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Taharqa_
05/28/19 11:29:29 AM
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Any sudden movement by that guy and the cop would have shot him. The way he yelled "Gun!" after telling the guy to turn off the car was a setup to escalate the situation. If the dude was such a threat the cop wouldn't have taken his eyes off of him.

Cop: You should have left.
Guy: I was on the way out.
Cop: You came back.
Guy: How I came back?
Cop: You never left.
Me:

Ah he'll probably get paid leave.
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Shablagoo
05/28/19 11:31:13 AM
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He really wanted to do some murderin that day. Thankfully all the good eggs ran in there and intervened!
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coolboy11
05/28/19 11:36:10 AM
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states and Congress needs to pass legislation to allow for self defense from rotten apples like this dick head.
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SomeGuyUO
05/28/19 11:49:59 AM
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damn
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VipaGTS
05/28/19 11:52:42 AM
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his job is hard you guys please understand!
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Questionmarktarius
05/28/19 11:57:16 AM
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Yet another reason robot cars can't get here soon enough.
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sktgamer_13dude
05/28/19 11:57:18 AM
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How dare he commit the heinous crime of DWB.
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ledbowman
05/28/19 12:01:45 PM
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That guy almost took out an entire division. Pray for our police officers.
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ZeroKelvin
05/28/19 12:03:38 PM
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Just another shitty pig who wont suffer any negative consequences for misconduct
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spudger
05/28/19 12:08:46 PM
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ZeroKelvin posted...
Just another shitty pig who wont suffer any negative consequences for misconduct

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Zikten
05/28/19 12:16:12 PM
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This is what cops do. They say you have a gun and then try to give you orders to trick you into giving them a reason to shoot. Luckily that man was smart and understood what was happening
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---Devin---
05/28/19 8:45:37 PM
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Wow at this shit
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GiftedACIII
05/28/19 8:59:54 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Guy: I was on the way out.
Cop: You came back.
Guy: How I came back?
Cop: You never left.

lmao this is awful
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myzz007
05/28/19 9:03:28 PM
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yelling GUN! was super dirty. that dude wanted it to pop off.
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TrevorBlack79
05/28/19 9:04:56 PM
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spudger posted...
ZeroKelvin posted...
Just another shitty pig who wont suffer any negative consequences for misconduct

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LordRazziel
05/28/19 9:06:00 PM
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Wonder if anything will even happen to that cop.
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---Devin---
05/28/19 9:22:09 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Wonder if anything will even happen to that cop.


Should be in jail. Dude was trying to end the guys life
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rodu_jr
05/28/19 9:24:55 PM
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Whatever happened to internal affairs? Is that still a thing?
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SauI_Goodman
05/28/19 9:30:09 PM
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even when he yells gun the other cops in the back don't even react lmao
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ultimate reaver
05/28/19 9:32:14 PM
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dude's hungering for blood
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Dark_Spiret
05/28/19 9:33:21 PM
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cop wanted to get it on, hard.
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LordRazziel
05/28/19 9:34:41 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
Whatever happened to internal affairs? Is that still a thing?

We investigated ourselves, and found we did nothing wrong.
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SiO4
05/28/19 9:40:04 PM
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That was dirty...Almost seems like the other cops know that dudes messed up.
Also, why is he holding his gun like a 90's want to be gangsta bro.

Kids actually kinda smart here.
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LordRazziel
05/28/19 9:48:20 PM
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SiO4 posted...
That was dirty...Almost seems like the other cops know that dudes messed up.
Also, why is he holding his gun like a 90's want to be gangsta bro.

Kids actually kinda smart here.

He's holding that way because of the close range. You don't want to put your gun where it could be grabbed. The rest of this is total bullshit, though.
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SiO4
05/28/19 10:04:01 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
SiO4 posted...
That was dirty...Almost seems like the other cops know that dudes messed up.
Also, why is he holding his gun like a 90's want to be gangsta bro.

Kids actually kinda smart here.

He's holding that way because of the close range. You don't want to put your gun where it could be grabbed. The rest of this is total bullshit, though.


