| Topic List |
Page List:
1, 2 |
|---|---|
|
DepreceV2 05/10/19 4:58:17 PM #1: |
This should be interesting after the returns we saw up to 1995
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics/democrats-subpoena-trump-tax-returns/index.html --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Mark_DeRosa 05/10/19 4:58:48 PM #2: |
Who fucking cares
I literally have 0 interest in that or anyones returns --- Steve Nash | 13| Phoenix Suns | PPG: 16.9 | RPG: 3.60 | APG 11.3 | EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Doom_Art 05/10/19 4:59:24 PM #3: |
I love it
It's not even about finding out about shady shit (though that's important and there's plenty of it already) but the humiliation is lovely as well --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
John_Galt 05/10/19 4:59:39 PM #4: |
This time!
--- Who is John Galt? ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
UnfairRepresent 05/10/19 4:59:40 PM #5: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Who fucking cares Everyone who cares about America Which is millions of people, sad that you are not one of them --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
DepreceV2 05/10/19 5:00:00 PM #6: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Who fucking cares You should if it sheds some light on things that might be illegal. --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Mark_DeRosa 05/10/19 5:01:29 PM #7: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...Who fucking cares What exactly does gain and help America in if you care so much about it? Boost ratings for networks to talk about 24/7 Funny you guys care so much about America but what exactly do you do for it??? --- Steve Nash | 13| Phoenix Suns | PPG: 16.9 | RPG: 3.60 | APG 11.3 | EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Smashingpmkns 05/10/19 5:02:18 PM #8: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Mark_DeRosa posted... Pay taxes. --- Clean Butt Crew ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
DemonBuffet 05/10/19 5:03:49 PM #9: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mark_DeRosa posted... Hold criminals accountable for their crimes, regardless of their profession. --- Trololol ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
littlebro07 05/10/19 5:04:49 PM #10: |
Wonder how much money the greatest businessman in the world lost this time
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Unsugarized_Foo 05/10/19 5:05:06 PM #11: |
Hope they just find he did everything legally, or his accountants really. I doubt hes ever done taxes
--- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Blade-wolf 05/10/19 5:05:43 PM #12: |
For what purpose
--- hustler ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:05:43 PM #13: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
What exactly does that gain and help America in if you care so much about it? exposing the PotUS for the liar and fraud he really is would be wonderful for this country --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
ElatedVenusaur 05/10/19 5:05:46 PM #14: |
This one will be ignored like all the rest, I'm sure.
... Copied to Clipboard!
|
| #15 | Post #15 was unavailable or deleted. |
|
Mark_DeRosa 05/10/19 5:06:25 PM #16: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...What exactly does that gain and help America in if you care so much about it? Just like everything else right lol --- Steve Nash | 13| Phoenix Suns | PPG: 16.9 | RPG: 3.60 | APG 11.3 | EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:06:36 PM #17: |
Blade-wolf posted...
For what purpose to prove that the leader of the free world is not indebted to any foreign powers, for one. kinda like how Trump got a loan from Russia for a billion dollars in the mid 90s because he literally bankrupted a casino with his utter lack of business sense. --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
DemonBuffet 05/10/19 5:07:50 PM #18: |
Conflict posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mark_DeRosa posted...Who fucking cares What do you expect from a manlet whose never been in a fight in his life? --- Trololol ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Blade-wolf 05/10/19 5:08:21 PM #19: |
Still on the Russia stuff are we
--- hustler ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Mark_DeRosa 05/10/19 5:08:46 PM #20: |
DemonBuffet posted...
Conflict posted...Mark_DeRosa posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mark_DeRosa posted...Who fucking cares Lol what, everybody on this board knows Im literally the fucking police lol. Thats a stupid post --- Steve Nash | 13| Phoenix Suns | PPG: 16.9 | RPG: 3.60 | APG 11.3 | EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:09:23 PM #21: |
Blade-wolf posted...
Still on the Russia stuff are we Trump was over a billion in debt and the Russians bailed him out. This is how he made a come back Trump was first compromised by the Russians back in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money and it continued for decades. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger. In 1984, David Bogatin a Russian mobster, convicted gasoline bootlegger, and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992) Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster, and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years. Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management. Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump real estate for decades to launder money. That means Russian Mafia operatives have been part of his fortune for years, that many of them have owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties, that they were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel. (Mogilevich's role today is unclear). (cont) --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:09:39 PM #22: |
One of the most important things that is often overlooked is that the Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. that is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.
