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tremain07
05/12/19 10:29:27 AM
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Dude is completely costing on being Obama's second. Once he gets on stage and the media shows people much right wing shit he supports they'll effectively label him "boring trump" and keep the loudmouth asshole one in office instead.
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BignutzisBack
05/12/19 10:33:43 AM
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The corrupt Democratic party will suppress Bernie and Yang's chances in order to pick a stooge. Trump getting re-elected is all but guaranteed smh
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Doom_Art
05/12/19 10:33:52 AM
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I think defeating Trump requires a different strategy than Clinton used in 2016

Hillary's problem wasn't her platform or which faction of the party she belonged to, but rather the fact that she was uniquely disliked and had absolutely no charisma, coupled with the fact that her team had made the election about Trump. She didn't have her own message.

I would also note she herself was too afraid to knock him down a peg

I don't really get that vibe from the frontrunners (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Pete, etc) at the moment.
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1NfamousACE_2
05/12/19 10:38:16 AM
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Biden vs Trump will be a geriatric snore fest with elementary insults sprinkled in.

Same with Bernie.

Democrats need someone with charisma and can connect with the youth.
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UnfairRepresent
05/12/19 10:45:41 AM
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Trump is going to win

Everyone is talking about him non stop all the time. That's promotion you can't buy.

There will be 320 million people in America by the time the election happens and save for the newborn babies all of them will know who Trump is.

People like Biden or Buttface will pay hundreds of millions of dollars to hope that 100 million people know who they are

He's already won unless he dies or steps down
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ThyCorndog
05/12/19 10:46:20 AM
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Biden will not get the nomination
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AlephZero
05/12/19 10:46:45 AM
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as long as democrats don't nominate another centrist like bernie sanders
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Strider102
05/12/19 10:47:35 AM
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Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?
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1NfamousACE_2
05/12/19 10:48:56 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?


Might be more stupid tbqh
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wwefan2003
05/12/19 10:50:09 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

America is smarter which means President Trump will win again. Just look at President Trump's economy. He is the best President we've had since Reagan.
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UnfairRepresent
05/12/19 10:51:59 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.
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wwefan2003
05/12/19 10:54:56 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.

You are so right. Whenever a democrat calls me stupid for supporting President Trump I wear that insult with pride. I know where the insult is coming from and it has zero meaning.
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Doom_Art
05/12/19 10:58:31 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

I'm not predicting 2020

But

Take note of the fact that even with a (on paper at least) good economy, and no wars, Trump's approval tends to hang out in the low 40s/high 30s, when historically with these sorts of conditions it should be in the mid-upper 50s

Also that he has lost support in the last 3 years

And also that the states that delivered him victory in 2016 seemed to swing pretty decently towards the Democrats last year

He can totally win, but all this doesn't paint a very flattering picture
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Antifar
05/12/19 10:58:59 AM
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There's no reason to view Trump as a particularly strong candidate. That said, Biden seems intent on running as a continuation of Obama who seeks to distance Trump from the Republican Party in hopes of wooing moderate voters, which is a strategy that didn't work in 2016.
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Strider102
05/12/19 11:00:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.


I'm not on either side though.
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wwefan2003
05/12/19 11:03:23 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

I'm not predicting 2020

But

Take note of the fact that even with a (on paper at least) good economy, and no wars, Trump's approval tends to hang out in the low 40s/high 30s, when historically with these sorts of conditions it should be in the mid-upper 50s

Also that he has lost support in the last 3 years

And also that the states that delivered him victory in 2016 seemed to swing pretty decently towards the Democrats last year

He can totally win, but all this doesn't paint a very flattering picture

It's not a good economy on paper, it's an incredible economy for the average person that actually wants to make a living doing honest work, perhaps not so much for the sjws looking for more handouts. His approval numbers mean nothing as do any other poll. I don't care if you showed me a poll that said Trump was the favorite, it means nothing. He has gained a tremendous amount of support from people that sat out last election after the Kavanaugh and Russia report debacles. He is going to win big time.
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Broseph_Stalin
05/12/19 11:04:10 AM
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whos alt?
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DezDroppedFreak
05/12/19 11:05:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.

