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dave_is_slick posted...

Also, how long did it take until you realized it was "Meat on the Bone" instead of "on the meat bone"? f***ing pissed me off honestly, they say the exact same thing!

For me, I tried "Bone on the meat"
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dave_is_slick posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Improved Hangman's Gambit keeps me more engaged

You are in the insanely small minority. Nobody liked it.

Also, how long did it take until you realized it was "Meat on the Bone" instead of "on the meat bone"? Fucking pissed me off honestly, they say the exact same thing!

I did find it to be a little annoying at times. It took way too long for some of the letters I needed to show up but that's my only real complaint with the Improved Hangman's Gambit.

And holy shit, I thought I was the only one who took some time to figure out the correct phrase for that part. I didn't mention it because I thought I would look stupid. "On the meat bone" were my initial thoughts as well.
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... didn't realize there was a whole thing with "meat on the bone"
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kyujo posted...

... didn't realize there was a whole thing with "meat on the bone"

Me too, I got it on the first try. It wasn't until after I finished the game and saw everyone talking about it. I've also watched 3 or 4 LPs of DR2 and they all got it on the first try too, but the comments always talk about how they got it wrong.

The first case is just a sample of how long and complex trials are in DR2. The devs can assume that you played DR1 already so they don't have to slowly ease you into it with an extremely easy first case.
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I'm siding with the whole group when it comes to not giving a shit about Nagito. Dude's insane. Also, Mahiru is cute. I like how normal she is compared to the other characters.
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Kind of shitty to leave Nagito tied up like that but I understand. He's too dangerous to be left alone.
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He just wants to keep hope alive lol
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Nagito is the man
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I've been spending a lot of free time with Mahiru. She definitely has a thing for Hajime.

Edit: My pet just died...

Feline_Heart posted...

He just wants to keep hope alive lol

I feel like he's doing the opposite tbh

Popcorn_Fairy posted...

Nagito is the man

He was at first. Maybe he'll get his shit together later on.
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Chiaki in that swimsuit

Lord have mercy on my soul

Edit: This fanservice man
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I think it's time for me to take a small break because they just killed off one of the best girls. Mahiru was supposed to make it until the end. Who would kill such a nice girl?
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Welcome to Danganronpa!
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The_Scarecrow posted...

I think it's time for me to take a small break because they just killed off one of the best girls. Mahiru was supposed to make it until the end. Who would kill such a nice girl?

I was bummed about that too because she was my favorite girl at that point in the game
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Mahiru was clearly not an endgame material

I didn't like Mahiru at first. She's a bit abrasive. Once you got to know her though, she's actually a sweetheart. Shame most players don't get the chance to know her very well. That's the thing with a lot of "dies early" characters.

Honestly most of the girls are pretty great.
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I never cared for Mahiru in the slightest, but its part of what makes this game interesting... everyone seems to have their own personal favorites.
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Kazuichi had a dream that he was checking Sonia's muffler. He woke up exhausted.

The_Scarecrow posted...

Chiaki in that swimsuit

Lord have mercy on my soul

Edit: This fanservice man

Not gonna lie, I was basically thinking the exact thing Kazuichi was. Didn't know until then and there she had some big ass boobs!
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dave_is_slick posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Chiaki in that swimsuit

Lord have mercy on my soul

Edit: This fanservice man

Not gonna lie, I was basically thinking the exact thing Kazuichi was. Didn't know until then and there she had some big ass boobs!

She didnt flaunt them like Akane, but they were definitely always there


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vocedelmorte posted...

Mahiru was clearly not an endgame material

She deserved to be to be honest

Umbreon posted...

I didn't like Mahiru at first. She's a bit abrasive. Once you got to know her though, she's actually a sweetheart. Shame most players don't get the chance to know her very well. That's the thing with a lot of "dies early" characters.

Honestly most of the girls are pretty great.

