Board 8 > Avengers: Endgame Mafia Topic 7

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Players
1. Death
2. Puns
3. Obelisk
4. Ben
6. Hbthebattle
7. Scare
8. Ulti
9. Camarija
10. IGCD (replaces Lolo)
11. Marth
13. Sultan
14. Crescent-Moon
15. Corrik7
16. Eaedward

Replaces
2. Keldeo

LD1: Tange, Captain Marvel, Town Odd Night Commuter
KN1: Han, Bruce Banner, Town Bodyguard
KN1: Red, Thor, Town Vanilla

Day 2 ends at 10:00 PM EST Sunday night. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

Bring it big boy

If you feel that I haven't done enough to merit a clear, then come get some

So rather than justify yourself, which might appease me and help me to look at other potential scum

You choose to continue to deflect, not actually engage in discussion with me, this adding more fluff to the game.

One-two-three-four
Uno-do'-tres-cuatro
I know you want me (want me)
You know I want cha (want cha)
I know you want me
You know I want cha (want cha)
I know you want me (want me)
You know I want cha (want cha)
I know you want me
You know I want cha (want cha)

also please dont lose your sanity
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htaeD posted...

also please dont lose your sanity

My original point stands

If I haven't done enough to assuage concerns, then we're just beating around the bush and in this case Puns has already decided how he wants to feel about me, and what he wants to do to sort me

There is nothing I can say, explain, or argue that would change his mind, either because he is Town stuck in his mindset, or Mafia looking to solidify his line

It's a waste of both of our time, and I'd rather not waste effort where it isn't appreciated

Votals would be nice
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At least cam is providing comic relief by either

A) rolling over as scum, or

B) being one of the most comically vain, uncooperative, self-delusional town ever

turbopuns3 posted...

At least cam is providing comic relief by either

A) rolling over as scum, or

B) being one of the most comically vain, uncooperative, self-delusional town ever

zzzz

ZZZZZZZ

zzzzzzzzzzzz

boring

Puns ; tell me how you really feel about Ben

Camarija posted...

If I haven't done enough to assuage concerns, then we're just beating around the bush and in this case Puns has already decided how he wants to feel about me, and what he wants to do to sort me

There is nothing I can say, explain, or argue that would change his mind, either because he is Town stuck in his mindset, or Mafia looking to solidify his line

This post is absurd!!!!!!

Especially the bold part.

I am asking you to help me understand a point you made and you are refusing.

Outright refusing!

It's not as IF there are zero other players I would he interested in lynching today. I am considering more than just you.

Your ego is through the roof my friend. Assuming you are an omniscient mind reader of all players. Holy hell.

Lets see

@benjamin3740
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turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

If I haven't done enough to assuage concerns, then we're just beating around the bush and in this case Puns has already decided how he wants to feel about me, and what he wants to do to sort me

There is nothing I can say, explain, or argue that would change his mind, either because he is Town stuck in his mindset, or Mafia looking to solidify his line

This post is absurd!!!!!!

Especially the bold part.

I am asking you to help me understand a point you made and you are refusing.

Outright refusing!

It's not as IF there are zero other players I would he interested in lynching today. I am considering more than just you.

Your ego is through the roof my friend. Assuming you are an omniscient mind reader of all players. Holy hell.

We've already discussed plenty together at length

By far I have the most content thus far

If what I've provided isn't enough, it never will be

That doesn't mean I'm done trying to solve you, it just means, why bother pretending to solve me?

Quantity is not always quality.
(I dont mean to sound sassy here btw)
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Camarija posted...

That doesn't mean I'm done trying to solve you, it just means, why bother pretending to solve me?

Ok.

You have prophesied that you will be mislynched today.

Ok. So, what if I think ben is scum right now and I'm wrong about that?

If would be helpful to me, if you end up flipping town, to understand why you are so sure Ben is town.

But you outright refuse to explain it to me. Whyyyyyyy?

htaeD posted...

Quantity is not always quality.
(I dont mean to sound sassy here btw)

I've already pointed out that most of his content has not be received well by a good number of players, but this fact seems irrelevant to him.

htaeD posted...

