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Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:04:38 AM #1:	1) Wow, she's really attractive. But is she even 18? 2) I went to a bar so I know that they're all over 18, but is she too drunk to consent? 3) Should I go up to this woman and ask her out or will she think I'm a creep for hitting on her? [From listening to women complain about men bothering them or being 'creepy' when they talk to them in public] --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922125489] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>1) Wow, she's really attractive. But is she even 18? 2) I went to a bar so I know that they're all over 18, but is she too drunk to consent? 3) Should I go up to this woman and ask her out or will she think I'm a creep for hitting on her? [From listening to women complain about men bothering them or being 'creepy' when they talk to them in public]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 05/20/19 2:08:24 AM #2:	Bad_Mojo posted... 1) Wow, she's really attractive. But is she even 18? 2) I went to a bar so I know that they're all over 18, but is she too drunk to consent? 3) Should I go up to this woman and ask her out or will she think I'm a creep for hitting on her? [From listening to women complain about men bothering them or being 'creepy' when they talk to them in public] Have you tried just flirting with the girl at the bar and maybe not just go straight for her pants? And maybe some other time if she actually did like you'd she'd be down for a date where you're both more sober and presentable where you could end up having sex? Instead of just going up to a random woman and hitting on her just talk to her normally and see if a connection is formed just from that. Maybe only pick women you see consistently and they've taken notice of you. Talk to them. Get to know them and then maybe some other time after you've talked a few occasions ask for her number. You don't live in a world where it's impossible to try and meet women in a respectable way. Is it possible you could get called a creep even when not being creepy? Yes. Just like women get called sluts for NOT sleeping with a dude or getting called a slut by some guy who literally just drove past her. Mean names are going to be thrown at you. Most women don't give up when this happens to them. Why should you give up out of fear of the C word. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:922125592] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote>1) Wow, she's really attractive. But is she even 18? 2) I went to a bar so I know that they're all over 18, but is she too drunk to consent? 3) Should I go up to this woman and ask her out or will she think I'm a creep for hitting on her? [From listening to women complain about men bothering them or being 'creepy' when they talk to them in public]</quote> Have you tried just flirting with the girl at the bar and maybe not just go straight for her pants? And maybe some other time if she actually did like you'd she'd be down for a date where you're both more sober and presentable where you could end up having sex? Instead of just going up to a random woman and hitting on her just talk to her normally and see if a connection is formed just from that. Maybe only pick women you see consistently and they've taken notice of you. Talk to them. Get to know them and then maybe some other time after you've talked a few occasions ask for her number. You don't live in a world where it's impossible to try and meet women in a respectable way. Is it possible you could get called a creep even when not being creepy? Yes. Just like women get called sluts for NOT sleeping with a dude or getting called a slut by some guy who literally just drove past her. Mean names are going to be thrown at you. Most women don't give up when this happens to them. Why should you give up out of fear of the C word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rigama 05/20/19 2:09:50 AM #3:	3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends? <cite>Rigama posted [p:922125614] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 05/20/19 2:12:46 AM #4:	Dude sometimes you get rejected and called names. Sometimes you succeed. Sounds like you're more scared of being rejected than the benefits of succeeding, which is what drives men to say they stop trying or going MGTOW. All that shit is just a coping mechanism. Just try. You're painting a picture in your head where you've already lost before you've played the game. --- https://i.imgtc.com/faZjEQp.jpg <cite>WaterLink posted [p:922125667] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>Dude sometimes you get rejected and called names. Sometimes you succeed. Sounds like you're more scared of being rejected than the benefits of succeeding, which is what drives men to say they stop trying or going MGTOW. All that shit is just a coping mechanism. Just try. You're painting a picture in your head where you've already lost before you've played the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 05/20/19 2:13:22 AM #5:	Rigama posted... 3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends? That's because the confident man also has to be hot. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:922125684] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rigama posted...</cite> <quote>3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends?</quote> That's because the confident man also has to be hot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:16:16 AM #6:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... Have you tried just flirting with the girl at the bar and maybe not just go straight for her pants? And maybe some other time if she actually did like you'd she'd be down for a date where you're both more sober and presentable where you could end up having sex? Yes I never go for the pants because of this, but then they just move on to the next guy. I once dated a girl who was a virgin and told me she wanted to take things slowly, so I took things slowly, but then she dumped me because she thought I didn't like her because I wans't trying to have sex with her I have had a lot of times had a women trying to move things to a bed, but she has been drinking, so I put a stop to it. They shame me (are you gay?) or just move on to the next guy Cosmic_Diabetic posted... Instead of just going up to a random woman and hitting on her just talk to her normally and see if a connection is formed just from that. Maybe only pick women you see consistently and they've taken notice of you. Talk to them. Get to know them and then maybe some other time after you've talked a few occasions ask for her number. This is what I'm talking about. I feel creepy just going up to people. Even normal conversations I never just hit on a woman. I always try and find a reason to talk to women (or anyone) and not just ask for a date or a number. That's easy, but that's where I end it because I don't want to sound creepy asking them out once I get that out of the way --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922125756] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote> Have you tried just flirting with the girl at the bar and maybe not just go straight for her pants? And maybe some other time if she actually did like you'd she'd be down for a date where you're both more sober and presentable where you could end up having sex?