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Illuminoius 06/04/19 8:33:47 PM #101:	because there's a ton of games on pc and a ton of things besides gaming you can do on a pc and games don't have to be """pc-style""" to be played on pc <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:922796713] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>because there's a ton of games on pc and a ton of things besides gaming you can do on a pc and games don't have to be """pc-style""" to be played on pc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/04/19 8:44:22 PM #103:	thanks-gohan posted... pinky0926 posted... Meganekko posted... pinky0926 posted... It could but I dont think that is what most PC gamers do. PC enthusiasts want the next GPu, more RAM, and then inevitably a new MOBO and CPU to go with...hell better get a new tower because the old one looks pretty dull. And theres a new resolution factor for monitors now. Theres always another thing. None of which you have to fall into All the parts in my PC, other than the GPU, were bought in 2012. 7 years ago. It will still be stronger than a PS5. A 2012 machine stronger than a console that's not even released yet must have been quite the flagship. What sid you pay for it? LOL @ thinking a console can outperform a PC Your "I'm actually a PC gamer" concern trolling needs to stop. My PS3 outperforms my PC by a substantial margin. When it comes to graphics, that is. The CPUis a different story, of course that's what I prioritized because it wasn't really designed as a gaming machine. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:922797106] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Meganekko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>It could but I dont think that is what most PC gamers do. PC enthusiasts want the next GPu, more RAM, and then inevitably a new MOBO and CPU to go with...hell better get a new tower because the old one looks pretty dull. And theres a new resolution factor for monitors now. Theres always another thing. </quote> None of which you have to fall into All the parts in my PC, other than the GPU, were bought in 2012. 7 years ago. It will still be stronger than a PS5.</quote> A 2012 machine stronger than a console that's not even released yet must have been quite the flagship. What sid you pay for it?</quote> LOL @ thinking a console can outperform a PC Your "I'm actually a PC gamer" concern trolling needs to stop.</quote> My PS3 outperforms my PC by a substantial margin. When it comes to graphics, that is. The CPUis a different story, of course that's what I prioritized because it wasn't really designed as a gaming machine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 8:52:51 PM #104:	I Like Toast posted... Darmik posted... I got my 1070 PC back in 2016 and haven't touched it since. I don't bother with any of that overclocking stuff either. That's why PC gaming is great. You can do what you want. you act like 3 years is a long time or that 1070, which still today cost more than a console today, is cheap. You're quite literally proving his point. But that's your gimmick. Being ignorantly wrong in all things. His point was that PC gamers spent $3,000 and that they constantly tinker. I never said anything about my PC being cheaper than consoles. Stay miserable and needlessly aggressive over nothing champ. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922797433] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> I got my 1070 PC back in 2016 and haven't touched it since. I don't bother with any of that overclocking stuff either. That's why PC gaming is great. You can do what you want.</quote> you act like 3 years is a long time or that 1070, which still today cost more than a console today, is cheap. You're quite literally proving his point. But that's your gimmick. Being ignorantly wrong in all things.</quote> His point was that PC gamers spent $3,000 and that they constantly tinker. I never said anything about my PC being cheaper than consoles. Stay miserable and needlessly aggressive over nothing champ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/04/19 9:07:21 PM #105:	Darmik posted... His point was that PC gamers spent $3,000 and that they constantly tinker. and you responded by showcasing how you bought, just a video card, that cost more than a console today.Darmik posted... Stay miserable and needlessly aggressive over nothing champ. says the guy not only arguing against himself but getting involved in a pc vs console debate to begin with. But thanks for proving me right about your gimmick --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:922798035] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> His point was that PC gamers spent $3,000 and that they constantly tinker.</quote> and you responded by showcasing how you bought, just a video card, that cost more than a console today.<cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Stay miserable and needlessly aggressive over nothing champ.</quote> says the guy not only arguing against himself but getting involved in a pc vs console debate to begin with. But thanks for proving me right about your gimmick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 9:08:32 PM #106:	I Like Toast posted... and you responded by showcasing how you bought, just a video card, that cost more than a console today. Which didn't involve $3,000 or constant tinkering. Try to keep up. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922798080] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>and you responded by showcasing how you bought, just a video card, that cost more than a console today.</quote> Which didn't involve $3,000 or constant tinkering. Try to keep up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlameAnesthesia 06/04/19 9:13:36 PM #107:	ITT: pinky demonstrating a textbook definition of strawman. And if we're being honest pinky, you need to include the cost of a TV and generally more expensive games. Some people are PC enthusiasts like you said and pour a lot of money into their hobby. The option is there for PC gaming to be just as cheap. Remember, PS+ costs $60/year. If you've played your PS4 regularly and online since launch, that's $360 on top of your $400. And your TV and peripherals cost something too. --- Anesthesia resident - PGY 1 <cite>BlameAnesthesia posted [p:922798293] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>ITT: pinky demonstrating a textbook definition of strawman. And if we're being honest pinky, you need to include the cost of a TV and generally more expensive games. Some people are PC enthusiasts like you said and pour a lot of money into their hobby. The option is there for PC gaming to be just as cheap. Remember, PS+ costs $60/year. If you've played your PS4 regularly and online since launch, that's $360 on top of your $400. And your TV and peripherals cost something