Ahh... Also, the moment he looks away from the dude in the car to see whats going on behind him...He knows he's full of shit.
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Blue_Dream87
05/29/19 5:28:03 AM
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This is some dirty shit, and it's sad that in response to police we have to just keep our hands up and do nothing, or else get shot for even complying with orders.

That cop needs to face justice, but we all know that won't happen.
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_Matchabuu_
05/29/19 5:45:14 AM
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spudger posted...
ZeroKelvin posted...
Just another shitty pig who wont suffer any negative consequences for misconduct

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AsianFury2020
05/29/19 6:03:06 AM
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"Gun!". What the hell?
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Lonestar2000
05/29/19 4:59:53 PM
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He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780
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Goats
05/29/19 5:05:03 PM
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Fucking terrifying. Hope that kid is okay. Cop legit wanted to kill him.
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ZMythos
05/29/19 5:10:44 PM
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LordRazziel posted...

He's holding that way because of the close range. You don't want to put your gun where it could be grabbed.

Yea but if he fired it the recoil would've snapped his wrist or took out his eye lol
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Taharqa_
05/29/19 5:18:03 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun
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Webmaster4531
05/29/19 5:22:31 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun

He's black so now AR15 means Assault Rifle 15. /sarcasm
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VipaGTS
05/29/19 5:40:51 PM
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So I noticed some of the usual suspects who are quick to rush into these topics and defend shitty cop behavior are ghosting this story...cant find a way to blame the innocent citizen in this one?
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TommyG663513
05/29/19 5:45:26 PM
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_Matchabuu_ posted...
spudger posted...
ZeroKelvin posted...
Just another shitty pig who wont suffer any negative consequences for misconduct

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---Devin---
05/29/19 6:17:54 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
So I noticed some of the usual suspects who are quick to rush into these topics and defend shitty cop behavior are ghosting this story...cant find a way to blame the innocent citizen in this one?

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Pogo_Marimo
05/29/19 6:26:19 PM
#38:


Taharqa_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".

Nah, of course not. You're going to double down on "not having a gun" is the same things as "literally having a gun within arms reach" because otherwise you'd be wrong, and we can't have that can we? If we start admitting our mistakes, where does it end?! Maybe the driver was refusing commands prior to the video starting and was acting beligerantly, prompting the officer to draw his sidearm when he saw the AR in the backseat? Maybe not all police are blood-thirsty psychos looking to murder people? Maybe taking information in context and waiting for comprehensive knowledge of a situation is important before reaching conclusions such as "Police officer trying to execute black man cuz bad"?
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IMNOTRAGED
05/29/19 6:29:09 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".


Him having a gun doesn't actually change anything though. The cop still escalated the situation to an absurd degree
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Ararararagi
05/29/19 6:37:41 PM
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I sincerely need a handbook on helping the cops feel safe and secure in this sort of situation. I would be of the same mind to keep my hands up and refuse any further commands after their gun is drawn that close to me. What do you even do?
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justaguy3492
05/29/19 6:39:44 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".

Nah, of course not. You're going to double down on "not having a gun" is the same things as "literally having a gun within arms reach" because otherwise you'd be wrong, and we can't have that can we? If we start admitting our mistakes, where does it end?! Maybe the driver was refusing commands prior to the video starting and was acting beligerantly, prompting the officer to draw his sidearm when he saw the AR in the backseat? Maybe not all police are blood-thirsty psychos looking to murder people? Maybe taking information in context and waiting for comprehensive knowledge of a situation is important before reaching conclusions such as "Police officer trying to execute black man cuz bad"?


I like the part where you say he's taking things out of context and then proceed to make up your own context.
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Pogo_Marimo
05/29/19 6:40:51 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".


Him having a gun doesn't actually change anything though. The cop still escalated the situation to an absurd degree

We never even saw anything prior to the officer drawing his firearm. We don't see anything prior to know why he drew his service pistol. We do know, however, that he is being defiant and refusing to turn off the car despite the officer very calmly asking him to (And the officer literally saying, very calmly, "I'm not going to shoot you, I just need you to turn off the car").
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IMNOTRAGED
05/29/19 6:46:23 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
officer very calmly


Yeah, okay
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Pogo_Marimo
05/29/19 6:47:17 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".