</quote> Yes I never go for the pants because of this, but then they just move on to the next guy. I once dated a girl who was a virgin and told me she wanted to take things slowly, so I took things slowly, but then she dumped me because she thought I didn't like her because I wans't trying to have sex with her I have had a lot of times had a women trying to move things to a bed, but she has been drinking, so I put a stop to it. They shame me (are you gay?) or just move on to the next guy <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>Instead of just going up to a random woman and hitting on her just talk to her normally and see if a connection is formed just from that. Maybe only pick women you see consistently and they've taken notice of you. Talk to them. Get to know them and then maybe some other time after you've talked a few occasions ask for her number.</quote> This is what I'm talking about. I feel creepy just going up to people. Even normal conversations I never just hit on a woman. I always try and find a reason to talk to women (or anyone) and not just ask for a date or a number. That's easy, but that's where I end it because I don't want to sound creepy asking them out once I get that out of the way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/20/19 2:17:10 AM #7:	Read the room, vibe and body language. A bar has different expectations than the street. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922125774] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>Read the room, vibe and body language. A bar has different expectations than the street.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/20/19 2:17:44 AM #8:	My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:922125788] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:20:36 AM #9:	DarthAragorn posted... My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone I don't have anything to talk about either since I'm so depressed I don't have the drive to go out and do anything fun. Why waste money having fun alone when you know at the end of it, you're just going to feel sad and have less money --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922125855] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone</quote> I don't have anything to talk about either since I'm so depressed I don't have the drive to go out and do anything fun. Why waste money having fun alone when you know at the end of it, you're just going to feel sad and have less money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:22:11 AM #10:	Darmik posted... Read the room, vibe and body language. A bar has different expectations than the street. Want to teach me how to do that? It's not easy to learn --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922125889] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Read the room, vibe and body language. A bar has different expectations than the street.</quote> Want to teach me how to do that? It's not easy to learn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 05/20/19 2:23:03 AM #11:	Bad_Mojo posted... Why waste money having fun alone when you know at the end of it, you're just going to feel sad and have less money Because you had fun? It's a process. You're expecting instant results and no rejection. That's a fantasy world. --- https://i.imgtc.com/faZjEQp.jpg <cite>WaterLink posted [p:922125905] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote>Why waste money having fun alone when you know at the end of it, you're just going to feel sad and have less money</quote> Because you had fun? It's a process. You're expecting instant results and no rejection. That's a fantasy world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 05/20/19 2:23:32 AM #12:	1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out. 2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. 3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you. --- https://i.imgtc.com/LnuOHap.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/zaF0ojO.jpg https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:922125913] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out. 2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. 3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:24:55 AM #13:	WaterLink posted... Because you had fun? It's a process. You're expecting instant results and no rejection. That's a fantasy world. But it's only fun in the moment, just like jerking off. I don't look back at most of my "fun" times as fun because I was alone, I look back with tears in my eyes and feel horrible --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922125938] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterLink posted...</cite> <quote>Because you had fun? It's a process. You're expecting instant results and no rejection. That's a fantasy world.</quote> But it's only fun in the moment, just like jerking off. I don't look back at most of my "fun" times as fun because I was alone, I look back with tears in my eyes and feel horrible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 05/20/19 2:28:58 AM #14:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Have some solid questions, stories I think this is key. I see some people complain about having a boring life and no stories to tell. Well change that. Make some stories happen. Also my social life expanded immensely when I joined clubs. Join a bowling league. Join a pool league. Become a regular member of something. You'll become familiar with some people, go do sometime with them. Don't have the intention to meet girls at first, just focus on having fun. Soon when people see you having fun people will want to be involved with you having fun. And that leads to meeting girls. It's at least one strategy. And a more fulfilling one imo --- https://i.imgtc.com/faZjEQp.jpg <cite>WaterLink posted [p:922126017] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Have some solid questions, stories</quote> I think this is key. I see some people complain about having a boring life and no stories to tell. Well change