What will calling you a contrarian net me
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BignutzisBack
05/12/19 11:05:50 AM
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Doom_Art
05/12/19 11:06:10 AM
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wwefan2003 posted...
It's not a good economy on paper, it's an incredible economy for the average person that actually wants to make a living doing honest work, perhaps not so much for the sjws looking for more handouts. His approval numbers mean nothing as do any other poll. I don't care if you showed me a poll that said Trump was the favorite, it means nothing. He has gained a tremendous amount of support from people that sat out last election after the Kavanaugh and Russia report debacles. He is going to win big time.

why do trump supporters always sound like they're typing/reading from a script?

that whole mess you just made reads like something you just copy and pasted from somewhere else lol
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ThyCorndog
05/12/19 11:06:16 AM
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if you're against trump, it pretty much comes down to 1 of 2 things
you either
1) believe trump will defeat himself, and that the american people have "woken up" and regret not voting for hillary so therefore you bring in another centrist/moderate democrat type to sort of "try again"
or
2) believe doing the same thing again isn't going to win the election because trump isn't going to defeat himself, so you bring someone in that is totally different from what hillary represented
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Cheater87
05/12/19 11:07:44 AM
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Duh, the DNC is doing 2016 all over again.
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creativerealms
05/12/19 11:07:52 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Sadly no. The strength of our economy might enough for Trump to win. Especially if the democrats choose someone with no charisma.
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TheDrivingForce
05/12/19 11:08:28 AM
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In a perfect world, Yang will win it all. But in the end, with all the talk about the importance of diversity in America, most Americans just tend to not care about Asians. Full blooded ones, not mixed. It's either white, or black, and to a lesser extent, hispanic, most of the time.
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Doom_Art
05/12/19 11:08:43 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Duh, the DNC is doing 2016 all over again.

*tinfoil intensifies*
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Thompson
05/12/19 11:08:45 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The strength of our economy might enough for Trump to win.

There's still time for the tariffs to really start hurting.
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DepreceV2
05/12/19 11:08:49 AM
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Bernie REALLY needs to be the one
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GasMonkey
05/12/19 11:09:30 AM
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Strider102 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.


I'm not on either side though.

you see, trump supporters are so myopic and ignorant that they think they only way somebody could hate trump is if they are a democrat. small minded people tbh, never think past the surface of issues.....or really anything.
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Doom_Art
05/12/19 11:19:48 AM
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TheDrivingForce posted...
In a perfect world, Yang will win it all. But in the end, with all the talk about the importance of diversity in America, most Americans just tend to not care about Asians. Full blooded ones, not mixed. It's either white, or black, and to a lesser extent, hispanic, most of the time.

I mean it's almost like those ethnic groups are larger and more influential in elections or something

Regardless, Yang's relative unpopularity is hardly because of his race
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Strider102
05/12/19 11:20:41 AM
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GasMonkey posted...
Strider102 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.


I'm not on either side though.

you see, trump supporters are so myopic and ignorant that they think they only way somebody could hate trump is if they are a democrat. small minded people tbh, never think past the surface of issues.....or really anything.


When I saw it was coming down to Hillary and Trump, I just opted out. Neither side looked appealing to me.
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Coastal_elite
05/12/19 11:21:48 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Dude is completely costing on being Obama's second. Once he gets on stage and the media shows people much right wing shit he supports they'll effectively label him "boring trump" and keep the loudmouth asshole one in office instead.


He will lose. Because the socialists and people who want free college and all sorts of gibs won't vote for him, they would only vote for Bernie.

He will lose, because everyone who wanted Kamala to win or Abrahams won't vote for Biden.

He will lose, because all feminists who idolize Alyssa Milano and her sex strike won't vote for him, they would only vote for Gillibrand or maybe Warren.

He will lose, because all of the people who want their candidate to be a "cool d00d" who can do "sick burns" and dance the floss and other fortnight dances won't vote for him, just like they didn't will Hillary.

