Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 1. Welcome to Survivor Series!

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Gtg to work so vote totals will need to be covered

Relax, dude, you have a co-host.
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##sultan only scum have jobs

does red show up these days before d4 or should we press him early
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Caught up. The face/heel talk is pointless. Corrik is dying right now.

##Vig:Corrik

Just kidding
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I am interested in other people's reads on SBell and on Tom. I don't have a strong read on SBell, Tom seems a little defensive. My roommate powers are tingling, but it's still D1.

I also don't have a good read on Han, but I don't see much of a reason to vote him. So meh.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Dang I was gonna counter claim MZero but he left to sleep and I don't feel like waiting that long

???

Yeah I'm glad someone else saw this too. Is puns someone who jokes around? Or did he just soft claim miller in such a way that it's not really a soft claim?

Or is it D1 shenanigans? Like saying something weird just to eff with everyone because D1 lols?
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pezloco posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Dang I was gonna counter claim MZero but he left to sleep and I don't feel like waiting that long

???

Yeah I'm glad someone else saw this too. Is puns someone who jokes around? Or did he just soft claim miller in such a way that it's not really a soft claim?

Or is it D1 shenanigans? Like saying something weird just to eff with everyone because D1 lols?

He was going to push the claim with a counter to see how Mzero reacted but Mzero is Asian and sleeping and prob gone for the next 12 hours or so.
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Han coming into this game automatically scrutinizing my first post is indicitive of scum currently. His last town game he did not do this.

Its a common play of his and he's also not stupid Nd knows very well that his criticism of my comments on heel and Face are what's forced and fake.

Han rolled scum and showed his hand way too fast.

Corrik this game is going to be too easy.

##vote:han

I said I didn't want day one to be Bout a Miller claim after all.
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Obellisk posted...

Han coming into this game automatically scrutinizing my first post is indicitive of scum currently. His last town game he did not do this.

Its a common play of his and he's also not stupid Nd knows very well that his criticism of my comments on heel and Face are what's forced and fake.

Han rolled scum and showed his hand way too fast.

Corrik this game is going to be too easy.

##vote:han

I said I didn't want day one to be Bout a Miller claim after all.

I agree. The argument is way too stupid to be real from him. Especially to go to fruition of a vote cuz of it. Likely Scum. I hesitate because he was so damn bad in last game on day 1 also with bad and nonsensical arguments tho. However, at this point he is the most likeliest scum.
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Side note, normally I'd default to Han being his usual self and it's infact town han, but his scrutiny feels much faker than normal opening post shpiels.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

##sultan only scum have jobs

does red show up these days before d4 or should we press him early

I just landed here like 5 hours aho, got to the hotel and took a nap.

pezloco posted...

I am interested in other people's reads on SBell and on Tom. I don't have a strong read on SBell, Tom seems a little defensive. My roommate powers are tingling, but it's still D1.

SBell seems fine based on his Han vote there.

I've given my read of Tom, want to help me by voting him?

Also tom i cant remember the last time i lived to day 4.

turbopuns3 posted...

SBell seems fine based on his Han vote there.

WAIT

I forgot Corrik was already voting Han before SBell voted

I retract my statement. I'm null leaning scum on SBell

Leafeon13N posted...

Also tom i cant remember the last time i lived to day 4.

You lived and won as scum in Japenese History Mafia.
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Obellisk posted...

I said I didn't want day one to be Bout a Miller claim after all.

In particular this feels like a bit of over the top justification for his vote

turbopuns3 posted...

pezloco posted...

I am interested in other people's reads on SBell and on Tom. I don't have a strong read on SBell, Tom seems a little defensive. My roommate powers are tingling, but it's still D1.

SBell seems fine based on his Han vote there.

I've given my read of Tom, want to help me by voting him?

Care to say anything more than fishy?
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turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I said I didn't want day one to be Bout a Miller claim after all.

In particular this feels like a bit of over the top justification for his vote

Has nothing to do with the vote. Has to do with going to war with Han.