that. Make some stories happen. Also my social life expanded immensely when I joined clubs. Join a bowling league. Join a pool league. Become a regular member of something. You'll become familiar with some people, go do sometime with them. Don't have the intention to meet girls at first, just focus on having fun. Soon when people see you having fun people will want to be involved with you having fun. And that leads to meeting girls. It's at least one strategy. And a more fulfilling one imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 05/20/19 2:31:06 AM #15:	WaterLink posted... Also my social life expanded immensely when I joined clubs. Join a bowling league. Join a pool league. Become a regular member of something. You'll become familiar with some people, go do sometime with them. Don't have the intention to meet girls at first, just focus on having fun. Soon when people see you having fun people will want to be involved with you having fun. And that leads to meeting girls. WaterLink posted... this is key. --- https://i.imgtc.com/LnuOHap.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/zaF0ojO.jpg https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:922126055] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterLink posted...</cite> <quote>Also my social life expanded immensely when I joined clubs. Join a bowling league. Join a pool league. Become a regular member of something. You'll become familiar with some people, go do sometime with them. Don't have the intention to meet girls at first, just focus on having fun. Soon when people see you having fun people will want to be involved with you having fun. And that leads to meeting girls. </quote> <cite>WaterLink posted...</cite> <quote>this is key.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:31:08 AM #16:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... 1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out. I'm 36, and I'm talking about down town Portland where a lot of college girls hang out gatorsPENSbucs posted... 2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. Let alone a girl that's just having fun at a bar. And again, I get shamed by them if I don't want to have sex because they drank too much gatorsPENSbucs posted... 3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you. The only want for me to do any of that is to lie. I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922126056] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out.</quote> I'm 36, and I'm talking about down town Portland where a lot of college girls hang out <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. </quote> One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. Let alone a girl that's just having fun at a bar. And again, I get shamed by them if I don't want to have sex because they drank too much <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you.</quote> The only want for me to do any of that is to lie. I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 05/20/19 2:33:24 AM #17:	it sounds like lame excuses to avoid working on the real challenges of meeting women. it's hard, but that isn't the hard part. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:922126097] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>it sounds like lame excuses to avoid working on the real challenges of meeting women. it's hard, but that isn't the hard part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 05/20/19 2:35:19 AM #18:	Bad_Mojo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... 1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out. I'm 36, and I'm talking about down town Portland where a lot of college girls hang out gatorsPENSbucs posted... 2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. Let alone a girl that's just having fun at a bar. And again, I get shamed by them if I don't want to have sex because they drank too much gatorsPENSbucs posted... 3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you. The only want for me to do any of that is to lie. I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome You hate your life and are boring but the only way to happiness is romantic connection because of your self-hatred of your boring self? Lad, lad, lad... --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:922126138] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>1. Um, what? How old are you and where are you hanging out.</quote> I'm 36, and I'm talking about down town Portland where a lot of college girls hang out <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>2. Don't expect sex and if it gets to that point in the night then just go with how it feels. And you should be able to tell if she's too drunk. If you can't, well that's for another time. </quote> One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. Let alone a girl that's just having fun at a bar. And again, I get shamed by them if I don't want to have sex because they drank too much <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>3. Nobody knows you better than you. If you're smooth, throw a cheesy but good cheesy pick up line to get them laughing. If you throw a joke first, awesome as well. Laughter is key. If neither of those are you, then you just have to learn how to talk to a girl and keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Have some solid questions, stories, answers, shit like that stored in your head. Get them laughing and keep a conversation, the panties will throw themselves at you.</quote> The only want for me to do any of that is to lie. I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome</quote> You hate your life and are boring but the only way to happiness is romantic connection because of your self-hatred of your boring self? Lad, lad, lad...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/20/19 2:37:21 AM #19:	Bad_Mojo posted... One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. Where on Earth do you live? Bad_Mojo posted... I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome Why would a woman (or anyone) be interested in a man who does absolutely nothing? How on earth would that appeal to anyone? A romantic connection is combining two lives. In order for this to actually be a healthy relationship both lives need to be in a good and healthy place. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922126170] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote>One drink = too much when it comes to rape laws. </quote> Where on Earth do you live? <cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote> I don't have any stories because I don't do anything. I don't do anything because I hate going out by myself. I have to lie, but I don't want to lie, but the only way to become happy is to have those romantic connections which I can't have if I'm being honest. Not so much lie to them, but lie to myself. Think myself as someone awesome</quote> Why would a woman (or anyone) be interested in a man who does absolutely nothing? How on earth would that appeal to anyone? A romantic connection is combining two lives. In order for this to actually be a healthy relationship both lives need to be in a good and healthy place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orlando_Jordan 05/20/19 2:38:26 AM #20:	Rigama posted... 3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends? Women don't want to be approached by an overweight man wearing a fedora who lives with his parents. What's hard to understand about that? --- "All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more."-Morpheus <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:922126186] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rigama posted...</cite> <quote>3 is the one I hate the most Women: I want a confident man, someone who isn't afraid to talk to me first. Also women: Ugh I hate going out and be approached by men, don't you see I just want to have fun with my friends?</quote> Women don't want to be approached by an overweight man wearing a fedora who lives with his parents. What's hard to understand about that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:45:34 AM #21:	Darmik posted... Why would a woman (or anyone) be interested in a man who does absolutely nothing? I used to do a lot of things. I used to travel, I used to be apart of clubs, I used to go to movies, I used to hike, I used to go to the beach a lot. But I did it all alone. For many, many years. I don't like doing any of that alone anymore. It makes me want to [ToS] Darmik posted... Where on Earth do you live? Portland I'm not saying that is true at all (one drink is too much), but it's a fear I have. An irrational fear, but a fear I can't overcome. "Does she only like me because she's been drinking? Of course, no one has ever liked me sober before, so it must be because she's drinking. I can't do anything with her." This is what is going on in my head --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922126324] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Why would a woman (or anyone) be interested in a man who does absolutely nothing?</quote> I used to do a lot of things. I used to travel, I used to be apart of clubs, I used to go to movies, I used to hike, I used to go to the beach a lot. But I did it all alone. For many, many years. I don't like doing any of that alone anymore. It makes me want to [ToS] <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Where on Earth do you live?</quote> Portland I'm not saying that is true at all (one drink is too much), but it's a fear I have. An irrational fear, but a fear I can't overcome. "Does she only like me because she's been drinking? Of course, no one has ever liked me sober before, so it must be because she's drinking. I can't do anything with her." This is what is going on in my head</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 05/20/19 2:51:44 AM #22:	Bad_Mojo posted... I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. Welcome to the club, buddy. Shit ton of people have been there and are there. I saw some shit the other day that said something about the key to happiness is making someone else's day. Try that shit. Just be friendly, be nice, have fun with people. I dramatically held myself back on the street the other day when I was crossing because I saw a car turning, I had plenty of time, and had a yikes type of face and the lady driving by was cracking up. Bam, made someone happy, I became happy, have myself a story, a weird ass kind of maybe interaction, and then can build from that. Good thing you can do, if you're rolling solo or maybe with just like one friend, sit at the bar and allow yourself to be involved with something. If you're at a legit bar, and you're sitting at the bar, within an hour you should be talking with quite a few people and having a hell of a time. But you have to allow yourself to let it happen, wait for something or just be alert and let someone involve you. Always worked for me. --- https://i.imgtc.com/LnuOHap.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/zaF0ojO.jpg https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:922126446] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote>I fucking hate my life so I have to pretend to be happy. </quote> Welcome to the club, buddy. Shit ton of people have been there and are there. I saw some shit the other day that said something about the key to happiness is making someone else's day. Try that shit. Just be friendly, be nice, have fun with people. I dramatically held myself back on the street the other day when I was crossing because I saw a car turning, I had plenty of time, and had a yikes type of face and the lady driving by was cracking up. Bam, made someone happy, I became happy, have myself a story, a weird ass kind of maybe interaction, and then can build from that. Good thing you can do, if you're rolling solo or maybe with just like one friend, sit at the bar and allow yourself to be involved with something. If you're at a legit bar, and you're sitting at the bar, within an hour you should be talking with quite a few people and having a hell of a time. But you have to allow yourself to let it happen, wait for something or just be alert and let someone involve you. Always worked for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:55:14 AM #23:	I do nice things for people all the time. And no, I'm not a "nice guy," I don't expect sex for doing things or being friendly. Every single person I work with loves me to death. I work with kids, and they all love me as well because I'm a great guy and I'm friendly and nice to them Being at work is the only time I'm happy during the day, so I guess you're right. Making other people happy does make me really happy --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922126525] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>I do nice things for people all the time. And no, I'm not a "nice guy," I don't expect sex for doing things or being friendly. Every single person I work with loves me to death. I work with kids, and they all love me as well because I'm a great guy and I'm friendly and nice to them Being at work is the only time I'm happy during the day, so I guess you're right. Making other people happy does make me really happy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 2:59:37 AM #24:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Good thing you can do, if you're rolling solo or maybe with just like one friend, sit at the bar and allow yourself