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burritosatan 05/13/19 3:18:09 PM #1:	https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-sex-education-california-20190510-story.html%3foutputType=amp California education officials have agreed on a sweeping new framework for sex education in the classroom, sparking intense debate about whether some of the proposals teacher material is too graphic and explicit. The guidance is meant for students in kindergarten through 12th grade, and though not a mandate, is intended to provide teachers with information to use in a sex education curriculum. The updated Health Education Curriculum Framework includes the suggested use of gender-neutral and LGBTQ-inclusive language, material on consent and sex-trafficking and the continued teaching of HIV prevention, which was enacted into law under the California Healthy Youth Act in 2016 "It's important to know the board is not trying to ban books. We're not saying that the books are bad," State Board of Education member Feliza I. Ortiz-Licon said. "But the removal will help avoid the misunderstanding that California is mandating the use of these books." Though the framework differentiates lessons for transitional kindergarten through third grade, fourth through sixth grade, seventh and eighth grade, and ninth through 12th grade, concerns over childrens ability to handle some material at the youngest ages have persisted The content in the new sex education curriculum is NOT age appropriate, petitioner Alice Lu wrote. --- You crawled and bled all the way but you were the only one... That was tearing your soul apart, you finally find yourself <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921843892] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-sex-education-california-20190510-story.html%3foutputType=amp California education officials have agreed on a sweeping new framework for sex education in the classroom, sparking intense debate about whether some of the proposals teacher material is too graphic and explicit. The guidance is meant for students in kindergarten through 12th grade, and though not a mandate, is intended to provide teachers with information to use in a sex education curriculum. The updated Health Education Curriculum Framework includes the suggested use of gender-neutral and LGBTQ-inclusive language, material on consent and sex-trafficking and the continued teaching of HIV prevention, which was enacted into law under the California Healthy Youth Act in 2016 "It's important to know the board is not trying to ban books. We're not saying that the books are bad," State Board of Education member Feliza I. Ortiz-Licon said. "But the removal will help avoid the misunderstanding that California is mandating the use of these books." Though the framework differentiates lessons for transitional kindergarten through third grade, fourth through sixth grade, seventh and eighth grade, and ninth through 12th grade, concerns over childrens ability to handle some material at the youngest ages have persisted The content in the new sex education curriculum is NOT age appropriate, petitioner Alice Lu wrote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 05/13/19 3:19:28 PM #2:	Hell no thats wayyy too early --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:921843940] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Hell no thats wayyy too early</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 3:19:30 PM #3:	Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921843946] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 05/13/19 3:19:52 PM #4:	Topic title doesn't match the article content. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:921843960] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evol 05/13/19 3:20:31 PM #5:	This is a good thing despite the outrage from the bigots and concern trolls. The lack of education has caused ignorance and animosity towards LGBTQ+ people. <cite>Evol posted [p:921843988] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>This is a good thing despite the outrage from the bigots and concern trolls. The lack of education has caused ignorance and animosity towards LGBTQ+ people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 05/13/19 3:20:43 PM #6:	Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young. --- "And you can't tell me what my spirit tells me isn't true, can you?" <cite>EverDownward posted [p:921843995] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 05/13/19 3:21:45 PM #7:	The23rdMagus posted... Topic title doesn't match the article content. Conservatives are literally incapable of arguing in good faith. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:921844025] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> Conservatives are literally incapable of arguing in good faith.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 05/13/19 3:21:45 PM #8:	EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young. --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:921844026] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/13/19 3:21:58 PM #9:	The23rdMagus posted... Topic title doesn't match the article content. I suggest reading the entire article --- You crawled and bled all the way but you were the only one... That was tearing your soul apart, you finally find yourself <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921844036] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> I suggest reading the entire article</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/13/19 3:24:39 PM #10:	HairyThotter posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:921844150] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>HairyThotter posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/13/19 3:26:02 PM #11:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed but not that one is too soon at that age all they need to respect each other bodies say "no" if an adult tries to touch them where they shouldnt and not be ashamed to speak up if someone does so they wont keep it a secret thats all they need to know --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921844211] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> but not that one is too soon at that age all they need to respect each other bodies say "no" if an adult tries to touch them where they shouldnt and not be ashamed to speak up if someone does so they wont keep it a secret thats all they need to know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 3:30:38 PM #12:	burritosatan posted... The23rdMagus posted... Topic title doesn't match the article content. I suggest reading the entire article That doesnt make you title accurate --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921844404] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> I suggest reading the entire article</quote> That doesnt make you title accurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/13/19 3:34:27 PM #13:	King_Hellebuyck posted... burritosatan posted... The23rdMagus posted... Topic