Puns... You scum bro?
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No not currently

That was a funny ninja

I was answering pez

Obellisk posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I said I didn't want day one to be Bout a Miller claim after all.

In particular this feels like a bit of over the top justification for his vote

Has nothing to do with the vote. Has to do with going to war with Han.

Puns... You scum bro?

turbopuns3 posted...

No not currently

AHHHHHHHH

lol
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Obellisk posted...

Puns... You scum bro?

Is everyone who calls you suspicious scum?

Puns is town btw.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Puns... You scum bro?

Is everyone who calls you suspicious scum?

Not necessarily . Just those who think I need to justify voting for obv scum Han, look poor.

But really just a question. Not calling you scum. Asking if you are scum. There is a difference.
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Corrik7 posted...

Puns is town btw.

I'll form an opinion of my own, but appreciate your input up to now.
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Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?
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Sbell isn't townpower like he was last game.
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Corrik7 posted...

Sbell isn't townpower like he was last game.

There's a lot of responsibility being cop. Very stressful.
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Corrik7 posted...

Sbell isn't townpower like he was last game.

Assuming you're right, this was a stupid thing to say. Don't give scum any clues, especially not D1.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Sbell isn't townpower like he was last game.

Assuming you're right, this was a stupid thing to say. Don't give scum any clues, especially not D1.

Clues

Misdirection

Tomfoolery

Let scum sort it out. I haven't claimed.
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Obellisk posted...

Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?

Being the first person to vote another is always different. Puns initial read was based on how you voted but also thinking you were the first on him. Then he saw you were the second and it changed the calculus behind his read on you. It happens.
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Obellisk posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Sbell isn't townpower like he was last game.

Assuming you're right, this was a stupid thing to say. Don't give scum any clues, especially not D1.

Clues

Misdirection

Tomfoolery

Let scum sort it out. I haven't claimed.

I know you haven't. But that doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't be giving out clues as to who may or may not be power. That's foolish.
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Obellisk posted...

Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?

The fact Corrik's vote was already on Han gives your vote a softer place to land. It makes it more appealing of a vote option if you're scum.

So like without Corrik's vote and without you buddying him in the same breath, it would just come across as whatever, probably town because it would be an oddly blatant countervote for scum SBell to make.

But with Corrik's vote being there AND you buddying him AND the little tacked on justification at the end it makes it more likely you are giving Corrik some traction to jump the gun on Han's attack of you and nip it in the bud.

Corrik did the outloud I THINK THIS PLAYER IS VANILLA a lot as scum in the last game.

Corrik Strike 1
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Yeah SBell is Scum.

As he pointed out, me going after him is a play. I DO think that post of his is weird, but I had a really bad misfire on SBell theee games ago, so I wouldn't be so sure of myself based off of one post here.

But last time Town Han went after Town SBell, he saw it as me being me and thought of me as Town.

This SBell IMMEDIATELY countered by calling me Scum, despite pointing out that I focus on him a lot. If Town, he'd be looking at me just latching onto him poorly, like I did three games ago.

That game is not clear from SBell's memory. Which means he is making a purely defensive play by pushing at me here, since he foresees me declaring this a gut read on him and tunneling him.

*Edgeworth bow*
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turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?

The fact Corrik's vote was already on Han gives your vote a softer place to land. It makes it more appealing of a vote option if you're scum.

So like without Corrik's vote and without you buddying him in the same breath, it would just come across as whatever, probably town because it would be an oddly blatant countervote for scum SBell to make.

But with Corrik's vote being there AND you buddying him AND the little tacked on justification at the end it makes it more likely you are giving Corrik some traction to jump the gun on Han's attack of you and nip it in the bud.

I guess alot is riding on me seeing Corrik vote before posting.

I saw Hans post, started typing, had to get to winrys softball game, finished typing and posted.

Bad assumptions are bad.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

This SBell IMMEDIATELY countered by calling me Scum, despite pointing out that I focus on him a lot. If Town, he'd be looking at me just latching onto him poorly, like I did three games ago.