too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 06/04/19 9:21:07 PM #109:	Darmik posted... Try to keep up. I did, which is why i understand his point before he went to hyperbole to overstate it. pinky0926 posted... I like gaming on a PC but I do laugh when nerds start telling you its the easiest and most cost effective way to game. But you went into a fit of rage that someone doth critize that you spent more than a console, just for your gpu, on your rig. Let alone what you spent for psu, the mobo, the cpu, the hdd, and that's assuming you didn't buy a gaming monitor for them extra frames that you spent more than a console on just the gpu for, a mechanical keyboard, or a gaming mouse for increased precision. Yes, you can buy a budget pc for around a console and it will have better specs, but since it doesn't exclusively do games, you need the extra power to match. And as that pc gets bloated and slows down you end up in the same cycle as if you just bought a console. You like pc, enjoy it. You like console, enjoy it. You like gaming, don't be you and draw these stupid lines and make these stupid arguments. Like my $600 gpu i've had for 2 and half years hasn't needed to be replaced yet so take that me proving your point but still not realizing it! You desperately need a healthier hobby. Have you considered instead of using that $600 gpu to post on gamefaqs you actually play a game? I'm about to, give it a try. But then again, whatever game you'd play that would just make you miserable too, there might be some minor imperfection that is totally the greatest slap in your face in the history of ever! The only joy you find in life is trying to make others as miserable as you. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:922798594] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Try to keep up.</quote> I did, which is why i understand his point before he went to hyperbole to overstate it. <cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>I like gaming on a PC but I do laugh when nerds start telling you its the easiest and most cost effective way to game. </quote> But you went into a fit of rage that someone doth critize that you spent more than a console, just for your gpu, on your rig. Let alone what you spent for psu, the mobo, the cpu, the hdd, and that's assuming you didn't buy a gaming monitor for them extra frames that you spent more than a console on just the gpu for, a mechanical keyboard, or a gaming mouse for increased precision. Yes, you can buy a budget pc for around a console and it will have better specs, but since it doesn't exclusively do games, you need the extra power to match. And as that pc gets bloated and slows down you end up in the same cycle as if you just bought a console. You like pc, enjoy it. You like console, enjoy it. You like gaming, don't be you and draw these stupid lines and make these stupid arguments. Like my $600 gpu i've had for 2 and half years hasn't needed to be replaced yet so take that me proving your point but still not realizing it! You desperately need a healthier hobby. Have you considered instead of using that $600 gpu to post on gamefaqs you actually play a game? I'm about to, give it a try. But then again, whatever game you'd play that would just make you miserable too, there might be some minor imperfection that is totally the greatest slap in your face in the history of ever! The only joy you find in life is trying to make others as miserable as you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 9:23:02 PM #110:	I think it's complicated to measure if PC or console gaming is cheaper. It depends on the person and what they're looking for really. If a guy just wants COD and Madden every year a console will probably be cheaper for them. Buying an Xbox One with Game Pass is a good bargain too. I think PC gaming has far more opportunities to be thrifty though. If you have enough self control you could easily live off the giveaways and games that are dirt cheap without any subscriptions. If you have some leftover accessories and parts from before you can cut corners too. There's a lot of factors. EDIT: Oh look. The little guy went on a rant and argued against things I never said. Poor fella must have been upset over an old topic or something. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922798665] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>I think it's complicated to measure if PC or console gaming is cheaper. It depends on the person and what they're looking for really. If a guy just wants COD and Madden every year a console will probably be cheaper for them. Buying an Xbox One with Game Pass is a good bargain too. I think PC gaming has far more opportunities to be thrifty though. If you have enough self control you could easily live off the giveaways and games that are dirt cheap without any subscriptions. If you have some leftover accessories and parts from before you can cut corners too. There's a lot of factors. EDIT: Oh look. The little guy went on a rant and argued against things I never said. Poor fella must have been upset over an old topic or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 9:24:58 PM #111:	All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter so really what am I missing out on that can't be played on my MBP? If y'all didn't let crypto miners fuck up the graphics card prices maybe there would be more PC gamers around, myself included Whoever said a TV is an extra expense for a console needs to piss off though. Don't most of y'all own multiple monitors lol, if you include the TV then I can include KBM/OS in the PC equation too Probably not though, to this day Fallout 3 still refuses to run on any recent version of Windows I own --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922798748] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter so really what am I missing out on that can't be played on my MBP? If y'all didn't let crypto miners fuck up the graphics card prices maybe there would be more PC gamers around, myself included Whoever said a TV is an extra expense for a console needs to piss off though. Don't most of y'all own multiple monitors lol, if you include the TV then I can include KBM/OS in the PC equation too Probably not though, to this day Fallout 3 still refuses to run on any recent version of Windows I own</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 9:26:23 PM #112:	AvantgardeAClue posted... All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922798796] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter</quote> It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 9:31:05 PM #113:	Darmik posted... AvantgardeAClue posted... All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside. It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost/stability. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff. CounterStrike and some others PC exclusives aren't anything I can't run on my MBP, so I like having a 5TB HDD full of some of the best multiplats and some occasional indies on my XBX. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922799015] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter</quote> It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.</quote> It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost/stability. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff. CounterStrike and some others PC exclusives aren't anything I can't run on my MBP, so I like having a 5TB HDD full of some of the best multiplats and some occasional indies on my XBX.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 9:32:11 PM #114:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Darmik posted... AvantgardeAClue posted... All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside. It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff. Sure. But then the downside is you're playing 720p on a system that could do more. Unfortunately that's the big downside of these mid-gen consoles. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922799066] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter</quote> It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.</quote> It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff.</quote> Sure. But then the downside is you're playing 720p on a system that could do more. Unfortunately that's the big downside of these mid-gen consoles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 9:35:11 PM #115:	Darmik posted... AvantgardeAClue posted... Darmik posted... AvantgardeAClue posted... All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside. It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff. Sure. But then the downside is you're playing 720p on a system that could do more. Unfortunately that's the big downside of these interim consoles. Considering that most PC gamers don't really play past 1080P I don't think resolution is something that I should be considering a loss, either. Just about all 360 games can hit 1080P and some XBX enhanced ones can even do 4K. Never though Final Fantasy XIII would look this good all these years later, or Gears 2. Frame rate boosts in older games is a comfortable tradeoff as well --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922799185] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter</quote> It only does that if the developers put that in for you. I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.</quote> It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for. Also older games receive a frame rate boost. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff.</quote> Sure. But then the downside is you're playing 720p on a system that could do more. Unfortunately that's the big downside of these interim consoles.</quote> Considering that most PC gamers don't really play past 1080P I don't think resolution is something that I should be considering a loss, either. Just about all 360 games can hit 1080P and some XBX enhanced ones can even do 4K. Never though Final Fantasy XIII would look this good all these years later, or Gears 2. Frame rate boosts in older games is a comfortable tradeoff as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 06/04/19 9:41:08 PM #117:	Romulox28 posted... - PC hardware is obviously a lot more expensive than consoles, esp if you want something beyond a real budget build They're the same price, you just have the option of buying better hardware. Romulox28 posted... besides MOBAs i cant really think of any "PC style" games you can only play there. fps are on consoles, MMOs and RTS are basically dead, etc All genres are better on PC. Romulox28 posted... everything has matchmaking now so there are no longer server communities - mods arent really a thing anymore like they used to be These are wrong. Romulox28 posted... - a lot of PC games are half assed lazy console ports, unoptimized messes etc 99.9% of games run way better on PCs. When people say a game is a bad port they mean it runs like every console game does. There's no reason to own a console these days which is why their share of the video game market is declining while PC and Mobile are increasing. It's just more cost effective and convenient to play on PC. <cite>BadderHare posted [p:922799424] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>- PC hardware is obviously a lot more expensive than consoles, esp if you want something beyond a real budget build </quote> They're the same price, you just have the option of buying better hardware. <cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote> besides MOBAs i cant really think of any "PC style" games you can only play there. fps are on consoles, MMOs and RTS are basically dead, etc</quote> All genres are better on PC. <cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>everything has matchmaking now so there are no longer server communities - mods arent really a thing anymore like they used to be</quote> These are wrong. <cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>- a lot of PC games are half assed lazy console ports, unoptimized messes etc</quote> 99.9% of games run way better on PCs. When people say a game is a bad port they mean it runs like every console game does. There's no reason to own a console these days which is why their share of the video game market is declining while PC and Mobile are increasing. It's just more cost effective and convenient to play on PC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 9:41:37 PM #118:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Considering that most PC gamers don't really play past 1080P I don't think resolution is something that I should be considering a loss, either. Just about all 360 games can hit 1080P and some XBX enhanced ones can even do 4K. Never though Final Fantasy XIII would look this good all these years later, or Gears 2. Frame rate boosts in older games is a comfortable tradeoff as well Ok but I'm pointing out that saying you're playing 4k/60fps on Xbox One X isn't exactly accurate. It's not an option on all games. It's not even an option on most games. Playing 720p on a console that can do 4k is an annoying hindrance and it impacts a whole lot of games released before 2017 and a whole bunch of indie games as well. Keep in mind that a whole lot of games are solely designed for the OG Xbox One which is a rather weak system. If there's no Xbox One X Enhancement patch that's it. You're stuck with a low resolution and likely a framerate cap of 30fps. On top of that often the Xbox One X patch isn't very flexible. Sonic Team Racing has a high resolution but framerate is stuck on 50-60fps. I wish I could lower it just don't stays smooth but I can't. PC gaming doesn't have that issue. It's all up to your hardware and settings. thanks-gohan posted... False. Your Xbox One X can do upscaled 4K resolution to present a blurrier picture because it cannot handle regular 4K textures and meshes. Xbox One X has quite a few native 4k games. If you don't count those you aren't counting many games in general. