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htaeD
05/25/19 4:39:05 AM
#351:


Sultans KILL ME ALREADY whining is not a good start for him!
And now I cant even comfortably say Puns is risking himself with his neighbor claim, when he can just say he is still Present day nebula if past Nebula flips. (unless a scumsultan is not even past nebula. In which case LOL)
....

(Honestly though, Thanos minions are even less of a presence in this movie, so maybe Gamora is scum too)
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htaeD
05/25/19 4:40:41 AM
#352:


Camarija posted...
htaeD posted...
I see what you are doing now. But if it annoys me, then I already know its not just scum who you got a rise out of.


Of course

The difference is that Mafia would want to use as much privileged information to prove me wrong once they're mad enough

Whereas Town would not be ABLE to do this

There is a difference

Of course, I do apologize for the unpleasantness, but there was a method to the madness


Thats.. half right.
But we know each other really well, and the scumteam probably is composed mostly of b8 vets who wouldnt care to lynch you no matter how much reads you give out.
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:10:27 AM
#353:


Obellisk posted...
When you return, you said you played a guessing game with Sultan but yielded no results. And you guys never claimed to each other prior to claiming live in game.

Can you share your guesses


When I read my role PM I looked up who nebula was and I immediately figured my neighbor was going to be past nebula

When sultan showed up to chat, I even said I assumed I knew his flavor, and asked him if he figured he knew what mine was as well

He didn't seem to have an immediate hunch but guessed winter soldier

I said well if that's what you think I take back what I said about knowing your flavor

Then about 10 minutes later he asked if I am Falcon

At that point (this was < 1 hour into game start) I was sketched out and stopped cooperating for a while

I never actually guessed his because at that point I didn't want to tell him I was nebula
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Obellisk
05/25/19 8:16:25 AM
#354:


turbopuns3 posted...
Obellisk posted...
When you return, you said you played a guessing game with Sultan but yielded no results. And you guys never claimed to each other prior to claiming live in game.

Can you share your guesses


When I read my role PM I looked up who nebula was and I immediately figured my neighbor was going to be past nebula

When sultan showed up to chat, I even said I assumed I knew his flavor, and asked him if he figured he knew what mine was as well

He didn't seem to have an immediate hunch but guessed winter soldier

I said well if that's what you think I take back what I said about knowing your flavor

Then about 10 minutes later he asked if I am Falcon

At that point (this was < 1 hour into game start) I was sketched out and stopped cooperating for a while

I never actually guessed his because at that point I didn't want to tell him I was nebula


And you sit here feeling confident thinking that he is town?
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:20:20 AM
#355:


Obellisk posted...
And you sit here feeling confident thinking that he is town?


?

Like I said this was all in the first hour of the game
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:20:30 AM
#356:


I presume Neighbors still get told right way who their neighbor is
Hmm
If sultan is past Nebula, he would have to assume Present Nebula is his town neighbor. And he could lie from there since he would know Warmachine and Nebula are a team in the movie.. But only for like 2 scenes. And on that logic, anyone could be neighbors

Thor and Rocket
Iron Man and Cap (not likely tho)
Hawkeye and Black Widow

As much as I know not to use flavormeta, It does make me feel like Past Nebula makes way more sense as a neighbor than Warmachine.
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:27:52 AM
#357:


Yes of course past nebula makes the most sense as the neighbor

This is related to why immediately when Ulti claimed thanos I was like "why is thanos town" because my role PM suggests I'm town for going against my father. Hence me asking Ulti to elaborate on *why* he is town

I don't know the flavor well enough to understand the nuance of, since present day nebula is town, does it make sense for present thanos to be miller and past nebula to be mafia?

One thing is for damn sure, past nebula isn't town lol
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:28:39 AM
#358:


But you would have seen Present in your flavor, right?
...
Did you see the movie? Just asking for context.
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:29:14 AM
#359:


allthough you already sorta stated you didnt I guess
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:29:50 AM
#360:


htaeD posted...
But you would have seen Present in your flavor, right?


Yes I've stated many times over I am present day nebula
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:32:23 AM
#361:


Cam when I told you everything you've said is wrong, I was talking about your style of meta, your reasoning for how you shoukd be protected, your insistence that you are "top town", etc.

Do not make the mistake of thinking I'm so unbelievably dim witted as to confess night actions as scum. You don't know me pal.
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:33:54 AM
#362:


I know that, puns.
But I wonder if it occurred to you that there were two Thanoses as well.
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:36:11 AM
#363:


htaeD posted...
I know that, puns.
But I wonder if it occurred to you that there were two Thanoses as well.


