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King_Hutton
05/10/19 3:52:43 PM
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Is the meat industry inherently immoral? - Results (36 votes)
Yes
41.67% (15 votes)
15
No
58.33% (21 votes)
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JoeDangIt
05/10/19 3:54:47 PM
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As immoral as any other industry.
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ThyCorndog
05/10/19 3:56:34 PM
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depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life
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friendbuddypal
05/10/19 3:57:28 PM
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Nah.
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Duncanwii
05/10/19 3:58:57 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:00:21 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life


Okay well plants are alive and I see vegans killing them with no moral compass
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:04:04 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

Protein doesnt only come from meat.
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:05:12 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
Duncanwii posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

Protein doesnt only come from meat.


Broccoli has protein!! Which is cool but the problem is youd need to eat about $80 worth to get the same amount of protein from a damn can of tuna.
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ThyCorndog
05/10/19 4:09:05 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

protein comes from plants. the protein in your beef is actually from the plants the cows ate. in a modern, developed country you only need meat because you're used to it or like it or the convenience of it. it's not a necessity anymore, so that's where the question of morality comes in. I'd never call it immoral to eat meat if you're deserted on some island and have no other choice

burritosatan posted...
Okay well plants are alive and I see vegans killing them with no moral compass

plants don't have emotions and also if you just directly ate plants you're killing less plants than if you eat meat, because animals need to eat a ton of plants as they're getting raised for you to eat
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:09:43 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Duncanwii posted...
It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

protein comes from plants. the protein in your beef is actually from the plants the cows ate. in a modern, developed country you only need meat because you're used to it or like it or the convenience of it. it's not a necessity anymore, so that's where the question of morality comes in. I'd never call it immoral to eat meat if you're deserted on some island and have no other choice

burritosatan posted...
Okay well plants are alive and I see vegans killing them with no moral compass

plants don't have emotions and also if you just directly ate plants you're killing less plants than if you eat meat, because animals need to eat a ton of plants as they're getting raised for you to eat

Ya and God made animals taste good for a reason so checkmate
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WaterLink
05/10/19 4:10:20 PM
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*takes bite of burger*

Sure, but tastes good bro
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:11:06 PM
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burritosatan posted...
King_Hutton posted...
Duncanwii posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

Protein doesnt only come from meat.


Broccoli has protein!! Which is cool but the problem is youd need to eat about $80 worth to get the same amount of protein from a damn can of tuna.

Youre counting tuna as part of the meat industry?
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Paragon21XX
05/10/19 4:11:57 PM
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Humans survive best with having some meat in their regular diets. Vegans are totally delusional if they seriously believe that their diets are anywhere near one-size-fits-all like normal diets that contain meat.
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:12:57 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Duncanwii posted...
It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

protein comes from plants. the protein in your beef is actually from the plants the cows ate. in a modern, developed country you only need meat because you're used to it or like it or the convenience of it. it's not a necessity anymore, so that's where the question of morality comes in. I'd never call it immoral to eat meat if you're deserted on some island and have no other choice

Its also worthy noting that eating meat is not necessarily the same as eating factory farmed meat.
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Machete
05/10/19 4:12:58 PM
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Inherently? No.
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:13:29 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
burritosatan posted...
King_Hutton posted...
Duncanwii posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

Protein doesnt only come from meat.


Broccoli has protein!! Which is cool but the problem is youd need to eat about $80 worth to get the same amount of protein from a damn can of tuna.

Youre counting tuna as part of the meat industry?


Oh sorry I forgot tuna is a vegetable
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JoeDangIt
05/10/19 4:14:13 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
JoeDangIt posted...
As immoral as any other industry.

The chalk industry murders billions of animals?

I don't know for sure but I feel it's safe to assume animals are at least displaced and indirectly killed when mining for limestone to make chalk.
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:18:37 PM
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burritosatan posted...
King_Hutton posted...
burritosatan posted...
King_Hutton posted...
Duncanwii posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
depends if you value animal life or not. that's really all it comes down to since morality is subjective. I personally think it's immoral to take any life unnecessarily, not just human life

It is necessary. Despite what Vegan Zealots might tell you, the human body needs meat. Protean. Theres no way around it.

Protein doesnt only come from meat.


Broccoli has protein!! Which is cool but the problem is youd need to eat about $80 worth to get the same amount of protein from a damn can of tuna.

Youre counting tuna as part of the meat industry?