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922799438] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>Considering that most PC gamers don't really play past 1080P I don't think resolution is something that I should be considering a loss, either. Just about all 360 games can hit 1080P and some XBX enhanced ones can even do 4K. Never though Final Fantasy XIII would look this good all these years later, or Gears 2. Frame rate boosts in older games is a comfortable tradeoff as well</quote> Ok but I'm pointing out that saying you're playing 4k/60fps on Xbox One X isn't exactly accurate. It's not an option on all games. It's not even an option on most games. Playing 720p on a console that can do 4k is an annoying hindrance and it impacts a whole lot of games released before 2017 and a whole bunch of indie games as well. Keep in mind that a whole lot of games are solely designed for the OG Xbox One which is a rather weak system. If there's no Xbox One X Enhancement patch that's it. You're stuck with a low resolution and likely a framerate cap of 30fps. On top of that often the Xbox One X patch isn't very flexible. Sonic Team Racing has a high resolution but framerate is stuck on 50-60fps. I wish I could lower it just don't stays smooth but I can't. PC gaming doesn't have that issue. It's all up to your hardware and settings. <cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>False. Your Xbox One X can do upscaled 4K resolution to present a blurrier picture because it cannot handle regular 4K textures and meshes.</quote> Xbox One X has quite a few native 4k games. If you don't count those you aren't counting many games in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 9:52:33 PM #119:	thanks-gohan posted... All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter so really what am I missing out on that can't be played on my MBP? False. Your Xbox One X can do upscaled 4K resolution to present a blurrier picture because it cannot handle regular 4K textures and meshes. No, you're thinking of the PS4 Pro and checkerboarding. Several games on Xbox One X have been confirmed to be native 4K. Darmik posted... Ok but I'm pointing out that saying you're playing 4k/60fps on Xbox One X isn't exactly accurate. It's not an option on all games. It's not even an option on most games. Playing 720p on a console that can do 4k is an annoying hindrance and it impacts a whole lot of games released before 2017 and a whole bunch of indie games as well. Keep in mind that a whole lot of games are solely designed for the OG Xbox One which is a rather weak system. If there's no Xbox One X Enhancement patch that's it. You're stuck with a low resolution and likely a framerate cap of 30fps. On top of that often the Xbox One X patch isn't very flexible. Sonic Team Racing has a high resolution but framerate is stuck on 50-60fps. I wish I could lower it just don't stays smooth but I can't. PC gaming doesn't have that issue. It's all up to your hardware and settings. Well, of course its not gonna be a perfect solution at $500, but your perfect solution costs several thousand dollars in comparison. And no, you don't make it all back on Steam sales, either. Consoles have plenty of game sales, and some of them can be quite good at that. So I'm not out here buying full priced games every time, especially back when Gamer's Club Unlocked was a thing. Xbox Live sales are more generous than PlayStation Plus; I'm sitting on about 3 years worth of Xbox Live prepaid cards that I bought for about $60 altogether during Gamestop's "buy 6 months get 6 months free" sale. There's also the preference to keep my PC stuff on my PC and my gaming stuff on a console. Mac OS is so bullshit free that the only reason I use Windows is for Fallout: NV mods and programs that don't run on Mac. Xbox OS deserves a lot of credit too; it's functional and fast and has a digital store that doesn't struggle to run every fucking time I boot it up (PlayStation Store has never once not sucked to use) --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922799949] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter so really what am I missing out on that can't be played on my MBP? </quote> False. Your Xbox One X can do upscaled 4K resolution to present a blurrier picture because it cannot handle regular 4K textures and meshes.</quote> No, you're thinking of the PS4 Pro and checkerboarding. Several games on Xbox One X have been confirmed to be native 4K. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Ok but I'm pointing out that saying you're playing 4k/60fps on Xbox One X isn't exactly accurate. It's not an option on all games. It's not even an option on most games. Playing 720p on a console that can do 4k is an annoying hindrance and it impacts a whole lot of games released before 2017 and a whole bunch of indie games as well. Keep in mind that a whole lot of games are solely designed for the OG Xbox One which is a rather weak system. If there's no Xbox One X Enhancement patch that's it. You're stuck with a low resolution and likely a framerate cap of 30fps. On top of that often the Xbox One X patch isn't very flexible. Sonic Team Racing has a high resolution but framerate is stuck on 50-60fps. I wish I could lower it just don't stays smooth but I can't. PC gaming doesn't have that issue. It's all up to your hardware and settings. </quote> Well, of course its not gonna be a perfect solution at $500, but your perfect solution costs several thousand dollars in comparison. And no, you don't make it all back on Steam sales, either. Consoles have plenty of game sales, and some of them can be quite good at that. So I'm not out here buying full priced games every time, especially back when Gamer's Club Unlocked was a thing. Xbox Live sales are more generous than PlayStation Plus; I'm sitting on about 3 years worth of Xbox Live prepaid cards that I bought for about $60 altogether during Gamestop's "buy 6 months get 6 months free" sale. There's also the preference to keep my PC stuff on my PC and my gaming stuff on a console. Mac OS is so bullshit free that the only reason I use Windows is for Fallout: NV mods and programs that don't run on Mac. Xbox OS deserves a lot of credit too; it's functional and fast and has a digital store that doesn't struggle to run every fucking time I boot it up (PlayStation Store has never once not sucked to use)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 9:59:36 PM #121:	ProfessorKukui posted... At the end of the day, what does it matter? Consoles, PC, lolMacs, Linux, handhelds, mobiles & more, all we want to do is look at some nice 4k anime titties. Is that not what true counts in gaming? My man Tell me more of these 4K anime tig ol bitties --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922800247] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>ProfessorKukui posted...