Quantity is not always quality.
(I dont mean to sound sassy here btw)

No doubt, but it doesn't hurt

I've provided in depth post by post thoughts on no less than 7 players with summaries and wolf %'s

Has any other player approached that?

I've probably pissed off enough players to demonstrate that I couldn't be Mafia with... well.. everyone at some point or another; that's the perk of adopting this this style of play

The downside of this style of play, is that those who are Town and were pissed off may be too mad to recognize I can't be mafia witht he vast majority of players :D

It's ok though, I'll help you guys out

Benjamin is Town

Sultan is Mafia

YW

turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

That doesn't mean I'm done trying to solve you, it just means, why bother pretending to solve me?

Ok.

You have prophesied that you will be mislynched today.

Ok. So, what if I think ben is scum right now and I'm wrong about that?

If would be helpful to me, if you end up flipping town, to understand why you are so sure Ben is town.

But you outright refuse to explain it to me. Whyyyyyyy?

If I were to say that it is role related, would that appease you?

https://media.tenor.com/images/90ec0f666be016085b6c97936c7c20bb/tenor.gif

It's like how Corrik was (and still is, but to a lesser extent) known for caring far more about being correct than cooperating with town to win.

Cam cares more about making the most points than he does about cooperating with town to win.

There's this air of "nothing anyone thinks matters if it goes against my play style", or "if anyone thinks anything I'm doing might be flawed, they're just not as enlightened as I am"

It's a self-awareness thing

I'll see y'all towards end of day

Cheers

-Town Leader Sharon Carter (Baby)

Camarija posted...

If I were to say that it is role related, would that appease you?

So what is it going to be - are you going to explain youe thought process or simply admit that there was nothing valid to your though process? It has to be one or the other.

Did this game just get pitbull'd
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turbopuns3 posted...

At least cam is providing comic relief by either

A) rolling over as scum, or

B) being one of the most comically vain, uncooperative, self-delusional town ever

I am not sure he can be scum. Nothing makes sense unless he is Town Vanilla.

For him to even had fathomed that, he would have had to of been uninformed and saw his own role as Town Vanilla. Have an epiphany seeing that guy claim Town Vanilla as his role said and being like that's odd he actually knows it is *laugh* an unconventional (to him) naming *laugh*. How would he know that this early into the game unless he himself was also Town Vanilla like me.

If he is Town anything else, he doesn't have this epiphany. If he is scum, why this route? I mean, that's super high tier scum if he is scum. But, it also means he would have to be a scum role that doesn't move often because he knows by saying what he did he basically claimed Town Vanilla.

If he at any points claims to move, kill him. He can't possibly have come to that conclusion unless Town Vanilla himself.
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But, you are right. He shouldn't have jumped to the conclusion anyways as much as he has decried claims due to safelists and such all game. He made an error to jump to a wrong conclusion and cannot admit it.

He is 95% Town Vanilla and 5% mafia imo

Like I said, he cannot be town if he isn't town vanilla. So if he moves or claims to, he dies.
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Corrik7 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

At least cam is providing comic relief by either

A) rolling over as scum, or

B) being one of the most comically vain, uncooperative, self-delusional town ever

I am not sure he can be scum. Nothing makes sense unless he is Town Vanilla.

For him to even had fathomed that, he would have had to of been uninformed and saw his own role as Town Vanilla. Have an epiphany seeing that guy claim Town Vanilla as his role said and being like that's odd he actually knows it is *laugh* an unconventional (to him) naming *laugh*. How would he know that this early into the game unless he himself was also Town Vanilla like me.

If he is Town anything else, he doesn't have this epiphany. If he is scum, why this route? I mean, that's super high tier scum if he is scum. But, it also means he would have to be a scum role that doesn't move often because he knows by saying what he did he basically claimed Town Vanilla.

If he at any points claims to move, kill him. He can't possibly have come to that conclusion unless Town Vanilla himself.

negative corrik!MAFIA

Even after everyting you heard, Ben is town for what reason?
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Camarija posted...

By far I have the most content thus far

I do. You have a lot of useless crap. Like, you didn't notice in your readthroughs that Ben claimed his flavor isn't in endgame when it is.
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Corrik7 posted...

