Poll of the Day > How much do you tip at a restaurant on average?

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captpackrat 05/07/19 5:41:11 PM #51:	Only time I've ever not given a tip the waiter was rude, took forever to take our order, and once he finally brought the food (which was cold) we never saw him again until he brought the check. Meanwhile I didn't even have a glass of water let alone the iced tea that I'd ordered. So I signed the credit card slip and didn't put a tip on it. When I checked with my bank's website a few days later, I saw the total didn't match the receipt. The bastard had written in a tip for himself! I called the bank and contested the charge and I wrote up a negative review for the restaurant on Yelp and Google. Moral of the story: If you pay by credit card and you don't want to leave a tip or you want to tip in cash, be sure to write ZERO on the tip line then fill in the total line below. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:921590739] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>Only time I've ever not given a tip the waiter was rude, took forever to take our order, and once he finally brought the food (which was cold) we never saw him again until he brought the check. Meanwhile I didn't even have a glass of water let alone the iced tea that I'd ordered. So I signed the credit card slip and didn't put a tip on it. When I checked with my bank's website a few days later, I saw the total didn't match the receipt. The bastard had written in a tip for himself! I called the bank and contested the charge and I wrote up a negative review for the restaurant on Yelp and Google. Moral of the story: If you pay by credit card and you don't want to leave a tip or you want to tip in cash, be sure to write ZERO on the tip line then fill in the total line below.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/07/19 5:47:59 PM #52:	captpackrat posted... Moral of the story: If you pay by credit card and you don't want to leave a tip or you want to tip in cash, be sure to write ZERO on the tip line then fill in the total line below. There's a place around here that started adding a 30% tip to the bill, regardless of type of pay. They considered it part of the bill, not paying it is not an option. And 30% to boot. They're friendly enough, but honestly less attentive with hardly any people than I've seen most other places with more people at the place. (Place hasn't had more than 3 small groups of like 2 or 3 people in ages when I'd been there. Buffet to boot.) I'm not saying they don't deserve a tip, but 30% is a bit much. It used to only be on groups of 5 or more, but then they started doing it on as few as 2 people. On top of that, unless you're looking over the bill closely (the handwriting is a bit sloppy) you wouldn't realize that. I guarantee they're being double tipped a lot. (The first time we realized it we'd already left a tip at the table.) We stopped going there. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921591041] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Moral of the story: If you pay by credit card and you don't want to leave a tip or you want to tip in cash, be sure to write ZERO on the tip line then fill in the total line below.</quote> There's a place around here that started adding a 30% tip to the bill, regardless of type of pay. They considered it part of the bill, not paying it is not an option. And 30% to boot. They're friendly enough, but honestly less attentive with hardly any people than I've seen most other places with more people at the place. (Place hasn't had more than 3 small groups of like 2 or 3 people in ages when I'd been there. Buffet to boot.) I'm not saying they don't deserve a tip, but 30% is a bit much. It used to only be on groups of 5 or more, but then they started doing it on as few as 2 people. On top of that, unless you're looking over the bill closely (the handwriting is a bit sloppy) you wouldn't realize that. I guarantee they're being double tipped a lot. (The first time we realized it we'd already left a tip at the table.) We stopped going there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImCallingYouOut 05/07/19 5:58:47 PM #54:	hypnox posted... 20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible. @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip --- I'm sick of trolls and garbage posters <cite>ImCallingYouOut posted [p:921591541] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote>20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible.</quote> @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimeForAction 05/07/19 6:34:58 PM #56:	Zangulus posted... ImCallingYouOut posted... hypnox posted... 20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible. @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip You take money off the check and only pay whats left. so stealing food and making the server pay out of their pocket Why not just dine and dash the whole meal? <cite>TimeForAction posted [p:921593120] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImCallingYouOut posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote>20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible.</quote> @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip</quote> You take money off the check and only pay whats left.</quote> so stealing food and making the server pay out of their pocket Why not just dine and dash the whole meal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 05/07/19 6:40:54 PM #57:	In California it's illegal to make an employee pay for losses, so there's that. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:921593371] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>In California it's illegal to make an employee pay for losses, so there's that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 05/07/19 6:45:26 PM #58:	I'm not even sure a P.O.S. will let a server enter a negative tip. Besides, if your food was that bad, it was the kitchen's and not the server's fault. You should also be speaking to management about getting a discount at this point instead of stiffing someone who wasn't at fault. Fucking customers thinking they can decide what they are willing to pay at the very end. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:921593583] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>I'm not even sure a P.O.S. will let a server enter a negative tip. Besides, if your food was that bad, it was the kitchen's and not the server's fault. You should also be speaking to management about getting a discount at this point instead of stiffing someone who wasn't at fault. Fucking customers thinking they can decide what they are willing to pay at the very end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/07/19 6:54:31 PM #59:	20% maybe more if I know the person well Unless it's a buffet or something --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921593972] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>20% maybe more if I know the person well Unless it's a buffet or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Galcian 05/07/19 6:54:31 PM #60:	Llamachama posted... If you don't tip at least 15%, don't go out. I don't go out b/c I'm poor --- <cite>Galcian posted [p:921593973] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Llamachama posted...</cite> <quote>If you don't tip at least 15%, don't go out.