</cite> <quote>At the end of the day, what does it matter? Consoles, PC, lolMacs, Linux, handhelds, mobiles & more, all we want to do is look at some nice 4k anime titties. Is that not what true counts in gaming? </quote> My man Tell me more of these 4K anime tig ol bitties</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 10:04:17 PM #122:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Well, of course its not gonna be a perfect solution at $500, but your perfect solution costs several thousand dollars in comparison. To play current gen games at higher resolutions and frame rates? Nope. AvantgardeAClue posted... Consoles have plenty of game sales, and some of them can be quite good at that. So I'm not out here buying full priced games every time, especially back when Gamer's Club Unlocked was a thing. Xbox Live sales are more generous than PlayStation Plus; I'm sitting on about 3 years worth of Xbox Live prepaid cards that I bought for about $60 altogether during Gamestop's "buy 6 months get 6 months free" sale. Those sales are often locked behind subscriptions that you outright don't need to buy on PC. AvantgardeAClue posted... There's also the preference to keep my PC stuff on my PC and my gaming stuff on a console. Mac OS is so bullshit free that the only reason I use Windows is for Fallout: NV mods and programs that don't run on Mac. Xbox OS deserves a lot of credit too; it's functional and fast and has a digital store that doesn't struggle to run every f*ing time I boot it up (PlayStation Store has never once not sucked to use) Xbox does a lot of great things. But it's still overall limited by the control being in the hands of the developers instead of the gamer. In this sense it will never serve the same role as a PC. The Xbox 360 emulation is awesome and unprecedented for consoles. But that stuff has been on PC forever and doesn't rely on a team working on it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922800439] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>Well, of course its not gonna be a perfect solution at $500, but your perfect solution costs several thousand dollars in comparison. </quote> To play current gen games at higher resolutions and frame rates? Nope. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>Consoles have plenty of game sales, and some of them can be quite good at that. So I'm not out here buying full priced games every time, especially back when Gamer's Club Unlocked was a thing. Xbox Live sales are more generous than PlayStation Plus; I'm sitting on about 3 years worth of Xbox Live prepaid cards that I bought for about $60 altogether during Gamestop's "buy 6 months get 6 months free" sale. </quote> Those sales are often locked behind subscriptions that you outright don't need to buy on PC. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>There's also the preference to keep my PC stuff on my PC and my gaming stuff on a console. Mac OS is so bullshit free that the only reason I use Windows is for Fallout: NV mods and programs that don't run on Mac. Xbox OS deserves a lot of credit too; it's functional and fast and has a digital store that doesn't struggle to run every f*ing time I boot it up (PlayStation Store has never once not sucked to use) </quote> Xbox does a lot of great things. But it's still overall limited by the control being in the hands of the developers instead of the gamer. In this sense it will never serve the same role as a PC. The Xbox 360 emulation is awesome and unprecedented for consoles. But that stuff has been on PC forever and doesn't rely on a team working on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/04/19 10:13:52 PM #123:	Darmik posted... To play current gen games at higher resolutions and frame rates? Nope. If you want to run it without bottlenecks or compromises, yes. https://www.windowscentral.com/struggle-build-4k-gaming-pc-price-xbox-one-x Our first build is a $683 PC that is capable of some solid gaming but that will hit some bottlenecks. That is to be expected when you choose a less powerful 2nd-gen AMD Ryzen 3 processor and GTX 1060 with only 3GB of VRAM. This is where PC starts to really shine. Our mid-range build will set you back about $920 and may allow you to enjoy 4K gaming at around 30 frames per second (FPS) at best with the settings turned down a little. Still, it will offer more raw performance than an Xbox One X and you'll be able to enjoy more than respectable 1440p gaming. The combination of a Ryzen 5 CPU and GTX 1070 makes for quite the experience. If you truly wish to leave the Xbox One X behind in the dust, go all out with our powerhouse build for around $3,488. Adding the most powerful components available to the cart and neglecting to check the price will unlock immense amounts of potential in-game. NVIDIA's GTX 1080 Ti is overkill for most PC gamers, but this GPU card will offer incredible performance even at 4K. We also bumped the amount of DDR4 RAM to 32GB, replaced the Ryzen 5 chip with a Ryzen Threadripper, and opted for a more capable motherboard with the X399 chipset. It's expensive but truly awesome. Darmik posted... Those sales are often locked behind subscriptions that you outright don't need to buy on PC. No one buys Xbox Live for sales and therefore that's a dishonest angle. That's like saying you paid for Nintendo Switch Online to access the NES games. Even if you outright refuse to buy Live because you don't play online, free trials are common enough to allow you to access sale prices without paying anything. Darmik posted... Xbox does a lot of great things. But it's still overall limited by the control being in the hands of the developers instead of the gamer. In this sense it will never serve the same role as a PC. Of course not, but it's closing the gap, admit it or not. There's plenty of compelling reasons to get a 4K console now than an ordinary console at the beginning of the gen. Bethesda lets you be more flexible with mods on Xbox than on PS4. Enhanced backwards compatibility means you can play all your console games in one spot and the nature of being a console means I pop in a game and it works. If it doesn't work, something probably isn't my fault. I used to PC game too, you know. Too bad it became a big trend in the 2010s because it was just a method of playing games when I did it. Now it's all about your RIG and how many copies of Rocket League you can run simultaneously. Just play your fucking games lol --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922800809] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> To play current gen games at higher resolutions and frame rates? Nope. </quote> If you want to run it without bottlenecks or