Board 8 > So it's almost legal to trip balls in Denver

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Obellisk
05/09/19 9:16:01 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2019/05/08/denver-psychedelic-magic-mushroom/amp/

I don't even understand how this kind of thing happens.
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pxlated
05/09/19 9:17:09 PM
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Maybe because they've been proven to have a lot of mental health benefits?

What reason is there for them to be illegal anyway?
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redrocket
05/09/19 9:22:40 PM
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pxlated posted...
What reason is there for them to be illegal anyway?


Gotta keep feeding that Prison Industrial Complex.
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Obellisk
05/09/19 9:23:41 PM
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pxlated posted...
Maybe because they've been proven to have a lot of mental health benefits?

What reason is there for them to be illegal anyway?


Them being a hallucinogen isn't enough?
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Chuck_Tingle
05/09/19 9:24:59 PM
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Obellisk posted...
pxlated posted...
Maybe because they've been proven to have a lot of mental health benefits?

What reason is there for them to be illegal anyway?


Them being a hallucinogen isn't enough?

...no?
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pxlated
05/09/19 9:25:00 PM
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Obellisk posted...
pxlated posted...
Maybe because they've been proven to have a lot of mental health benefits?

What reason is there for them to be illegal anyway?


Them being a hallucinogen isn't enough?


...no?

Why in the world is that a reason for it to be illegal?
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pxlated
05/09/19 9:25:20 PM
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God damnit nfun
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Chuck_Tingle
05/09/19 9:25:43 PM
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get owned nerd
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SwiftyDC
05/09/19 9:25:50 PM
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I'm OK with this.

Weed and shrooms should be legal.
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Obellisk
05/09/19 9:30:53 PM
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I mean, color me ignorant, I guess.

But my experiences with them certainly left me with a feeling that they shouldnt be more accessible than they are.
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SwiftyDC
05/09/19 9:36:03 PM
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Obellisk posted...
I mean, color me ignorant, I guess.

But my experiences with them certainly left me with a feeling that they shouldnt be more accessible than they are.


The first time is always the scariest. I don't know, just gotta go with the flow and remember that it's something that will pass if anything gets too intense. I've had some great experiences. You also have to be around the right company. Day tripping at the beach or camping is great. Just don't eat the whole bag.
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foolm0r0n
05/09/19 9:42:11 PM
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Obellisk posted...
I don't even understand how this kind of thing happens.

Look up when they were made illegal in the first place
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foolm0r0n
05/09/19 9:43:19 PM
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Also look up prohibition and Al Capone
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redrocket
05/09/19 9:45:35 PM
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Also look up Funguy from Chrono Cross.
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pxlated
05/09/19 9:59:48 PM
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Lots of people have bad experiences with alcohol but that isn't illegal or hard to get

Tobacco literally kills people but that isn't illegal or hard to get
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INCEPTlON
05/09/19 10:02:18 PM
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I jumped 3 over a balcony and fell 3 stories after tripping on 6 grams like an idiot.

I also live in CO.

Time to finish the job
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pxlated
05/09/19 10:09:12 PM
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INCEPTlON posted...
I jumped 3 over a balcony and fell 3 stories after tripping on 6 grams like an idiot.

I also live in CO.

Time to finish the job


1) that's a huge dose
2) people do this shit and worse drunk
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Obellisk
05/09/19 10:10:43 PM
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pxlated posted...
Lots of people have bad experiences with alcohol but that isn't illegal or hard to get

Tobacco literally kills people but that isn't illegal or hard to get

Neither of those have any/any significant health benefits, unlike mushrooms.


Thats quite a stretch.

Tobacco doesn't distort your reality, which is just not safe.

I've seen some pretty bad trips, not my bad trips, but dealt with others.
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foolm0r0n
05/09/19 10:16:50 PM
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Obellisk posted...
I've seen some pretty bad trips, not my bad trips, but dealt with others.

You should try dealing with some alcohol and tobacco addicts
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foolm0r0n
05/09/19 10:19:30 PM
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I can imagine if you know a bunch of mushroom psychonauts but have never seen any drunk or smoking people in your life, it would seem crazy that mushrooms would be legalized

But I would also suggest leaving whatever hippy cult commune you've been living in
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bryans7
05/09/19 10:28:49 PM
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When I drive for lyft, I've gotten offered lots of stuff. Weed sometimes, which I can understand. But once a guy offered me LSD. And not like to sell to me, like "let's do some LSD right now." The whole situation was weird. He was driving to a hospital far away, and said he was going to see his Grandma, but it was midnight and also he had LSD with him. Anyways I told him no.
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Obellisk
05/09/19 10:30:44 PM
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Those tobaccy fiends scare me.
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TomNook
05/09/19 10:57:22 PM
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bryans7 posted...
When I drive for lyft, I've gotten offered lots of stuff. Weed sometimes, which I can understand. But once a guy offered me LSD. And not like to sell to me, like "let's do some LSD right now." The whole situation was weird. He was driving to a hospital far away, and said he was going to see his Grandma, but it was midnight and also he had LSD with him. Anyways I told him no.