</quote> I don't go out b/c I'm poor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosAzeroth 05/07/19 6:56:06 PM #62:	Zangulus posted... Ive seen a few places with automatic gratuities. Usually for parties of 6 or more. That's fine, and when it used to only be on groups of 5 or more we were totally understanding about it. I think they started wanting to nickle and dime, because it started being on even as low as 2 people after business died down. But when it's myself and my spouse only, and while they clear plates fine one or both of us sit with empty drinks like half the meal or so sometimes. With hardly anyone there to boot. No offense, but 30% is too dang high. (They also cut their selection down, and honestly service got worse with less customers in there. It's overall not worth going there, especially when you can easily drive to a much better stocked place that doesn't do that. It started good though, I'll give them that. They drove the other place out of business though, and although it was smaller the food was a little better IMO. Especially in terms of what kinds they had. So now the town is stuck with a sub par place, which is pretty much how it goes here. If we do get something new people get excited, hype dies down, and it either goes to shit or closes.) My mom and sibling once had to wait for at least 10 minutes of their food just sitting in the window waiting to be brought to them at Denny's. I've never had such a thing happen, made me feel bad since I suggested the place. Food was cold by the time they got it. Both of them agree it wasn't super packed, and truth be told I've been there when it was and still didn't happen. Then the waitress apparently got a 'tude when she wasn't tipped. Apparently she'd ignored them the whole time too, and they didn't get a single drink refill or anything to boot. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921594039] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>Ive seen a few places with automatic gratuities. Usually for parties of 6 or more. </quote> That's fine, and when it used to only be on groups of 5 or more we were totally understanding about it. I think they started wanting to nickle and dime, because it started being on even as low as 2 people after business died down. But when it's myself and my spouse only, and while they clear plates fine one or both of us sit with empty drinks like half the meal or so sometimes. With hardly anyone there to boot. No offense, but 30% is too dang high. (They also cut their selection down, and honestly service got worse with less customers in there. It's overall not worth going there, especially when you can easily drive to a much better stocked place that doesn't do that. It started good though, I'll give them that. They drove the other place out of business though, and although it was smaller the food was a little better IMO. Especially in terms of what kinds they had. So now the town is stuck with a sub par place, which is pretty much how it goes here. If we do get something new people get excited, hype dies down, and it either goes to shit or closes.) My mom and sibling once had to wait for at least 10 minutes of their food just sitting in the window waiting to be brought to them at Denny's. I've never had such a thing happen, made me feel bad since I suggested the place. Food was cold by the time they got it. Both of them agree it wasn't super packed, and truth be told I've been there when it was and still didn't happen. Then the waitress apparently got a 'tude when she wasn't tipped. Apparently she'd ignored them the whole time too, and they didn't get a single drink refill or anything to boot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/07/19 6:56:36 PM #63:	TimeForAction posted... Zangulus posted... ImCallingYouOut posted... hypnox posted... 20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible. @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip You take money off the check and only pay whats left. so stealing food and making the server pay out of their pocket Why not just dine and dash the whole meal? It doesnt matter. No restaurant in existence is going to give you money back just cause you wrote it on the receipt --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921594063] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>TimeForAction posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImCallingYouOut posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote>20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible.</quote> @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip</quote> You take money off the check and only pay whats left.</quote> so stealing food and making the server pay out of their pocket Why not just dine and dash the whole meal?</quote> It doesnt matter. No restaurant in existence is going to give you money back just cause you wrote it on the receipt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 05/07/19 7:05:42 PM #64:	0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food? --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:921594433] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/07/19 7:08:36 PM #65:	Unbridled9 posted... I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. Agreed, but it is what it is unfortunately. Not sure why it is like that though tbh. Unbridled9 posted... why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food? I feel like if they did that people wouldn't receive it well. The prices at some places are basically just right for what you're getting, if they asked for more it wouldn't be worth eating there anymore. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921594566] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly.</quote> Agreed, but it is what it is unfortunately. Not sure why it is like that though tbh. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food?</quote> I feel like if they did that people wouldn't receive it well. The prices at some places are basically just right for what you're getting, if they asked for more it wouldn't be worth eating there anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hypnox 05/07/19 7:16:31 PM #66:	ImCallingYouOut posted... hypnox posted... 20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible. @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip Had the worst server I ever had when I took my best friend to celebrate his graduation. We went to a Sushi place at like 3PM so we were the ONLY people there. It was not a sushi bar type place, so the chef and all that were in the back. we saw the server THREE times. Our drinks stayed empty and we got tired of it. The bill was about 70 something dollers. I left three 20s on the table with the check and we left. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/HypnoxTheDarkKnight/char.gif http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ajm6lGqf1qekkfi.gif <cite>hypnox posted [p:921594893] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImCallingYouOut posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote>20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible.</quote> @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip</quote> Had the worst server I ever had when I took my best friend to celebrate his graduation. We went to a Sushi place at like 3PM so we were the ONLY people there. It was not a sushi bar type place, so the chef and all that were in the back. we saw the server THREE times. Our drinks stayed empty and we got tired of it. The bill was about 70 something dollers. I left three 20s on the table with the check and we left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardofHoth 05/07/19 7:17:25 PM #67:	I always tip by giving 2 bucks once in awhile depends on how good the waitress comes by with the food etc. <cite>WizardofHoth posted [p:921594927] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>I always tip by giving 2 bucks once in awhile depends on how good the waitress comes by with the food etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 05/07/19 7:33:48 PM #68:	Unbridled9 posted... 