But, you are right. He shouldn't have jumped to the conclusion anyways as much as he has decried claims due to safelists and such all game. He made an error to jump to a wrong conclusion and cannot admit it.

He is 95% Town Vanilla and 5% mafia imo

Like I said, he cannot be town if he isn't town vanilla. So if he moves or claims to, he dies.

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr02/19/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-11689-1400515433-12.gif

htaeD posted...

Even after everyting you heard, Ben is town for what reason?

I felt it in my blood just after the game was randed, and just before the game started

Tho to further what I said, he doesn't seem to like the watcher is basically confirmed town either. But, this happened prior to his answer. So, I am gonna handwave it.
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Camarija posted...

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

So you withdraw your prophesy then kappa

Is he going straight fire_bolt? Knocked off his holy stool so now he is gonna troll the game?
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turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

So you withdraw your prophesy then kappa

Corrik WILL vote me, no matter how obvious it is I can't be mafia with anyone

There is no contradiction

Stop being pedantic

@IfGodCouldDie

Hey, what part of Lolo's play led you to believe he is scum?
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Camarija posted...

htaeD posted...

Even after everyting you heard, Ben is town for what reason?

I felt it in my blood just after the game was randed, and just before the game started

Not funny
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Camarija posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

So you withdraw your prophesy then kappa

Corrik WILL vote me, no matter how obvious it is I can't be mafia with anyone

There is no contradiction

Stop being pedantic

I am literally not voting you and saying ur town. Jesus. Play the game or replace out.

Ben is looking like scum. Vote Ben or Ulti.
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Corrik7 posted...

Is he going straight fire_bolt? Knocked off his holy stool so now he is gonna troll the game?

See you in post game space cowboy :tips hat:

Let's see how accurate I was with me reads matey

Corrik7 posted...

Camarija posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

So you withdraw your prophesy then kappa

Corrik WILL vote me, no matter how obvious it is I can't be mafia with anyone

There is no contradiction

Stop being pedantic

I am literally not voting you and saying ur town. Jesus. Play the game or replace out.

Ben is looking like scum. Vote Ben or Ulti.

The bolded is toxic

Dun do that

Camarija posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Camarija posted...

You're going to laugh when you're forced to kill me

So you withdraw your prophesy then kappa

Corrik WILL vote me, no matter how obvious it is I can't be mafia with anyone

There is no contradiction

Stop being pedantic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/kappa

Now when shit gets late.

benjamin3740 posted...

I will comment now that I am very against lynching Ulti. I like the claim. I also am not seeing why the day is "about" Ulti and Red, or has to end in one of their lynches. Which I don't like from Corrik and HB

Benjamin topic 4 says Ulti is town and he likes his claim.
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Cam, I've been reading and I am now questioning many many things
How the fuck is Ben town because he said "Town Vanilla"? Wouldn't the scum know the way its written via their own roles being "Scum XXXX" or "Mafia XXXX" or whatever
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Cam, I think you are distracting everyone from people we may actually want to lynch.
Stop please.
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So, enough with this Cam show

Everyone here who partook:
@turbopuns3
@Corrik7
@htaeD
and Scarechan

It's clear you're active enough to continually point out my comical nature of drawing attention, you should be active enough to contribute to the game!! WOOOO

With the exception of Scarechan, since he already did this, let's get YOUR reads across the board!!!

Please discuss EACH AND EVERY player

Players
1. Death
2. turbopuns3
3. Obelisk
4. Benjamin3740
6. Hbthebattle
7. Scare
8. UltimaterializerX
10. IGCD
11. Marth
13. TheSultanOfSlam
14. Crescent-Moon
15. Corrik7
16. Eaedward
17. Tange

Hbthebattle posted...

Cam, I've been reading and I am now questioning many many things
How the fuck is Ben town because he said "Town Vanilla"? Wouldn't the scum know the way its written via their own roles being "Scum XXXX" or "Mafia XXXX" or whatever

@Hbthebattle

Same with you buddy, thanks for entering the cam show

You're now* a participant active enough to play the game:

MAKE A READ ON EACH AND EVERY PLAYER

Players
1. Death
2. turbopuns3
3. Obelisk
4. Benjamin3740
5. Red13n
6. Hbthebattle
7. Scare
8. UltimaterializerX
9. Camarija
10. Lolo
11. Marth
12. HanOfTheNekos
13. TheSultanOfSlam
14. Crescent-Moon
15. Corrik7
16. Eaedward
17. Tange

Camarija posted...

htaeD posted...