Well I mean yes I've considered the possibility of Ulti being past thanos and has present thanos on a safe list
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:40:41 AM
#364:


As opposed to Ulti actually being present Thanos?
(Granted it is Ulti we are talking about)
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:45:03 AM
#365:


Ok, anyone want to give me summaries? Red, Han and Tang are dead, correct? Also I have the worst possible role from the perspective of anyone that is not me while I have this role, because of this i am going to be playing my reads close to my chest.
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htaeD
05/25/19 8:45:52 AM
#366:


why would you say that?
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Crescent-Moon
05/25/19 8:46:08 AM
#367:


I still think Cam's arrogance is coming from a town mindset, he's just annoying in general. I just don't think Puns said anything all that meaningful to him, either.

What isn't being taken into account is that Puns was already annoyed at Cam yesterday, and I think we had a recipe for Puns being reactive when Cam turned the ego up another notch. I've been exactly where Puns was earlier as both alignments. I don't think it says much about him. Statistics and charts miss something vital.. All those little intangibles that go through and around us.

Camarija posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
If my miss lynch really helps town then by all means sacrifice me


How many votes did I have just before this?

How many votes do you have now?

Cam had 4 and Sultan had 3 at this point in time, just for the record.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Camarija posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Camarija posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Cam why would he protect tou over watcher?


Are you certain he didn't protect me?


Answer the question why would he protect you?


I feel like you want your question to be a 'gotcha' type thing, but there's nothing to get

I am Town Leader

I get protection


But didnt we only find this out today? How would have han known that?

Sultan appears to be taking this Cam post seriously when he calls himself "Town Leader", but.. Doesn't question it at all. As far as I know, "Leader" isn't any actual role. He makes no inquiry into it and just seems to accept it.
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turbopuns3
05/25/19 8:46:17 AM
#368:


htaeD posted...
As opposed to Ulti actually being present Thanos?
(Granted it is Ulti we are talking about)


between past/present thanos, who is more likely mafia (assuming the other is Miller)

I just assumed because present nebula = town that it made more sense for present thanos to be potentially good but I guess that could be wrong
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:46:56 AM
#369:


htaeD posted...
why would you say that?

Say what?
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:47:42 AM
#370:


Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:49:47 AM
#371:


Like I mean lynch them with fire, take the ashes and mix them with concrete, use the concrete to build a children's hospital, then blow the hospital up.
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Obellisk
05/25/19 8:54:05 AM
#372:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.


You should read everything.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:55:32 AM
#373:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.


You should read everything.

Yea I know. But I won't be able to do so until tonight, so until then I am playing in real time with the limited reading I have done.
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Corrik7
05/25/19 8:55:32 AM
#374:


IgCD you need to claim. You don't get an entire inactive day 1 and replace in and not claim.
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Crescent-Moon
05/25/19 8:56:10 AM
#375:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like I mean lynch them with fire, take the ashes and mix them with concrete, use the concrete to build a children's hospital, then blow the hospital up.

Why?
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:56:58 AM
#376:


Corrik7 posted...
IgCD you need to claim. You don't get an entire inactive day 1 and replace in and not claim.

Nope.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 8:58:10 AM
#377:


Crescent-Moon posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like I mean lynch them with fire, take the ashes and mix them with concrete, use the concrete to build a children's hospital, then blow the hospital up.

Why?

Based on the deaths and things I have picked up in my limited reads.
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Corrik7
05/25/19 8:59:08 AM
#378:


##Unvote:
##vote: IGCD


See ya Day 3. My vote isn't moving until the person who afked all day 1 and got replaced claims.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 9:00:51 AM
#379:


Corrik7 posted...
##Unvote:
##vote: IGCD


See ya Day 3. My vote isn't moving until the person who afked all day 1 and got replaced claims.

Cool, just remember that you are choosing your own fate.
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Obellisk
05/25/19 9:01:01 AM
#380:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IgCD you need to claim. You don't get an entire inactive day 1 and replace in and not claim.

Nope.


Commuter (odd night)
Bodyguard
Watcher
Neighbors
Miller
Cop (only in theory based on Miller)

And you think you are super special here?
Talk to me about the claims that are likely fake then.
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 9:01:19 AM
#381:


Altight got some sleep and i feel much better sorry about my late night nonsense i should have known better then try and mafia when i was exhausted.

Alright so here are a few things that i didnt like about the tange vote and i am one of them.

1. I was being somewhat selfish when i jumped into the tange vote. I wanted to tie to vote up and force it to be a no lynch day would have liked that then anyone really having to get lynched when i wasnt 100% with the tange lynch you can see i was somewhat regretting it but i was like who knows he probably is scum with that move so i didnt move and i feel really stupid i should have stuck with my gut and left when other people jumped on to it.

Alright lwts look who jumped on to that train shall we

Oh look its cam and HB so 1 of the 2 has to be scum right? And like i said before it makes me think its gotta be cam wtf is jumping 6 times end of day like that with no reason? And 9 times overall that doesnt look like town to me why would a town jump 9 TIMES if youre as good as you say you are at being top town top town would have made no excessive jumps like that it was ridiculous.

Okay but look at hb. I honestly really didnt like his play yesterday either. His content was very lacking to me and i feel like he was like hmm a train that sorta makes sense let me jump onto it i also hate his claim mostly for horrible meta reason of in what world would your main character captain america be vanilla?! That doesnt make sense.

