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Strider102
05/12/19 5:11:41 PM
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Would Daniel Bryan have won the WWE Championship at WM30 if people didn't complain?


Yes! Yes! Yes!
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 5:12:10 PM
#153:


What you said was factually wrong. You've spent the last day arguing that it wasn't. That is absolutely desperation for validation, but if you want to be wrong about that too go for it.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:18:32 PM
#154:


Conflict posted...
Would Daniel Bryan have won the WWE Championship at WM30 if people didn't complain?

Nope but he would have won it eventually I believe and this is one of those rare occasion where people truly appreciated what they demanded where 80% of the time people cry for the sake of crying.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:20:23 PM
#156:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
What you said was factually wrong. You've spent the last day arguing that it wasn't. That is absolutely desperation for validation, but if you want to be wrong about that too go for it.

Its not factually wrong. Saying youre part of a demographic that feels a certain way literally implies youre part of an agreed mass. Hope we finally cleared that out. And youre free to disagree. I wont need you to admit youre wrong unlike you.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:21:27 PM
#157:


Conflict posted...
Ok well you see the value of voicing criticism then

If there's no voice the devs or writers are going to feel like they're doing the right thing

Youre miasing the point. Theres a difference between real feedback vs tamper tantrums.
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 5:23:49 PM
#158:


Veggeta X posted...
Saying youre part of a demographic that feels a certain way literally implies youre part of an agreed mass.


Yes. It does not, however, imply that you speak for the entire demographic, particularly when it's someone else saying "this guy is part of that demographic."

What you said was factually wrong whether you admit it or not.
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Malcrasternus
05/12/19 5:25:58 PM
#159:


Forgot how easy it was to troll CE.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:31:08 PM
#161:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Saying youre part of a demographic that feels a certain way literally implies youre part of an agreed mass.


Yes. It does not, however, imply that you speak for the entire demographic, particularly when it's someone else saying "this guy is part of that demographic."

What you said was factually wrong whether you admit it or not.

Just because you disagree with me does not make a fact. The point was he was tryna empower his argument by saying theres a bunch of people on his side. You missed that point entirely and took it as far as you did.
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 5:38:43 PM
#162:


Veggeta X posted...
Just because you disagree with me does not make a fact.


It's not a fact because I disagree with you. It's a fact because you failed to substantiate the claim in the first place. I'm just the messenger.

Veggeta X posted...
The point was he was tryna empower his argument by saying theres a bunch of people on his side.


No. The point was that being part of the target demographic gives them cause to speak up. At literally no point did anyone itt presume to speak for the entirety of the demographic, and again, I invite you to quote the text that demonstrates otherwise.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:41:31 PM
#163:


A claim that has to meet your standard in order to be correct. Sorry but that is not fact.

Youre still not understanding implications here
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 5:45:04 PM
#164:


Youre argument here is if no one literally said it then it cant be true
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 5:51:23 PM
#166:


Veggeta X posted...
A claim that has to meet your standard in order to be correct. Sorry but that is not fact.

Youre still not understanding implications here


What "standards" of mine? We're discussing basic English here. The standard is English language and basic definitions of words. No one said or implied that they spoke for the voice of millions. I keep challenging you to quote the text and you keep deflecting. Why is that?
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 6:15:30 PM
#167:


I already did quoted it. Why are you being purposely obtuse?
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 6:22:25 PM
#168:


Veggeta X posted...
I already did quoted it. Why are you being purposely obtuse?


And I explained that you're wrong. Here, read it again.

TrevorBlack79 posted...
The point was that being part of the target demographic gives them cause to speak up. At literally no point did anyone itt presume to speak for the entirety of the demographic, and again, I invite you to quote the text that demonstrates otherwise.


If you're so certain about DOF's meaning why don't you go ahead and tag him to clarify.

Also, you originally said "you guys need to stop acting like the voice of millions." Guys. Multiple. You need more than a single quote. You currently have 0.
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Veggeta X
05/12/19 8:17:06 PM
#169:


Its wrong because YOU said so? Please.

Yes two people were implying that. Stop acting so obtuse on purpose. You are still stuck on this. Hilarious. Youve gone so far from the point of this topic. Let it go.
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TrevorBlack79
05/12/19 8:21:56 PM
#170:


Veggeta X posted...
Its wrong because YOU said so? Please.


No. It's wrong because no one said or implied what you said they did and you have yet to demonstrate otherwise.

Veggeta X posted...
Yes two people were implying that.