title doesn't match the article content. I suggest reading the entire article That doesnt make you title accurate Which part is inaccurate? It's a new Sex Ed curriculum in California that soon will be taught to children as young as Kindergarten. It's also very controversial. --- You crawled and bled all the way but you were the only one... That was tearing your soul apart, you finally find yourself <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921844535] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> I suggest reading the entire article</quote> That doesnt make you title accurate</quote> Which part is inaccurate? It's a new Sex Ed curriculum in California that soon will be taught to children as young as Kindergarten. It's also very controversial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 05/13/19 3:34:28 PM #14:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time? --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:921844536] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/13/19 3:36:21 PM #16:	Kisai posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time? I believe most of the controversy is coming from the fact that we will be telling these children they can chose what gender they wish to be represented at which the message itself is perfectly fine but at the age of 4 they arent ready for that. Also many people believe that is a conversation best reserved for children and parent not state hired sex ed worker and group of young children. --- You crawled and bled all the way but you were the only one... That was tearing your soul apart, you finally find yourself <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921844593] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time?</quote> I believe most of the controversy is coming from the fact that we will be telling these children they can chose what gender they wish to be represented at which the message itself is perfectly fine but at the age of 4 they arent ready for that. Also many people believe that is a conversation best reserved for children and parent not state hired sex ed worker and group of young children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/13/19 3:36:54 PM #17:	burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... burritosatan posted... The23rdMagus posted... Topic title doesn't match the article content. I suggest reading the entire article That doesnt make you title accurate Which part is inaccurate? It's a new Sex Ed curriculum in California that soon will be taught to children as young as Kindergarten. It's also very controversial. There's actually nothing in the article that confirms that kindergarteners will be taught sex education. As you might have read there, there are other aspects of the curriculum to be taught and it's not all going to be taught at one level. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:921844612] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title doesn't match the article content.</quote> I suggest reading the entire article</quote> That doesnt make you title accurate</quote> Which part is inaccurate? It's a new Sex Ed curriculum in California that soon will be taught to children as young as Kindergarten. It's also very controversial.</quote> There's actually nothing in the article that confirms that kindergarteners will be taught sex education. As you might have read there, there are other aspects of the curriculum to be taught and it's not all going to be taught at one level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evol 05/13/19 3:37:17 PM #18:	This is the problem. By kindergarten I knew this: But I didnt know this: Not teaching about same-sex couples breeds a toxic environment for gay people, especially vulnerable gay youth and a whole lotta confusion. <cite>Evol posted [p:921844623] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>This is the problem. By kindergarten I knew this: But I didnt know this: Not teaching about same-sex couples breeds a toxic environment for gay people, especially vulnerable gay youth and a whole lotta confusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 05/13/19 3:37:24 PM #19:	Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:921844631] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 05/13/19 3:40:27 PM #20:	Kindergarten seems a bit early for that. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:921844729] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Kindergarten seems a bit early for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 05/13/19 3:43:28 PM #21:	philsov posted... Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well. Also, "It's wrong for people to touch you there and if some one does, you need to tell an adult what happened even if the person touching you tells you not to." Consent is an important concept for them to understand, even in typical kid contexts. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:921844829] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>philsov posted...</cite> <quote>Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well.</quote> Also, "It's wrong for people to touch you there and if some one does, you need to tell an adult what happened even if the person touching you tells you not to." Consent is an important concept for them to understand, even in typical kid contexts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 3:44:27 PM #22:	Kisai posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time? Those two things are inherently linked though. Young children are generally taught that gay people exist and how that means people of the same gender love each other. They arent shown porn like shrieking conservatives like to pretend. But you cant entirely separate its ok with relationships to exist between these people without some semblance of what a relationship means in that context. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921844855] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time?</quote> Those two things are inherently linked though. Young children are generally taught that gay people exist and how that means people of the same gender love each other. They arent shown porn like shrieking conservatives like to pretend. But you cant entirely separate its ok with relationships to exist between these people without some semblance of what a relationship means in that context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 05/13/19 3:45:49 PM #23:	Kindergarten is way too early. <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:921844901] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Kindergarten is way too early.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/13/19 3:47:22 PM #24:	Do people still think children don't understand what gender is? Feel this curriculum is much needed, with the acceptance of LGBTQ+ rising and the traditional education can confuse children who see their friend be picked up by 2 mommies/daddies, and help transitioning children be understood. