Current Events > So why couldn't Iron Man 3 just have the real Mandarin?

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YoshitoKikuchi 12/17/18 8:59:12 PM #1:	--- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:914303723] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 12/17/18 8:59:45 PM #2:	The same reason TLJ couldn't have been a good movie Had to subvert expectations --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:914303755] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>The same reason TLJ couldn't have been a good movie Had to subvert expectations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/17/18 8:59:52 PM #3:	Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:914303765] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/17/18 9:00:56 PM #4:	OctilIery posted... Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. A Chinese wizard can't exist? <cite>Zikten posted [p:914303821] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> A Chinese wizard can't exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 12/17/18 9:02:57 PM #5:	Because PLOT TWIST --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:914303934] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Because PLOT TWIST</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 12/17/18 9:06:11 PM #6:	littlebro07 posted... Because PLOT TWIST --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:914304101] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Because PLOT TWIST</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 12/17/18 9:06:58 PM #7:	BLAKUboy posted... littlebro07 posted... Because PLOT TWIST SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:914304154] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Because PLOT TWIST</quote></quote> SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 12/17/18 9:57:25 PM #8:	<_< --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:914306871] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 12/17/18 9:59:29 PM #9:	Because Guy Pierce shooting fire out of his mouth is clearly more intimidating. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:914306981] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Because Guy Pierce shooting fire out of his mouth is clearly more intimidating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 12/17/18 9:59:52 PM #10:	you have to subvert what to expect from a good movie <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:914306996] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>you have to subvert what to expect from a good movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 12/17/18 10:00:26 PM #11:	Because it wouldn't get a release in China then. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:914307028] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Because it wouldn't get a release in China then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 12/17/18 10:10:43 PM #12:	Because Asian actors in Hollywood movies = box office death <cite>bknight posted [p:914307530] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Because Asian actors in Hollywood movies = box office death</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link43130 12/17/18 10:12:13 PM #13:	cuz they basically did a modern day mandarin and it made people so mad lol --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 <cite>Link43130 posted [p:914307622] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>cuz they basically did a modern day mandarin and it made people so mad lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/17/18 10:15:11 PM #14:	even if it was still a white man but they had him act like the actual Mandarin it would have been better. I probably still would have complained about the race swap. but it would have been less bad than what they did <cite>Zikten posted [p:914307793] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>even if it was still a white man but they had him act like the actual Mandarin it would have been better. I probably still would have complained about the race swap. but it would have been less bad than what they did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 12/17/18 10:18:15 PM #15:	OctilIery posted... Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. Yes, because the MCU is completely incapable of changing things to be more diverse, progressive, and respectable. I'm sure making Mandarin less of a characture and an actual villain would be the most difficult thing to do in the MCU. Couldn't be that the director is an idiot. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:914307963] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> Yes, because the MCU is completely incapable of changing things to be more diverse, progressive, and respectable. I'm sure making Mandarin less of a characture and an actual villain would be the most difficult thing to do in the MCU. Couldn't be that the director is an idiot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/17/18 10:20:33 PM #16:	also they still use the Mandarin sometimes in the comics, and they did update him. he's not a caricature anymore. hasn't been in decades <cite>Zikten posted [p:914308087] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>also they still use the Mandarin sometimes in the comics, and they did update him. he's not a caricature anymore. hasn't been in decades</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 12/17/18 10:26:09 PM #17:	ITT: people pointing out the race, when that wasn't even the issue with the character in the movie. The issue was ~~he turned out to be a clueless, lazy actor, when there was no Mandarin.~~ That's like Superman getting ahold of Lex Luthor, only to find out he was a hired model, and some random LexCorp executive was the real head of the company. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:914308332] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>ITT: people pointing out the race, when that wasn't even the issue with the character in the movie. The issue was he turned out to be a clueless, lazy actor, when there was no Mandarin. That's like Superman getting ahold of Lex Luthor, only to find out he was a hired model, and some random LexCorp executive was the real head of the company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 12/17/18 10:31:22 PM #18:	Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:914308586] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 12/17/18 10:35:12 PM #19:	ultimate reaver posted... Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny You don't like Evil Iron Man or Evil Iron Man or even Evil Iron Man? --- https://imgur.com/QfpP05s https://imgur.com/vdnZ1o6 https://imgur.com/zTgf822 <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:914308766] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny</quote> You don't like Evil Iron Man or Evil Iron Man or even Evil Iron Man?