Board 8 > The All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482

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Steiner
05/01/19 10:08:17 AM
#151:


ScareChan posted...
and? did anyone think it was a retirement?


Well considering the story is that's what WWE believed...
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NBIceman
05/01/19 10:27:00 AM
#152:


ScareChan posted...
and? did anyone think it was a retirement?

A disturbing amount of people, yes.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 11:01:05 AM
#153:


I love this story from Conrad about dealing with WWE

They offered him the trio of Flair, Sting, and Bischoff as a replacement package for Taker and Angle. He said no because he already had all 3 booked

Then they offered Sting AGAIN along with the APA, which he had to turn down because, of course, he already had Sting and Simmons booked, and wanted no part of JBL
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Strife2
05/01/19 12:07:06 PM
#154:


How does WWE not go: who is on your list already? Jot down Conrad's list before sounding so stupid.

God they are dumb.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 12:14:26 PM
#155:


Strife2 posted...
How does WWE not go: who is on your list already? Jot down Conrad's list before sounding so stupid.

God they are dumb.

I don't think it's stupidity moreso that they don't want to give him any time of day moreso than just naming a bunch of guys they could have at Starrcast they won't throw a fit over.

Frankly, they could just tell him "Oh well, sorry." Because Conrad would be crazy to press charges against them. So what they're basically doing is just doing the absolute minimum to keep him from wasting their time with any sort of lawsuit.

So they're not being dumb. They're just being colossal assholes.
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Steiner
05/01/19 12:18:15 PM
#156:


Guys there's no need to argue, they're dumb assholes
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 3:49:14 PM
#157:


Pet Peeve of mine

They still feel the need to announce that the following contest, scheduled for one fall, is a WOMENS DIVISION MATCH
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 3:58:53 PM
#158:


https://twitter.com/RandyOrton/status/1123483945453195266?s=19

I seriously hope that WWE did actually spend $2 million on the bugs for Bray and Orton's WrestleMania match. Only for everyone to laugh uproariously at how stupid it is.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 5:24:34 PM
#159:


Another ratings fact:

The Raw ratings are now at the level of the very first Impact that went against Raw on Mondays.

The Raw rating is now at peak Impact levels.
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StealThisSheen
05/01/19 5:29:07 PM
#160:


How are we so bad at being the authority

How do we fix this

Do... Do I raise the Corbin lever another few notches?
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XIII_rocks
05/01/19 5:37:52 PM
#161:


StealThisSheen posted...
How are we so bad at being the authority


Maybe I can help with that
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StealThisSheen
05/01/19 5:49:24 PM
#162:


Yes sir please moderate the bad portions of Raw thank you
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XIII_rocks
05/01/19 5:56:14 PM
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:14:45 PM
#164:


1.83M for SD

I knew the chickens were coming home to roost when it came to WWEs declining quality, but I didnt know that the dogs were in the enclosed pool area also
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Strife2
05/01/19 6:16:32 PM
#165:


I keep hoping Smackdown would benefit from Raw's demise, but Raw is taking Smackdown down with it. BLeh.
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scarletspeed7
05/01/19 6:28:25 PM
#166:


It's scary that the best tactic I think SD has at this point is to have its talent bash RAW.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 6:30:15 PM
#167:


I think Smackdown drafted RAW's quality with Roman.

I saw that segment and decided I was checking the fuck out. Smackdown was actually decent-ish before that. Bayley vs Becky was fun until Charlotte just came in and beat both of them up for reasons I can't determine. Kofi having an overly dramatic promo about being betrayed by Kevin Owens, his friend of two weeks, was a bit much. I'm ready for Lars to do something other than randomly beat up people in the same manner. And I didn't need to see really sloppy jobbers be beaten by Asuka and Kairi.

I can see why people checked out of the show.
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Lopen
05/01/19 6:31:24 PM
#168:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Smackdown was actually decent before that.


No it wasn't. It had one match in the first hour. Over half of its promo time was showing clips, too.
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StealThisSheen
05/01/19 6:31:25 PM
#169:


Let's be real, here. Smackdown was starting to suck well before the shakeup. This can't be blamed on Roman. The whole show sucked yesterday.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:35:37 PM
#170:


scarletspeed7 posted...
It's scary that the best tactic I think SD has at this point is to have its talent bash RAW.


Basically the Xavier Woods plan to combat Breeze as Raw GM
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:37:17 PM
#171:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think Smackdown drafted RAW's quality with Roman.

I saw that segment and decided I was checking the fuck out. Smackdown was actually decent-ish before that. Bayley vs Becky was fun until Charlotte just came in and beat both of them up for reasons I can't determine. Kofi having an overly dramatic promo about being betrayed by Kevin Owens, his friend of two weeks, was a bit much. I'm ready for Lars to do something other than randomly beat up people in the same manner. And I didn't need to see really sloppy jobbers be beaten by Asuka and Kairi.

I can see why people checked out of the show.


This reminds me that one of the benefits of the move to Fox is we will get quarter hour ratings again
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 6:37:57 PM
#172:


I guess my barometer for decent is "it was kind of boring but it didn't annoy me." I mean, I did post all the issues I had about it. So I was hardly complimenting it.

I certainly won't argue that Smackdown was on a decline before the shake up, but my point with Roman is that bad booking follows him everywhere. And the kind of stuff they book like arbitrarily having B-Team be heels with a special guest referee handicap match is just insultingly dumb, especially since we know Roman is going to win in the end anyway somehow.
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Lopen
05/01/19 6:40:56 PM
#173:


I'm just saying it was the worst episode of Smackdown I'd seen in a really long time (granted I have only seen 3 in the past two months or so) so calling it decent (even ish) seemed extremely generous.

