Current Events > So why did they rush the final season of GoT?

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As a non-fan Im just confused knowing that the books arent even finished why they would rush the end of this show? I had planned to watch it but a bad final season can really spoil the whole thing imo.

I'm guessing the budget has been blowing out for some time now.
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Might end up like TWD when it comes to actors
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the showrunners haven't had their hearts in it since season 3 and they started phoning it in heavily with prospects of other tv shows and then their own star wars trilogy to play with. they just want it over with. they originally wanted to end with the seventh season which would have been even more rushed but now we have this mangled mess
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What's super weird is that it wasn't rushed. They literally took 2 years to make it. I'm enjoying season 8, but I do wish it had 10 episodes. Another 4 episodes devoted to development and exposition could've gone a long way toward minimizing the complaints from the fanbase about things feeling too sudden.
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People hating on it have like no legitimate argument half the time. Dany's character has been heading this way, people just didn't want to acknowledge it I suppose. Cersei and Jaime was weak, but this season has been solid for the most part.
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how i feel watching this season:

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/aae4d134-fbe2-4679-960d-c82c41576bac
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Because D&D didnt have source material for how the story ends and have no idea how to write compelling and complex narratives like GRRM. All they had was spectacle, and since spectacle costs money, they knew they couldnt continue their charade much longer. So, they raced to the finish line.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

What's super weird is that it wasn't rushed. They literally took 2 years to make it.

this

But yes prospects of other jobs. Supposedly they were offered more episodes and said no. GRRM refusing to finish his damn books, I think book 5 was out when season 1 started and we still are waiting on book 6.

Overall a variety of factors have lead to season 8. Yes it has problems, but it's not the worst thing ever.

_Deuce_ posted...

People hating on it have like no legitimate argument half the time. Dany's character has been heading this way, people just didn't want to acknowledge it I suppose. Cersei and Jaime was weak, but this season has been solid for the most part.

Yes a number of things that have happened in season 8 were foreshadowed ages ago. However a number of things are problems like various character regressions. Cersei being one glaring example of a character that has been shafted in season 8 big time. It's a mixed bag. Overall I'd say I've enjoyed it, but thinking about it, if the writing was on par with season 8 for all 8 seasons, I probably would not have enjoyed the show. But as a finale, season 8 does the job well enough, but yes it could potentially be a lot better....but then again maybe not, it's clear GRRM has no clue how he wants to end his own story, so I'm not sure D and D deserve ALL the blame here.

Because they wanted to make sure George Martin didnt try to hastily write in something that would prolong the series.
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Sphyx posted...

I'm guessing the budget has been blowing out for some time now.

I highly doubt that. This is probably HBO's biggest show ever, its definitely up there.

It makes much more sense that the creators are ready to wrap it up and move on in their careers. Unfortunately I dont think they're escaping this season without dinging their reputation.

But jj Abrams made it past lost, and they'll probably move past this pretty easily
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Solid Snake07 posted...

Sphyx posted...

I'm guessing the budget has been blowing out for some time now.

I highly doubt that. This is probably HBO's biggest show ever, its definitely up there.

It makes much more sense that the creators are ready to wrap it up and move on in their careers. Unfortunately I dont think they're escaping this season without dinging their reputation.

But jj Abrams made it past lost, and they'll probably move past this pretty easily

Abrams was more the GRRM for Lost.

Lindelof and Cuse were the main people running the show.

But you're right. It didn't really hurt them either.
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@_Deuce_ posted...

People hating on it have like no legitimate argument half the time. Dany's character has been heading this way, people just didn't want to acknowledge it I suppose. Cersei and Jaime was weak, but this season has been solid for the most part.

Dany has never harmed an innocent. Not a single time. It's literally her character defining trait.

Burning the Tarlys is not the same thing. The only way anyone could argue it's in character for Dany is if they forget the whole Essos plot from Qarth onwards.

Dany is crazy and would for sure destroy noble houses left and right but she's not gonna kill innocents for no reason at all.

I haven't heard one good argument for her killing all these innocents besides "she went mad, she hated everyone around her and lost all this shit that's so instead of going crazy in a way that makes sense like trying to kill Sansa or Tyrion and Jon or anything like that she gave up the few real beliefs she had for the lulz".
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Sphyx posted...

I'm guessing the budget has been blowing out for some time now.

nah, HBO was handing them blank cheques and was happy for another couple seasons

probably the pressure of having to write for the biggest TV show for 8+ years and having to make up for finishing GRRMs story and wanting to do other stuff in their life
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this is a good article if anyone wanted to read into why S8 is rushed

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/9/18537794/game-of-thrones-ending-too-quickly-pacing
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The creators wanted to work on Star Wars and that godawful Confederate show in peace

GRRM said they could've easily went up to 10 seasons at the current pace, so he had no part of it
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Parappa09 posted...

this is a good article if anyone wanted to read into why S8 is rushed

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/9/18537794/game-of-thrones-ending-too-quickly-pacing

that was a good article.

thanks for sharing

AvantgardeAClue posted...

The creators wanted to work on Star Wars and that godawful Confederate show in peace

GRRM said they could've easily went up to 10 seasons at the current pace, so he had no part of it

he did in the sense that he hasn't finished a book in the 8 seasons or what is it 10 years? that the show has been on.

While yes D and D deserve to get shit on for rushing this, GRRM deserves shit for not finishing his own story and expecting someone else to tie up what is a very complex story all together in a nice little bow.

Zeeak4444 posted...

@_Deuce_ posted...

People hating on it have like no legitimate argument half the time. Dany's character has been heading this way, people just didn't want to acknowledge it I suppose. Cersei and Jaime was weak, but this season has been solid for the most part.

Dany has never harmed an innocent. Not a single time. It's literally her character defining trait.

Burning the Tarlys is not the same thing. The only way anyone could argue it's in character for Dany is if they forget the whole Essos plot from Qarth onwards.

Dany is crazy and would for sure destroy noble houses left and right but she's not gonna kill innocents for no reason at all.

I haven't heard one good argument for her killing all these innocents besides "she went mad, she hated everyone around her and lost all this shit that's so instead of going crazy in a way that makes sense like trying to kill Sansa or Tyrion and Jon or anything like that she gave up the few real beliefs she had for the lulz".

while rushed in season 8, the threats of a new mad king being Danny have been there. She has struggled since day 1 of being a queen to be nice a fair and rule with strength. When entering the north since day 1 she has to contend with not being loved there and everyone wanting Jon to be king of the north again because everyone loves Jon.

Season 8 just rushed this process. Instead of a slow break up between Jon and Danny we got the quickie break up for example.

She literally had this struggle when she chained up her dragons and then let them free again. She realized she had to at least in part be a dragon and dragons eat whatever they want.

he did in the sense that he hasn't finished a book in the 8 seasons or what is it 10 years? that the show has been on.

While yes D and D deserve to get shit on for rushing this, GRRM deserves shit for not finishing his own story and expecting someone else to tie up what is a very complex story all together in a nice little bow.


It's not GRRM's fault he told them the main plot points and they executed them in the shittiest way possible. GRRM wrote most of the early seasons, and even then there are people getting paid hella bread to do so competently. D and D wanted to finish the story faster, so they have to deal with the shitshow of tying loose ends up.
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