0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food? I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:921595680] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food?</quote> I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hypnox 05/07/19 7:37:37 PM #69:	mooreandrew58 posted... Unbridled9 posted... 0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food? I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes. Not here in Texas. MY grandmother was a waitress and she always claimed she made less than 20 dollars a day in tips so she wasn't taxed that much. She made something like 2.15 an hour plus tips --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/HypnoxTheDarkKnight/char.gif http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ajm6lGqf1qekkfi.gif <cite>hypnox posted [p:921595852] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food?</quote> I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes.</quote> Not here in Texas. MY grandmother was a waitress and she always claimed she made less than 20 dollars a day in tips so she wasn't taxed that much. She made something like 2.15 an hour plus tips</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 05/07/19 7:43:15 PM #70:	hypnox posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Unbridled9 posted... 0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food? I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes. Not here in Texas. MY grandmother was a waitress and she always claimed she made less than 20 dollars a day in tips so she wasn't taxed that much. She made something like 2.15 an hour plus tips well thats the law where I live. never looked into if it was nation wide or just a state thing. but back then minimum wage was much much lower. so close to 20 dollars a day probably was meeting normal minimum wage. just a few years ago minimum wage was getting me about 50 bucks a day for a 8 hour shift, and I know the minimum has at least doubled since my grandmothers days --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:921596119] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>0%. Why? I don't have the money to go to one in the first place. Even if I did I wouldn't have the money to afford to tip even if it was my own wife serving me. I wish that they'd just pay their employee's properly. I got nothing against it but I feel like, if it's obligatory, why even bother giving us the option to not tip and just include it in the base price of food?</quote> I agree more or less, but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. i'd be fine with it being that way if it wasn't for dicks punishing the servers for the kitchen staff's mistakes.</quote> Not here in Texas. MY grandmother was a waitress and she always claimed she made less than 20 dollars a day in tips so she wasn't taxed that much. She made something like 2.15 an hour plus tips</quote> well thats the law where I live. never looked into if it was nation wide or just a state thing. but back then minimum wage was much much lower. so close to 20 dollars a day probably was meeting normal minimum wage. just a few years ago minimum wage was getting me about 50 bucks a day for a 8 hour shift, and I know the minimum has at least doubled since my grandmothers days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/08/19 4:27:29 AM #71:	mooreandrew58 posted... but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. Apparently some states aren't forced to do that, and being considered a tipped worker also apparently hinges on a min tip amount per month which varies. (The chart says more than $20/month for Texas, not daily...huh.) However, the ones that I saw that have no such hourly wage to meet noted and have a rate of $2.13/hour are: Alabama Georgia Louisiana Mississippi South Carolina Tennessee <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921613361] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference.</quote> Apparently some states aren't forced to do that, and being considered a tipped worker also apparently hinges on a min tip amount per month which varies. (The chart says more than $20/month for Texas, not daily...huh.) However, the ones that I saw that have no such hourly wage to meet noted and have a rate of $2.13/hour are: Alabama Georgia Louisiana Mississippi South Carolina Tennessee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GRTooCool 05/08/19 5:37:45 AM #72:	20% if it's good service. If I'm extremely impressed I do go as high as 25% but that's extremely rare. Standard tipping I do 15% and the really bad service I'm too nice to leave without a tip so I'd still leave like 8-10% even though they absolutely don't deserve it. =x --- If you make an intelligent post, people tend to ignore it because they only respond to stupid. Don't believe me? Just look at most of the chained replies. <cite>GRTooCool posted [p:921614347] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>20% if it's good service. If I'm extremely impressed I do go as high as 25% but that's extremely rare. Standard tipping I do 15% and the really bad service I'm too nice to leave without a tip so I'd still leave like 8-10% even though they absolutely don't deserve it. =x</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/19 5:42:18 AM #73:	hypnox posted... ImCallingYouOut posted... hypnox posted... 20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible. @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip Had the worst server I ever had when I took my best friend to celebrate his graduation. We went to a Sushi place at like 3PM so we were the ONLY people there. It was not a sushi bar type place, so the chef and all that were in the back. we saw the server THREE times. Our drinks stayed empty and we got tired of it. The bill was about 70 something dollers. I left three 20s on the table with the check and we left. Thats not a negative tip, thats stealing food --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:921614421] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImCallingYouOut posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hypnox posted...</cite> <quote>20%, nothing if the service was bad. And left a negative tip once when the service was beyond horrible.</quote> @hypnox what the fuck is a negative tip</quote> Had the worst server I ever had when I took my best friend to celebrate his graduation. We went to a Sushi place at like 3PM so we were the ONLY people there. It was not a sushi bar type place, so the chef and all that were in the back. we saw the server THREE times. Our drinks stayed empty and we got tired of it. The bill was about 70 something dollers. I left three 20s on the table with the check and we left.</quote> Thats not a negative tip, thats stealing food</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joelypoely 05/08/19 6:07:32 AM #74:	0% Tipping is rare here. Usually happens only at bars/restaurants where you might tip at the front desk but not the individual staff directly. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ <cite>Joelypoely posted [p:921614751] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>0% Tipping is rare here. Usually happens only at bars/restaurants where you might tip at the front desk but not the individual staff directly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 05/08/19 8:05:40 AM #75:	Even if you don"t agree with the "rule," you're bogus if you don't tip somewhere where they make their money that way. --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. <cite>RedPixel posted [p:921616543] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>Even if you don"t agree with the "rule," you're bogus if you don't tip somewhere where they make their money that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 05/08/19 8:19:13 AM #76:	Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:921616840] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tha_Man_DS 05/08/19 8:42:58 AM #77:	People in the US are crazy... XD --- Nintendo fan! <cite>Tha_Man_DS posted [p:921617429] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>People in the US are crazy... XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaKun782 05/08/19 9:09:08 AM #78:	I don't tip jack shit. Kiss my ass. <cite>TaKun782 posted [p:921618087] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>I don't tip jack shit. Kiss my ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaKun782 05/08/19 9:09:39 AM #79:	Fazeo13 posted... Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job. I love you:) <cite>TaKun782 posted [p:921618100] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job.</quote> I love you:)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 05/08/19 9:41:36 AM #80:	TaKun782 posted... Fazeo13 posted... Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job. I love you:) I love me too. Listening to some old bag waitress telling me how tough she got it. Trying to elicit a tip out of little old me. Bitch I worked at a warehouse 6 days a week 7am-7pm. I had to pee in a bottle to meet warehouse service level requirements. I once had to take a dookie in a plastic bag. Oh the humanity of it all. And now some old krone with a bad hip tell me her sob story. Ah hell no to the no, no. You carry a few plates around, spitting in people food, telling me how tough life is. ** I know, now get me mah food before I Cleveland steamer your ass. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:921618951] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>TaKun782 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job.</quote> I love you:)</quote> I love me too. Listening to some old bag waitress telling me how tough she got it. Trying to elicit a tip out of little old me. Bitch I worked at a warehouse 6 days a week 7am-7pm. I had to pee in a bottle to meet warehouse service level requirements. I once had to take a dookie in a plastic bag. Oh the humanity of it all. And now some old krone with a bad hip tell me her sob story. Ah hell no to the no, no. You carry a few plates around, spitting in people food, telling me how tough life is. ** I know, now get me mah food before I Cleveland steamer your ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/19 9:42:26 AM #81:	Fazeo13 posted... TaKun782 posted... Fazeo13 posted... Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job. I love you:) I love me too. Listening to some old bag waitress telling me how tough she got it. Trying to elicit a tip out of little old me. Bitch I worked at a warehouse 6 days a week 7am-7pm. I had to pee in a bottle to meet warehouse service level requirements. I once had to take a dookie in a plastic bag. Oh the humanity of it all. And now some old krone with a bad hip tell me her sob story. Ah hell no to the no, no. You carry a few plates around, spitting in people food, telling me how tough life is. ** I know, now get me mah food before I Cleveland steamer your ass. I guarantee no waitress has ever given two shits about you --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:921618977] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TaKun782 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing, reparations need to be made. You want more money? Get a real job. Ain't nobody tipping me in my job.</quote> I love you:)</quote> I love me too. Listening to some old bag waitress telling me how tough she got it. Trying to elicit a tip out of little old me. Bitch I worked at a warehouse 6 days a week 7am-7pm. I had to pee in a bottle to meet warehouse service level requirements. I once had to take a dookie in a plastic bag. Oh the humanity of it all. And now some old krone with a bad hip tell me her sob story. Ah hell no to the no, no. You carry a few plates around, spitting in people food, telling me how tough life is. ** I know, now get me mah food before I Cleveland steamer your ass.</quote> I guarantee no waitress has ever given two shits about you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 05/08/19 9:45:56 AM #82:	Servers who are good at their jobs and work busy shifts don't want set wages. They love those tips because they can bring home more money this way. When you're good, not uncommon to bring home over hundred or more in tips alone. Can't do that in straight wages. --- PSN: CPortzline <cite>CTLM posted [p:921619089] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>Servers who are good at their jobs and work busy shifts don't want set wages. They love those tips because they can bring home more money this way. When you're good, not uncommon to bring home over hundred or more in tips alone. Can't do that in straight wages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardofHoth 05/08/19 10:53:30 AM #83:	If the food is really good and if Im really in a good mood then ill probably leave a 5 dollar tip <cite>WizardofHoth posted [p:921621193] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>If the food is really good and if Im really in a good mood then ill probably leave a 5 dollar tip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/08/19 12:42:16 PM #84:	Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job" How about you go get a better job so you can actually afford to go out to eat instead of coming up with lame excuses for being an asshole to someone just trying to make a living. The unfortunate truth is that those restaurants aren't for people like you. I know that's hard to hear, but it's the truth. Sure they'll let you in and take your money, but you dont belong there homie. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921625364] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job" How about you go get a better job so you can actually afford to go out to eat instead of coming up with lame excuses for being an asshole to someone just trying to make a living. The unfortunate truth is that those restaurants aren't for people like you. I know that's hard to hear, but it's the truth. Sure they'll let you in and take your money, but you dont belong there homie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 05/08/19 1:49:12 PM #85:	Solid Snake07 posted... Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job" I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant? <cite>captpackrat posted [p:921628502] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job"</quote> I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 05/08/19 4:29:52 PM #86:	ChaosAzeroth posted... mooreandrew58 posted... but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference. Apparently some states aren't forced to do that, and being considered a tipped worker also apparently hinges on a min tip amount per month which varies. (The chart says more than $20/month for Texas, not daily...huh.) However, the ones that I saw that have no such hourly wage to meet noted and have a rate of $2.13/hour are: Alabama Georgia Louisiana Mississippi South Carolina Tennessee damn 2 bucks. I think min for waiters here is 4 something. maybe 5. minimum wage was lower when I worked in a place where the wait staff got tipped. