Current Events > Did show Tyrion ever do anything inherently evil?

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AvantgardeAClue 05/15/19 9:50:52 AM #1:	I'm on season 4 now and I thought he was completely in the right for ~~killing Tywin and Shae.~~ in the former case it was a matter of covering his escape/Jaime and in the latter it was a case of self-defense. It's crazy how morally upright he and Jon have been up to this point --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:921921306] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>I'm on season 4 now and I thought he was completely in the right for killing Tywin and Shae. in the former case it was a matter of covering his escape/Jaime and in the latter it was a case of self-defense. It's crazy how morally upright he and Jon have been up to this point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 05/15/19 9:56:05 AM #2:	iirc, the show white washes his character, leaving out a lot of his dark thoughts and justifying his actions --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:921921472] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>iirc, the show white washes his character, leaving out a lot of his dark thoughts and justifying his actions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 9:58:45 AM #3:	Yeah, the Shae attacking him first bit was an invention of the show. In the book he saw her and just lost it. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921921591] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the Shae attacking him first bit was an invention of the show. In the book he saw her and just lost it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 05/15/19 10:02:52 AM #4:	"Dany didn't react when her brother was murdered, that was foreshadowing of her being crazy." "Tyrion murdered his lover and his father, but he's still a pretty good guy." That being said, he really hasn't done anything to justify this strange regret he seems to harbor that is causing him to want to be this weirdo fucking pacifist to everyone he hates. I'd maybe understand if they portrayed him more like in the books, but I don't think book Tyrion would give a shit either. --- How about I say what I want and you keep crying about it? <cite>50Blessings posted [p:921921729] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>"Dany didn't react when her brother was murdered, that was foreshadowing of her being crazy." "Tyrion murdered his lover and his father, but he's still a pretty good guy." That being said, he really hasn't done anything to justify this strange regret he seems to harbor that is causing him to want to be this weirdo fucking pacifist to everyone he hates. I'd maybe understand if they portrayed him more like in the books, but I don't think book Tyrion would give a shit either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 05/15/19 10:09:03 AM #5:	Not really. He is far more grey in the books. Probably an Anti-Hero until he has some major sanity slippage after his Trial and killing Tywin/Shaw. He tried to do a good job ruling as hand, and does some kind things like that special saddle he made for Bran. But he can be quite cruel and a giant prick sometimes even before the Trial. Mostly to giant pricks who really should be executed for their crimes anyways but he does have moments where he Kicks the Dog. Albeit his cruelty mostly comes from general mistreatement and self loathing/alcoholism related to his abusive family but yeah he has plenty of moments where he could be the bigger man(hehe) or takes his misery out on someone weaker who didnt deserve it. Tywin absolutely 100% deserved it though. --- https://imgur.com/cfZmEFd Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:921921924] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Not really. He is far more grey in the books. Probably an Anti-Hero until he has some major sanity slippage after his Trial and killing Tywin/Shaw. He tried to do a good job ruling as hand, and does some kind things like that special saddle he made for Bran. But he can be quite cruel and a giant prick sometimes even before the Trial. Mostly to giant pricks who really should be executed for their crimes anyways but he does have moments where he Kicks the Dog. Albeit his cruelty mostly comes from general mistreatement and self loathing/alcoholism related to his abusive family but yeah he has plenty of moments where he could be the bigger man(hehe) or takes his misery out on someone weaker who didnt deserve it. Tywin absolutely 100% deserved it though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 10:13:02 AM #6:	Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921922056] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 05/15/19 10:14:48 AM #7:	NeoShadowhen posted... Yeah, the Shae attacking him first bit was an invention of the show. In the book he saw her and just lost it. She called him "my giant of a Lannister" which everyone laughed about at the trial, and that made him snap. Still yeah, much more dark in the book. Shae was much different in the books too. Man that whole sequence was a million times better in the book. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:921922113] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the Shae attacking him first bit was an invention of the show. In the book he saw her and just lost it.</quote> She called him "my giant of a Lannister" which everyone laughed about at the trial, and that made him snap. Still yeah, much more dark in the book. Shae was much different in the books too. Man that whole sequence was a million times better in the book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 05/15/19 10:17:10 AM #8:	hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. Killing an Man like Tywin who has greenlit countless atrocities and been a horrifically emotionally abusive father seems fair to me. Shae less so. --- https://imgur.com/cfZmEFd Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:921922189] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> Killing an Man like Tywin who has greenlit countless atrocities and been a horrifically emotionally abusive father seems fair to me. Shae less so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/15/19 10:18:26 AM #9:	hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921922243] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 10:22:17 AM #10:	BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit. Oh, so revenge then? --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921922392] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit.</quote> Oh, so revenge then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/15/19 10:27:52 AM #11:	hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit. Oh, so revenge then? Definitely revenge. In the novel Tyrion learned the truth about his wife, Tysha, and how she genuinely loved him. Tywin had lied to him, saying that Tysha was a whore Jaime had hired to teach Tyrion a lesson. Tywin had his men then take turns fucking Tysha while Tyrion watched, making Tyrion go last. The story about her being a whore was a lie. Tysha actually loved Tyrion, and Tywin fabricated the story about her being a whore because he couldnt stand the idea of someone loving Tyrion and him being happy. This revelation is what pushed Tyrion over the edge. In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. They dropped the Tysha plot entirely despite setting it up in an earlier episode. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921922611] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit.</quote> Oh, so revenge then?</quote> Definitely revenge. In the novel Tyrion learned the truth about his wife, Tysha, and how she genuinely loved him. Tywin had lied to him, saying that Tysha was a whore Jaime had hired to teach Tyrion a lesson. Tywin had his men then take turns fucking Tysha while Tyrion watched, making Tyrion go last. The story about her being a whore was a lie. Tysha actually loved Tyrion, and Tywin fabricated the story about her being a whore because he couldnt stand the idea of someone loving Tyrion and him being happy. This revelation is what pushed Tyrion over the edge. In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. They dropped the Tysha plot entirely despite setting it up in an earlier episode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 10:31:16 AM #12:	BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921922717] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/15/19 10:32:15 AM #13:	hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921922744] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/15/19 10:36:29 AM #14:	hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit. Oh, so revenge then? Yes. Against a cruel man and even crueler father. Tywin had it coming. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:921922883] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit.</quote> Oh, so revenge then?</quote> Yes. Against a cruel man and even crueler father. Tywin had it coming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 10:37:43 AM #15:	BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin. That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does. And for the record, I'm not saying Tywin didn't deserve. I'm saying the act of murder for convenience or revenge are both inherently evil, and that Tyrion has committed at least one of these things. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921922924] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin.</quote> That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does. And for the record, I'm not saying Tywin didn't deserve. I'm saying the act of murder for convenience or revenge are both inherently evil, and that Tyrion has committed at least one of these things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpaceBear_ 05/15/19 10:38:03 AM #16:	Book Tyrion wants to rape and kill Cersei. --- - God bless, downtime and TheSlinja. YNWA GameFAQs' Favourite Sons. - Official Barman Of Champion Pub <cite>SpaceBear_ posted [p:921922941] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Book Tyrion wants to rape and kill Cersei.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/15/19 10:41:06 AM #17:	hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin. That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does. Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921923041] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin.</quote> That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does.</quote> Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 11:36:51 AM #18:	BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin. That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does. Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out. I've not read the books at all and stopped watching the show when we started burning children for shock value. But I remember this conversation happening somewhere in this show. Found it. Episode 8. Even I'm remembering a bit of this incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76l53LukE8" data-time=" --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921925066] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin.</quote> That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does.</quote> Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out.</quote> I've not read the books at all and stopped watching the show when we started burning children for shock value. But I remember this conversation happening somewhere in this show. Found it. Episode 8. Even I'm remembering a bit of this incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76l53LukE8" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 05/15/19 11:50:16 AM #19:	hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... BlueBoy675 posted... In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death. That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved. And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin. That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does. Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out. I've not read the books at all and stopped watching the show when we started burning children for shock value. But I remember this conversation happening somewhere in this show. Found it. Episode 8. Even I'm remembering a bit of this incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76l53LukE8" data-time=" I dont think youre following me here. Yes, I know they discussed it in season 1. I mentioned that earlier. What Im criticizing is that the reveal about the truth of those events was completely left out. Tysha is one of Tyrions driving motivations in the novels. In the show its brought up one time and then promptly dropped. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:921925659] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote>In the show he was just mad because Tywin sentenced him for Joffreys death.</quote> That backstory is still there in the show. Only she wasn't his wife (though I think they might have been engaged), and Jamie wasn't involved.</quote> And it was never brought up again after it was first mentioned and the truth was never revealed. In the show it had nothing to do with with why Tyrion killed Tywin.</quote> That story is used to show us how hopeless that relationship is and the depths of Tywin's hatred for his son. The themes that story explores are very much at the heart of why that murder plays out the way it does.</quote> Yes... I know. Im criticizing the show for leaving it out.</quote> I've not read the books at all and stopped watching the show when we started burning children for shock value. But I remember this conversation happening somewhere in this show. Found it. Episode 8. Even I'm remembering a bit of this incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76l53LukE8" data-time="</quote> I dont think youre following me here. Yes, I know they discussed it in season 1. I mentioned that earlier. What Im criticizing is that the reveal about the truth of those events was completely left out. Tysha is one of Tyrions driving motivations in the novels. In the show its brought up one time and then promptly dropped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/15/19 11:52:06 AM #20:	Okay, I'm following you now. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:921925737] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Okay, I'm following you now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 05/15/19 11:54:09 AM #21:	wherever whores go --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:921925814] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>wherever whores go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 05/15/19 11:58:49 AM #22:	Book Tyrion: ~~openly professes that his goal is to rape and murder Cersei.~~ Show Tyrion: ~~Spends two seasons trying over and over to keep Dany from killing Cersei.~~ --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:921926024] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>Book Tyrion: openly professes that his goal is to rape and murder Cersei. Show Tyrion: Spends two seasons trying over and over to keep Dany from killing Cersei.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 05/15/19 12:02:10 PM #23:	he straight-up murdered Tywin and threw the realm in to chaos --- GT My Lord Shadow Member of the PC Master race <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:921926151] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote>he straight-up murdered Tywin and threw the realm in to chaos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 05/15/19 12:30:26 PM #24:	BlueBoy675 posted... hollow_shrine posted... Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away. It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit. He knew Tywin would realize Jaime helped him though. He was already an embarrassment for losing his hand and this would've made it worse. Plus, Tywin still totally deserved it. It was a selfish act, but it probably did just as much good as it did bad, at least in the short term. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:921927313] in Did show T... [t:77716658]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlueBoy675 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Killing someone to cover your escape is not justified. That's clearly a murder of convenience. Sure the alternative sucks for you, but that doesn't make the moral weight of such a decision go away.</quote> It wasnt even to cover his escape. He went out of his way to find Tywin who was taking a shit.</quote> He knew Tywin would realize Jaime helped him though. He was already an embarrassment for losing his hand and this would've made it worse. Plus, Tywin still totally deserved it. It was a selfish act, but it probably did just as much good as it did bad, at least in the short term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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