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DarkRoast
05/11/19 10:09:17 AM
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https://kotaku.com/fans-are-concerned-about-barrets-voice-in-the-final-fan-1834678296

Plus something about stereotypes

I just want to point out that you can basically go on a date with Barrett sooooooooo
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FF_Redux
05/11/19 10:10:40 AM
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BignutzisBack
05/11/19 10:11:19 AM
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DarkRoast
05/11/19 10:11:48 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Ff17 isn't out, marked


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Alpha218
05/11/19 10:12:50 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Ff17 isn't out, marked

Tc has gone too far this time...
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CyricZ
05/11/19 10:14:05 AM
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Y'know I think it's a little early to call from a teaser what Barrett's characterization is going to end up being in this new version of the game.

As we've had topics about, there are a LOT of questionable things in original FF7 that we're wondering if will be in the remake.

Then again, if Kotaku doesn't get years out in front on this, who will? >_>
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DevsBro
05/11/19 10:15:20 AM
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*shrugs*

They're entitled to stupid opinions just like everyone else is.

And you're entitled to ignore them completely.
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DarkRoast
05/11/19 10:17:04 AM
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DevsBro posted...
*shrugs*

They're entitled to stupid opinions just like everyone else is.

And you're entitled to ignore them completely.


I like to believe Barrett is a bear and has a thing for Cloud <3
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TheDrivingForce
05/11/19 10:18:01 AM
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And people are upset with Kotaku's toxic stupidity.
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Tyranthraxus
05/11/19 10:21:00 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Ff17 isn't out, marked

It will be before the FF7 remake so I don't see what the big deal is
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Gary_Busey
05/11/19 10:23:06 AM
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Who cares about Kotaku?
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RoseLuck462
05/11/19 10:25:16 AM
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Is his voice too deep?
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Leanaunfurled
05/11/19 10:33:41 AM
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I have to wonder, even if his voice is like...stereotypical, plenty of black guys do naturally sound like that. There are all kinds of normal voices, some of which are stereotypical and some aren't. So are some off limits for media usage, I guess? Do they tell these people with natural stereotype voices irl if they could stop talking like that, or what?

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Umbreon
05/11/19 10:34:53 AM
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"Kotaku says some dumb shit to mine for reaction clicks."
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DarkRoast
05/11/19 10:41:49 AM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
I have to wonder, even if his voice is like...stereotypical, plenty of black guys do naturally sound like that. There are all kinds of normal voices, some of which are stereotypical and some aren't. So are some off limits for media usage, I guess? Do they tell these people with natural stereotype voices irl if they could stop talking like that, or what?

What's important for me is how fleshed out as a character they are.


He looks pretty swole to me
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thronedfire2
05/11/19 10:43:34 AM
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I always imagined Barrett with Mr Ts voice while playing the original game
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chrono625
05/11/19 10:45:06 AM
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Ive never played Final Fantasy VII, and because of that, Im interested in the remake. When it came out, the PlayStation was my older brothers console, and I wasnt allowed to touch it, as he (rightfully) feared Id break it or mess up his saves. Eventually I was old enough to be trusted not to destroy a console, but by then, the game was much harder to find.


Author never played FF7 so they never saw Barretts original dialogue either.

And FF7 was never, at any point in time, difficult to get.

It's been re-released God knows how many times.
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assassingriskel
05/11/19 10:57:13 AM
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The localization changed Barrett in the actual JP script he speaks fairly normally not like a white persons belief on how a black man should speak
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DarkRoast
05/11/19 10:58:31 AM
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assassingriskel posted...
The localization changed Barrett in the actual JP script he speaks fairly normally not like a white persons belief on how a black man should speak


Nobody speaks normally in JRPGs
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obeseexplosive
05/11/19 11:58:12 AM
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assassingriskel posted...
The localization changed Barrett in the actual JP script he speaks fairly normally not like a white persons belief on how a black man should speak

How do white people believe black people should speak?
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creativerealms
05/11/19 11:59:39 AM
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Who cares.
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yusiko
05/11/19 12:01:47 PM
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people have been making fun of barret for being a walking stereotype for years
nothing new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTLwLS8YHPY" data-time="

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yusiko
05/11/19 12:02:32 PM
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plus on his date he tells cloud to stay away from marlene

so its less romantic and more barret seems convinced cloud is a pedophile
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Damn_Underscore
05/11/19 12:14:40 PM
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"Kotaku is upset"
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Machete
05/11/19 12:26:15 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I always imagined Barrett with Mr T?s voice while playing the original game

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NonDairyMiltank
05/11/19 12:34:02 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Kotaku is scraping the barrel again to squeeze out one more article no one asked for.