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:921844950] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Do people still think children don't understand what gender is? Feel this curriculum is much needed, with the acceptance of LGBTQ+ rising and the traditional education can confuse children who see their friend be picked up by 2 mommies/daddies, and help transitioning children be understood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 3:50:11 PM #25:	Evol posted... This is the problem. By kindergarten I knew this: But I didnt know this: Not teaching about same-sex couples breeds a toxic environment for gay people, especially vulnerable gay youth and a whole lotta confusion. ElatedVenusaur posted... philsov posted... Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well. Also, "It's wrong for people to touch you there and if some one does, you need to tell an adult what happened even if the person touching you tells you not to." Consent is an important concept for them to understand, even in typical kid contexts. Yeah exactly, these are some good posts --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921845052] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Evol posted...</cite> <quote>This is the problem. By kindergarten I knew this: But I didnt know this: Not teaching about same-sex couples breeds a toxic environment for gay people, especially vulnerable gay youth and a whole lotta confusion.</quote> <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>philsov posted...</cite> <quote>Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial, but oh well.</quote> Also, "It's wrong for people to touch you there and if some one does, you need to tell an adult what happened even if the person touching you tells you not to." Consent is an important concept for them to understand, even in typical kid contexts.</quote> Yeah exactly, these are some good posts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 05/13/19 3:50:30 PM #26:	Sounds great. I dont think the kindergarten classes are going to be anything more than learning about different kinds of people and good touch bad touch sorts of things anyway, so I fail to see what the outrage would be about. --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:921845063] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Sounds great. I dont think the kindergarten classes are going to be anything more than learning about different kinds of people and good touch bad touch sorts of things anyway, so I fail to see what the outrage would be about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 05/13/19 3:55:00 PM #27:	Cool! Kindergardeners obviously would not get the same education that 4-6th graders would get. philsov posted... Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial Exactly. Kids should know that gay people exist, this is appropriate to tell children even if conservatives complain "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvCvvEbWR8" data-time=" --- Touch fuzzy get dizzy. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:921845215] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Cool! Kindergardeners obviously would not get the same education that 4-6th graders would get. <cite>philsov posted...</cite> <quote>Telling K-level kids "some boys feel like girls" and "gay people exist" should not be controversial</quote> Exactly. Kids should know that gay people exist, this is appropriate to tell children even if conservatives complain "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvCvvEbWR8" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 05/13/19 3:57:34 PM #28:	Social acceptance of people who exist is fine, but the way in which it is done often seems to be misguided. I think some of these programs try to go too in-depth for young children who may or may not still think it is possible to grow up to become a dragon. Starting off with "some people have two daddies or two mommies" should be as far as it goes that young. It's not the educators' responsibility to try to talk about personal identity to the children. <cite>nemu posted [p:921845306] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Social acceptance of people who exist is fine, but the way in which it is done often seems to be misguided. I think some of these programs try to go too in-depth for young children who may or may not still think it is possible to grow up to become a dragon. Starting off with "some people have two daddies or two mommies" should be as far as it goes that young. It's not the educators' responsibility to try to talk about personal identity to the children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 05/13/19 3:59:39 PM #29:	EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:921845380] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly.</quote> That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 05/13/19 4:00:56 PM #30:	IMNOTRAGED posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone. For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:921845421] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>IMNOTRAGED posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly.</quote> That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone.</quote> For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage;</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 05/13/19 4:02:51 PM #31:	Teaching kids about sex can prevent child abuse in a way. Because kids would now know how to avoid that situation. Keeping them ignorant to sex is how they get taken advantage of. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:921845498] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Teaching kids about sex can prevent child abuse in a way. Because kids would now know how to avoid that situation. Keeping them ignorant to sex is how they get taken advantage of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/13/19 4:06:39 PM #32:	I can certainly see the importance in teaching some aspects of sex education earlier. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921845637] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>I can certainly see the importance in teaching some aspects of sex education earlier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 4:07:36 PM #33:	s0nicfan posted... IMNOTRAGED posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone. For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; Lets put that in context: S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921845672] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IMNOTRAGED posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly.</quote> That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone.</quote> For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage;</quote></quote> Lets put that in context: <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 05/13/19 4:09:24 PM #34:	King_Hellebuyck posted... s0nicfan posted... IMNOTRAGED posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone. For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; Lets put that in context: S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal By the conservative group protesting the decision/program. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:921845738] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IMNOTRAGED posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly.</quote> That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone.</quote> For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage;</quote></quote> Lets put that in context: <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal</quote></quote> By the conservative group protesting the decision/program.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 4:12:16 PM #35:	s0nicfan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... s0nicfan posted... IMNOTRAGED posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone. For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; Lets put that in context: S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal By the conservative group protesting the decision/program. Nope, next paragraph is: "It's important to know the board is not trying to ban books. We're not saying that the books are bad," State Board of Education member Feliza I. Ortiz-Licon said. "But the removal will help avoid the misunderstanding that California is mandating the use of these books." --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921845842] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IMNOTRAGED posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly.</quote> That's too late. Education should start before hand so that kids know what to expect. Trying to shield them from "inappropriate material" that they have easy access to anyway much of the time doesn't benefit anyone.</quote> For example (from the article, but edited out of the TC's quote for some reason): <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage;</quote></quote> Lets put that in context: <quote>S.E.X.: The All-You-Need-to-Know Sexuality Guide to Get You Through Your Teens and Twenties, which includes descriptions of anal sex and bondage; and Changing You, which includes cartoon illustrations of female and male genitalia. Both books were recommended for removal</quote></quote> By the conservative group protesting the decision/program.</quote> Nope, next paragraph is: "It's important to know the board is not trying to ban books. We're not saying that the books are bad," State Board of Education member Feliza I. Ortiz-Licon said. "But the removal will help avoid the misunderstanding that California is mandating the use of these books."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/13/19 4:12:28 PM #36:	spudger posted... HairyThotter posted... EverDownward posted... Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young. They're not teaching kindergarten graphic sex or anything. And AFTER? You teach about puberty and sex BEFORE they're going through it/doing it, not after. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:921845852] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HairyThotter posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Save sex ed for puberty or later, honestly. I'm all for teaching the minds at an appropriate age about the different sexes and genders, but Kindergarten is way too young.</quote></quote></quote> They're not teaching kindergarten graphic sex or anything. And AFTER? You teach about puberty and sex BEFORE they're going through it/doing it, not after.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghetto_Turtle 05/13/19 4:12:47 PM #37:	Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY <cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted [p:921845870] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. <cite>PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY</cite></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/13/19 4:15:01 PM #38:	Ghetto_Turtle posted... Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921845957] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote>Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. <cite>PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY</cite></quote> Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 05/13/19 4:16:19 PM #39:	ITT - I, as someone who is not a teacher nor is responsible for teaching kids, says this is not appropriate. I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject? --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:921846010] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>ITT - I, as someone who is not a teacher nor is responsible for teaching kids, says this is not appropriate. I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghetto_Turtle 05/13/19 4:16:49 PM #40:	Tmaster148 posted... Ghetto_Turtle posted... Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job. No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/ Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject? So parents are just off the hook now? Shit pop em out and just let em go with as much responsibility is being expected from parents these days. <cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted [p:921846026] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote>Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. <cite>PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY</cite></quote> Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job.</quote> No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/ <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject?</quote> So parents are just off the hook now? Shit pop em out and just let em go with as much responsibility is being expected from parents these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mhbigboss 05/13/19 4:16:58 PM #41:	Teaching them while they're young is one thing, but come on. --- PSN NNID and Steam: hartzheim. 3DS FC: 0259 0369 7760 IGN: Mike <cite>mhbigboss posted [p:921846033] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Teaching them while they're young is one thing, but come on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 05/13/19 4:18:24 PM #42:	Ghetto_Turtle posted... No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/ <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:921846085] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote>No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 05/13/19 4:21:00 PM #43:	Ghetto_Turtle posted... Tmaster148 posted... Ghetto_Turtle posted... Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job. No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/ Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject? So parents are just off the hook now? Shit pop em out and just let em go with as much responsibility is being expected from parents these days. As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:921846174] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote>Sex ed in kindergarten? Are parents no longer a thing? This is out of control. <cite>PERSONAL FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY</cite></quote> Sex ed is important as proper sex ed helps reduce stds and teenage pregnancies. Parents (espically religious ones) have shown they can't handle this job.