to be involved with something. If you're at a legit bar, and you're sitting at the bar, within an hour you should be talking with quite a few people and having a hell of a time. But you have to allow yourself to let it happen, wait for something or just be alert and let someone involve you. Always worked for me. Ah, the talking issue I have a very weak voice and I have some sort of metal condition that makes it hard for me to hear people when a lot of noise is going on. I have a really hard time talking to anyone in pretty much any location because of it. They can't hear me because my voice is soft (years and years of being alone and not talking) and I can't hear them if a lot of things is going one like other people talking or music --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922126601] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Good thing you can do, if you're rolling solo or maybe with just like one friend, sit at the bar and allow yourself to be involved with something. If you're at a legit bar, and you're sitting at the bar, within an hour you should be talking with quite a few people and having a hell of a time. But you have to allow yourself to let it happen, wait for something or just be alert and let someone involve you. Always worked for me.</quote> Ah, the talking issue I have a very weak voice and I have some sort of metal condition that makes it hard for me to hear people when a lot of noise is going on. I have a really hard time talking to anyone in pretty much any location because of it. They can't hear me because my voice is soft (years and years of being alone and not talking) and I can't hear them if a lot of things is going one like other people talking or music</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 05/20/19 3:01:28 AM #25:	The point is if you're doing nothing, involved in nothing, how can you expect to meet anyone? You have to be willing to put yourself out there. And sometimes you're going to make an ass of yourself. Sometimes you'll pull it off and make a meaningful connection. Everybody plays the fool sometimes, you cant let that prevent you from enjoying life man. Another thing is you're too concerned with meeting girls specifically. You feel shitty because you can't get a girl and because of that you give up on everything else life has to offer (making this assumption based on your posts thus far). And the funny thing is, girls are not going to want to be with you if you're negative all the time. Take what I said in my last post to heart. Go be involved with something. I joined a pool, bowling, and chess league. It was VERY uncomfortable when I walked into them the very first time. I didn't know anybody, I wasn't really that good at any of those activities. So I thought I would get my ass kicked and then I would be the new guy everyone picked on. And it ended up not being like that at all. I had people even on opposing teams help me get better at those activities, I became good friends with my teammates I was assigned, and now they're all normal activities to me and the people there I'm good friends with, and now I even have girls texting me and considering them good friends. It can happen. You just have to learn how to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, as much of a paradox as that may seem. --- https://i.imgtc.com/faZjEQp.jpg <cite>WaterLink posted [p:922126635] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>The point is if you're doing nothing, involved in nothing, how can you expect to meet anyone? You have to be willing to put yourself out there. And sometimes you're going to make an ass of yourself. Sometimes you'll pull it off and make a meaningful connection. Everybody plays the fool sometimes, you cant let that prevent you from enjoying life man. Another thing is you're too concerned with meeting girls specifically. You feel shitty because you can't get a girl and because of that you give up on everything else life has to offer (making this assumption based on your posts thus far). And the funny thing is, girls are not going to want to be with you if you're negative all the time. Take what I said in my last post to heart. Go be involved with something. I joined a pool, bowling, and chess league. It was VERY uncomfortable when I walked into them the very first time. I didn't know anybody, I wasn't really that good at any of those activities. So I thought I would get my ass kicked and then I would be the new guy everyone picked on. And it ended up not being like that at all. I had people even on opposing teams help me get better at those activities, I became good friends with my teammates I was assigned, and now they're all normal activities to me and the people there I'm good friends with, and now I even have girls texting me and considering them good friends. It can happen. You just have to learn how to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, as much of a paradox as that may seem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/20/19 3:02:53 AM #26:	Making other people happy is nice and all but it kinda sucks when it feels like nobody cares to do the same for you --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:922126658] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>Making other people happy is nice and all but it kinda sucks when it feels like nobody cares to do the same for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/20/19 3:09:46 AM #27:	@WaterLink It's only recently I don't do anything. I've been doing a load of shit for 35 years And no, I don't feel like shit because I can't get a girl. I feel like shit because I don't have any friends at all. And since I've been alone for so long, I find it hard to be around people. How to talk to people. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922126770] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote>@WaterLink It's only recently I don't do anything. I've been doing a load of shit for 35 years And no, I don't feel like shit because I can't get a girl. I feel like shit because I don't have any friends at all. And since I've been alone for so long, I find it hard to be around people. How to talk to people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blade-wolf 05/20/19 3:11:17 AM #28:	DarthAragorn posted... My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone Start reading the newspaper --- hustler <cite>Blade-wolf posted [p:922126801] in The issues... [t:77727410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>My issue is having nothing to talk about so I've just given up at this point and am going to die alone</quote> Start reading the newspaper</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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