I explained why I countered you and didn't chalk it off as "oh Han".

Ignoring my reasoning for why you are scum doesn't make you not scum.

*exaggerated mocking bow*
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Obellisk posted...

I saw Hans post, immediately got scared and posted an aggressive defense

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I'm not Scum, so your reasoning is either fake, or bad.
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Obellisk posted...

Bad assumptions are bad.

Reads the same to me regardless. *shrug*

Ok let's not mock each other, be friendly please

Town SBell is way friendlier and willing to work with people and discover the truth.

Scum SBell is a lot more confrontational.

This is Scum.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Ok let's not mock each other, be friendly please

He called me a fucking idiot on page one.

Talk to him. Not me.
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Obellisk posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?

The fact Corrik's vote was already on Han gives your vote a softer place to land. It makes it more appealing of a vote option if you're scum.

So like without Corrik's vote and without you buddying him in the same breath, it would just come across as whatever, probably town because it would be an oddly blatant countervote for scum SBell to make.

But with Corrik's vote being there AND you buddying him AND the little tacked on justification at the end it makes it more likely you are giving Corrik some traction to jump the gun on Han's attack of you and nip it in the bud.

I guess alot is riding on me seeing Corrik vote before posting.

I saw Hans post, started typing, had to get to winrys softball game, finished typing and posted.

Bad assumptions are bad.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

In the world's where you post the first vote you tend to town a vast majority of the time.

In the world's where you post the second vote, it's split more evenly.

The odds that you are town are higher if you had the first vote. Puns isn't saying you are definitely scum because you had the second vote. But he is saying that it's possible, as in it's conceivable. We don't get to know whether you saw Corrik's vote first or not. We only know that Corrik's vote came first. Therefore we clearly cannot choose the cup in front of you.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Obellisk posted...

I saw Hans post, immediately got scared and posted an aggressive defense

Posting blatant false posts as direct quotes is not a TOWN thing to do.

FAKE NEWS

LIES

SCUM.
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pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Puns, I would like an explanation as to how my vote countering Han, in direct response to Han is rendered a negative mark because Corrik managed to read and post before I had the opportunity to.

Whats the scale here?

The fact Corrik's vote was already on Han gives your vote a softer place to land. It makes it more appealing of a vote option if you're scum.

So like without Corrik's vote and without you buddying him in the same breath, it would just come across as whatever, probably town because it would be an oddly blatant countervote for scum SBell to make.

But with Corrik's vote being there AND you buddying him AND the little tacked on justification at the end it makes it more likely you are giving Corrik some traction to jump the gun on Han's attack of you and nip it in the bud.

I guess alot is riding on me seeing Corrik vote before posting.

I saw Hans post, started typing, had to get to winrys softball game, finished typing and posted.

Bad assumptions are bad.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

In the world's where you post the first vote you tend to town a vast majority of the time.

In the world's where you post the second vote, it's split more evenly.

The odds that you are town are higher if you had the first vote. Puns isn't saying you are definitely scum because you had the second vote. But he is saying that it's possible, as in it's conceivable. We don't get to know whether you saw Corrik's vote first or not. We only know that Corrik's vote came first. Therefore we clearly cannot choose the cup in front of you.

Accepted.

However a lot of assumption is still involved.
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Obellisk posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Ok let's not mock each other, be friendly please

He called me a fucking idiot on page one.

Talk to him. Not me.

Actually, I was. Referring to post #137

Corrik voting me is a town tell because he's not good at reading people.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Obellisk posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Ok let's not mock each other, be friendly please

He called me a fucking idiot on page one.

Talk to him. Not me.

Actually, I was. Referring to post #137

As you were.

:P
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I didnt think post 137 was nearly as mean as other stuff I've said, but I will certainly apologize.

I love you SBell, you're a great dude, and I'm sorry if my attacks get rude. The "fucking idiot" was very much a step too far and I am ashamed to have posted it instead of something more clever and less rude.

I still think you're Scum tho
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Daughter's dance recital is going down in about 5mins
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