She was very sweet. I was close to getting all of the hope fragments with her, too. I feel like my more liked characters are going to be the ones who get killed off in this game.
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I am stumped on this class trial. I'm going over all of the evidence but I'm not sure how to put it all together. First, I think it's safe to say that Gundham and Nekomaru are not suspects in this murder. My reasoning is that they were barely around at all unlike the rest of the cast. Nagito is most likely innocent as well since he was tied up. As for who seems like to have murdered Mahiru, I have no idea. An obvious suspect is Fuyuhiko but I don't think it was him. Prior to the murder, he has the yellow envelope from participating in that arcade game Monokuma created and he was in the area during the time of the murder. However, I think he represents Guy F from the game since he has a little sister. Problem is he's the most obvious suspect so it can't be him.

Then, you have Peko. As for a motive, I have no idea why should would have killed Mahiru. However, it's worth noting that Peko was in the area during the time of the murder by claiming she went for a swim. It's possible she could have been lying about swimming. She was soaking wet when she entered the diner but there were also a plethora of used water bottles in the beach house where Mahiru was murdered. It's possible that Peko used the water bottles to fake the image of her swimming. Peko was also the only person in the library when she overheard Sonia talking to Hajime about Sparkling Justice. Peko could have took a Sparkling Justice mask from the supermarket and place it to maybe frame Sonia or someone else? Sonia did have a wetsuit and it looked like there were similar wetsuits in the closet of the beach house but Sonia is too pure for murder.

We also have Hiyoko but I don't think it was her. Her footprints are in front of the beach house door and she did leave a gummy in the closet of the beach house. She also tried to meet up with Mahiru close to before the murder took place. However, Hiyoko thought of Mahiru as a sister and she was clearly broken up about her death judging from her running away from the crime scene crying and whatnot. Plus, Hiyoko is really small. I think her height is 4'2" with a weight of around 70 lbs. There's no way she could have killed Mahiru with a baseball bat. Plus, I don't think she has the strength to move Mahiru's body and not get blood all over her kimono in the process. Another reason why Peko seems more likely. She's superb at swinging due to her Ultimate Swordswoman title. She's probably fairly strong and she used the water bottles to dispose of any blood on her after the murder.

I'm still trying to piece together how the arcade game fully plays into this. Also, there's the issue with that high window in the shower room of the beach house. Still not completely sure how that factors into this. I'm probably missing a few more clues but I believe Hajime mentioned the killer having an accomplice. We know from the first game that the only the killer is blackened so the accomplice gains nothing from helping but I don't think that has been explained yet at this point in the game to the characters. Therefore, they wouldn't know. It's possible Peko and maybe Fuyuhiko worked together but like I said before, Fuyuhiko seems to obvious.

As for the photos found in Mahiru's room, it had an image of a dead girl killed by a bat like in that arcade game. It also had an image of Mikan, Hiyoko, and Ibuki together. Still trying to figure out how this plays into everything. These pics tie into the game but I'm not sure if my thought process is correct. I have an idea of how they play into it but it's so ridiculous that I'd rather not say just yet. Best if I start this class trial soon and see what happens. I think the killer is Peko which would be a shame because I'm starting to like her more and more but we'll see.

Thinking about it, perhaps Fuyuhiko was planning a murder but Peko stepped in. She did seem like she wanted to be close to him by making attempts to talk to him despite her more quiet demeanor. Who knows. I'm just speculating.
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vocedelmorte posted...

Mahiru was clearly not an endgame material

tbh after case 1, Mahiru was one of my top picks to survive everything. She had an emerging storyline about wanting to prove herself and be useful, and I thought that it would carry her until the end. Nopez.

Also, to be fair, some random ass characters make the endgame. I won't comment on DR2 or 3 to avoid spoiling TC, but in 1...Hiro isn't really endgame material at all, and he's totally irrelevant to everything, but he makes it to the end. I actually strongly suspected him of being the mastermind in 1 because he was so disconnected from everything else, and such a weird character. But yeah, anything can be endgame material in that series.
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Wow, what a class trial. I did not expect things to play out the way they did. First and foremost, R.I.P. to Mahiru. She will be missed. There were several things I did not factor into this class trial such as Hiyoko only eating specific gummy bears and Peko using her bamboo sword to boost herself up to that high window in the shower room. I would have never guessed Peko's motive. I guess some subtle hints were dropped such as Peko and Fuyuhiko interacting with each other but it would have been a lot to deduce. Peko's execution was one of the more sadder ones especially when Fuyuhiko jumped in and got hurt himself. I feel bad for them. Still doesn't excuse what happened to Mahiru of course. I did like Peko's execution.