compromises, yes. https://www.windowscentral.com/struggle-build-4k-gaming-pc-price-xbox-one-x Our first build is a $683 PC that is capable of some solid gaming but that will hit some bottlenecks. That is to be expected when you choose a less powerful 2nd-gen AMD Ryzen 3 processor and GTX 1060 with only 3GB of VRAM. This is where PC starts to really shine. Our mid-range build will set you back about $920 and may allow you to enjoy 4K gaming at around 30 frames per second (FPS) at best with the settings turned down a little. Still, it will offer more raw performance than an Xbox One X and you'll be able to enjoy more than respectable 1440p gaming. The combination of a Ryzen 5 CPU and GTX 1070 makes for quite the experience. If you truly wish to leave the Xbox One X behind in the dust, go all out with our powerhouse build for around $3,488. Adding the most powerful components available to the cart and neglecting to check the price will unlock immense amounts of potential in-game. NVIDIA's GTX 1080 Ti is overkill for most PC gamers, but this GPU card will offer incredible performance even at 4K. We also bumped the amount of DDR4 RAM to 32GB, replaced the Ryzen 5 chip with a Ryzen Threadripper, and opted for a more capable motherboard with the X399 chipset. It's expensive but truly awesome. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Those sales are often locked behind subscriptions that you outright don't need to buy on PC. </quote> No one buys Xbox Live for sales and therefore that's a dishonest angle. That's like saying you paid for Nintendo Switch Online to access the NES games. Even if you outright refuse to buy Live because you don't play online, free trials are common enough to allow you to access sale prices without paying anything. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Xbox does a lot of great things. But it's still overall limited by the control being in the hands of the developers instead of the gamer. In this sense it will never serve the same role as a PC. </quote> Of course not, but it's closing the gap, admit it or not. There's plenty of compelling reasons to get a 4K console now than an ordinary console at the beginning of the gen. Bethesda lets you be more flexible with mods on Xbox than on PS4. Enhanced backwards compatibility means you can play all your console games in one spot and the nature of being a console means I pop in a game and it works. If it doesn't work, something probably isn't my fault. I used to PC game too, you know. Too bad it became a big trend in the 2010s because it was just a method of playing games when I did it. Now it's all about your RIG and how many copies of Rocket League you can run simultaneously. Just play your fucking games lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/04/19 10:29:15 PM #124:	The article you linked to is nearly a year old. I linked some prebuilts on sale that weren't even $1,000 in AUD before. AvantgardeAClue posted... No one buys Xbox Live for sales and therefore that's a dishonest angle. That's like saying you paid for Nintendo Switch Online to access the NES games. Even if you outright refuse to buy Live because you don't play online, free trials are common enough to allow you to access sale prices without paying anything. Trying to get free trials to time yourself to the right sale is silly. That's what I'm saying. You don't have the freedom of a PC. For the sake of argument lets say there is some fella who wants to buy hardware and not spend any money. If this guy got a PC at the beginning of this year and nabbed all of the freebies he can play; - Rayman Origins - Kao the Kangaroo Round 2 - Kingdom: New Lands - Obduction - The Dig - Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - Jalopy - City of Brass - The Sims 4 - Rime - Guacamelee - GRID 2 - Morrowind - Steep - Stories Untold - Age of Wonders 3 - World of Goo - Transistor - Assassin's Creed Unity - The Witness - Oxenfree - Tacoma - Slime Rancher - Axiom Verge - Thimbleweed Park That's just from this year and I'm sure I'm missing a lot. Now I don't think many of these cheapskate people actually exist. But that's the point. They can. On PC you decide what you want your system to be. On consoles you cannot. AvantgardeAClue posted... Enhanced backwards compatibility means you can play all your console games in one spot and the nature of being a console means I pop in a game and it works. If it doesn't work, something probably isn't my fault. It's not all of your games. It's only if the developers request it and if Microsoft do the work for it. You will never be able to play all of your old OG Xbox and 360 games. On PC if there's a will there's a way. If you want to play Tomb Raider from the 90's in 4k have at it. I used to PC game too, you know. Too bad it became a big trend in the 2010s because it was just a method of playing games when I did it. Now it's all about your RIG and how many copies of Rocket League you can run simultaneously. Wrong --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922801359] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>The article you linked to is nearly a year old. I linked some prebuilts on sale that weren't even $1,000 in AUD before. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>No one buys Xbox Live for sales and therefore that's a dishonest angle. That's like saying you paid for Nintendo Switch Online to access the NES games. Even if you outright refuse to buy Live because you don't play online, free trials are common enough to allow you to access sale prices without paying anything.</quote> Trying to get free trials to time yourself to the right sale is silly. That's what I'm saying. You don't have the freedom of a PC. For the sake of argument lets say there is some fella who wants to buy hardware and not spend any money. If this guy got a PC at the beginning of this year and nabbed all of the freebies he can play; - Rayman Origins - Kao the Kangaroo Round 2 - Kingdom: New Lands - Obduction - The Dig - Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - Jalopy - City of Brass - The Sims 4 - Rime - Guacamelee - GRID 2 - Morrowind - Steep - Stories Untold - Age of Wonders 3 - World of Goo - Transistor - Assassin's Creed Unity - The Witness - Oxenfree - Tacoma - Slime Rancher - Axiom Verge - Thimbleweed Park That's just from this year and I'm sure I'm missing a lot. Now I don't think many of these cheapskate people actually exist. But that's the point. They can. On PC you decide what you want your system to be. On consoles you cannot. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>Enhanced backwards compatibility means you can play all your console games in one spot and the nature of being a console means I pop in a game and it works. If it doesn't work, something probably isn't my fault.