So trump 2020 it is, because the demographics above don't give a fuck about the "very fine people" comment, the "heil trump" dinner, the baby concentration camps, the "heartbeat law" bills, and rampant nepotism and the russia catering. Gibs, "being woke", "c00l stuff", ovary-surpremacism and idological purity, that's the only thing they care about.
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Coastal_elite
05/12/19 11:23:32 AM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Bernie REALLY needs to be the one


Nothing like a jewish frail old man preaching socialism to entice rust belt, blue collar white males that voted trump in 2016!!!! </sarcasm>
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andel
05/12/19 11:24:56 AM
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trump will lose no matter who is opponent is and the 2018 midterms gave us a window into what the nation now thinks of trump, which is very little.

i hope biden isnt the nominee but if he is he will stomp trump
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ScazarMeltex
05/12/19 11:27:06 AM
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It's not a great economy for anyone except the people at the top of the pyramid. Yes corporate profits are up, yes the stock market is up. Wage growth is just as stagnant now as it has been for years. Which means I'm making no more money than I was 10 years ago when adjusted for inflation but my corporate master is making millions more.
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ThyCorndog
05/12/19 11:27:06 AM
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Coastal_elite posted...
tremain07 posted...
Dude is completely costing on being Obama's second. Once he gets on stage and the media shows people much right wing shit he supports they'll effectively label him "boring trump" and keep the loudmouth asshole one in office instead.


He will lose. Because the socialists and people who want free college and all sorts of gibs won't vote for him, they would only vote for Bernie.

He will lose, because everyone who wanted Kamala to win or Abrahams won't vote for Biden.

He will lose, because all feminists who idolize Alyssa Milano and her sex strike won't vote for him, they would only vote for Gillibrand or maybe Warren.

He will lose, because all of the people who want their candidate to be a "cool d00d" who can do "sick burns" and dance the floss and other fortnight dances won't vote for him, just like they didn't will Hillary.

So trump 2020 it is, because the demographics above don't give a fuck about the "very fine people" comment, the "heil trump" dinner, the baby concentration camps, the "heartbeat law" bills, and rampant nepotism and the russia catering. Gibs, "being woke", "c00l stuff", ovary-surpremacism and idological purity, that's the only thing they care about.

he will lose because his record is as corporate democrat as you can get. you make it sound like being a progressive is a bad thing
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Coastal_elite
05/12/19 11:31:42 AM
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andel posted...
trump will lose no matter who is opponent is and the 2018 midterms gave us a window into what the nation now thinks of trump, which is very little.

i hope biden isnt the nominee but if he is he will stomp trump


This is a very, very dangerous train of thought.

He won 2016 back when it was still taboo to be openly proud about bigotry. He won 2016 DESPITE the fact that Russia couldn't intervene as much as they would have liked. He won 2016 DESPITE the fact that voter suppression and intimidation had to be a little bit subtle. He won 2016 despie the fact that his cult wasn't so brainwashed as they're now. And he won 2016 despite the fact that he was NOT in the government back then.

Newsflash, now he is president, now he has SCOTUS and the senate by the balls, now he can turn a blind eye towards russian interference and actually foster voter suppression and intimidation. How on earth can he lose?

This sort of complacency costed Hillary 2016
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Coastal_elite
05/12/19 11:33:46 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
tremain07 posted...
Dude is completely costing on being Obama's second. Once he gets on stage and the media shows people much right wing shit he supports they'll effectively label him "boring trump" and keep the loudmouth asshole one in office instead.


He will lose. Because the socialists and people who want free college and all sorts of gibs won't vote for him, they would only vote for Bernie.

He will lose, because everyone who wanted Kamala to win or Abrahams won't vote for Biden.

He will lose, because all feminists who idolize Alyssa Milano and her sex strike won't vote for him, they would only vote for Gillibrand or maybe Warren.

He will lose, because all of the people who want their candidate to be a "cool d00d" who can do "sick burns" and dance the floss and other fortnight dances won't vote for him, just like they didn't will Hillary.

So trump 2020 it is, because the demographics above don't give a fuck about the "very fine people" comment, the "heil trump" dinner, the baby concentration camps, the "heartbeat law" bills, and rampant nepotism and the russia catering. Gibs, "being woke", "c00l stuff", ovary-surpremacism and idological purity, that's the only thing they care about.

he will lose because his record is as corporate democrat as you can get. you make it sound like being a progressive is a bad thing


See, broccoli might not be Kobe Beef. But it's not a shit sandwich either.