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:921635270] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosAzeroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>but I feel the need to point out that at the very least by law, if the tips don't make up the difference on what would be minimum wage the employer has to cover that difference.</quote> Apparently some states aren't forced to do that, and being considered a tipped worker also apparently hinges on a min tip amount per month which varies. (The chart says more than $20/month for Texas, not daily...huh.) However, the ones that I saw that have no such hourly wage to meet noted and have a rate of $2.13/hour are: Alabama Georgia Louisiana Mississippi South Carolina Tennessee</quote> damn 2 bucks. I think min for waiters here is 4 something. maybe 5. minimum wage was lower when I worked in a place where the wait staff got tipped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 05/08/19 8:18:33 PM #87:	captpackrat posted... Solid Snake07 posted... Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job" I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant? Waiters get paid more then most "real jobs" actually, currently at least. I would have to imagine that while there are many states that don't pay min wage + tips (unlike Washington), waiters still get tipped something similarly to people working here in Washington. As I mentioned before, many waiters don't consider the base pay and even noticable, and rave if they have a bad "tip" day. Of the roomates (just roomates not even my friends) who have worked tip jobs, I don't believe any of them had a 6+ hour shift where they got less then $60 in tips. As mentioned, my friend would have a caniption if he got tipped less then $200 on his six hour shifts. So yeah, even if you got paid 2$ an hour base, + tips.....that is still way more then the average person makes even with a "real job". Bartenders/waiters at any decent establishment make more then attorneys do on average, at least for their first 5 years or so (and many for their whole careers depending on if they are a solo practitioner, what type of law they work in, who they work for etc). It's been about 10 years now, but new attorneys actualyl started at around $30k in Alameda CA (which is insanely expensive to live in), and it was often expected for them to work 60+ hours a week. Compare that to a waiter who works 4 6 hour shifts a week and pulls in 250$+ per shift. The waiter is working 24 hours total, making $4000 + a month ($50k a year), had no schooling/training needed (although many go to school while doing the job since it's basically the easiest way to pay for it). Teachers as well, started around that (believe it's gone up) and didn't get a salary increase till after the first 5 years. So you have a job that anyone can do, even if they dropped out of HS, that can be done part time (and still pay all your bills), and that is fun/enjoyable if you actually are social and like people (not for everyone of course, but I personally love service jobs as I'm pretty much universally, and naturally friendly). Being a waiter is not good for people who are not though (which I do know of some) since they actually pretend to be friendly at work and it like, uses up, their friendliness lol........it's like they start expecting to be paid if they are nice to people!! --- We are 4 oreos from Heaven!!!! <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:921644138] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job"</quote> I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant?</quote> Waiters get paid more then most "real jobs" actually, currently at least. I would have to imagine that while there are many states that don't pay min wage + tips (unlike Washington), waiters still get tipped something similarly to people working here in Washington. As I mentioned before, many waiters don't consider the base pay and even noticable, and rave if they have a bad "tip" day. Of the roomates (just roomates not even my friends) who have worked tip jobs, I don't believe any of them had a 6+ hour shift where they got less then $60 in tips. As mentioned, my friend would have a caniption if he got tipped less then $200 on his six hour shifts. So yeah, even if you got paid 2$ an hour base, + tips.....that is still way more then the average person makes even with a "real job". Bartenders/waiters at any decent establishment make more then attorneys do on average, at least for their first 5 years or so (and many for their whole careers depending on if they are a solo practitioner, what type of law they work in, who they work for etc). It's been about 10 years now, but new attorneys actualyl started at around $30k in Alameda CA (which is insanely expensive to live in), and it was often expected for them to work 60+ hours a week. Compare that to a waiter who works 4 6 hour shifts a week and pulls in 250$+ per shift. The waiter is working 24 hours total, making $4000 + a month ($50k a year), had no schooling/training needed (although many go to school while doing the job since it's basically the easiest way to pay for it). Teachers as well, started around that (believe it's gone up) and didn't get a salary increase till after the first 5 years. So you have a job that anyone can do, even if they dropped out of HS, that can be done part time (and still pay all your bills), and that is fun/enjoyable if you actually are social and like people (not for everyone of course, but I personally love service jobs as I'm pretty much universally, and naturally friendly). Being a waiter is not good for people who are not though (which I do know of some) since they actually pretend to be friendly at work and it like, uses up, their friendliness lol........it's like they start expecting to be paid if they are nice to people!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 05/09/19 12:17:09 AM #88:	I average the typical dining experience to be about an hour. Count out the number of tables I see the server working as I'm there and divide it by a fair wage such as 15 dollars per hour. <cite>dedbus posted [p:921653240] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>I average the typical dining experience to be about an hour. Count out the number of tables I see the server working as I'm there and divide it by a fair wage such as 15 dollars per hour.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/09/19 12:17:46 AM #89:	wolfy42 posted... captpackrat posted... Solid Snake07 posted... Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job" I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant? Of the roomates (just roomates not even my friends) who have worked tip jobs, I don't believe any of them had a 6+ hour shift where they got less then $60 in tips. As mentioned, my friend would have a caniption if he got tipped less then $200 on his six hour shifts. Bartenders/waiters at any decent establishment make more then attorneys do on average, at least for their first 5 years or so (and many for their whole careers depending on if they are a solo practitioner, what type of law they work in, who they work for etc). It's been about 10 years now, but new attorneys actualyl started at around $30k in Alameda CA (which is insanely expensive to live in), and it was often expected for them to work 60+ hours a week. Compare that to a waiter who works 4 6 hour shifts a week and pulls in 250$+ per shift. The waiter is working 24 hours total, making $4000 + a month ($50k a year), had no schooling/training needed (although many go to school while doing the job since it's basically the easiest way to pay for it). eh, your numbers a bit off. for most places at least. First of all, painting a serving schedule as a leisurely 6 hour shift a few times a week is optimistic at best. Back when I served tables I was basically working full time. And I worked a lot of "doubles" which basically means you come in for lunch service, get a couple of hours off(maybe) and come back and work dinner. So even if you were only clocked in for 10 hours it's basically 12 or more. As for money, servers at most places are maybe making $100 per service on a decent night, less for lunch service. if you're consistently hitting $200+ then you're probably working at a very nice place that does a lot of volume. which means expectations of you are high. I probably made anywhere from 30-40k a year take home a year and I worked all the fucking time. Yeah I made substantially more than minimum wage, no way in hell I would have done that shit for minimum wage. I'd just go get a chill job being a barista or something. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921653259] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Gotta love broke ass edge lords who want to pretend to be "bootstrappers" and tell restaurant servers to "go get a real job"</quote> I always love that. If everyone "got a real job", then who would wait on you at the restaurant?</quote> Of the roomates (just roomates not even my friends) who have worked tip jobs, I don't believe any of them had a 6+ hour shift where they got less then $60 in tips. As mentioned, my friend would have a caniption if he got tipped less then $200 on his six hour shifts. Bartenders/waiters at any decent establishment make more then attorneys do on average, at least for their first 5 years or so (and many for their whole careers depending on if they are a solo practitioner, what type of law they work in, who they work for etc). It's been about 10 years now, but new attorneys actualyl started at around $30k in Alameda CA (which is insanely expensive to live in), and it was often expected for them to work 60+ hours a week. Compare that to a waiter who works 4 6 hour shifts a week and pulls in 250$+ per shift. The waiter is working 24 hours total, making $4000 + a month ($50k a year), had no schooling/training needed (although many go to school while doing the job since it's basically the easiest way to pay for it). </quote> eh, your numbers a bit off. for most places at least. First of all, painting a serving schedule as a leisurely 6 hour shift a few times a week is optimistic at best. Back when I served tables I was basically working full time. And I worked a lot of "doubles" which basically means you come in for lunch service, get a couple of hours off(maybe) and come back and work dinner. So even if you were only clocked in for 10 hours it's basically 12 or more. As for money, servers at most places are maybe making $100 per service on a decent night, less for lunch service. if you're consistently hitting $200+ then you're probably working at a very nice place that does a lot of volume. which means expectations of you are high. I probably made anywhere from 30-40k a year take home a year and I worked all the fucking time. Yeah I made substantially more than minimum wage, no way in hell I would have done that shit for minimum wage. I'd just go get a chill job being a barista or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 05/09/19 12:39:56 AM #90:	Solid Snake07 posted... I probably made anywhere from 30-40k a year take home a year and I worked all the f*ing time. Yeah I made substantially more than minimum wage, no way in hell I would have done that s* for minimum wage. I'd just go get a chill job being a barista or something. True, most everyone I know currently working these jobs is in downtown olympia, so yeah, tipping is probably higher on average there (since it's an actual city). That being said, I heard from many bartenders that they made even more, and this includes one who has been an electronic engineer working for IBM then Western Digital and now whatever that company turned into (Hitachi global? I forget the name), anyway , he made insane tips as a bartender and this was 30 years ago. But yeah there are good jobs and bad jobs in any field, and there are places/shifts that would pay total crap (but where I live they still get min wage so even total crap tips + min wage is still better then most other jobs here). I worked for somewhere called Conduent briefly (till I found out what was promised to get you to work there was not true). Two of the other people that also left were based on the pay not being enough/what was promised. One was a realtor (the bonuses they stated you got would lead to about $50-60k a year...but we found out pretty fast that wasn't true), the other had about the worst waitress job you could get, she worked at Sahri's Cafe graveyard (kinda like a Denny's), and she still averaged $20 an hour in tips (Conduent paid $12 an hour base, the rest was supposed to be bonuses from answering more then x calls, working more then x hours etc). Now, I'm sure there are places even worse, and shifts that are totally dead as well, but I would have to guess just from what she said etc, that most people working a waiter job that is paying less then $20 a tip per hour, look for another waiter job asap lol. Considering even 10% average tip on 4 total customers (not tables, customers) for most places at this point is $10, you need to almost have no customers (that tip of course) in order to make less then double min wage. In my area, even caregivers and jobs that need AA degrees etc pay within a dollar of min wage because it was raised $3 in the last 3 years. A caregiver is needs 3 months of training first and a program that costs over $500 to complete for instance....they then get paid 12-13$ an hour. Or you can go take that job at Sheri's and make at least 22$ an hour (and probably more on average) with no training, no money invested and if there really are no customers at all, you are also not really working much at all either lol. Bring a book at that point. --- We are 4 oreos from Heaven!!!! <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:921654008] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>I probably made anywhere from 30-40k a year take home a year and I worked all the f*ing time. Yeah I made substantially more than minimum wage, no way in hell I would have done that s* for minimum wage. I'd just go get a chill job being a barista or something.