</quote> It's not all of your games. It's only if the developers request it and if Microsoft do the work for it. You will never be able to play all of your old OG Xbox and 360 games. On PC if there's a will there's a way. If you want to play Tomb Raider from the 90's in 4k have at it. <quote>I used to PC game too, you know. Too bad it became a big trend in the 2010s because it was just a method of playing games when I did it. Now it's all about your RIG and how many copies of Rocket League you can run simultaneously.</quote> Wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 06/04/19 10:56:11 PM #125:	wtf is going on in here --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:922802292] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>wtf is going on in here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukleen 06/05/19 1:45:10 AM #127:	I like consoles so I can keep my gaming stuff segregated :D --- no. <cite>Nukleen posted [p:922807383] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>I like consoles so I can keep my gaming stuff segregated :D</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/05/19 7:59:09 AM #129:	Romulox28 posted... wtf is going on in here I ruined it --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:922813241] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>wtf is going on in here</quote> I ruined it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/05/19 8:26:18 AM #130:	I Like Toast posted... DevsBro posted... ITT: nobody on Earth has a backlog I meant if games like total war interested you, you'd already have a pc to play them But that's literally how backlogs get made, new game comes out that makes you stop your old one. Or the new game sucks and you go back to your log and say you'll come back to the new one when it's patched/dlc/expansion/fan modded Backlogs get made when Flash sales put a hundred games in your hands at once for seven bucks. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:922813896] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote> ITT: nobody on Earth has a backlog</quote> I meant if games like total war interested you, you'd already have a pc to play them But that's literally how backlogs get made, new game comes out that makes you stop your old one. Or the new game sucks and you go back to your log and say you'll come back to the new one when it's patched/dlc/expansion/fan modded</quote> Backlogs get made when Flash sales put a hundred games in your hands at once for seven bucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 06/05/19 8:27:13 AM #131:	Romulox28 posted... - a lot of PC games are half assed lazy console ports, unoptimized messes etc If you remove Bethesda from the list, the number of shoddy games drops dramatically. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:922813921] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>- a lot of PC games are half assed lazy console ports, unoptimized messes etc</quote> If you remove Bethesda from the list, the number of shoddy games drops dramatically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 8:54:01 AM #132:	thanks-gohan posted... Romulox28 posted... wtf is going on in here ignorance and trolling Well you DID think the Xbox One X was only capable of checkerboarding --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922814680] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>wtf is going on in here</quote> ignorance and trolling</quote> Well you DID think the Xbox One X was only capable of checkerboarding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 2:06:32 PM #134:	thanks-gohan posted... AvantgardeAClue posted... thanks-gohan posted... Romulox28 posted... wtf is going on in here ignorance and trolling Well you DID think the Xbox One X was only capable of checkerboarding The Xbox One X cuts a lot of corners so much so that it's dangerously close to false advertising. In order for it to pull off what a PC can do at that price, the companies making the parts would have to operate at a significant loss. Yeah, keep thinking console parts are more efficient than PC. There are a bunch of games that run at native 4K and some that use techniques that make it pretty damn hard to spot otherwise unless you're eyeballing it. That's a far cry from "blurry 4K upscaled textures" and if you're comparing them side to side then chances are this wasn't something you were gonna buy anyway. Either way you're ignoring the fact that it costs $500 and gives you quite a bit for that price. Nobody is saying this is the ultimate 4K solution. What I am saying is that it's currently the most ideal 4K device in its price range. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922829259] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>wtf is going on in here</quote> ignorance and trolling</quote> Well you DID think the Xbox One X was only capable of checkerboarding</quote> The Xbox One X cuts a lot of corners so much so that it's dangerously close to false advertising. In order for it to pull off what a PC can do at that price, the companies making the parts would have to operate at a significant loss. Yeah, keep thinking console parts are more efficient than PC.</quote> There are a bunch of games that run at native 4K and some that use techniques that make it pretty damn hard to spot otherwise unless you're eyeballing it. That's a far cry from "blurry 4K upscaled textures" and if you're comparing them side to side then chances are this wasn't something you were gonna buy anyway. Either way you're ignoring the fact that it costs $500 and gives you quite a bit for that price. Nobody is saying this is the ultimate 4K solution. What I am saying is that it's currently the most ideal 4K device in its price range.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 2:30:25 PM #137:	thanks-gohan posted... Barebones 4K at the bare minimum enough to not be false advertising. Keep thinking console parts are more efficient than PC. Haha nobody fucking said that, you were going on about "Hurr fake 4K you can't handle the realness" remember I hate the phrase "moving the goal posts" but boy is it precise right about now --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922830375] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>Barebones 4K at the bare minimum enough to not be false advertising. Keep thinking console parts are more efficient than PC.</quote> Haha nobody fucking said that, you were going on about "Hurr fake 4K you can't handle the realness" remember I hate the phrase "moving the goal posts" but boy is it precise right about now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 3:02:56 PM #141:	thanks-gohan posted... I have yet to be proven wrong. Console gaming is more expensive than PC gaming. Go ahead, post that shitty PC parts chart from 2013. And we weren't talking about that. You insist that Xbox One X can't do native 4K when literally everyone else is saying it's more than capable on most recent games. How did this suddenly devolve into PC being comparable. Do you know how many goofs on the internet have made an effort to compare, only to come up short in some area? --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922831966] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>I have yet to be proven wrong. Console gaming is more expensive than PC gaming.