Even after everyting you heard, Ben is town for what reason?

I felt it in my blood just after the game was randed, and just before the game started

I thought you wanted reads to be based on play, not gut feeling
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Red calls Ben out on this specifically about liking ultis claim. He expressed reservations early about Ulti claiming it was a flavour trap and how would he know and etc earlier. Now he likes it.

benjamin3740 posted...

I will comment now that I am very against lynching Ulti. I like the claim. I also am not seeing why the day is "about" Ulti and Red, or has to end in one of their lynches. Which I don't like from Corrik and HB

benjamin3740 posted...

red13n posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I will comment now that I am very against lynching Ulti. I like the claim. I also am not seeing why the day is "about" Ulti and Red, or has to end in one of their lynches. Which I don't like from Corrik and HB

wait you like the claim?

we pretty much safely assume ulti either fakeclaimed as town or is lying scum.

I like "the claim", but yeah it doesn't mean I believe every detail of it

Then he wants to Lynch HB specifically because he wants to vote Ulti basically.

benjamin3740 posted...

Also I really didn't get a chance to think very hard about Crescent, and I don't know what scum her looks like in the first place. This doesn't mean I got any town read between the vote and now. But I'd rather lynch other people

Unvote
Vote: HB

Only thing he has said at any point about hb is that hb wants to Lynch Ulti or red. That's literally it.
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For talking about pockets, Cam basically votes for whatever Ben says. Ben votes HB and Cam instantly votes him also. HB skyrockets up into the lead for the Lynch. (Tie)

Nanahara715 posted...

Votals @ T4 P96

Hb - 4 - Puns, (Han), Han, Ben, Cam
Sultan - 4 - (Cam), Scare, Marth, Death, Eaedward
Ulti - 2 - (Corrik), Red, (Marth), (Puns), (Eaedward), corrik
Marth - 2 - (Cam), (Han), Ulti, CM, (Obellisk), (Han), (corrik)
Red - 2 - (Ulti), Tange, Sultan
CM - 0 - (Ben), (Cam)
Puns - 0 - (Hb)
Han - 0 - (Puns)
Corrik - 0 - (Han), (Ulti)
Cam - 0 - (Hb), (Sultan), (Scare)
Death - 0 - (Cam)

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UltimaterializerX posted...

You guys did see IGCD call himself scum by accident last topic, right?

Yes

But I am staying on sultan
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Anyway I should say sultan has given me pause in our neighbor chat.

I questioned him to explain his reasoning behind why he initially guessed winter soldier and then later, Falcon, as my flavor.

He said originally when the game started he just googled something like who war machine was friends with and he saw pictures of winter soldier / falcon

I asked him if he could find those same pictures again and link them to me but he was unable to do so and blamed it on google working funny

Then he said wow actually the results seem to indicate falcon versus war machine, not that they're friends

And he said if he had to guess again now he would have guessed rocket because now all the pictures he can find are of rocket

Does this sound legit scummy or is it "too bad to be scummy"

?

1. Death - neutral, might be scum
2. turbopuns3 - if there's a scum in the neighbors, it's probably him and not sultan
3. Obelisk - town
4. Benjamin3740 - also probably scum due to his fixation
5. Red13n - hmmm
6. Hbthebattle - what do you think
7. Scare - neutral leaning scum, Han's good enough that he might have just been shot outright instead of him protecting someone and dying so I don't buy this argument
8. UltimaterializerX - I'm still trying to puzzle out him
9. Camarija - I still think you're town, but this recent behavior is seeming more and more like you're behavior when you got caught last game
10. IGCD - hasnt done enough to get a real read, called himself scum so
11. Marth - if he was scum, someone would have countered him by now, town probably
12. HanOfTheNekos - hmmmmm
13. TheSultanOfSlam - his play yesterday makes me think town
14. Crescent-Moon - neutral, not enough to go on especially today
15. Corrik7 - town
16. Eaedward - probably town
17. Tange - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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