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 12/17/18 10:36:54 PM #20:	Hayame Zero posted... ITT: people pointing out the race, when that wasn't even the issue with the character in the movie. The issue was ~~he turned out to be a clueless, lazy actor, when there was no Mandarin.~~ That's like Superman getting ahold of Lex Luthor, only to find out he was a hired model, and some random LexCorp executive was the real head of the company. It's not so much other people missing the point, it's that you completely missed what the topic was asking. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:914308843] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hayame Zero posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: people pointing out the race, when that wasn't even the issue with the character in the movie. The issue was he turned out to be a clueless, lazy actor, when there was no Mandarin. That's like Superman getting ahold of Lex Luthor, only to find out he was a hired model, and some random LexCorp executive was the real head of the company.</quote> It's not so much other people missing the point, it's that you completely missed what the topic was asking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/17/18 10:39:48 PM #21:	Mist_Turnips posted... OctilIery posted... Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. Yes, because the MCU is completely incapable of changing things to be more diverse, progressive, and respectable. I'm sure making Mandarin less of a characture and an actual villain would be the most difficult thing to do in the MCU. Couldn't be that the director is an idiot. The director has pretty conclusively proven he's a damn good director, tbqh. The Mandarin is just not a great villain, and Iron Man 3 was a great movie as is. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:914308988] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mist_Turnips posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> Yes, because the MCU is completely incapable of changing things to be more diverse, progressive, and respectable. I'm sure making Mandarin less of a characture and an actual villain would be the most difficult thing to do in the MCU. Couldn't be that the director is an idiot.</quote> The director has pretty conclusively proven he's a damn good director, tbqh. The Mandarin is just not a great villain, and Iron Man 3 was a great movie as is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/17/18 10:54:59 PM #22:	This is supposed to make it up for the Mandarin fans. They're probably not going to follow up on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceyJxMuYFE" data-time=" --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914309814] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>This is supposed to make it up for the Mandarin fans. They're probably not going to follow up on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceyJxMuYFE" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 12/17/18 11:14:23 PM #23:	Webmaster4531 posted... This is supposed to make it up for the Mandarin fans. They're probably not going to follow up on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceyJxMuYFE" data-time=" This was actually pretty fun to watch --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:914310763] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>This is supposed to make it up for the Mandarin fans. They're probably not going to follow up on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceyJxMuYFE" data-time="</quote> This was actually pretty fun to watch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/17/18 11:18:59 PM #24:	There are so many stupid, stupid decisions in live action superhero movies. Galactus is a cloud. Lex Luthor is young and has hair. Rhino is a guy in a robot suit. Deadpool has no mouth. Mr. Freeze makes ice puns. Poison Ivy dresses like a drag queen. Feel free to add to the list. God knows I didn't get 'em all. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914310993] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>There are so many stupid, stupid decisions in live action superhero movies. Galactus is a cloud. Lex Luthor is young and has hair. Rhino is a guy in a robot suit. Deadpool has no mouth. Mr. Freeze makes ice puns. Poison Ivy dresses like a drag queen. Feel free to add to the list. God knows I didn't get 'em all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 12/17/18 11:43:46 PM #25:	Skye Reynolds posted... Rhino is a guy in a robot suit. I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:914312103] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Rhino is a guy in a robot suit.</quote> I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/17/18 11:52:56 PM #26:	pegusus123456 posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Rhino is a guy in a robot suit. I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines. Why is Rhino anymore ridiculous than Hulk? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914312573] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Rhino is a guy in a robot suit.</quote> I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines.</quote> Why is Rhino anymore ridiculous than Hulk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 12/17/18 11:55:28 PM #27:	Skye Reynolds posted... pegusus123456 posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Rhino is a guy in a robot suit. I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines. Why is Rhino anymore ridiculous than Hulk? Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:914312683] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Rhino is a guy in a robot suit.</quote> I think that Rhino being a guy in a robot suit is pretty much mandatory if you don't want him to be utterly ridiculous in live action. Probably not exactly what ASM gave us, but something along those lines.</quote> Why is Rhino anymore ridiculous than Hulk?</quote> Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/17/18 11:56:54 PM #28:	pegusus123456 posted... Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit. What about the billionaire ninja in the goofy bat suit? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914312729] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit.</quote> What about the billionaire ninja in the goofy bat suit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 12/18/18 12:04:40 AM #30:	Skye Reynolds posted... pegusus123456 posted... Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit. What about the billionaire ninja in the goofy bat suit? Batman's basically just in a black suit with some pointy ears and a cape and it still took them like six movies to make it look a bit normal. Rhino is in a big grey bodysuit with hooves and a horn who literally charges into people headfirst. He is goofy as fuck. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:914313084] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Hulk is not in a big goofy rhino suit.