</quote> Go ahead, post that shitty PC parts chart from 2013. And we weren't talking about that. You insist that Xbox One X can't do native 4K when literally everyone else is saying it's more than capable on most recent games. How did this suddenly devolve into PC being comparable. Do you know how many goofs on the internet have made an effort to compare, only to come up short in some area?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 3:31:53 PM #143:	thanks-gohan posted... I don't even know what you're referring to. There's a shitty gaming PC chart out there that puts it up against a PS4, Xbox One, Wii U and a box of pop tarts at the start of this gen. It's very misinformed and pretty underhanded as a comparison tool thanks-gohan posted... Console gaming is more expensive because you're upgrading more often and you're spending more on an entire system as opposed to individual parts. So a friend of mine bought a PS4 for $199 on Black Friday. Hell it's normally $299 all other times of the year. That'll play just about every game out this gen. He probably won't upgrade until the PS5 is on sale for a similar price. What about his purchase is more expensive than a PC rig that will likely have several thousand dollars invested in it to play the same games? Hell, escalate that to a PS4 Pro/Xbox One X. One time $300 to $500 purchase for all the games that'll run on it this gen and some of next. How do you expect to convince someone that spending close to $1000 for a comparable product is the better buy? And no, don't fall back on game prices/membership costs. For years you could buy new games for $48 or less thanks to Best Buy's GCU and Amazon's offerings, and memberships always go on sale. I bought 2 whole years of Xbox Live for around $50 with my console. Would've had more but I gave a few months to @Romulox28 thanks-gohan posted... A PC with 2012 parts can do Xbox One X performance for half the price (Xbox One plus Xbox One X). Please, let me see your citation for that. I'd love to see a $250 gaming PC that can do 4K 60 FPS reliably. And no stacking the console prices lmao, the Xbox One X is an entire package and should be judged as such. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922833343] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>I don't even know what you're referring to.</quote> There's a shitty gaming PC chart out there that puts it up against a PS4, Xbox One, Wii U and a box of pop tarts at the start of this gen. It's very misinformed and pretty underhanded as a comparison tool <cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>Console gaming is more expensive because you're upgrading more often and you're spending more on an entire system as opposed to individual parts.</quote> So a friend of mine bought a PS4 for $199 on Black Friday. Hell it's normally $299 all other times of the year. That'll play just about every game out this gen. He probably won't upgrade until the PS5 is on sale for a similar price. What about his purchase is more expensive than a PC rig that will likely have several thousand dollars invested in it to play the same games? Hell, escalate that to a PS4 Pro/Xbox One X. One time $300 to $500 purchase for all the games that'll run on it this gen and some of next. How do you expect to convince someone that spending close to $1000 for a comparable product is the better buy? And no, don't fall back on game prices/membership costs. For years you could buy new games for $48 or less thanks to Best Buy's GCU and Amazon's offerings, and memberships always go on sale. I bought 2 whole years of Xbox Live for around $50 with my console. Would've had more but I gave a few months to @Romulox28 <cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote> A PC with 2012 parts can do Xbox One X performance for half the price (Xbox One plus Xbox One X).</quote> Please, let me see your citation for that. I'd love to see a $250 gaming PC that can do 4K 60 FPS reliably. And no stacking the console prices lmao, the Xbox One X is an entire package and should be judged as such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 06/05/19 4:00:48 PM #146:	Yeah it's clear that I'm talking to a wall at this point. Whose account are you BTW? if you're calling me that pet name it must be a familiar one --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:922834733] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's clear that I'm talking to a wall at this point. Whose account are you BTW? if you're calling me that pet name it must be a familiar one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Meganekko 06/05/19 4:53:30 PM #148:	thanks-gohan posted... PS4 Pro is gaming's magnum opus It was a desperate cash grab that barely amounted to anything <cite>Meganekko posted [p:922837250] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>PS4 Pro is gaming's magnum opus</quote> It was a desperate cash grab that barely amounted to anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 06/05/19 4:54:37 PM #149:	clearly have not played any of the accaimed fap simulators that pc gaming is defined by --- https://i.imgtc.com/PruZV73.png https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:922837299] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote>clearly have not played any of the accaimed fap simulators that pc gaming is defined by</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 06/05/19 5:09:12 PM #151:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Would've had more but I gave a few months to @Romulox28 a true homie, salut --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:922837968] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>Would've had more but I gave a few months to @Romulox28 </quote> a true homie, salut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 06/06/19 3:58:32 AM #152:	thanks-gohan posted... Please, let me see your citation for that. I'd love to see a $250 gaming PC that can do 4K 60 FPS reliably. No console can do 4K 60FPS reliably for $250. Or $300. Or $400. Or $500. PS4 and Xbone can't even do true 4k gaming @ 30fps. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:922861508] in what is th... [t:77758816]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Please, let me see your citation for that. I'd love to see a $250 gaming PC that can do 4K 60 FPS reliably. </quote> No console can do 4K 60FPS reliably for $250. Or $300. Or $400. Or $500.</quote> PS4 and Xbone can't even do true 4k gaming @ 30fps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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