Wow, those grade school classes were right. Guess people will offer you drugs nonstop as an adult.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 12:35:04 AM
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ZvqyDIXV9jT0VCVU5nSDB3R3c/view?usp=drivesdk

Thats what 3 stories and a bad trip will do to you.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 12:36:32 AM
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So, Im against recreational legalization. I can be alright with medicinal as long as the checks are comprehensive for qualifying conditions.

If someone tries the shit without knowing what it can do, they can fuck you up.
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foolm0r0n
05/10/19 12:42:37 AM
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How did that happen to you if it wasn't legalized?
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Raka_Putra
05/10/19 12:46:42 AM
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Obellisk posted...
Tobacco doesn't distort your reality, which is just not safe.

Should VR gaming be banned too?
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 12:47:34 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
How did that happen to you if it wasn't legalized?


Same way people smoked weed and got high before it was legalized.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 12:48:56 AM
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The people who need it should be able to get
It and use it. I just want their to be proper education on the stuff.
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foolm0r0n
05/10/19 12:51:12 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...
Same way people smoked weed and got high before it was legalized.

So how does that make you against legalization? You think buying it on the black market leads to safer and more knowledgeable consumption?
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 1:01:44 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
INCEPTlON posted...
Same way people smoked weed and got high before it was legalized.

So how does that make you against legalization? You think buying it on the black market leads to safer and more knowledgeable consumption?


Not in the slightest.

But way way way less people are going out there and buying Shrooms illegally than they are weed. Shrooms are as easy to come by and I dont believe there have been any statistical trends of people consuming more shrooms over recent years. I cant pretend to have dedicated too much time to studying it though and Im not against being proven otherwise.

I have experience with the stuff, Im obviously open minded to it, but the idea of people being able to dose this stuff wrong is scary.

Hell, its so easy to get a obscene amount of edibles(weed) in Colorado and there is very little information within stores to warn people how potent a 500 MG bottle of edibles can really be.

Thing is, if you dose too much on shrooms, the nice lady down the street becomes evil incarnate and you must slay the demon, whilst naked and holding a spoon.
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ChaosTonyV4
05/10/19 1:11:00 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...

Thing is, if you dose too much on shrooms, the nice lady down the street becomes evil incarnate and you must slay the demon, whilst naked and holding a spoon


Show me an article where this happened.

Because there are dozens of people who murder people on alcohol literally every day.
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ChichiriMuyo
05/10/19 1:14:32 AM
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I'm surprised they're going with shrooms before MDMA, but this makes sense for medical purposes.
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MZero11
05/10/19 1:34:59 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
How did that happen to you if it wasn't legalized?


Same way people get murdered even though it's illegal

Guess we should legalize murder
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banananor
05/10/19 1:41:55 AM
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this discussion has been had a million times

the people that know what they're talking about recognize that the war on drugs is ridiculous

the vast majority of recreational drugs are better off being fully legalized- in order that people can receive proper education on effects and safe use, make sure their drugs are clean, and receive addiction treatment if necessary
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Obellisk
05/10/19 8:22:35 AM
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What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?
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Steiner
05/10/19 8:34:42 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...
Thing is, if you dose too much on shrooms, the nice lady down the street becomes evil incarnate and you must slay the demon, whilst naked and holding a spoon.


This is just not the shrooms experience
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Steiner
05/10/19 8:36:06 AM
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Obellisk posted...
What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?


1.7 seconds of googling brought me here ;

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/benefits-of-medical-mushrooms
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pxlated
05/10/19 8:57:02 AM
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Too lazy to find links but a number of studies within the past few years have shown psilocybin to have incredibly powerful, near-immediate anti-depressant effects on many patients. One dosing can have a dramatic effect that last weeks, time enough for many people to pull themselves out of a bad place and get back on track without daily medicines that are costly, take ages for effects to be noticeable, and don't have as dramatic of effects.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 9:23:33 AM
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Steiner posted...
INCEPTlON posted...
Thing is, if you dose too much on shrooms, the nice lady down the street becomes evil incarnate and you must slay the demon, whilst naked and holding a spoon.