</quote> No problem with sex ed. I wouldn't teach it to 5 year olds. Stupid people are going to be stupid. \_()_/ <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "tranny" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject?</quote> So parents are just off the hook now? Shit pop em out and just let em go with as much responsibility is being expected from parents these days.</quote> As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghetto_Turtle 05/13/19 4:22:32 PM #45:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that. <cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted [p:921846230] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 05/13/19 4:24:30 PM #46:	Ghetto_Turtle posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that. If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont... --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:921846307] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that.</quote> If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghetto_Turtle 05/13/19 4:28:33 PM #47:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Ghetto_Turtle posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that. If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont... Good on you but that it terrifying. And I have no issues with teaching them what they need to know but WHEN they "need" to know it. <cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted [p:921846444] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that.</quote> If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont...</quote> Good on you but that it terrifying. And I have no issues with teaching them what they need to know but WHEN they "need" to know it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 05/13/19 4:28:53 PM #48:	It shouldn't be taught until 5th grade. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:921846461] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>It shouldn't be taught until 5th grade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 4:28:54 PM #49:	No one ever gets mad that we want teachers to teach kids math. Now tell me, whats going to be more important in a person's life? Math or sex? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921846463] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>No one ever gets mad that we want teachers to teach kids math. Now tell me, whats going to be more important in a person's life? Math or sex?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 05/13/19 4:29:31 PM #50:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Ghetto_Turtle posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that. If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont... I mean hopefully you're also engaging with the child study and/or child psych teams to let them know you've got kids who aren't being taken care of at home. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:921846491] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that.</quote> If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont...</quote> I mean hopefully you're also engaging with the child study and/or child psych teams to let them know you've got kids who aren't being taken care of at home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/13/19 4:30:06 PM #51:	Ghetto_Turtle posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Ghetto_Turtle posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking. I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that. If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont... Good on you but that it terrifying. And I have no issues with teaching them what they need to know but WHEN they "need" to know it. In general, its better to teach people things before they need to know it so that theyre prepared by the time they need to know it rather than having to guess the first time around. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921846522] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher I would fucking LOVE it if they were responsible for stuff. My experiences have shown me they are not in lots of ways. Being a teacher in a lot of ways is parenting too now. It is shocking.</quote> I mean fair enough but we should most certainly NOT play into that.</quote> If you dont, a lot of kids will never be prepared for adulthood. As much of a cliche as it is, I love teaching and I want all my students to be better prepared for adulthood when they leave my class. If that includes having to teach them about proper hygiene and eating habits because their parents dont...</quote> Good on you but that it terrifying. And I have no issues with teaching them what they need to know but WHEN they "need" to know it.</quote> In general, its better to teach people things before they need to know it so that theyre prepared by the time they need to know it rather than having to guess the first time around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 05/13/19 4:30:26 PM #52:	I did just skim through the op. I am absolutely for younger kids knowing that gay people exist and that its nothing they should be ashamed of. Get to puberty by forth grade and safe sex in middle school. Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... ITT - I, as someone who is not a teacher nor is responsible for teaching kids, says this is not appropriate. I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "t***" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject? I had my window open one night and heard the elementary school kids talking about sucking dick --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:921846541] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>I did just skim through the op. I am absolutely for younger kids knowing that gay people exist and that its nothing they should be ashamed of. Get to puberty by forth grade and safe sex in middle school. <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>ITT - I, as someone who is not a teacher nor is responsible for teaching kids, says this is not appropriate. I have kids as young as 5 asking me about what a blowjob is, and what being a "t***" means. (I know this word is offensive, thus the point of my post) Education is not about what you personally think is appropriate. It is about what we know the kids are wanting answers to. No I am not saying we need to teach 5 year olds about blowjobs. I'm saying that curious kids are going to get information on whatever they are curious about however they can. Would you rather a teacher address transgender issues, or have kids telling each other what it is, or going online to find who the hell knows what about the subject?</quote> I had my window open one night and heard the elementary school kids talking about sucking dick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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