Poll of the Day > I'm playing Fallout 4 on survivor mode. spoilers

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InfestedAdam
05/22/19 12:57:50 AM
#51:


Dunno how this conversation devolved into who is better at a single player video game but think I'm gonna start over with a SPECIAL of 1 Strength, 4 Perception, 1 Endurance, 6 Charisma, 6 Intelligence, 5 Agility, and 5 Luck. Not being able to pick any locks at advance or above was rather frustrating and even more so when I realized I'll need to spend four attribute points with my original 1, 1, 1, 10, 10, 4, 1 setup.

Having only 16 settlers before equipment buffs is still a reasonable amount to handle the various shops and farming. Now it'll just be a matter of how will I level up quickly in the beginning without abusing the crafting approach and how to copy my previous physical appearances.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 8:40:43 AM
#52:


I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/19 8:41:47 AM
#53:


SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 8:42:24 AM
#54:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/19 8:43:04 AM
#55:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

No.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 8:46:22 AM
#56:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

No.


Yup, going on and on about your pointless advice sure isn't caring.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/19 9:37:57 AM
#57:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

No.


Yup, going on and on about your pointless advice sure isn't caring.

Sure.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 10:11:26 AM
#58:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

No.


Yup, going on and on about your pointless advice sure isn't caring.

Sure.


Typical. You don't understand caring like you don't understand birth control pills.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 10:14:36 AM
#59:


@InfestedAdam posted...
SPECIAL of 1 Strength


You're going to hate you're how little you can carry.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/19 10:18:08 AM
#60:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

No.


Yup, going on and on about your pointless advice sure isn't caring.

Sure.


Typical. You don't understand caring like you don't understand birth control pills.

Okay.
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DrCidd
05/22/19 11:08:42 AM
#61:


Lack of fast travel makes survival painful and boring. New Vegas did it right.
You can die of thirst, hunger or sleep deprivation by fast traveling in NV, in 4 you simply can't fast travel.

It's dumb, and the distances you're expected to cover for certain quests makes it a chore to play. Not to mention sleeping to save your game.
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Bulbasaur
05/22/19 11:29:03 AM
#62:


tbh i don't think I've ever been molotov spammed at corvega either
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/19 11:33:41 AM
#63:


DrCidd posted...
It's dumb, and the distances you're expected to cover for certain quests makes it a chore to play. Not to mention sleeping to save your game.

You have to play differently.

If you were actually doing the story quests you wouldn't run from point to point. You'd move when necessary, plan stopping points, stock up cautiously and do what's near, not what's preferred.
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InfestedAdam
05/22/19 11:45:52 AM
#64:


SunWuKung420 posted...
@InfestedAdam posted...
SPECIAL of 1 Strength

You're going to hate you're how little you can carry.

It definitely was a nuisance with my current character. I eventually caved-in and installed a settler beacon mod to come pick-up junk and items I leave inside containers I find. I don't think even a Strength of 10+ would make a difference for me though. I have this mentality that I must clean out a place of all lootables so regardless will find myself making multiple trips to/from the places I explore. The extra 100+ carrying capacity will only reduce my trips by a few I'd imagine so I just went with the mod.
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WastelandCowboy
05/22/19 11:58:38 AM
#65:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
DrCidd posted...
It's dumb, and the distances you're expected to cover for certain quests makes it a chore to play. Not to mention sleeping to save your game.

You have to play differently.

If you were actually doing the story quests you wouldn't run from point to point. You'd move when necessary, plan stopping points, stock up cautiously and do what's near, not what's preferred.

This, its more realistic. Youre not going to travel across the map to deliver a non-urgent item when you have other more pressing things to do. Priorities.
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Aculo
05/22/19 5:23:27 PM
#66:


InfestedAdam posted...
Dunno how this conversation devolved into who is better at (insert literally anything)...

welcome to literally every sunny thread, ok?
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Sarcasthma
05/22/19 5:42:57 PM
#67:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

And you cared enough to mark post #48.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 5:48:42 PM
#68:


Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I was just messing with that dude because he was so fixated on that pointless advice.

Nobody cares.


Sarcasthma did, intensely.

And you cared enough to mark post #48.


What now?
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Sarcasthma
05/22/19 6:11:40 PM
#69:


Oh, playing the ICOYAR card, I see.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 8:26:00 PM
#70:


I wrapped Sanctuary in metal walls. There's only 1 way in and once inside it's a death trap.
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InfestedAdam
05/22/19 8:59:22 PM
#71:


SunWuKung420 posted...
I wrapped Sanctuary in metal walls. There's only 1 way in and once inside it's a death trap.

Kudos to you for doing that without mods. I had to use a "place anywhere" mod as it was beyond frustrating when some little doohickey prevents you from placing an object down and/or you get floating objects.

Still, is it a guaranteed raiders can't spawn inside? I'm not 100% sure but thought it depends on the settlement. I think for Sanctuary they approach from the vault, bridge, and somewhere to the east. What happens when they meet your wall? Do they actually go around to the entrance?
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 9:20:44 PM
#72:


InfestedAdam posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I wrapped Sanctuary in metal walls. There's only 1 way in and once inside it's a death trap.