Since Fuyuhiko got hurt now and is recovering, I expect him to make it until the end. I actually kind of like the guy now so that's good. Sonia and Chiaki are still around so that's a plus as well. Same with Kazuichi. As for the new gameplay element introduced called Logic Dive, not sure how I feel about it just yet. It's just kinda there. Improved Hangman's Gambit is becoming increasingly annoying with how long it takes for the letters I need to pop up sometimes

I haven't progressed much beyond the second class trial as of right now. Hiyoko seems to be suspicious but I don't really care if she kicks the bucket. The only good thing about her is the banter.
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Aw Hiyoko really cares about Mahiru by creating that memorial. My bad for doubting her.
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I'm actually kind of liking this third island. It's different. Glad Fuyuhiko is okay, too.
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The second trial in DR2 is one of my least favorites in the series.
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Chiaki's room looks very similar to my room. A bunch of game consoles on the floor connected to the TV. If only I had an arcade cabinet. I've been keeping an eye out for a Street Fighter III Third Strike arcade cabinet but I don't have any room for one.

Popcorn_Fairy posted...

The second trial in DR2 is one of my least favorites in the series.

Why is that?
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The_Scarecrow posted...

Why is that?

Just didn't care for any of it. I didn't like the investigation with the video game thing. The crime and motive I thought was weak. The trial was weak. I didn't really like the Sparkling Justice thing. The whole chapter was just super weak I thought.
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I loved case 2, honestly. Even though I figured it out right away (I caught the Peko being wet/waterbottle thing immediately, and never took my eye off of Peko afterwards), I thought it was a really well-done case. The motive is one of my favorites in the series, and I love the Peko/Fuyuhiko moments at the end as they try to express their feelings in their final moments. I genuinely cried during that whole sequence. It also elevated both a lot on my rankings, especially Fuyuhiko, who went from near the bottom of my list to near the top due to that trial.
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Why is that?

Just didn't care for any of it. I didn't like the investigation with the video game thing. The crime and motive I thought was weak. The trial was weak. I didn't really like the Sparkling Justice thing. The whole chapter was just super weak I thought.

Thats understandable. I liked the little video game part and I liked the motive involved. It made the characters involved stand out a lot more than they did previously. I didnt like Sparkling Justice either. Seemed really silly but they dropped that angle so its all good.

dotsdfe posted...

I loved case 2, honestly. Even though I figured it out right away (I caught the Peko being wet/waterbottle thing immediately, and never took my eye off of Peko afterwards), I thought it was a really well-done case. The motive is one of my favorites in the series, and I love the Peko/Fuyuhiko moments at the end as they try to express their feelings in their final moments. I genuinely cried during that whole sequence. It also elevated both a lot on my rankings, especially Fuyuhiko, who went from near the bottom of my list to near the top due to that trial.

I agree with this. I liked the case. It was pretty good and Im enjoying the investigations and trials immensely this time around not that I didnt with DR1.
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I was thinking of getting these on PC to replay, but think I'll wait
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Does level matter in Danganronpa 2? I'm almost level 40
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Akane is a fool. The gang was having a good time and she had to challenge Monokuma. Now, Nekomaru is going to die.

Edit: Thankfully, Dr. Killgood came in for the save.
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The_Scarecrow posted...

Does level matter in Danganronpa 2? I'm almost level 40

Not that I know of.
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Despair Disease is unexpected and different. I'll have to see more of it. Also, I think it's great that character's Ultimate abilities become more useful in this game. I'm speaking of Kazuichi fixing up those cameras and two way communication systems while part of the group stays in the hospital with the diseased while the other part of the group stays at the motel.

dave_is_slick posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Does level matter in Danganronpa 2? I'm almost level 40

Not that I know of.

Hm, okay. I may end up reaching level 99 or level 100 or whatever the highest level is since it seems so easy to level up in this game.
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Not only did the killer take advantage of Ibuki's illness and probably told her to commit suicide but they also slit Hiyoko's throat. Whoever did this is a sick fuck. Ibuki has been really stepping up lately and Hiyoko was trying to change for the better. I didn't even like Hiyoko that much but even she deserved better.
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I think from DR 2 onward, each student's skills really come into place for the murders.

