Current Events > fml, bought an $850 watch, customs wants me to pay $120 import fee now

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No_U_L7 posted...

Water resistance helps a lot for fast submergence, ie swimming

Yes I mean let me know next time you are swimming 600m deep. My phone does that too.

No_U_L7 posted...

And go ahead and ignore the practicality of tracking multiple timezones while traveling lol

Oh I just didn't feel the need to address it considering my phone (and brain) do the same thing.

Adding up to 12 is not hard. I just assumed that was a given considering the circumstances, but if you really needed $1000 to do that then I can't stop you.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

Yes I mean let me know next time you are swimming 600m deep. My phone does that too.

You take your phone swimming?

PatrickMahomes posted...

Oh I just didn't feel the need to address it considering my phone (and brain) do the same thing.

Adding up to 12 is not hard. I just assumed that was a given considering the circumstances, but if you really needed $1000 to do that then I can't stop you.

So you admit it makes things easier?

I cant believe theres 2 people this pedantically daft, you have to be muffinorz. Good riddance
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No_U_L7 posted...

You take your phone swimming?

No but much like a watch, sometimes you forget you have it on you. The concept of jumping into a pool forgetting there's a phone in your pocket or forgetting you're wearing a watch is that foreign to you?

No_U_L7 posted...

So you admit it makes things easier?

Again, like I said, if that $1000 helps make counting up to 12 a little easier, than I can't change your mind.

No_U_L7 posted...

I cant believe theres 2 people this pedantically daft, you have to be muffinorz. Good riddance

Again, like I said, I don't know what or whom that is.
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No_U_L7 posted...

who posted

I did
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lmao 850 for a watch. that's how much my italian shoes cost. for each foot.
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SauI_Goodman posted...

lmao 850 for a watch. that's how much my italian shoes cost. for each foot.

I spend 500 for a pair of shoes and they're custom designed too
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Why are you such a bitch?
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

Why are you such a bitch?

Dont be rude to @SauI_Goodman
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y'know they make quartz watches now, right?

Complete_Idi0t posted...

y'know they make quartz watches now, right?

That's like saying "they make fake boobs now". Natural is usually superior
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

No_U_L7 posted...

automatic movement, stronger lume, smoother bezel action, gmt function, more accurate movement

Bruh you do know it's just a way to tell what time it is right?

I mean, I can at least understand the appeal. It's like how people spend a lot on high end sports cars.

Update to the story: i refused to pay the import duties and told the delivery service it was excessive. they showed me the paperwork. I told them to classify it as an "automatic watch" instead of as "general jewelry". They refused unless i did the work for them and told them the proper code. I took a few hours, dug into the thousands of pages of import manuals and found the right code. Drops the import duty from 11% to 4.2%. They made me fill out excessive paperwork and they are processing it now. Looks like I wouldn't get my watch this wknd. Also emailed the watch company to tell them they fucked up. They said "duties are not our responsibility" and I told them it was their responsibility to make sure their exports were properly classified. I asked to speak to the manager who replied that he will have his head of logistics look into it and that i was right about the improper classification.

tl;dr, always question authority
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I mean, is it their fault? You're the one who brought it back through customs, I feel like the customs agent should've been like "ok this is a watch, not jewelry" when you declared it.

EliManning posted...

I mean, is it their fault? You're the one who brought it back through customs, I feel like the customs agent should've been like "ok this is a watch, not jewelry" when you declared it.

You guys need to read the topic. I ordered it online
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yea. custom lightsabers go through customs and pay the import fee too. so thats about the price range of your watch.

many collectors complain about it. some customers tell the company or person to label it differently. it changes the insurance and customers often get the insurance and stuff. it sometimes works. the package often gets searched due to its nature.
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No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

I mean, is it their fault? You're the one who brought it back through customs, I feel like the customs agent should've been like "ok this is a watch, not jewelry" when you declared it.

You guys need to read the topic. I ordered it online

But is it still their fault? Whose responsibility is it?
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EliManning posted...

But is it still their fault? Whose responsibility is it?

It's the exporters responsibility to properly label their exports and use the proper code
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No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

But is it still their fault? Whose responsibility is it?

It's the exporters responsibility to properly label their exports and use the proper code

According to whom?
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EliManning posted...