Looking at cam honestly i was leaning town a bit yesterday but looking at his end of day and jumping 9 times is what makes me question him.

But actually this will probably surprise you but im actually looking more at HB. SO! For now im going to jump off Cam and im going to go back and read up more on HB to solidify my feelings on him

##Unvote:Cam
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htaeD
05/25/19 9:11:45 AM
#382:


turbopuns3 posted...
htaeD posted...
As opposed to Ulti actually being present Thanos?
(Granted it is Ulti we are talking about)


between past/present thanos, who is more likely mafia (assuming the other is Miller)

I just assumed because present nebula = town that it made more sense for present thanos to be potentially good but I guess that could be wrong


Past Thanos is the active bad guy for the 2nd half of the movie
Present Thanos just dies like 10 minutes in and is generally nicer anyway.
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htaeD
05/25/19 9:13:21 AM
#383:


Sultan, in what universe does a town HB not vote Tange there?

Corrik, do we even know that Lolo deliberately didnt post?
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 9:16:43 AM
#384:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IgCD you need to claim. You don't get an entire inactive day 1 and replace in and not claim.

Nope.


Commuter (odd night)
Bodyguard
Watcher
Neighbors
Miller
Cop (only in theory based on Miller)

And you think you are super special here?
Talk to me about the claims that are likely fake then.

I don't know what you mean
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htaeD
05/25/19 9:28:28 AM
#387:


I agree with that at least.
Sultan on the other hand I still dont fully trust.
But not to the point where I think we should lynch him today
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 9:29:00 AM
#388:


UltimaterializerX posted...
IGCD, Corrik is right here. You replaced an inactive. Claim.

Nope.
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htaeD
05/25/19 9:29:03 AM
#389:


I also disagree with the replacers always claim mentality.
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 9:35:01 AM
#390:


htaeD posted...
Sultan, in what universe does a town HB not vote Tange there?

Corrik, do we even know that Lolo deliberately didnt post?


In a world he scum
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htaeD
05/25/19 9:36:31 AM
#391:


By that logic he is not scum then, Sultan
since he DID vote Tange
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Crescent-Moon
05/25/19 9:37:42 AM
#392:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Sultan appears to be taking this Cam post seriously when he calls himself "Town Leader", but.. Doesn't question it at all. As far as I know, "Leader" isn't any actual role. He makes no inquiry into it and just seems to accept it.

I would like a response to this from Sultan.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like I mean lynch them with fire, take the ashes and mix them with concrete, use the concrete to build a children's hospital, then blow the hospital up.

Why?

Based on the deaths and things I have picked up in my limited reads.

What have you picked up on Puns?
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 9:39:27 AM
#393:


Moon beacuse their is no reason that han would protect cam. Cam is full of shit
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Crescent-Moon
05/25/19 9:58:31 AM
#394:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Moon beacuse their is no reason that han would protect cam. Cam is full of shit

It's more that it seemed like you treating it as an actual claim
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 9:59:25 AM
#395:


Crescent-Moon posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Moon beacuse their is no reason that han would protect cam. Cam is full of shit

It's more that it seemed like you treating it as an actual claim


Didnt he claim a scanner role?
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 9:59:45 AM
#396:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
Sultan appears to be taking this Cam post seriously when he calls himself "Town Leader", but.. Doesn't question it at all. As far as I know, "Leader" isn't any actual role. He makes no inquiry into it and just seems to accept it.

I would like a response to this from Sultan.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Based off of what I have read. I am ok with lynching Ulti and Puns.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like I mean lynch them with fire, take the ashes and mix them with concrete, use the concrete to build a children's hospital, then blow the hospital up.

Why?

Based on the deaths and things I have picked up in my limited reads.

What have you picked up on Puns?

I can't recall exactly what it was at the moment, but I have not in the slightest liked puns as town since the game started.
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 10:08:54 AM
#397:


Hmm i wonder if i should do a reread on Puns. I could most definitely have beem giving him more credit then needed because he is my neighbor but idk
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Crescent-Moon
05/25/19 10:08:55 AM
#398:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Moon beacuse their is no reason that han would protect cam. Cam is full of shit

It's more that it seemed like you treating it as an actual claim


Didnt he claim a scanner role?

Um.. Cam hasn't claimed anything, Corrik just keeps insisting he's a scanner.
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 10:10:44 AM
#399:


Crescent-Moon posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Moon beacuse their is no reason that han would protect cam. Cam is full of shit

It's more that it seemed like you treating it as an actual claim


Didnt he claim a scanner role?

Um.. Cam hasn't claimed anything, Corrik just keeps insisting he's a scanner.


Ohh then whu are we trusting corrik and his crazyness again?
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/25/19 10:12:41 AM
#400:


Also see these are reason why playing mafiansleepy as ever isnt a good idea im going to go reread and hopefully come back looking less stupid see you guys
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