From Craig Unger's AMA: "Early on, a source told me that all this was tied to Semion Mogilevich, the powerful Russian mobster. I had never even heard of him, but I immediately went to a database that listed the owners of all properties in NY state and looked up all the Trump properties. Every time I found a Russian sounding name, I would Google, and add Mogilevich. When you do investigative reporting, you anticipate drilling a number of dry holes, but almost everyone I googled turned out to be a Russian mobster. Again and again. If you know New York you don't expect Trump Tower to be a high crime neighborhood, but there were far too many Russian mobsters in Trump properties for it to be a coincidence." So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was living at Trump Tower. According to a Bloomberg investigation (March 16, 2017) into Trump World Tower, a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states. In July 2008, the height of the recession, Donald Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value. In 2013, Federal agents busted an ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. In addition to card games, they operated illegal gambling websites, ran a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a sophisticated money-laundering scheme connected to Semion Mogilevich. Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive under his tenure in the Southern District and Mayor. And now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuiani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties tot he Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob. A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnel got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money. At the Cityscape USAs Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets." Eric Trump told James Dodson, a golf reporter, in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because We dont rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. (cont) --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:10:25 PM #23: |
Outcomes that show Trump is taking orders from Putin:
At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies started making a strong push for a resolution that would justify their countrys 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse an 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. The Putinists goal was to pass the resolution by Feb. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. And out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan. Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. "I don't care, I believe Putin" Trump met in secret with Putin the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria. As a note, Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed. Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies. He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events. . Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe with impunity. The US already has all the weaponry that the INF would ban the development of, so this offers us literally nothing, while allowing Russia to develop powerful new weapons to challenge our allies. And of course, Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, a move so catastrophically stupid, so inconceivably cosmically myopic, I truly can't express the profundity of the idiocy. Suffice to say, pulling out of NATO would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason, suddenly giving the people with crude homemade shivs complete power. In summation: Trump was $4 billion in debt and the Russians bailed him out. --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Blade-wolf 05/10/19 5:12:00 PM #24: |
Mueller looked at all that though. There's nothing there.
--- hustler ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:13:26 PM #25: |
Blade-wolf posted...
Mueller looked at all that though. There's nothing there. only if you trust the severely censored/redacted version of the report Barr let us read. why do you think Trump is so against Mueller testifying before Congress? and why do you think Mueller wrote and published a letter to Barr saying Barr's version of the report was total bullshit? --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
0AbsoluteZero0 05/10/19 5:14:06 PM #26: |
DepreceV2 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...Who fucking cares Not even just things that are necessarily straight up illegal. Revealing potential conflicts of interest is important when it comes to the president as well. If speculation that Trump is heavily indebted to Russian banks turns out to be correct, that is absolutely a concern as he might then be dealing with Russian matters - sanctions, for instance - in a way that is favorable to his personal interests, at the expense of the country as a whole. --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Doom_Art 05/10/19 5:14:24 PM #27: |
@Giant_Aspirin this is why I don't really bother treating Trump supporters seriously. You put effort into something and they basically ignore it.
Making fun of and belittling them accomplishes just as much, takes less effort, and entertains me --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
friendbuddypal 05/10/19 5:14:29 PM #28: |
This will be the end of drumpf.
--- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Blade-wolf 05/10/19 5:14:32 PM #29: |
*sighs*
--- hustler ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
friendbuddypal 05/10/19 5:15:41 PM #30: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Blade-wolf posted...Mueller looked at all that though. There's nothing there. I think you've got your facts mixed up. You should research this topic a little more before you start arguing with people. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
BLAKUboy 05/10/19 5:15:45 PM #31: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
This one will be ignored like all the rest, I'm sure. Then the sitting President of the United States will be held in contempt of Congress. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Giant_Aspirin 05/10/19 5:17:20 PM #32: |
friendbuddypal posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...Blade-wolf posted...Mueller looked at all that though. There's nothing there. it'd be really swell of you to point out what i got wrong instead of just saying im wrong. Blade-wolf posted... *sighs* you and me both --- Playing: Dragon Quest XI, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Machete 05/10/19 5:18:22 PM #33: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Mark_DeRosa posted... Rekt --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
King_Hutton 05/10/19 5:23:16 PM #34: |
BLAKUboy posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...This one will be ignored like all the rest, I'm sure. Which means essentially nothing --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
friendbuddypal 05/10/19 5:29:58 PM #35: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
friendbuddypal posted...Giant_Aspirin posted...Blade-wolf posted...Mueller looked at all that though. There's nothing there. Mueller said that Barr's initial letter caused confusion from the media regarding the context of the investigation, not that the released report was misleading. Mueller flat out states that the introduction and executive summary of the report accurately summarize his findings. Those parts of the report are available for the public to see. Mueller never said that Barr's release of the report was "total bullshit," he said that Barr's letter didn't fully characterize the context of the investigation. Pretty huge difference here. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
UnfairRepresent 05/10/19 5:32:30 PM #36: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
You're the police but you don't care about people commiting crimes? Ok... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
| #37 | Post #37 was unavailable or deleted. |
|
s0nicfan 05/10/19 5:35:42 PM #38: |
So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next?
--- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
friendbuddypal 05/10/19 5:38:45 PM #39: |
s0nicfan posted...
So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? They're still on the report and will be until 2020. Come election day in a few years we're going to see the news reporting things like "Mueller scratched his nose with his LEFT hand, signalling that indictments against Trump LEFT his office but were shut down by the corrupt government!" --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
UnfairRepresent 05/10/19 5:38:48 PM #40: |
s0nicfan posted...