Oh sorry I forgot tuna is a vegetable

You alright? Because this is a weird response.
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:20:29 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
JoeDangIt posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
JoeDangIt posted...
As immoral as any other industry.

The chalk industry murders billions of animals?

I don't know for sure but I feel it's safe to assume animals are at least displaced and indirectly killed when mining for limestone to make chalk.


Yup...all kinds of human activity winds up killing animals. For example, people who drive their cars all year round likely wind up running over a rabbit or squirrel or something every now and then.

That's why it's tough for vegetarians to try and take the moral high ground.

I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us
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Doe
05/10/19 4:20:43 PM
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Humans are one type of animal

Civilization has been built on the bodies of billions if not trillions of animal individuals human and otherwise whose identities have been wiped from record.
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Doe
05/10/19 4:21:56 PM
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burritosatan posted...
I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us

I assume these such responses are trolling
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:28:06 PM
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Doe posted...
burritosatan posted...
I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us

I assume these such responses are trolling


Murder is murder. Who gets to decide what life is more important
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ThyCorndog
05/10/19 4:30:24 PM
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burritosatan posted...
Doe posted...
burritosatan posted...
I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us

I assume these such responses are trolling


Murder is murder. Who gets to decide what life is more important

intention matters a lot
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burritosatan
05/10/19 4:33:18 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
burritosatan posted...
Doe posted...
burritosatan posted...
I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us

I assume these such responses are trolling


Murder is murder. Who gets to decide what life is more important

intention matters a lot


Okay well I didnt murder the cow nor did I intended to but I'm hungry and it's on sale so how the immoral I cant bring it back
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Doe
05/10/19 4:33:38 PM
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I think that's a pretty contrived scenario considering that someone who does not want to eat meat is probably more informed about their daily actions that may result in the harm of animals. Regardless of the rest of their lives, one of them is in fact consciously choosing not to eat meat for moral reasons. Going vegetarian is one of the few ways someone can actually exert some control over the amount of harm done to other animals besides, like, terrorism.
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:36:09 PM
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Doe posted...
burritosatan posted...
I bet vegetarians step on ants by accident all the time. So they are no better than us

I assume these such responses are trolling

I sure hope so.
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SpudForce
05/10/19 4:42:34 PM
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If by immoral you mean savory and delicious when grilled then yes.
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PMarth2002
05/10/19 4:47:27 PM
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Inherently no. There's nothing wrong with eating meat.

Now you can certainly argue against the unethical practices of the meat industry.
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ThyCorndog
05/10/19 4:48:51 PM
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we're evolved to be opportunistic eaters, like other great apes. we can survive just fine on plants alone like our ape cousins. before they were smart enough to invent hunting tools, the only meat our primate ancestors ate were insects and scavenged meat. the only times we ever really had meat heavy diets are today (since the invention of factory farming) and whenever we were nomadic in tundra or desert climates where there's no vegetation (which was very rare and a niche thing. the ice age is heavily romanticized as a major part of our evolution when it really wasn't that long of a period overall)
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 4:54:39 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Inherently no. There's nothing wrong with eating meat.

Now you can certainly argue against the unethical practices of the meat industry.

Thats why I phrased it specifically about the meat industry rather than about eating meat.
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Smashingpmkns
05/10/19 4:55:49 PM
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No but factory farming is immoral and I'm sure in the next 20 years we will look back at it as genocide.
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a-c-a-b
05/10/19 5:12:54 PM
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"In relation to them. All people are Nazis. For the animals it is an eternal Treblinka" Isaac Bashevis Singer
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King_Hutton
05/10/19 5:16:32 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
No but factory farming is immoral and I'm sure in the next 20 years we will look back at it as genocide.

What would a moral meat industry look like to you?
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Smashingpmkns
05/10/19 6:04:06 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
No but factory farming is immoral and I'm sure in the next 20 years we will look back at it as genocide.

What would a moral meat industry look like to you?


Probably more humane practices instead of shit like stuffing a shit ton of chickens in one area without cages and calling it free range. Or having cows constantly pregnant, resulting in pus filled udders and other health issues, in order to produce milk. Or shit like beakless chickens, cows living their whole lives not being able to stand, pigs living in their own shit etc.

Basically putting morality over profitability at some point would be beneficial to the industry in the long run.
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Doe
05/10/19 6:14:30 PM
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A moral meat industry really depends on your view of nature's morality and if that's acceptable. On some ends there cant be a moral meat industry unless it's all lab-grown
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sevihaimerej
05/10/19 6:15:20 PM
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This is necessary...life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life
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