Like a week to week show boring is the worst thing. The PPVs I might take some cliche boring over actively bad, but on the weekly shows? Give me the bad stuff.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:42:31 PM
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:48:32 PM
#175:


The Jon Moxley video officially has more viewers than SD
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:53:26 PM
#176:


SmackDown usually finishes in the middle of the top 10 in terms of total cable viewers for the night, but it fell all the way to 15th yesterday. Perhaps more importantly, in the key 18-49 demo, where SmackDown is usually first or second, the show fell to seventh on the night with a 0.54 rating.


That doesnt sound good
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 6:54:21 PM
#177:


Don't worry guys.

FOX will fix everything.*
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*For a short while.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 6:59:53 PM
#178:


The good news is that this is not the lowest-rated SD ever

They once did 1.66M viewers

On New Years Eve

With no brand split

On SyFy
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StealThisSheen
05/01/19 7:15:44 PM
#179:


Look what you did, Biscuit.

They're going to see you tuned out during the Roman segment and conclude that you must have tuned out once you realized he wasn't champion
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ScareChan
05/01/19 7:30:09 PM
#180:


Wasn't smackdown against a celtics playoff game and a warriors playoff game?
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:33:27 PM
#181:


ScareChan posted...
Wasn't smackdown against a celtics playoff game and a warriors playoff game?


Its always on up against something!
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:34:02 PM
#182:


SmackDown did air opposite an NBA playoff game between the Milwaukee Bucks and Boston Celtics that did a big audience of 4.404 million. A later game featuring the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets did an even bigger audience of 6.073 million, starting at 10:30 p.m. Even an NHL playoff game finished close to SmackDown in viewers with 1.664 million, and it beat SmackDown in the demo.

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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:34:33 PM
#184:


Wait so no it wasnt on against the Warriors
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StealThisSheen
05/01/19 7:34:33 PM
#183:


Yeah, I mean it was up against playoff games at multiple points last year, too, but it wasn't this low

At some point the "It's up against ___" stops being an excuse
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:36:56 PM
#185:


Whatever Curse of Oak Island is got 3.32M viewers against the Celtics
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ScareChan
05/01/19 7:44:23 PM
#186:


I think the last 30 minutes was against warriors

And right after that 2 of the big names got injured
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ScareChan
05/01/19 7:44:57 PM
#187:


But this made me realized I haven't watched like the last 3 weeks of wwe. I watched night after and haven't seen like anything since
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:46:58 PM
#188:


ScareChan posted...
I think the last 30 minutes was against warriors

And right after that 2 of the big names got injured


Nope, Warriors game started 30 minutes after SD
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 7:53:48 PM
#189:


Singh Bros are on 205 Live now

Vic Joseph: The Superstar Shakeup continues!
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/01/19 8:01:14 PM
#190:


Will we still be getting shake ups next week?

I would not bet against it at this point.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 10:18:55 PM
#192:


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/1123770406131859456?s=21
Overall cable viewership among the top 25 stations is down 4%. Raw this week was down 27%. IN RATINGS, 29% in viewers from last year.


https://twitter.com/averagewrestlin/status/1123770875495493635?s=21
Those four percent could have been largely wrestling fans. I'm not saying it's likely, just possible.


Where do these people come from
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NBIceman
05/01/19 10:25:18 PM
#193:


I don't even think I understand the point that guy is trying to make.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 10:34:31 PM
#194:


Like, its not as bad as it looks because if all the overall cord cutters are people who watch WWE, theyll still support the product in other ways?

I THINK
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TheRock1525
05/01/19 10:39:08 PM
#195:


I assume that they'll just replace it all with more Saudi Money, especially since they're bringing Goldberg back.

I wonder if by the year 2025 It will be WW-Saud-E.
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Jakyl25
05/01/19 10:40:53 PM
#196:


Okay this is the funniest take on the decline

https://twitter.com/certifiedjobber/status/1123692422230413314?s=21

Could you imagine turning on the show and all the characters you enjoyed seeing aren't there? Superstar Shakeup seems exciting, but if one week I turn on the Flash and have the cast of Supergirl I might change the channel.

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Jakyl25
05/01/19 10:44:43 PM
#197:


TheRock1525 posted...
I assume that they'll just replace it all with more Saudi Money, especially since they're bringing Goldberg back.

I wonder if by the year 2025 It will be WW-Saud-E.


Someone made the joke that last year they wanted Yokozuna in April, HBK in November, and this year they want Goldberg, so they must be doing a chronological watchthrough of the 90s

And then eventually theyll get to the late 00s and realize things went to shit and wont want WWE back
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scarletspeed7
05/01/19 10:48:41 PM
#198:


Jakyl25 posted...
Okay this is the funniest take on the decline

https://twitter.com/certifiedjobber/status/1123692422230413314?s=21

Could you imagine turning on the show and all the characters you enjoyed seeing aren't there? Superstar Shakeup seems exciting, but if one week I turn on the Flash and have the cast of Supergirl I might change the channel.

Okay, but if I turned on Flash and the cast of Legends of Tomorrow was there, it would be an upgrade for the Flash!
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TheRock1525
05/01/19 11:11:10 PM
#199:


I assume Vince is gonna blame Kofi and Seth for the ratings tanking and we're gonna get Universal Champion Baron Corbin and WWE Champion Roman Reigns.
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ScareChan
05/01/19 11:21:37 PM
#200:


TheRock1525 posted...
I assume Vince is gonna blame Kofi and Seth for the ratings tanking and we're gonna get Universal Champion Baron Corbin and WWE Champion Roman Reigns.


I mean theres an argument to take the belt off them, sure. Everyone wanted a feel good moment with Kofi and they got it and everyone tuned out.

Unless ratings pick up you may not get a Kofi or Yes Movement moment again for a very long time

hell this is probably going to lead to Becky losing the belts as well
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