Nah, of course not. You're going to double down on "not having a gun" is the same things as "literally having a gun within arms reach" because otherwise you'd be wrong, and we can't have that can we? If we start admitting our mistakes, where does it end?! Maybe the driver was refusing commands prior to the video starting and was acting beligerantly, prompting the officer to draw his sidearm when he saw the AR in the backseat? Maybe not all police are blood-thirsty psychos looking to murder people? Maybe taking information in context and waiting for comprehensive knowledge of a situation is important before reaching conclusions such as "Police officer trying to execute black man cuz bad"?


I like the part where you say he's taking things out of context and then proceed to make up your own context.

I'm not making up context, I'm providing examples of things that could very reasonably be true based on the info we have. These examples are no more true or false than anything else people have stated in this topic (Aside from there not being a gun, that's patently false), but I'm not asserting they're true. I'm applying simple skepticism, and applying a broad perspective of possibilities to what has so far in this topic been an extremely confident but narrow-minded parade of assertions.
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Blue_Dream87
05/29/19 6:52:29 PM
#45:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
IMNOTRAGED posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".


Him having a gun doesn't actually change anything though. The cop still escalated the situation to an absurd degree

We never even saw anything prior to the officer drawing his firearm. We don't see anything prior to know why he drew his service pistol. We do know, however, that he is being defiant and refusing to turn off the car despite the officer very calmly asking him to (And the officer literally saying, very calmly, "I'm not going to shoot you, I just need you to turn off the car").


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Bluebomber182
05/29/19 6:55:26 PM
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btw arkansas is a permitless open carry state so him having the ar15 was fine
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Pogo_Marimo
05/29/19 6:56:05 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
officer very calmly


Yeah, okay

What did he do that was unreasonable or outrageous? He stood outside of arms reach and clearly repeated his commands multiple times. He was not shouting him down or threatening him verbally. Every single command he gave was clear and concise and spoken in a commanding tone to gain compliance. The driver refused to comply (In fact he claims he wasn't able to turn off his car because the officer would shoot him, but had no problem at the start of the video fiddling with his phone down near his hip for 5 seconds--It's almost like he didn't actually think the officer would shoot him, and instead was using it as an excuse to be defiant). Then he refused to step out of the vehicle as well AFTER the officer had holstered his gun because he still "thought" the officer was going to shoot him.
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VipaGTS
05/29/19 6:56:07 PM
#48:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
He had a gun.

https://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/arkansas-man-details-frightening-encounter-with-police/952670780


It was in the backseat, and he didn't get charged for the gun

I think what you meant to say was, "I was full of shit when I said he didn't have a gun because my gut instinct is to believe every statement that paints police in a bad light".

Nah, of course not. You're going to double down on "not having a gun" is the same things as "literally having a gun within arms reach" because otherwise you'd be wrong, and we can't have that can we? If we start admitting our mistakes, where does it end?! Maybe the driver was refusing commands prior to the video starting and was acting beligerantly, prompting the officer to draw his sidearm when he saw the AR in the backseat? Maybe not all police are blood-thirsty psychos looking to murder people? Maybe taking information in context and waiting for comprehensive knowledge of a situation is important before reaching conclusions such as "Police officer trying to execute black man cuz bad"?


I like the part where you say he's taking things out of context and then proceed to make up your own context.

I'm not making up context, I'm providing examples of things that could very reasonably be true based on the info we have. These examples are no more true or false than anything else people have stated in this topic (Aside from there not being a gun, that's patently false), but I'm not asserting they're true. I'm applying simple skepticism, and applying a broad perspective of possibilities to what has so far in this topic been an extremely confident but narrow-minded parade of assertions.

lmao bro. This cop fucked up. He is in the wrong here 100%. Just admit it. Why are you fighting it so hard?
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Tyranthraxus
05/29/19 6:56:34 PM
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I think the cop's reaction to being told "you're telling me to shut off my car so you can shoot me" pretty much says it all.

Like, nope, my hands staying right here, you wanna shut off the car, do it yourself.
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Bluebomber182
05/29/19 6:57:51 PM
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charles kinsey got shot while on his back and having his arms in the air
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