Also, 2-3 is one of the cases I was instantly able to tell who the murderer was. Have fun
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The_Scarecrow posted...

Not only did the killer take advantage of Ibuki's illness and probably told her to commit suicide but they also slit Hiyoko's throat. Whoever did this is a sick fuck. Ibuki has been really stepping up lately and Hiyoko was trying to change for the better. I didn't even like Hiyoko that much but even she deserved better.

Apparently Hiyoko was originally supposed to make it to the end. Don't know what changed. Besides the obvious "murdered" thing.
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I've done all the investigating and I'm about to start the class trial. Given Ibuki's Despair Disease status, I think it's safe to say that she was told to commit suicide and possibly kill Hiyoko before she done so. In fact, I think Hiyoko died before Ibuki. Ibuki had blood on the sole of her shoes. That has to be Hiyoko's blood since Ibuki didn't have any other injuries unless the killer somehow got hurt.

It's safe to rule out Fuyuhiko, Gundham, Akane, and Nagito as suspects. Hajime ran into Gundham at the motel so there's no way Gundham could have tied Hiyoko's body to the pillar and beat Hajime back to the motel. Fuyuhiko isn't going to kill anyone given what happened to him during the last class trial. He's not a killer. Akane and Nagito were still inflicted with the Despair Disease at this time so they wouldn't be able to plan and carry out something like this. That leaves Kazuichi, Sonia, and Mikan. Kazuichi doesn't have much of an alibi and neither does Sonia. However, Sonia felt pretty guilty about telling Hiyoko to go to the music venue to tie her sash plus if she was the killer, she wouldn't have mentioned that. Kazuichi probably wouldn't have his modified equipment smashed like that either.

With Mikan, she was working very close with all of the patients including Ibuki. I suspect Mikan might have been infected with the Despair Disease herself and perhaps told Ibuki what to do and how to do it. Since Mikan is usually innocent and unsure of herself, I could see the Despair Disease making her the complete opposite. Also, I think a person with medical knowledge/military training could only pull off or at least tell someone how to slit a throat properly. Hiyoko's death was instant but slitting a throat is usually slow and very messy. If you wanted it to be a quick process, I think you'd have to target the carotid artery or jugular vein and most people don't know where those are located let alone what they are. I could be looking into this way too much but I took some anatomy classes for pre-med so I wanted to point that out.

There's plenty of evidence I'm overlooking but I don't think I have to acknowledge that until the actual class trial. I'm pretty sure Mikan is the killer. She's probably the only one who could pull this off given her interacting with Ibuki the most and being likely infected. I'll be shocked if it was someone else.

Forgot to mention that Chiaki is obviously not the killer. She's best girl after all.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

I think from DR 2 onward, each student's skills really come into place for the murders.

Also, 2-3 is one of the cases I was instantly able to tell who the murderer was. Have fun

That's great news. Some of the student's skills in the first game seemed incredibly useless.

dave_is_slick posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Not only did the killer take advantage of Ibuki's illness and probably told her to commit suicide but they also slit Hiyoko's throat. Whoever did this is a sick fuck. Ibuki has been really stepping up lately and Hiyoko was trying to change for the better. I didn't even like Hiyoko that much but even she deserved better.

Apparently Hiyoko was originally supposed to make it to the end. Don't know what changed. Besides the obvious "murdered" thing.

I would have bet on Hiyoko making it until the end after Chapter 2. She was having character development due to Mahiru's death. I would have liked to see where it would have gone but oh well.
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Quick update while Im going through this trial. Logic Dive and Hangmans Gambit are kicking my ass. The questions arent even hard. Its everything else.
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The_Scarecrow posted...

I would have bet on Hiyoko making it until the end after Chapter 2. She was having character development due to Mahiru's death. I would have liked to see where it would have gone but oh well.

I would've gladly swapped Akane and Hiyoko. I did all of Akane's free time events and I still didn't see much of a personality.
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I missed a lot of details on that trial so I probably shouldn't play this game in the morning when I'm still partially asleep. At least Mikan was still the killer. I like how elaborate the killings and class trials have become. My only real complaint are some of the gameplay sections during the class trial. Improved Hangman's Gambit was fine in the first class trial but now, it's a little too much. I find it very annoying to have to wait for certain letters I need after a while and it's worse then two opposing letters clash barely BEFORE they're even on the screen for my to seperate them. I took damage when there wasn't much I could do.

