Poll of the Day > I wish Naruto was Rock Lee

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NeoSioType
05/10/19 7:52:32 PM
#1:


Naruto was presented as a loser/outcast but he was secretly very gifted.

Rock Lee was a disabled ninja that was trying to find a way to get ahead by doing his own thing.
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keyblader1985
05/10/19 9:38:06 PM
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You read/watched Kenichi? He's basically a loser with zero talent that has to give 1000 percent just to survive.
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Broken_Zeus
05/10/19 10:40:58 PM
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Naruto was presented as a loser/outcast but he was secretly very gifted.
Naruto wasn't very gifted, he was host to a monster that gave him massive amounts of chakra... and coincidentally was the exact reason he was an outcast in the first place. He was a terrible ninja who put in a lot of effort to overcome his shortcomings.

Also, Rock Lee literally had his own show... and it was glorious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy_v9Q8Tqt4" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy_v9Q8Tqt4&list=PLs_EmScEHlpeeyRX-RJsdauC_glqi-MGa
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JOExHIGASHI
05/10/19 10:42:56 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
Naruto wasn't very gifted, he was host to a monster that gave him massive amounts of chakra... and coincidentally was the exact reason he was an outcast in the first place. He was a terrible ninja who put in a lot of effort to overcome his shortcomings.

The monster was what let him over come his short comings. He's also the reincarnation of the son of the sage of six paths.
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Broken_Zeus
05/10/19 11:07:31 PM
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Oh, plus with the exception of Itachi and maybe Orochimaru, nobody was really shown to be a genius. Almost all of them were shown to have failed early on, whether it was Sasuke failing to measure up to Itachi, Naruto failing to measure up to Sasuke, Rock Lee struggling to keep up with Neji, or Neji attempting to prove himself.

Within the context of the show, Rock Lee is himself hardly exceptional. Even his gimmick of being a one-trick ninja is mirrored by other ninja who honed one specific style while having no mastery of others.

JOExHIGASHI posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
Naruto wasn't very gifted, he was host to a monster that gave him massive amounts of chakra... and coincidentally was the exact reason he was an outcast in the first place. He was a terrible ninja who put in a lot of effort to overcome his shortcomings.

The monster was what let him over come his short comings. He's also the reincarnation of the son of the sage of six paths.


The monster was also responsible for most of those shortcomings. He grew up without parents to guide him *because* they were killed when the monster attacked his village. He was ostracized and fell into bad habits *because* he was the monster's host. The monster's chakra frequently interfered with his own and the monster's attempts to take over his body put certain limits on his combat ability.
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VeeVees
05/10/19 11:14:17 PM
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Ya, no. Naruto is the literally a descendant of god and trained by several of the most powerful ninjas ever. He even has a cheat mode to train at 100x speed that only he can use.
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JOExHIGASHI
05/10/19 11:33:27 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
Oh, plus with the exception of Itachi and maybe Orochimaru, nobody was really shown to be a genius. Almost all of them were shown to have failed early on, whether it was Sasuke failing to measure up to Itachi, Naruto failing to measure up to Sasuke, Rock Lee struggling to keep up with Neji, or Neji attempting to prove himself.

Within the context of the show, Rock Lee is himself hardly exceptional. Even his gimmick of being a one-trick ninja is mirrored by other ninja who honed one specific style while having no mastery of others.

JOExHIGASHI posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
Naruto wasn't very gifted, he was host to a monster that gave him massive amounts of chakra... and coincidentally was the exact reason he was an outcast in the first place. He was a terrible ninja who put in a lot of effort to overcome his shortcomings.

The monster was what let him over come his short comings. He's also the reincarnation of the son of the sage of six paths.


The monster was also responsible for most of those shortcomings. He grew up without parents to guide him *because* they were killed when the monster attacked his village. He was ostracized and fell into bad habits *because* he was the monster's host. The monster's chakra frequently interfered with his own and the monster's attempts to take over his body put certain limits on his combat ability.

End result Kyuubi was a net gain to him power wise
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Broken_Zeus
05/11/19 12:06:40 AM
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VeeVees posted...
Ya, no. Naruto is the literally a descendant of god


As are countless others.

VeeVees posted...
and trained by several of the most powerful ninjas ever.


...which isn't an argument for any innate genius.

VeeVees posted...
He even has a cheat mode to train at 100x speed that only he can use.


Which he learned through mastery of one particular jutsu, basically the same way that Rock Lee progressed by sticking to one path.

JOExHIGASHI posted...
End result Kyuubi was a net gain to him power wise


Which is why he's not some secret genius.
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Behaviorism
05/11/19 12:26:12 AM
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Naruto gains knowledge and experience from every single clone he makes. That hardly seens fair. I'm in the camp that he should have lost to Neji. I can MAYBE see him beating Kiba, but not Neji.

I mean get serious. The guy who specializes in sight loses because of sight. Fuck outta here
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JOExHIGASHI
05/11/19 12:27:50 AM
#10:


Broken_Zeus posted...

JOExHIGASHI posted...
End result Kyuubi was a net gain to him power wise


Which is why he's not some secret genius.

Nope but he does have lots of innate power
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Kyuubi4269
05/11/19 12:43:48 AM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
Oh, plus with the exception of Itachi and maybe Orochimaru, nobody was really shown to be a genius.

Shikamaru.
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Broken_Zeus
05/11/19 1:09:12 AM
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Behaviorism posted...
Naruto gains knowledge and experience from every single clone he makes. That hardly seens fair.


Which isn't much different from anybody else exploiting their specialized technique, etc.

Behaviorism posted...
I'm in the camp that he should have lost to Neji. I can MAYBE see him beating Kiba, but not Neji.

I mean get serious. The guy who specializes in sight loses because of sight. Fuck outta here


...which is what happens when you let your guard down and underestimate your opponent.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
Oh, plus with the exception of Itachi and maybe Orochimaru, nobody was really shown to be a genius.

Shikamaru.


Well, that's a different kind of genius. And his jutsu mastery is relatively unimpressive.
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jramirez23
05/11/19 2:41:54 AM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
Naruto was presented as a loser/outcast but he was secretly very gifted.
Naruto wasn't very gifted, he was host to a monster that gave him massive amounts of chakra... and coincidentally was the exact reason he was an outcast in the first place. He was a terrible ninja who put in a lot of effort to overcome his shortcomings.

That really reminds me of this 40 minute video that I watched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tkz92eG_E" data-time="

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RedPixel
05/11/19 8:19:18 AM
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Pervy Sensei... RIP
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NeoSioType
05/11/19 4:11:40 PM
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lol, ninja in a construction worker outfit.
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The_tall_midget
05/11/19 4:26:27 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
As are countless others.

...which isn't an argument for any innate genius.

Which he learned through mastery of one particular jutsu, basically the same way that Rock Lee progressed by sticking to one path.

Which is why he's not some secret genius.


All of your idiotic arguments are countered in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tkz92eG_E" data-time="

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SunWuKung420
05/11/19 4:42:27 PM
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I love Naruto.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/11/19 6:07:26 PM
#18:


drunk rock lee (dubbed) is great
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Smiffwilm
05/11/19 8:10:54 PM
#19:


He married Hinata. He's Rock Lee where it counts.
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The_tall_midget
05/11/19 8:21:13 PM
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jramirez23 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tkz92eG_E" data-time="


Plagueofgripes is great and 100% in this case.
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