So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? The other 14 weird as fuck possibly illegal shit Trump has done. This is a weird defense. It's a very lazy dismissal of valid criticisms and potential issues. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
littlebro07 05/10/19 5:39:34 PM #41: |
s0nicfan posted...
So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? Depends on what other stuff Trump decides to act guilty as fuck over for no reason Maybe he's doing it on purpose now --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
friendbuddypal 05/10/19 5:39:39 PM #42: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
The other 14 weird as f*** possibly illegal s*** Trump has done. Such as? UnfairRepresent posted... It's a very lazy dismissal of valid criticisms and potential issues Such as? --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
s0nicfan 05/10/19 5:40:37 PM #43: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
s0nicfan posted...So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure there will be plenty of valid criticisms of his ability to run a business and how much he's really worth versus what he claims he's worth. HOWEVER, let's not pretend this sudden re-focus on taxes after nearly 2 years of almost no mention of them has nothing to do with the fact that the mueller report failed to drudge up sufficiently damning evidence to prove that he colluded with Russia. The very fact that posters in this topic are outlining the play for how they're hoping to tie his finances to the Russian government to weave some sort of narrative is proof of it. The issue isn't finding things to criticize... it's digging desperately for a smoking gun. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
King_Hutton 05/10/19 5:45:42 PM #44: |
s0nicfan posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...s0nicfan posted...So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? Democrats have been promising to go after his tax returns if they took back the House since 2016. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
lightwarrior78 05/10/19 5:46:05 PM #45: |
s0nicfan posted...
So what's the next big thing going to be for taking down Trump? The report was supposed to be it, but now it's the hope that maybe his tax returns are hiding something the report didn't find. When that isn't it either, what will people turn to next? By the time there done on the taxes they'll have no choice but to push to win for 2020. Shame they'll have blown a lot of time, energy and political capital that might have been served on that goal rather than getting everyone to hate the bad man the way they do. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
UnfairRepresent 05/10/19 5:57:48 PM #46: |
s0nicfan posted...
HOWEVER, let's not pretend this sudden re-focus on taxes after nearly 2 years of almost no mention of them Wut People have not been shutting up about Trump's taxes since he annouced he was running for president Da fuck are you on about? has nothing to do with the fact that the mueller report failed to drudge up sufficiently damning evidence to prove that he colluded with Russia. The very fact that posters in this topic are outlining the play for how they're hoping to tie his finances to the Russian government to weave some sort of narrative is proof of it. The issue isn't finding things to criticize... it's digging desperately for a smoking gun. Wut 1. You've not read the Muller report. 2. Going "People are only pointing out his ties to Russia to link the report to taxes!" is a really really really dumb and lazy evasion of blatant financial ties to Russia. This is such a bad defense.. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
s0nicfan 05/10/19 6:00:48 PM #47: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
1. You've not read the Muller report. Neither have you, but that doesn't stop you and others from arguing that even though in MUELLER'S OWN WORDS there was no collusion, that somehow there must be collusion, and that smoking gun you were hoping for must be in his tax returns. That somehow these "blatant financial ties" paint some crystal clear picture that Mueller must have missed when he spend the last couple of years investigating all of this. Mueller must be pretty incompetent to come to the conclusion he did when you are so very confident in your own conclusion. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
UnfairRepresent 05/10/19 6:08:44 PM #48: |
s0nicfan posted...
Which is why I am not making claims such as "Mueller report failed to drudge up sufficiently damning evidence to prove that he colluded with Russia." You however are. s0nicfan posted... but that doesn't stop you and others from arguing that even though in MUELLER'S OWN WORDS there was no collusion, that somehow there must be collusion, and that smoking gun you were hoping for must be in his tax returns. Mueller literally never said that... No matter how many caps you use. BILL GATES OWN WORDS he likes to lick dogs asses. In fact he literally said "Collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law, "There is no such clear cut crime as 'Collusion'" and "There was no collusion" are not the same statement dude. Mueller said a lot of shit about the Trump Administration directly working with Russia and was unhappy with Barr's summary of his findings. You simutaniously making direct statements about exactly what is in the Mueller report that you never read and then being dishonest as fuck while aggressive calls your entire attitude into question. Trump isn't your dad. You don't need to take valid concerns about his criminality and ability to be president as personal slights you need to lie about --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
Malcrasternus 05/10/19 6:09:52 PM #49: |
... Copied to Clipboard!
|
|
s0nicfan 05/10/19 6:13:57 PM #50: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
In fact he literally said "Collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law, You're hyper focusing on the choice of the word collusion, but the conclusion of the report (as stated by Mueller's full quotes from the report not Barr's summary) are functionally the same. What he literally said was: In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of collusion. In so doing, the Office recognized that the word collud[e] was used in communications with the Acting Attorney General confirming certain aspects of the investigations scope and that the term has frequently been invoked in public reporting about the investigation. But collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. For those reasons, the Offices focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law. He also said this: Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities. So use whatever words you personally want to use: Do you believe the Mueller report was inconclusive with regard to Trump and Russia's direct interactions with regard to the election? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
| Topic List |
Page List:
1, 2 |