No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

But is it still their fault? Whose responsibility is it?

It's the exporters responsibility to properly label their exports and use the proper code

According to whom?

International shipping laws...
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No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

But is it still their fault? Whose responsibility is it?

It's the exporters responsibility to properly label their exports and use the proper code

According to whom?

International shipping laws...

Need specifics please.
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EliManning posted...

Need specifics please.

im too lazy. let's just say you're right and the party shipping a package isn't responsible for clearly stating the contents, since that makes so much sense
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Why did you claim it instead of just wearing it back?
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justaguy3492 posted...

Why did you claim it instead of just wearing it back?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77716160/922077722
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No_U_L7 posted...

Update to the story: i refused to pay the import duties and told the delivery service it was excessive. they showed me the paperwork. I told them to classify it as an "automatic watch" instead of as "general jewelry". They refused unless i did the work for them and told them the proper code. I took a few hours, dug into the thousands of pages of import manuals and found the right code. Drops the import duty from 11% to 4.2%. They made me fill out excessive paperwork and they are processing it now. Looks like I wouldn't get my watch this wknd. Also emailed the watch company to tell them they fucked up. They said "duties are not our responsibility" and I told them it was their responsibility to make sure their exports were properly classified. I asked to speak to the manager who replied that he will have his head of logistics look into it and that i was right about the improper classification.

tl;dr, always question authority

lol you really think the manager gives a shit even if he did report the problem to the head of logistics the head of logistics isn't going to give 2 shits all they do is sit at their desk and waste time probably can't even respond to e-mails that's your typical 9-5er.

CharlesBronson posted...

lol you really think the manager gives a shit even if he did report the problem to the head of logistics the head of logistics isn't going to give 2 shits all they do is sit at their desk and waste time probably can't even respond to e-mails that's your typical 9-5er.

I threw a big hissy fit on their forum, lots of ppl backed me. They have no choice but to look into it
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No_U_L7 posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I will literally never understand why somebody would spend more than ~$100 on a nice watch.

automatic movement, stronger lume, smoother bezel action, gmt function, more accurate movement, size of case

Wrong. People buy expensive watches for status. Like I know one asshole who flashes his 3000 omega watch when ever he has the chance.
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Cobra1010 posted...

No_U_L7 posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I will literally never understand why somebody would spend more than ~$100 on a nice watch.

automatic movement, stronger lume, smoother bezel action, gmt function, more accurate movement, size of case

Wrong. People buy expensive watches for status. Like I know one asshole who flashes his 3000 omega watch when ever he has the chance.

That's anecdotal. Theres entire watch forums and communities dedicated to the horology of watches
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No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

Need specifics please.

im too lazy. let's just say you're right and the party shipping a package isn't responsible for clearly stating the contents, since that makes so much sense

Me, the watch company: "In this box is a watch."

Why is the onus on me to do anything more specific than that?
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EliManning posted...

Me, the watch company: "In this box is a watch."

Why is the onus on me to do anything more specific than that?

not even factoring in the legalities, you would be more specific because you're otherwise screwing over your customer on the other end, when customer relations is a big part of business. i talked directly to the co-founder btw and he agreed, he's having his head of logistics look into it
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No_U_L7 posted...

EliManning posted...

Me, the watch company: "In this box is a watch."

Why is the onus on me to do anything more specific than that?

not even factoring in the legalities, you would be more specific because you're otherwise screwing over your customer on the other end, when customer relations is a big part of business. i talked directly to the co-founder btw and he agreed, he's having his head of logistics look into it

You order a watch, you get a watch. If you don't, then call and fix it like you've done.

What's more complicated than that?
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You ship a watch, you label it as a watch

Also seems very uncomplicated
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TC, here. Update: dispute finalized, final duties are...$22. Yeah that's quite a bit less isnt it lol
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Nice.
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hey tc does that christopher ward have an exhibition caseback?
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JebronLames posted...

hey tc does that christopher ward have an exhibition caseback?

sadly no, but it has a p cool trident caseback https://www.watchitallabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/cw-trident-mk3-5.jpg
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ScofieldReturns posted...