"Corporate democrat" record >>>>>>>> "blood & soil" alt right catering "very fine people on both sides", family separation record.

But nooooooooo, not being able to dance the floss, that's the straw that broke the camel's back huh?
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COVxy
05/12/19 11:34:02 AM
#38:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Strider102 posted...
Trump gonna lose. America is smarter now.

....right?

Calling Trump supporters stupid is not going to help your side win the election.


You're right, we don't have to call them stupid, but find a way to appeal to their stupidity.
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andel
05/12/19 11:34:33 AM
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not today rod, not today
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TheDrivingForce
05/12/19 11:39:35 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
In a perfect world, Yang will win it all. But in the end, with all the talk about the importance of diversity in America, most Americans just tend to not care about Asians. Full blooded ones, not mixed. It's either white, or black, and to a lesser extent, hispanic, most of the time.

I mean it's almost like those ethnic groups are larger and more influential in elections or something

Regardless, Yang's relative unpopularity is hardly because of his race


No, they just don't care. And it doesn't just happen in politics in particular, but spread further about. If you're an Asian, you're either a comedy troupe, martial artist, a fetish, or the people that made anime, and video games.
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BlueBoy675
05/12/19 11:40:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I think defeating Trump requires a different strategy than Clinton used in 2016

Hillary's problem wasn't her platform or which faction of the party she belonged to, but rather the fact that she was uniquely disliked and had absolutely no charisma, coupled with the fact that her team had made the election about Trump. She didn't have her own message.

I would also note she herself was too afraid to knock him down a peg

I don't really get that vibe from the frontrunners (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Pete, etc) at the moment.

I still believe that it was all in the slogan.

Trump: Make America Great Again!

Hillary: Its Her Turn!

Trump made it about America. Hillary made it about herself. To quote Mr. Plinkett, you may not have noticed it, but your brain did.

Obviously there was a lot more to it, but I believe the slogan was a huge part
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COVxy
05/12/19 11:41:55 AM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
you may not have noticed it, but your brain did.


Unfortunately for you, your brain noticed nothing.
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wwefan2003
05/12/19 12:32:30 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
wwefan2003 posted...
It's not a good economy on paper, it's an incredible economy for the average person that actually wants to make a living doing honest work, perhaps not so much for the sjws looking for more handouts. His approval numbers mean nothing as do any other poll. I don't care if you showed me a poll that said Trump was the favorite, it means nothing. He has gained a tremendous amount of support from people that sat out last election after the Kavanaugh and Russia report debacles. He is going to win big time.

why do trump supporters always sound like they're typing/reading from a script?

that whole mess you just made reads like something you just copy and pasted from somewhere else lol

Because facts never change, that's why they're called facts.
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Antifar
05/12/19 12:51:53 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
I still believe that it was all in the slogan.

Trump: Make America Great Again!

Hillary: Its Her Turn!

That was never Hillary's slogan. Even "I'm With Her" got phased out for "Stronger Together" in the general
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HypnoCoosh
05/12/19 1:01:32 PM
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All I know is I didn't vote in 2016 because I believed no one could beat Hillary just like the media wanted me to believe.

You bet your ass I'm voting for Trump 2020.
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wwefan2003
05/12/19 1:05:50 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
All I know is I didn't vote in 2016 because I believed no one could beat Hillary just like the media wanted me to believe.

You bet your ass I'm voting for Trump 2020.

You are so right. All the "polls" are rigged by the liberal elites.
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BlueBoy675
05/12/19 1:12:54 PM
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Antifar posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
I still believe that it was all in the slogan.

Trump: Make America Great Again!

Hillary: Its Her Turn!

That was never Hillary's slogan. Even "I'm With Her" got phased out for "Stronger Together" in the general

True, but somehow Its Her Turn became what was most associated with her. Unfortunate for her.
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1NfamousACE_2
05/12/19 2:25:15 PM
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The man said he could walk into times square and shoot someone in the face and they would still vote for him.

That's officially a cult
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iClockwork
05/12/19 2:29:08 PM
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andel posted...
trump will lose no matter who is opponent is

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andel
05/12/19 2:33:34 PM
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trumpists trying to reassure themselves that their historically unpopular president has a chance lmao
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