This is just not the shrooms experience


If you dont dose too much, youre right. I completely get that. Most of my friends and family who have tried it have had very mellow and pleasant experiences with only minor hallucinations.

6 grams got me to to Ego Death and I literally saw visual demons and monsters and then thought my room was floating in a black void. Its not the typical experience but it can get to that level.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 9:24:52 AM
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pxlated posted...
Too lazy to find links but a number of studies within the past few years have shown psilocybin to have incredibly powerful, near-immediate anti-depressant effects on many patients. One dosing can have a dramatic effect that last weeks, time enough for many people to pull themselves out of a bad place and get back on track without daily medicines that are costly, take ages for effects to be noticeable, and don't have as dramatic of effects.


I completely support that.
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redrocket
05/10/19 9:27:25 AM
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6 grams got me to to Ego Death and I literally saw visual demons and monsters and then thought my room was floating in a black void.


Sick
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Obellisk
05/10/19 9:27:30 AM
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Steiner posted...
Obellisk posted...
What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?


1.7 seconds of googling brought me here ;

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/benefits-of-medical-mushrooms


I mean, yeah I could have Googled it. But sometimes engaging in a conversation and learning from others is good too.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 9:29:28 AM
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Steiner posted...
Obellisk posted...
What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?


1.7 seconds of googling brought me here ;

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/benefits-of-medical-mushrooms


All absolutely true.

Im just saying if it were to go recreational, there needs to be more of a required dialogue or formal process when buying the stuff. People need to know how much will do what when they purchase. Maybe the process loosens up after youve been a buyer for a year or something.

I dont know. The liberal side of me supports this entirely.

The side of me that experienced that trip just gets freaked out over it. I know there are plenty of cocky 18 year olds out there that would take a large dose and believe they can outthink the shrooms if the trip goes south.
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INCEPTlON
05/10/19 9:32:17 AM
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redrocket posted...
6 grams got me to to Ego Death and I literally saw visual demons and monsters and then thought my room was floating in a black void.


Sick


Oh dont get me wrong, from a psychology and scientific perspective it was fucking bonkers and amazing. I got a new respect for the way the brain operates and how it can create its own reality.

If you guys ever want to hear a description of the whole trip and experience, i can crank that out one day.

I literally thought I died and went to like three different forms of the afterlife ( Im agnostic by the way) and I saw stuff that will stay with me the rest of my life. I know it was all hallucinations, but that shit was real when it was happening.
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Steiner
05/10/19 9:37:34 AM
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Obellisk posted...
Steiner posted...
Obellisk posted...
What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?


1.7 seconds of googling brought me here ;

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/benefits-of-medical-mushrooms


I mean, yeah I could have Googled it. But sometimes engaging in a conversation and learning from others is good too.


This is a fair point to make and I agree that is the spirit of posting on a board like this but it just seems the sort of thing that you can do your reading on and then we can all have a good discussion
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MysticBrohan
05/10/19 9:54:45 AM
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i tripped acid last weekend and spent the better part of 4 hours touching trees and shit
if its legal i just look like a loser
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Obellisk
05/10/19 10:09:15 AM
#49:


Steiner posted...
Obellisk posted...
Steiner posted...
Obellisk posted...
What are the medical benefits of mushrooms?


1.7 seconds of googling brought me here ;

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/benefits-of-medical-mushrooms


I mean, yeah I could have Googled it. But sometimes engaging in a conversation and learning from others is good too.


This is a fair point to make and I agree that is the spirit of posting on a board like this but it just seems the sort of thing that you can do your reading on and then we can all have a good discussion


Fine, I was also being lazy and was hoping to be spoken to a bit in an educational manner.

Personally I've had amazing trips and the stories oh man the stories. But I've had to take care of a few too many folks in my time too.

If there are true medical benefits for depression (which I find absurd but what the fuck does a cynic like me know), then I am fully in support.
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foolm0r0n
05/10/19 11:31:17 AM
#50:


MZero11 posted...
Same way people get murdered even though it's illegal

Guess we should legalize murder

If legalizing murder prevents the main cause of murder then obviously we should
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foolm0r0n
05/10/19 11:34:36 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...
But way way way less people are going out there and buying Shrooms illegally than they are weed.

You did and you hurt yourself though.

The point is, criminalizing it means criminalizing the education and safe practices and studies about it too. So if you just want education, then literally the ONLY way to get that is to legalize it. (The Netherlands allow education and studies even if it's banned recreationally, but that is not politically feasible in the US)
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