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Anti-245 12/17/18 10:54:12 PM #1:	Why is the west(generally the U.S. And Western Europe) obsessed with this time period such that it is involved in several games and movies? --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914309781] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>Why is the west(generally the U.S. And Western Europe) obsessed with this time period such that it is involved in several games and movies?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PikachuMaxwell 12/17/18 10:55:36 PM #2:	Fairy Tales and Traditional Fantasy stories --- Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Favorite Characters: https://imgur.com/tcQlEb7 Nintendo Network Name: JohnJohn <cite>PikachuMaxwell posted [p:914309842] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>Fairy Tales and Traditional Fantasy stories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 10:56:46 PM #3:	PikachuMaxwell posted... Fairy Tales and Traditional Fantasy stories Those predate feudal Europe though. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914309901] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>PikachuMaxwell posted...</cite> <quote>Fairy Tales and Traditional Fantasy stories</quote> Those predate feudal Europe though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/17/18 10:57:30 PM #4:	tolkien, mostly --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914309926] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>tolkien, mostly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vodkarade 12/17/18 10:58:24 PM #5:	Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism <cite>Vodkarade posted [p:914309972] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 11:04:43 PM #6:	Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914310282] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote>Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism</quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 12/17/18 11:05:50 PM #7:	Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:914310341] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism</quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times.</quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 11:08:19 PM #8:	A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. Then what's Western Europe's excuse? --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914310467] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism</quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times.</quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason.</quote> Then what's Western Europe's excuse?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 12/17/18 11:09:13 PM #9:	Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. Then what's Western Europe's excuse? They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:914310512] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism </quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. </quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason.</quote> Then what's Western Europe's excuse?</quote> They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 11:18:06 PM #10:	A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. Then what's Western Europe's excuse? They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins. I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914310947] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism </quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. </quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason.</quote> Then what's Western Europe's excuse?</quote> They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins.</quote> I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/17/18 11:22:16 PM #11:	I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:914311144] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 12/17/18 11:24:03 PM #12:	Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. Then what's Western Europe's excuse? They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins. I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that. Hard to justify swords being effective if a story is set in modern times and everyone has a gun? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:914311224] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism </quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. </quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. </quote> Then what's Western Europe's excuse? </quote> They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins.</quote> I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that.</quote> Hard to justify swords being effective if a story is set in modern times and everyone has a gun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 11:34:21 PM #13:	A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Anti-245 posted... Vodkarade posted... Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. Then what's Western Europe's excuse? They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins. I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that. Hard to justify swords being effective if a story is set in modern times and everyone has a gun? They could use pre-feudal Europe. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914311673] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vodkarade posted...</cite> <quote> Because hand to hand combat instead of detached shooting allows for heroism </quote> Then how come slave societies aren't as showcases as feudal societies? They had even more hand to hand than feudal times. </quote> Because the US likes to separate slavery from its glorification of slave holding societies. For some reason. </quote> Then what's Western Europe's excuse? </quote> They just want an excuse to swing swords at goblins.</quote> I don't see why they feudal atmosphere for that.</quote> Hard to justify swords being effective if a story is set in modern times and everyone has a gun?</quote> They could use pre-feudal Europe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/17/18 11:48:45 PM #14:	Dragonblade01 posted... I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains. I don't see how they could be nostalgic given how most people were serfs in feudal Europe. They'd be like me being nostalgic about colonial America when slavery was legal. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914312340] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains.</quote> I don't see how they could be nostalgic given how most people were serfs in feudal Europe. They'd be like me being nostalgic about colonial America when slavery was legal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/18/18 1:44:19 AM #15:	Anti-245 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains. I don't see how they could be nostalgic given how most people were serfs in feudal Europe. They'd be like me being nostalgic about colonial America when slavery was legal. It's not the actual time period itself, it's the romanticized stories that come from it that spread along with the Western empires. The truth of the history doesn't really matter all that much. What matters is that stories from and about that era have bled into the generations that were influenced by them. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:914316579] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine a lot of it has to be the romanticization of the period through all the stories being passed down and new versions emerging year after year after year. Probably little more than a fondness developed over centuries of stories being told in regions, the people from which would take those stories with them wherever they went. They may fall in and out of popularity at various times, but the "nostalgia," so to speak, remains.</quote> I don't see how they could be nostalgic given how most people were serfs in feudal Europe. They'd be like me being nostalgic about colonial America when slavery was legal.</quote> It's not the actual time period itself, it's the romanticized stories that come from it that spread along with the Western empires. The truth of the history doesn't really matter all that much. What matters is that stories from and about that era have bled into the generations that were influenced by them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 12/18/18 1:48:10 AM #16:	Even farmers who toiled in the fields their entire lives at least had a house and didn't have to share it with several other families that weren't related. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:914316700] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote>Even farmers who toiled in the fields their entire lives at least had a house and didn't have to share it with several other families that weren't related.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/18/18 1:52:29 AM #17:	ThyCorndog posted... tolkien, mostly this is an interesting idea, but is Tolkien's Middle Earth actually feudal? I find this interesting enough of an idea that I'm probably going to read up on it regardless - I vaguely remember reading that Tolkien feared the loss of the rural British countryside (the shire) to industrialization (Mordor). that in and of itself is pretty vague in terms of the economic system it represents --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914316824] in Feudalism... [t:77312364]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>tolkien, mostly</quote> this is an interesting idea, but is Tolkien's Middle Earth actually feudal? I find this interesting enough of an idea that I'm probably going to read up on it regardless - I vaguely remember reading that Tolkien feared the loss of the rural British countryside (the shire) to industrialization (Mordor). that in and of itself is pretty vague in terms of the economic system it represents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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