TC, here. Update: dispute finalized, final duties are...$22. Yeah that's quite a bit less isnt it lol

Wait are you the head of logistics at this watch company? How did you know this was TC?
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yeah i don't understand automatics with solid casebacks, all of my automatics have exh. casebacks. Don't think i'd consider an auto without one. Have heard some people before say ward's' look funny with how they put their name on their watch.
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JebronLames posted...

yeah i don't understand automatics with solid casebacks, all of my automatics have exh. casebacks. Don't think i'd consider an auto without one. Have heard some people before say ward's' look funny with how they put their name on their watch.

i understand the complaints but their logo doesn't bother me, although i did prefer the old one. my new model does have a "ghost logo" at 12 (look closely): https://imgur.com/fnd4HdL

my understanding is when you're getting to 600m water resistance, it becomes harder to have an exhibition caseback (although my steinhart has exhibition caseback and gets to 500m). either way, although i much prefer the exhibition caseback, solid case back isn't a dealbreaker since i'm usually wearing the watch. i've probably shown people the exhibition caseback a handful of times so it's nice to have on hand, especially when explaining what an automatic watch is to someone. but if i like the watch enough it's not a dealbreaker
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Looked through a few Rolexs on Amazon, their prices ranging anywhere from just 40$-80k even and I cant really tell the differance of value between any of them.

Material goods such as things debately arent even worth it for luxury unlike houses rings, or cars. Where even the average person can distinguish and understand their values.
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Go for the 10k Rolex, or no more than a hundred if being cheap.
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Prismsblade posted...

Looked through a few Rolexs on Amazon, their prices ranging anywhere from just 40$-80k even and I cant really tell the differance of value between any of them.

Material goods such as things debately arent even worth it for luxury unlike houses rings, or cars. Where even the average person can distinguish and understand their values.

the difference is in the construction, the type of crystal used, the type of anti reflective coating, the type of lume, etc.

again, it may not be worth it to you...but there's literally millions of watch enthusiasts who study and go crazy over these things

i like these things because i like and understand them, not to impress others
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CountDog posted...

Go for the 10k Rolex, or no more than a hundred if being cheap.

you have no reasoning for that. there is plenty of value in the mid range. i established where the law of diminishing returns exists for myself and imo it's right around this just under 1k range
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No_U_L7 posted...

Prismsblade posted...

Looked through a few Rolexs on Amazon, their prices ranging anywhere from just 40$-80k even and I cant really tell the differance of value between any of them.

Material goods such as things debately arent even worth it for luxury unlike houses rings, or cars. Where even the average person can distinguish and understand their values.

the difference is in the construction, the type of crystal used, the type of anti reflective coating, the type of lume, etc.

again, it may not be worth it to you...but there's literally millions of watch enthusiasts who study and go crazy over these things

i like these things because i like and understand them, not to impress others

i agree, like sapphire crystals, but you can get a watch with a sapphire crystal for like 200 bones
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JebronLames posted...

i agree, like sapphire crystals, but you can get a watch with a sapphire crystal for like 200 bones

even within that, there's different types of sapphire crystals. single domed, double domed, anti reflective coating, AR coating only on outside or inside, and then different classes of AR coating (some with blue hues, green hues, etc)
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tc have you ever heard of the valjoux 7750 automatic chrono movement or the sellita sw 200? great movements that at least cost 500, in a watch
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No_U_L7 posted...

JebronLames posted...

i agree, like sapphire crystals, but you can get a watch with a sapphire crystal for like 200 bones

even within that, there's different types of sapphire crystals. single domed, double domed, anti reflective coating, AR coating only on outside or inside, and then different classes of AR coating (some with blue hues, green hues, etc)

i have like 3 watches with sapphire cyrstals, iirc they all have ar coating. They ranged from 159 to 240, yeah i really waited until a good deal
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JebronLames posted...

tc have you ever heard of the valjoux 7750 automatic chrono movement or the sellita sw 200? great movements that at least cost 500, in a watch

yeah, the valjoux is used in a lot of hamiltons, mostly chronographs. i looked into it when i was thinking of getting one but my smaller wrists wouldn't allow it lol

the sellita is just a modified ETA 2824. solid, dependable, nice sweeping seconds hand. don't like that it only gets up to 38 hours power reserve. my ETA 2893 gets up to 42. Hamilton modified it to get up to 80 hour power reserve (but with a less smooth seconds hand)
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