Quote them and tag them so they can tell you you're wrong.
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 8:17:48 AM
#171:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
It's wrong because no one said or implied what you said they did and you have yet to demonstrate otherwise.

Except they DID imply it. You just don't agree with it. Accept this, buddy. This is not something to grate over. Let it go.

TrevorBlack79 posted...
Quote them and tag them so they can tell you you're wrong.

Before we continue I want you to answer these. Have you asked yourself why this is so important to you? What about this trivial minor shit that's gotten you to go so far that you HAVE to be right? This has been so far gone from the main point but you've taken is far.
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TrevorBlack79
05/13/19 9:12:45 AM
#172:


Veggeta X posted...
Except they DID imply it. You just don't agree with it.


They objectively did not, end of discussion. You're just reading what you want to read.

Veggeta X posted...
Have you asked yourself why this is so important to you?


Dude, you just bumped this shit after 12 hours. It would have purged and been forgotten in another 12. Answer that question for yourself. I'm done.
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MedeaLysistrata
05/13/19 9:14:33 AM
#173:


Is TC even selling a product?

How do I solicit complaints for attention seeking behaviour?
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 9:28:36 AM
#174:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
You're just reading what you want to read.

And you're just reading what YOU want to read. DO you not know what disagreements are?

Here is your awful logic:

Person 1: I see it this way
You: No, I see it this way. Your way is factually wrong because I said so. Your proof is not good enough for me so therefore you are 100% wrong.

TrevorBlack79 posted...
I'm done.

I bet you're not.

MedeaLysistrata posted...
Is TC even selling a product?

How do I solicit complaints for attention seeking behaviour?

Hello
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MedeaLysistrata
05/13/19 9:37:20 AM
#175:


Veggeta X posted...
Hello

Hey, what are the themes that drive your topics?

Do you have to have an opinion on new comers?
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Dragonblade01
05/13/19 9:38:22 AM
#176:


I don't see an issue. Company does something. Some people complain. Company decides if it's worth the change. That's all there is to it.
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 11:49:09 AM
#177:


You guys are implying that any or all feedback is logical and reasonable.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/13/19 1:25:16 PM
#178:


You're implying that any and all criticism of media is a temper tantrum.
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 1:41:43 PM
#179:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
You're implying that any and all criticism of media is a temper tantrum.

Let this be on the record. There are such thing as reasonable good feedback.
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LightHawKnight
05/13/19 1:46:59 PM
#181:


Do people want more Fallout 76s and Anthems?
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DarkChozoGhost
05/13/19 1:57:33 PM
#182:


Veggeta X posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
You're implying that any and all criticism of media is a temper tantrum.

Let this be on the record. There are such thing as reasonable good feedback.

Posting a photoshop of how live action Sonic would look better is reasonable good feedback
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 2:20:09 PM
#183:


"It'll probably suck" is not good feedback.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/13/19 6:48:47 PM
#184:


"The design for Sonic is awful, and it would be easy to fix in this simple way" is good feedback
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 6:51:32 PM
#185:


Good thing this topic isnt exclusive to Sonic
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DarkChozoGhost
05/13/19 6:58:21 PM
#186:


But you did condemn that specific criticism of Sonic.
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 7:13:27 PM
#187:


I was condemning the extreme irrational whining.
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LightHawKnight
05/13/19 7:14:07 PM
#188:


Veggeta X posted...
I was condemning the extreme irrational whining.


Like what you are doing?
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Veggeta X
05/13/19 7:15:01 PM
#189:


LightHawKnight posted...
Veggeta X posted...
I was condemning the extreme irrational whining.


Like what you are doing?

I love complaining about complainers especially if they are whiny as fuck
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DarkChozoGhost
05/13/19 9:57:17 PM
#190:


Veggeta X posted...
I was condemning the extreme irrational whining.

What irrational whining? The majority of people said that designed sucked, but few people were outraged over it. Most were laughing.
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Veggeta X
05/14/19 8:02:35 AM
#191:


Of course you'd think there's no such thing as temper tantrum cry babies.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
05/14/19 9:26:46 AM
#192:


when mortal kombat 11 released on pc last march, it wouldn't even launch for a number of people. i guess that minority should have just shut up and enjoyed their unplayable game
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DarkChozoGhost
05/14/19 11:11:10 AM
#193:


Veggeta X posted...
Of course you'd think there's no such thing as temper tantrum cry babies.

Strawman
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