</quote> What about the billionaire ninja in the goofy bat suit?</quote> Batman's basically just in a black suit with some pointy ears and a cape and it still took them like six movies to make it look a bit normal. Rhino is in a big grey bodysuit with hooves and a horn who literally charges into people headfirst. He is goofy as fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/18/18 12:07:55 AM #31:	Yeah I can't imagine a traditional Rhino design working very well in live action unless it was in Deadpool to make fun of. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:914313230] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I can't imagine a traditional Rhino design working very well in live action unless it was in Deadpool to make fun of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/18/18 12:12:52 AM #32:	What's so bad about a big guy with a horn? If they won't allow it to be a costume, just make him a mutation. There's nothing wrong with the rhino as a concept. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914313432] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>What's so bad about a big guy with a horn? If they won't allow it to be a costume, just make him a mutation. There's nothing wrong with the rhino as a concept. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 12/18/18 12:20:07 AM #33:	Skye Reynolds posted... What's so bad about a big guy with a horn? If they won't allow it to be a costume, just make him a mutation. There's nothing wrong with the rhino as a concept. Okay, now imagine that exact same thing in bright daylight and realize it will look dumb as hell. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:914313741] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>What's so bad about a big guy with a horn? If they won't allow it to be a costume, just make him a mutation. There's nothing wrong with the rhino as a concept. </quote> Okay, now imagine that exact same thing in bright daylight and realize it will look dumb as hell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A Novel Idea 12/18/18 5:58:42 AM #34:	ultimate reaver posted... Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny --- "God I really want you to keep posting." "People don't matter to you. Human relationships don't matter to you."~StarryKnights <cite>A Novel Idea posted [p:914321947] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Iron Man has far and apart the worst marvel rogue gallery out of any of the major avengers, so seeing people pine for the fucking mandarin of all things is pretty funny</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/18/18 10:46:29 AM #35:	pegusus123456 posted... Okay, now imagine that exact same thing in bright daylight and realize it will look dumb as hell. Eh, it doesn't look that bad to me. Among characters like Groot, Rocket, Ant-Man, Squirrel Girl, Yondu, Mantis, Ultron, Vision, etc., Rhino would be in good company. The way I see it, he could battle Spider-Man in a fight lasting about a minute and a half and played serious rather than for comedy. Then, we could relent a little and allow the fight to end in a joke where Rhino gets his horn stuck in a heavy object or goes tumbling off the side of a bridge. And if the actor who plays Rhino does a good job, we could bring him back in a subsequent movie to trade punches with a big guy like Hulk or Drax. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914330240] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, now imagine that exact same thing in bright daylight and realize it will look dumb as hell.</quote> Eh, it doesn't look that bad to me. Among characters like Groot, Rocket, Ant-Man, Squirrel Girl, Yondu, Mantis, Ultron, Vision, etc., Rhino would be in good company. The way I see it, he could battle Spider-Man in a fight lasting about a minute and a half and played serious rather than for comedy. Then, we could relent a little and allow the fight to end in a joke where Rhino gets his horn stuck in a heavy object or goes tumbling off the side of a bridge. And if the actor who plays Rhino does a good job, we could bring him back in a subsequent movie to trade punches with a big guy like Hulk or Drax.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 12/18/18 11:24:43 AM #37:	OctilIery posted... Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. No more racist than Black Panther or Man Ape. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:914332018] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> No more racist than Black Panther or Man Ape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/18/18 1:39:41 PM #38:	Mandarin is a pretty racist name. That's the part of the character that needs to change. If you had a Japanese villain named the Shogunate, you could change him from a masked shogun to a man in a business suit. You could make him blue skinned. It wouldn't matter. As long as he had that name, he'd feel like he was anti-Japanese in his creation. That's the problem Mandarin faces. Even a white guy named Mandarin would be a bad idea. So it's odd to me that the film threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth. If they could change the names of Miss Marvel and Invisible Girl, why not change the blatantly racist title? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:914338830] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Mandarin is a pretty racist name. That's the part of the character that needs to change. If you had a Japanese villain named the Shogunate, you could change him from a masked shogun to a man in a business suit. You could make him blue skinned. It wouldn't matter. As long as he had that name, he'd feel like he was anti-Japanese in his creation. That's the problem Mandarin faces. Even a white guy named Mandarin would be a bad idea. So it's odd to me that the film threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth. If they could change the names of Miss Marvel and Invisible Girl, why not change the blatantly racist title?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/18/18 3:31:44 PM #39:	Skye Reynolds posted... Eh, it doesn't look that bad to me. Everything about Guyver was bad. Deadpool_18 posted... OctilIery posted... Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck. No more racist than Black Panther or Man Ape. Rofl <cite>OctilIery posted [p:914344769] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Eh, it doesn't look that bad to me.</quote> Everything about Guyver was bad. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Because The Mandarin is racist as fuck.</quote> No more racist than Black Panther or Man Ape.</quote> Rofl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JONICS 12/18/18 3:32:18 PM #40:	Im still pissed off at that goddamn twist --- Most User Ever <cite>JONICS posted [p:914344797] in So why cou... [t:77312060]...</cite> <quote>Im still pissed off at that goddamn twist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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