</quote> True, most everyone I know currently working these jobs is in downtown olympia, so yeah, tipping is probably higher on average there (since it's an actual city). That being said, I heard from many bartenders that they made even more, and this includes one who has been an electronic engineer working for IBM then Western Digital and now whatever that company turned into (Hitachi global? I forget the name), anyway , he made insane tips as a bartender and this was 30 years ago. But yeah there are good jobs and bad jobs in any field, and there are places/shifts that would pay total crap (but where I live they still get min wage so even total crap tips + min wage is still better then most other jobs here). I worked for somewhere called Conduent briefly (till I found out what was promised to get you to work there was not true). Two of the other people that also left were based on the pay not being enough/what was promised. One was a realtor (the bonuses they stated you got would lead to about $50-60k a year...but we found out pretty fast that wasn't true), the other had about the worst waitress job you could get, she worked at Sahri's Cafe graveyard (kinda like a Denny's), and she still averaged $20 an hour in tips (Conduent paid $12 an hour base, the rest was supposed to be bonuses from answering more then x calls, working more then x hours etc). Now, I'm sure there are places even worse, and shifts that are totally dead as well, but I would have to guess just from what she said etc, that most people working a waiter job that is paying less then $20 a tip per hour, look for another waiter job asap lol. Considering even 10% average tip on 4 total customers (not tables, customers) for most places at this point is $10, you need to almost have no customers (that tip of course) in order to make less then double min wage. In my area, even caregivers and jobs that need AA degrees etc pay within a dollar of min wage because it was raised $3 in the last 3 years. A caregiver is needs 3 months of training first and a program that costs over $500 to complete for instance....they then get paid 12-13$ an hour. Or you can go take that job at Sheri's and make at least 22$ an hour (and probably more on average) with no training, no money invested and if there really are no customers at all, you are also not really working much at all either lol. Bring a book at that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zacek 05/09/19 1:06:26 AM #91:	I just don't understand how in America you have to paid an aditional 20%... is insane. --- Final Fantasy was in 2D? I thought the number 7 was just a metaphor for something .... - Cbaker216 <cite>Zacek posted [p:921654873] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>I just don't understand how in America you have to paid an aditional 20%... is insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/09/19 1:46:06 AM #92:	Zacek posted... I just don't understand how in America you have to paid an aditional 20%... is insane. The problem is in many places your server isn't seeing all the money you leave on the tip line. A lot of places have support staff that have to be tipped out and servers have to tip bartenders out as well. I worked at a very nice seafood place and I made good money but our tip out was pretty damn high. If I made 200 in tips I was probably walking out the door with 160-170. And that's assuming most of my tables tipped around 20%. Cause I had to tip out based on a percentage of my sales, not my tips. So if you tip me 15% and my tip out is 4% I'm only walking with two thirds of what you left. now that isn't true everwhere but unless you've worked in the industry you're probably not going to know. Look, tipping is kind of a shitty system that has pros and cons but the person it's shittiest to is the person serving tables. Taking it out on them is a shitty thing to do. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:921655959] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zacek posted...</cite> <quote>I just don't understand how in America you have to paid an aditional 20%... is insane.</quote> The problem is in many places your server isn't seeing all the money you leave on the tip line. A lot of places have support staff that have to be tipped out and servers have to tip bartenders out as well. I worked at a very nice seafood place and I made good money but our tip out was pretty damn high. If I made 200 in tips I was probably walking out the door with 160-170. And that's assuming most of my tables tipped around 20%. Cause I had to tip out based on a percentage of my sales, not my tips. So if you tip me 15% and my tip out is 4% I'm only walking with two thirds of what you left. now that isn't true everwhere but unless you've worked in the industry you're probably not going to know. Look, tipping is kind of a shitty system that has pros and cons but the person it's shittiest to is the person serving tables. Taking it out on them is a shitty thing to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigK1016 05/09/19 2:12:07 AM #93:	The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service. For everyone that tips 0% (which first off shame on you and quite honestly ** you), if servers made a set wage there would never be any incentive to provide good service and just do the bare minimum. And to those that tip 0%, just remember that you wasted your servers time whether you agree with tipping or not. --- twitch.tv/bigk1016 Give me a follow! <cite>BigK1016 posted [p:921656445] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service. For everyone that tips 0% (which first off shame on you and quite honestly ** you), if servers made a set wage there would never be any incentive to provide good service and just do the bare minimum. And to those that tip 0%, just remember that you wasted your servers time whether you agree with tipping or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 05/09/19 2:15:50 AM #94:	lol, ya, that's why a non tipping country like Japan has far better service than US. American service is just shit in general and not worth tipping. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:921656523] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>lol, ya, that's why a non tipping country like Japan has far better service than US. American service is just shit in general and not worth tipping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
miki_sauvester 05/09/19 3:22:17 AM #95:	BigK1016 posted... The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service. For everyone that tips 0% (which first off shame on you and quite honestly ** you), if servers made a set wage there would never be any incentive to provide good service and just do the bare minimum. And to those that tip 0%, just remember that you wasted your servers time whether you agree with tipping or not. Then how would you explain that if you look at a map of countries in the world that tip and those that dont, the countries that dont are known for far better service? Honestly, although it may seem a bit counter intuitive, I think tipping actually ENCOURAGES a culture of bad service, mainly by building up overtime a culture of entitled waiters/waitresses. At least in Japan, where Ive lived about half my life (the other half in America) being a waiter is considered like the easiest job ever. I honestly agree, you are just writing down an order and carrying a plate, even an elementary school student could do that. On the other hand, all my American friends who are waiters always complain to me about how much their job sucks, and when I ask them why, they tell me stories about rude and demanding customers, etc. But to be honest, I would be a lot more demanding too if I had to pay 20% of my bill to you everytime I ate out. <cite>miki_sauvester posted [p:921657738] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>BigK1016 posted...</cite> <quote>The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service. For everyone that tips 0% (which first off shame on you and quite honestly ** you), if servers made a set wage there would never be any incentive to provide good service and just do the bare minimum. And to those that tip 0%, just remember that you wasted your servers time whether you agree with tipping or not.