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Like I don't like a Miller claim..but the players don't feel like scum to me.

I am the exact opposite- the ONLY thing I like about MZero is the claim
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Yeah ok
Mzero is not a good focus right now, I agree.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

SBell would you mind reiterating your thoughts on SBell

sbell why are you voting sbell
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eaedwards6400 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Unvote
##Vote:5tar

I said I wanted it close between Scare and 5tar ya'll piling on scare and him unvoting 5tar makes that difficult.

I don't like this at all. Only scum likes ties.

I have made that exact vote as town many times. Null.

Do you think Scare v 5tarscream is scum/scum, town/town, or town/scum?

I don't have a strong read. I am leaning scum/town but Scare isn't doing his main scumtell and that's tunnel a member of the town.

he WAS doing that
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Honestly I am tempted to just vote IGCD
But I cant say red has been memorable either.
Scare at least had that attack on sbell.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

htaeD posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I quoted that and pressed the wrong button. Does that make MZero scum? Like I don't like a Miller claim and I dont like Roman Reigns claim but the players don't feel like scum to me.

It says less about mzero than the players around him. But it could mean scum just doesnt want to bring him up either way.

Okay, so that's good thought.

5tar, Scare, Ulti, and SBell would you mind reiterating your thoughts on SBell for me?

SBell on SBell lols
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.... MZero lol. We were talking about MZero. Good lord maybe I shouldn't have woken up.
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Okay looking back over Scare I don't really see Pez's argument of him being around but not contributing. When he was around he was generally pushing reads and engaging with people. Not necessarily pressing super hard on much but he wasn't just going with the flow by any means. He had like one brief stretch earlier today of being kind of fluffy, but that's it.

Do people have other arguments against him? Because this one at least doesn't seem to add up.
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Well I cant stop you from talking about mzero I guess. But I dont think he should be lynched
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Panthera posted...

Okay looking back over Scare I don't really see Pez's argument of him being around but not contributing. When he was around he was generally pushing reads and engaging with people. Not necessarily pressing super hard on much but he wasn't just going with the flow by any means. He had like one brief stretch earlier today of being kind of fluffy, but that's it.

Do people have other arguments against him? Because this one at least doesn't seem to add up.

Go back and read his posts in Topic 1 and Topic 2. I picked that time frame because that's when I felt like scum was just letting town go at itself. Through topic 1 and topic 2 he had an exchange with Corrik. But mostly he just said I think this person is scum. Or I think this person is town. He didn't give much reasoning, just stated those opinions and left it as that.
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##unvote
##vote: SBell

Scare seems OK

Back to square one

(Ok tom was square one but that's not happening)

why not red, Puns?
it feels like you were leaning that way.
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Also why does scare feel okay now?
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##unvote##

Trying to catch up before leaving for work. I have ten minutes.

kinda the point that sticks in my head where I started souring on Scare is when he announced he had nothing to say
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htaeD posted...

why not red, Puns?
it feels like you were leaning that way.

Red is too easy, I don't think we stand as much to gain. Wouldn't be the worst lynch though

Meanwhile Ulti's sheer enthusiasm is making it impossible for me to accurately gauge him.
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htaeD posted...

Also why does scare feel okay now?

I just don't feel his behavior or demeanor is that scummy

He was kind of a PoE for me

But after last game I want our d1 lynch to be something that was a bigger focus throughout the day, not a PoE last minute sloppy thing

Thats a dangerous slope, even if I can see some need for it.
And I cant exactly be picky at this moment either.
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htaeD posted...

Thats a dangerous slope, even if I can see some need for it.
And I cant exactly be picky at this moment either.

I mean someone's dyin

pezloco posted...

Go back and read his posts in Topic 1 and Topic 2. I picked that time frame because that's when I felt like scum was just letting town go at itself. Through topic 1 and topic 2 he had an exchange with Corrik. But mostly he just said I think this person is scum. Or I think this person is town. He didn't give much reasoning, just stated those opinions and left it as that.

He didn't give a lot of reasons on people beyond 5tar, but at the same time, his reads were basically that active people not named Ulti were town while the less active people were scum. Like, check this post out:

ScareChan posted...

1. Pezlo - town
2. Tom - sheeping pez
3. Ulti- scum
4. Eaed- town
5. Corrik - town lean
6. Sbell - barely town lean
7. Scare - mmmm
8. puns - town lean
9. IGCD - town lean
10. 5tar - scum
11.Han - town
12. Panth - scum lean
13. MZero - town
14. Death - town lean
15. Red- scum

Almost everyone who was active are town reads. His scum reads besides Ulti (who he later said he was faking the read on IIRC) are largely low activity players. I think I'm the most active out of that bunch and I had only been online for a few stretches at that point. So if he's scum trying to let town kill itself, why was he nudging people away from thinking the active players (the ones that would have to be almost all town for your idea of his intentions to make sense) were scum and directing attention to the other people whose activity could also look like they were sitting back? It doesn't really add up for scum to let town go at it in this way but then not try to capitalize on it by joining in.
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I am so ready to hop back on SBell but I find that NOBODY else wanting to join onto Red is interesting.

Actually, might be a case of you saying it was a trap and me agreeing. Nobody hopped on it.

So Red is... Town?

##Unvote:
##Vote SBell
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That said, the sbell movement.. having seen most of it now, doesnt sit well with me.
It just churned on and on with not much resistance.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

kinda the point that sticks in my head where I started souring on Scare is when he announced he had nothing to say

This is the one post that really bugs me from Scare, but I don't think it's nearly enough to make me lean scum on him.
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A trap is not really a trap if you tell it is one.
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htaeD posted...

That said, the sbell movement.. having seen most of it now, doesnt sit well with me.
It just churned on and on with not much resistance.

Do you distrust the people on it?
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htaeD posted...

A trap is not really a trap if you tell it is one.

Ah but people were afraid to hop on.

Who was around, who said Red is probably Scum, who did not hop on when me and Scare started pushing that avenue?
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