Kudos to you for doing that without mods. I had to use a "place anywhere" mod as it was beyond frustrating when some little doohickey prevents you from placing an object down and/or you get floating objects.

Still, is it a guaranteed raiders can't spawn inside? I'm not 100% sure but thought it depends on the settlement. I think for Sanctuary they approach from the vault, bridge, and somewhere to the east. What happens when they meet your wall? Do they actually go around to the entrance?


It's not pretty but there's access to all but a few houses. I might expand to cover all eventually.

I don't know what will happen when they attack. I built this after I was heading there and the defend quest popped. I nearly died but I decided the one settlement I cared about needed defenses.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 11:10:23 PM
#73:


Nice. First time finding the alien.
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DrCidd
05/23/19 10:46:39 AM
#74:


WastelandCowboy posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
DrCidd posted...
It's dumb, and the distances you're expected to cover for certain quests makes it a chore to play. Not to mention sleeping to save your game.

You have to play differently.

If you were actually doing the story quests you wouldn't run from point to point. You'd move when necessary, plan stopping points, stock up cautiously and do what's near, not what's preferred.

This, its more realistic. Youre not going to travel across the map to deliver a non-urgent item when you have other more pressing things to do. Priorities.


I think I'm in the majority here, but I could be wrong. However, I don't play games because they're like real life. I play them because they AREN'T like real life. Fallout new vegas had the better survival mode. Plain and simple.
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Kyuubi4269
05/23/19 11:11:26 AM
#75:


InfestedAdam posted...
Still, is it a guaranteed raiders can't spawn inside?

They only spawn inside, walls are just flavour.

DrCidd posted...
I play them because they AREN'T like real life.

That's what the other modes are for.

DrCidd posted...
Fallout new vegas had the better survival mode. Plain and simple.

If you're a casul, sure.
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InfestedAdam
05/23/19 11:18:52 AM
#76:


DrCidd posted...
Fallout new vegas had the better survival mode. Plain and simple.

I personally thought FO:NV survival mode to be very tame and borderline negligible even at the beginning of the game. That being said, FO4 survival mode is kinda the polar opposite I thought.

Certain aspects of FO4 survival mode is more of a nuisance than a challenge. Whatever challenge it is meant to give quickly goes away after several levels and establishing a settlement. Some like the lack of fast travel, continues to be a nuisance.
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DrCidd
05/23/19 11:33:50 AM
#77:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
If you're a casul, sure.


There's nothing hardcore about Fallout 4's survival mode. It's called tedium. I don't have an hour to walk across the boston wastes because a game-mode doesn't want to allow fast travel. It doesn't make the game any more difficult. If I've made the trip once, I can make it back the other way just fine.

You want something hardcore? Play super metroid without getting e-tanks and limiting your supply of power-ups.
Play fallout 4 on very hard without wearing armor (or ballistic weave) and without companions, while not allowing yourself to take the OP perks like blitz, better criticals and critical banker. Or rule out vats entirely.

There's lots of ways to make fallout 4 more challening while still being fun, as opposed to a mode than makes you sleep to save your game (again, doesn't make the game any more difficult, just tedious and annoying) and disallows fast travel (even more tedium).
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Kyuubi4269
05/23/19 11:36:26 AM
#78:


DrCidd posted...
You want something hardcore? Play super metroid without getting e-tanks and limiting your supply of power-ups.

Sounds tedious.
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SunWuKung420
05/23/19 11:49:34 AM
#79:


Whatever, I'm having fun and the lack of fast travel is immersive not tedious.
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SunWuKung420
05/24/19 5:01:58 PM
#80:


Level 24, and things are slightly easier lol.
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SunWuKung420
05/24/19 5:03:20 PM
#81:


Damn, that brewery had a ton of empty bottles. Free exp!
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SunWuKung420
05/24/19 5:04:45 PM
#82:


Lol, I got thirsty filling bottles from the river.
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SunWuKung420
05/27/19 6:45:58 PM
#83:


It's almost Christmas in the game.
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SunWuKung420
05/29/19 1:32:47 AM
#84:


Lol. Even at level 35, Kellogg still had a skull next to his name. So instead of having a conversation with him then getting attacked, I set up a path of mines and lured him to his death.
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SunWuKung420
05/29/19 6:38:00 PM
#85:


Stealth kills at 4x with a "double damage when target is full health" knife is very satisfying.
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SunWuKung420
05/30/19 7:41:26 PM
#86:


Geez, in one mission, The Big Dig, so far I've picked up a Defiant Radium Rifle and a Penetrating Combat rifle.

NICE!
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CacciatoPart3
05/30/19 7:43:01 PM
#87:


Dude. 8 straight posts. No one gives a fuck.
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SunWuKung420
05/31/19 9:09:21 PM
#88:


I named my penetrating combat rifle, "The Penetrator", after I upgraded it fully. Combined with the rifleman perks, it's a beast and probably the only gun I'll need. But the recon scope on my kneecapper sniper rifle is a good tool on survivor.

Level 47 now and I'm working on the ballistic weave upgrades.
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SunWuKung420
06/02/19 7:39:37 AM
#89:


OH YEA!

Tank mode active. I got my weave on!
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