</quote> Then how would you explain that if you look at a map of countries in the world that tip and those that dont, the countries that dont are known for far better service? Honestly, although it may seem a bit counter intuitive, I think tipping actually ENCOURAGES a culture of bad service, mainly by building up overtime a culture of entitled waiters/waitresses. At least in Japan, where Ive lived about half my life (the other half in America) being a waiter is considered like the easiest job ever. I honestly agree, you are just writing down an order and carrying a plate, even an elementary school student could do that. On the other hand, all my American friends who are waiters always complain to me about how much their job sucks, and when I ask them why, they tell me stories about rude and demanding customers, etc. But to be honest, I would be a lot more demanding too if I had to pay 20% of my bill to you everytime I ate out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/09/19 3:27:36 AM #96:	BigK1016 posted... The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service. Then why do we tip after? They don't know how much a person is going to tip. Are you saying some poor schmo after a non tipper is going to get crap service, even if they end up tipping 20% or more? That sucks. Also found this little 'gem': 'However, studies of the real world practice show that tipping is often discriminatory or arbitrary; workers receive different levels of gratuity based on factors such as age, sex, race, hair color and even breast size, and the size of the gratuity is found to be only very weakly related to the quality of service.' miki_sauvester posted... I would be a lot more demanding too if I had to pay 20% of my bill to you everytime I ate out. No one's forcing you to as far as I'm aware. Also people can be real jerks, paying extra doesn't justify being an outright asshole, and I've seen some outright assholes. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921657819] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>BigK1016 posted...</cite> <quote>The tipping system is there to encourage the server to provide good service.</quote> Then why do we tip after? They don't know how much a person is going to tip. Are you saying some poor schmo after a non tipper is going to get crap service, even if they end up tipping 20% or more? That sucks. Also found this little 'gem': 'However, studies of the real world practice show that tipping is often discriminatory or arbitrary; workers receive different levels of gratuity based on factors such as age, sex, race, hair color and even breast size, and the size of the gratuity is found to be only very weakly related to the quality of service.' <cite>miki_sauvester posted...</cite> <quote>I would be a lot more demanding too if I had to pay 20% of my bill to you everytime I ate out.</quote> No one's forcing you to as far as I'm aware. Also people can be real jerks, paying extra doesn't justify being an outright asshole, and I've seen some outright assholes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
miki_sauvester 05/09/19 3:37:21 AM #97:	ChaosAzeroth posted... No one's forcing you to as far as I'm aware. Well, I mean everytime Ive been to America or Canada, I am told by all my friends it is mandatory, or the waiter might even chase me out on the way out. Plus a lot of menus Ive seen on my current trip to America have strangely threatening statements in both Japanese and Korean (both countries that dont tip) that here in America, we tip from 20%-30%, which seems both misleading and kind of made me want to tip less (Ive been tipping around 15% my current trip here, which I swear was on the high end my last trip here lol) <cite>miki_sauvester posted [p:921657981] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosAzeroth posted...</cite> <quote>No one's forcing you to as far as I'm aware.</quote> Well, I mean everytime Ive been to America or Canada, I am told by all my friends it is mandatory, or the waiter might even chase me out on the way out. Plus a lot of menus Ive seen on my current trip to America have strangely threatening statements in both Japanese and Korean (both countries that dont tip) that here in America, we tip from 20%-30%, which seems both misleading and kind of made me want to tip less (Ive been tipping around 15% my current trip here, which I swear was on the high end my last trip here lol)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 05/09/19 3:38:14 AM #98:	$5 minimum but 15%. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:921658002] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote>$5 minimum but 15%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/09/19 3:44:24 AM #99:	miki_sauvester posted... Well, I mean everytime Ive been to America or Canada, I am told by all my friends it is mandatory, or the waiter might even chase me out on the way out. Your friends are either messing with you, trying to convince you to, or just plain wrong. Not proud of it, but been drug out with people when we were dirt poor that took us out and didn't tip and never been chased before. They probably won't even notice while you're there. My mom didn't even get an argument when her food was left in the window and not delivered for 10 or more minutes and when asked flat said she wasn't tipping. Flat told them and other than some snideness from the waitress nothing happened, doubt there's going to be someone staring at your table and then chasing you for not tipping. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:921658109] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>miki_sauvester posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I mean everytime Ive been to America or Canada, I am told by all my friends it is mandatory, or the waiter might even chase me out on the way out.</quote> Your friends are either messing with you, trying to convince you to, or just plain wrong. Not proud of it, but been drug out with people when we were dirt poor that took us out and didn't tip and never been chased before. They probably won't even notice while you're there. My mom didn't even get an argument when her food was left in the window and not delivered for 10 or more minutes and when asked flat said she wasn't tipping. Flat told them and other than some snideness from the waitress nothing happened, doubt there's going to be someone staring at your table and then chasing you for not tipping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 05/09/19 8:12:32 AM #100:	VeeVees posted... lol, ya, that's why a non tipping country like Japan has far better service than US. American service is just shit in general and not worth tipping. Yeah, true that. What ever happened to having pride in your work? Bunch of barista social science gender study useless qualification jerks expecting a tip from awh hell to the no, no, --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:921661911] in How much d... [t:77697183]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>lol, ya, that's why a non tipping country like Japan has far better service than US. American service is just shit in general and not worth tipping.</quote> Yeah, true that. What ever happened to having pride in your work? Bunch of barista social science gender study useless qualification jerks expecting a tip from awh hell to the no, no,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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