I didn't like Mikan's execution. I thought it could have been better. It seems like Mikan's "beloved" is Junko if I had to guess since they're both all about despair and Junko died during the events of the first game. Future Foundation probably aren't the actual bad guys, either. Monokuma is misdirecting if I had to guess.

I don't really like Nekomaru's robotic transformation as well. I'm sure the antics will be fun but I think it would have been better if he died protecting Akane. Plus, he can't talk about shit anymore since he doesn't have to do that. How sad.

Lastly, I'm definitely going to miss some of the characters just killed off. Ibuki was the mood bringer of the group and she tried to keep everyone's spirits alive. Her absence will be felt. I didn't like Hiyoko all that much but her bants were top tier. That alone will make me miss her. Mikan's absence will be felt solely because she had one of the most useful and important Ultimate abilities out of all the students. Now, we don't have anyone to perform autopsies or make sure the rest of the gang ish healthy.

At least Sonia, Chiaki, and Kazuichi are still alive.

dave_is_slick posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

I would have bet on Hiyoko making it until the end after Chapter 2. She was having character development due to Mahiru's death. I would have liked to see where it would have gone but oh well.

I would've gladly swapped Akane and Hiyoko. I did all of Akane's free time events and I still didn't see much of a personality.

Akane does seem pretty boring. I haven't done any of her free time events. Not interested at all.
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The_Scarecrow posted...

Plus, he can't talk about shit anymore since he doesn't have to do that. How sad.

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As soon as I saw that Hiyoko was killed I was like Mikan is guilty. Lol she had more motive than anyone ese because of how badly Hiyoko always treated her. I know that thats dumb but I was 100% convinced of her guilt and it seemed even more obvious when you realize that she was the only person who couldve possibly let Ibuki out of the hospital
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The Popo posted...

The_Scarecrow posted...

Plus, he can't talk about shit anymore since he doesn't have to do that. How sad.

Those are words to live by. This man knew what was up.

Feline_Heart posted...

As soon as I saw that Hiyoko was killed I was like Mikan is guilty. Lol she had more motive than anyone ese because of how badly Hiyoko always treated her. I know that thats dumb but I was 100% convinced of her guilt and it seemed even more obvious when you realize that she was the only person who couldve possibly let Ibuki out of the hospital

Yeah, the case itself was pretty well thought out but you didn't even need half of the evidence to figure out it was Mikan lol.
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Honestly, case 3 threw me off pretty hard. I was very convinced that it was Gundham. You run into him in the parking lot right after the murder, and it seems clear that the murderer had to be around there to arrange the scene of the crime. I was convinced that you were running into Gundham as he was heading back to the scene to arrange things, so he was my #1 suspect for most of the trial.

In fairness, though, Mikan was my #2 suspect. She was pretty fishy.
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The only thing I'm going to take away from the fourth island at this point is that Sonia isn't a virgin unless she was joking.

dotsdfe posted...

Honestly, case 3 threw me off pretty hard. I was very convinced that it was Gundham. You run into him in the parking lot right after the murder, and it seems clear that the murderer had to be around there to arrange the scene of the crime. I was convinced that you were running into Gundham as he was heading back to the scene to arrange things, so he was my #1 suspect for most of the trial.

In fairness, though, Mikan was my #2 suspect. She was pretty fishy.

I could see that. If Mikan wasn't my #1, I would have probably went straight to Gundham. Nagito and Akane were out of it. I wouldn't want to believe that any of the others did it, either.
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Holy shit, it's the events of the first game in this file.
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I had no idea it was Mikan. They asked me who did it and my thoughts were "I'm supposed to know who did it?" That trial was great and one of my favorites.
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The_Scarecrow posted...

Holy shit, it's the events of the first game in this file.

The hairs on the back of my neck went up when that stuff came about. I loved the characters in the 1st game so much, I was like Oh shit, it wasnt just a stand alone game - theres a connection!
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