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Esrac
05/11/19 12:38:14 PM
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I absolutely do not believe the article's suggestion that any noteworthy number of fans are "concerned" about Barrett's voice in that trailer.
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DarkRoast
05/11/19 12:40:48 PM
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Esrac posted...
I absolutely do not believe the article's suggestion that any noteworthy number of fans are "concerned" about Barrett's voice in that trailer.


Standard bad journalism tactic.

Replace "I am" with "People are" to give it more legitimacy.
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TheDrivingForce
05/11/19 12:55:24 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I always imagined Barrett with Mr Ts voice while playing the original game

To me, he had Mike Tyson's voice.
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SoraOwnsOctopus
05/11/19 1:01:23 PM
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Why is Kotaku on such a roll for the most mentally challenged articles in the span of a month? >_>
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SoraOwnsOctopus
05/11/19 1:02:02 PM
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Esrac posted...
I absolutely do not believe the article's suggestion that any noteworthy number of fans are "concerned" about Barrett's voice in that trailer.

I'm just sad that it sounds like they replaced Jet's voice from the previous trailer >_>
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TheDrivingForce
05/11/19 1:03:07 PM
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SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
Why is Kotaku on such a roll for the most mentally challenged articles in the span of a month? >_>

Gotta make that ad money to pay the loans on all the worthless courses they took in college.
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DirkDiggles
05/11/19 1:04:42 PM
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Writers a Kotaku offended at something again? How surprising...
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ACHEEKSMALLOY
05/11/19 1:04:42 PM
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Kotaku is still around?
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AmericaTheBrave
05/11/19 1:09:33 PM
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I knew it. Once FF7 remake comes out, expect dozens of articles from gaming "journalists" about how "problematic" FF7 is.
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Esrac
05/11/19 1:09:49 PM
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TheDrivingForce posted...
SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
Why is Kotaku on such a roll for the most mentally challenged articles in the span of a month? >_>

Gotta make that ad money to pay the loans on all the worthless courses they took in college.


Now that you say that, after a quick googling of the author's name, one of the first hits was an interview with her from a couple years ago in which she mentions credit card companies calling her every day for the money she owes them.
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SoraOwnsOctopus
05/11/19 1:25:54 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
I knew it. Once FF7 remake comes out, expect dozens of articles from gaming "journalists" about how "problematic" FF7 is.

This better not fucking affect Tifa's glorious rack
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rikasa
05/11/19 1:38:55 PM
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I liked the twitter viddie they posted w/ the black preacher
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Tyranthraxus
05/11/19 1:57:03 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
I knew it. Once FF7 remake comes out, expect dozens of articles from gaming "journalists" about how "problematic" FF7 is.

Nobody is waiting for the remake to do that. People have been whining about Aerith's fridging for years.
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nemu
05/11/19 2:34:54 PM
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I don't get why all the game journalists think people really care about this stuff.
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FrisbeeDude
05/11/19 2:42:35 PM
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It is kinda lame they kept him the same tbh
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MortimerBrewstr
05/11/19 2:51:43 PM
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SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
I knew it. Once FF7 remake comes out, expect dozens of articles from gaming "journalists" about how "problematic" FF7 is.

This better not fucking affect Tifa's glorious rack


I couldn't agree more.
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nesplayer
05/11/19 2:56:46 PM
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Is there a cid?
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Ricemills
05/11/19 3:08:59 PM
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TheDrivingForce posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I always imagined Barrett with Mr Ts voice while playing the original game

To me, he had Mike Tyson's voice.


lately I imagine him with Sam L Jackson's voice.
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The-Apostle
05/11/19 3:15:05 PM
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FF17? I didn't even know FF16 was out. >_>
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SailorGoon
05/11/19 3:19:58 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I always imagined Barrett with Mr Ts voice while playing the original game

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Foppe
05/11/19 3:20:18 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I just want to point out that you can basically go on a date with Barrett sooooooooo

What if they remove that?
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_Krave_
05/11/19 3:22:19 PM
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Ive never played Final Fantasy VII


Stopped reading it there.
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VerisimiIitude
05/11/19 3:28:36 PM
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This game is in quite a position. No matter what they do to the original game, every scene, mechanic, feature, (altered or unchanged) is going to be met with scrutiny and negativity in some fashion. I cant imagine there being a way for this game to be seen in a positive light. Certainly not the way the original is/was regarded or even how some of the more successful remakes in recent memory have accomplished this.

Its something to talk about at least...
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