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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 10:30:57 AM
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There is a high chance that the Pelosi congress starts functions before the shut down ends.

Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

Will the democrats blink, provided that the two possibilities above are of a negative outcome?

Can orange hooman hold the govt hostage until his every whim is catered to?
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monkmith
12/28/18 10:33:07 AM
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pretty sure there are enough republicans in the senate willing to work on a bipartisan bill that can't be veto'd. question is if bitch mcconnell will let it come to the floor.
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DevsBro
12/28/18 10:33:18 AM
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Hopefully everyone just forgets it's been shut down and we all go about our business, just like the War on Iraq.
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Blue_Target
12/28/18 10:34:51 AM
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Webmaster4531
12/28/18 10:35:43 AM
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monkmith posted...
pretty sure there are enough republicans in the senate willing to work on a bipartisan bill that can't be veto'd. question is if bitch mcconnell will let it come to the floor.

They have to replace McConnell as majority leader if he doesn't. Trumpers are stupid but even they won't swallow it's the Democrats fault McConnell wasn't replaced.
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DevsBro
12/28/18 10:36:25 AM
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Blue_Target posted...
When we build that wall!

But for now we'll go on living separate lives.
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tremain07
12/28/18 10:41:08 AM
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Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.
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Ambience
12/28/18 10:43:41 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
even they won't swallow it's the Democrats fault McConnell wasn't replaced.

You underestimate their stupidity
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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 10:55:52 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.


So it could be a perpetual shutdown unless the democrats blink?
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Webmaster4531
12/28/18 10:57:30 AM
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Shiba_Inu posted...
tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.


So it could be a perpetual shutdown unless the democrats blink?

No, the Republicans can replace McConnell as majority leader with someone who will let the bipartisan bill go to vote.
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Ambience
12/28/18 10:59:16 AM
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Shiba_Inu posted...
tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.


So it could be a perpetual shutdown unless the democrats blink?

With enough pressure from his own party, McConnell will crack. The vanity project is not wanted by a vast majority of the country. Even most Republicans aren't on board. Matter of time, really.
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Foppe
12/28/18 10:59:53 AM
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You need a startup.
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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 11:00:13 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.


So it could be a perpetual shutdown unless the democrats blink?

No, the Republicans can replace McConnell as majority leader with someone who will let the bipartisan bill go to vote.


That would be awesome, but I dont think the have the balls or ethics to do so
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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 11:00:35 AM
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Ambience posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.


So it could be a perpetual shutdown unless the democrats blink?

With enough pressure from his own party, McConnell will crack. The vanity project is not wanted by a vast majority of the country. Even most Republicans aren't on board. Matter of time, really.


:) sweet
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uwnim
12/28/18 11:01:25 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Shiba_Inu posted...
Then what? Can the house and the alt-right controlled senate pass a budget CR without the president signing it? Would the alt right senate even entertain that thought if possible?

They would not, Mcconnell has already gone on record saying he won't bring any bill to the floor unless he knows that the president will sign it.

He's really a horrible person. Like if you have enough votes to go past the president and not doing so is damaging the country, then you have an obligation to the people to let something like that go to the floor.
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BLAKUboy
12/28/18 11:03:14 AM
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McConnell cares more about saving the party as a whole than he does about not making Trump look bad. He'll immediately override any veto Trump pushes so the shutdown can end.
The only thing stopping him now is Ryan won't let the House pass anything reasonable, and that will no longer be a problem come January 3rd.
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tremain07
12/28/18 11:04:51 AM
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True but McConnell is as scummy as they come and he won't ever do anything that could turn Trump supporters against him because Republicans need those guys
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Bananana
12/28/18 11:05:08 AM
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A bill without any funding for the wall will pass both the House and Senate, Trump will veto, and there will for sure be enough votes to override his veto.
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powerman1426
12/28/18 11:08:57 AM
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Once the house passes a bill and sends it to the Senate, and all Democrats approve it, that'll put all pressure on Republicans. They won't be able to blame rump
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powerman1426
12/28/18 11:10:21 AM
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tremain07 posted...
True but McConnell is as scummy as they come and he won't ever do anything that could turn Trump supporters against him because Republicans need those guys

They need more than that lol. If that's all they think they need they're gonna be out of a job. Deservedly so I'd add
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Ambience
12/28/18 11:12:44 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
Once the house passes a bill and sends it to the Senate, and all Democrats approve it, that'll put all pressure on Republicans. They won't be able to blame rump

The issue there would be that their approval would just be vocal and McConnell would refuse to even allow a vote. But I believe that under enough pressure from his own party, the Turtle's shell will crack.
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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 11:14:49 AM
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BLAKUboy posted...
McConnell cares more about saving the party as a whole than he does about not making Trump look bad. He'll immediately override any veto Trump pushes so the shutdown can end.
The only thing stopping him now is Ryan won't let the House pass anything reasonable, and that will no longer be a problem come January 3rd.


I hope youre right
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